Lvling - Phoenix Freeshard

Please make it better for those who solo. Its not because I want to group its because no one will group my ranger or my hero. I have been spamming for hours to find a group and nothing. I do love that you guys brought a lot of old stuff to the game but I do not miss grinding leveling that for sure. At this point I don't think my ranger will ever hit 50.

Wed 30 Jan 2019 9:13 PM by PingGuy

They just put out an update this week to help with that. Phoenix Eggs are 50% more exp now.

Also, type "/task realm" and look at the bonuses on mob types. Go kill the ones with high bonuses, even blues and greens work.

Between those options and the XP turn-in items, it's moving pretty well. Also the regular kill tasks that you can see with "/task personal"

EDIT: To give you an idea, I was getting 1.6 million exp from blue mobs that normally give about 600k exp, just because they had a ~500% bonus on them. Huge difference.

Wed 30 Jan 2019 10:13 PM by Unda

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Wed 30 Jan 2019 10:24 PM by Maca

Hey im not saying that I want to solo but I have to because you cannot ever get into a group being a ranger the class I want to play. But not being able to because you not a bomber or healer its sucks. And if you can solo lvl faster then a group can please show me in game asap.

Wed 30 Jan 2019 10:46 PM by Afuldan

Collection tasks combined with kill tasks and realm xp bonus means you should level at a fairly brisk pace if you chase the items down. Half a bubble at 41 with level 41 minimum turn in items is nothing to sneeze at.

Just make sure you are turning in items at the lowest level for maximum return on time.

Wed 30 Jan 2019 10:49 PM by Unda

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Wed 30 Jan 2019 10:55 PM by Maca

Either way it xp sucks unless you play in a group or play a bomb class. And im playing a ranger not a hunter.

Wed 30 Jan 2019 11:33 PM by Unda

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Thu 31 Jan 2019 12:04 AM by waffel

Leveling speed is great, and the new changes help those that actually think and make an effort.

Personally I think it’s perfect where it is at and helps weed out the mega lazy. If you can’t handle the leveling speed on Phoenix then you shouldn’t be playing DAOC at all.

Thu 31 Jan 2019 12:09 AM by relvinian

Maca wrote: ↑
Wed 30 Jan 2019 9:05 PM
Please make it better for those who solo. Its not because I want to group its because no one will group my ranger or my hero. I have been spamming for hours to find a group and nothing. I do love that you guys brought a lot of old stuff to the game but I do not miss grinding leveling that for sure. At this point I don't think my ranger will ever hit 50.

If the first hibs and mids made it to 50 in 13 hours then there is zero reason why it should take weeks to solo to 50.

Thu 31 Jan 2019 12:14 AM by Takii

Make a group.

If you're playing one of the less desired classes, the answer isn't to solo, it's to take the initiative to create a group. I've had zero issues getting groups with my hero because I create it myself. Every group I've leveled in had at least two melees and some had 4+. As long as you have at least one pbae in the group, you'll be just fine.

Thu 31 Jan 2019 12:23 AM by Turtle006

During beta I had not one, but 2 different groups with 3 reavers in it. Sub optimal to be sure, but it was surprisingly effective. I agree with the "create a group" crowd. It will take some effort and some failures for sure, but it will happen and you will probably be surprised how effective it is.

Having said that, solo exp is still pretty quick if you do the kill tasks and exp item collection.

Thu 31 Jan 2019 9:47 AM by Chaskha

Also, after level 40, you can easily go RvR and it will xp your toon to 50 - a bit of PvE to get new yellow stuff when needed.
I did that during the beta. Find a couple other stealthers and go the three of you do the tasks. I had fun.

Thu 31 Jan 2019 11:46 AM by Der_Eisbaer

Quite frankly, even before the latest change with bonus for eggs and bonus for certain mob types I found solo playing endurable.

Boring, yes, but on Phoenix there is a range of things you can do speed up things a lot, and I used all of them for solo my Hero from about 35 to 50:

XP items - always the highest possible item for your level (!); farm them, buy them, or kindly ask one of the dedicated farmers of your guild to spend half an hour with you to farm the 10 pcs. that you need for your level

Phoenix eggs - come automatically and provide information, how many more you need until next level up

XP taks - this! Now XP tasks really begin to shine after around level 40; carefully utilize these to maximize XP / hour; to give you an example: On level 47 I was at the bottom of CM in Hib; there I could kill 5 mob types, plus they all were kills in a dungeon

That being said, plus now taking into consideration the latest changes: I find that Phoenix has gone a very long way in making DAoC solo grind endurable.

I even believe that any further measures might be harmful because things may become too easy.

Thu 31 Jan 2019 4:29 PM by darthenron

I'm also playing a solo tank, and it is kind of hard to level solo. (I don't seem to be landing as many hits on yellows).

I think it would be neat if they had some NPC merchants selling some low-level PvE only potions/firepits to help with solo-ers.

Fri 1 Feb 2019 4:05 AM by Dimir

I leveled my Infiltrator to 50 solo with about 48 hours played. That was before the egg xp change or the rarer mob bonus xp. Would have been very nice to have those but it didn't feel slow at all. XP item turn ins were huge and then I just switched around to get lots of rank 1-2 tasks done.

Fri 1 Feb 2019 8:56 AM by Halma

darthenron wrote: ↑
Thu 31 Jan 2019 4:29 PM
I'm also playing a solo tank, and it is kind of hard to level solo. (I don't seem to be landing as many hits on yellows).

I think it would be neat if they had some NPC merchants selling some low-level PvE only potions/firepits to help with solo-ers.

Get some tinderboxes. The damage add from these is absolutely huge (only for melee and archer). If you don't land enough hits on yellows, how's your spec currently?

I can't play that much as well but I'm in the mid 40s now and the last couple of levels took less than 1 hour each.
10 XP items are usually 5-6 bubbles and every "kill 15 of xy" tasks is about 0,5-0,7(? don't know exactly). If your realm has Darkness Falls you can do 3 of these quests by killing one type of mob (dungeon, rvr zone & mob type) and you get tinderboxes. If you kill mobs in the frontier you also progress in 2 tasks at once (rvr zone & mob type) and you get tinderboxes. If you have trouble going to a rvr zone go in a dungeon (dungeon & mobtype).
The personal tasks are not that powerful in the lower levels (you seem to always get around 0,5-0,7 bubbs for each one) but in the higher levels you need to do them to have a good progress. In the lower levels you can focus on doing the XP items correctly. Always hand them in on the lowest possible level, that should always give you a full level up to a certain point.

Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:08 PM by chryso

Takii wrote: ↑
Thu 31 Jan 2019 12:14 AM
Make a group.

As long as you have at least one pbae in the group, you'll be just fine.

Back in the old days we discovered it was possible to level without any pbae.

Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:12 PM by Bradekes

I don't think the task dungeon/instances were ever a bad thing. I'm sure these could be implemented here. I always enjoyed those on my solo toons. Kinda keeps the people solo away from groups camping areas too which can be annoying for the solo not having camp exp and such.

Fri 1 Feb 2019 3:58 PM by Takii

chryso wrote: ↑
Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:08 PM
Takii wrote: ↑
Thu 31 Jan 2019 12:14 AM
Make a group.

As long as you have at least one pbae in the group, you'll be just fine.

Back in the old days we discovered it was possible to level without any pbae.

Of course it's possible but don't pretend that it's even remotely as fast as having at least one PBAE in the group.

Fri 1 Feb 2019 5:12 PM by chryso

Takii wrote: ↑
Fri 1 Feb 2019 3:58 PM
chryso wrote: ↑
Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:08 PM
Takii wrote: ↑
Thu 31 Jan 2019 12:14 AM
Make a group.

As long as you have at least one pbae in the group, you'll be just fine.

Back in the old days we discovered it was possible to level without any pbae.

Of course it's possible but don't pretend that it's even remotely as fast as having at least one PBAE in the group.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 12:27 AM by Maca

relvinian wrote: ↑
Thu 31 Jan 2019 12:09 AM
Maca wrote: ↑
Wed 30 Jan 2019 9:05 PM
Please make it better for those who solo. Its not because I want to group its because no one will group my ranger or my hero. I have been spamming for hours to find a group and nothing. I do love that you guys brought a lot of old stuff to the game but I do not miss grinding leveling that for sure. At this point I don't think my ranger will ever hit 50.

If the first hibs and mids made it to 50 in 13 hours then there is zero reason why it should take weeks to solo to 50.

So your saying a group of people that more and likely know each other got to 50 in 13 hrs wow that's awesome. But cant compare group xp to someone solo that's just stupid.

Tue 5 Feb 2019 12:36 AM by relvinian

I am saying that if the whole point is fair and balanced and so forth that since we know you can get to 50 in 13 hours as reported by the devs why not allow those people who don't have that ability to get there a little faster. And they did, they increased eggs.