Shadowgnash - Phoenix Freeshard

As this mob was creating every day multiple appeals about players stealing this mob, who was there first and many more, we decided to make the following change:

Shadowgnash is now an Encounter for at least one full group and will drop feathers. He is Level 70 and has a lot of special abilities. He has an increased respawn timer same like the other mobs in Cursed Forest which are dropping feathers. The Pooka Lord's Mantle is now available for 10k feathers from Saban in TNN. You need to kill Shadowgnash once to get the accountwide credit.

I really hope you will now start to play together as a realm and all this griefplay will stop.

Mon 28 Jan 2019 1:31 AM by carlwinslow

Dear Uthred, as a ranger on Phoenix I have struggled to get 50, I solo'd the entire way. The Shadowgnash cloak is crucial to my build, I was prepared to kill him by myself before the changes were made. This lack of being able to get groups extends into raids etc. I don't understand why Shadowgnash has to be such a big deal just for a charge item. 10k feathers for pooka cloak when the grand summoner cloak is only 5k more? I feel like this encounter shouldn't be such a big deal, it just punishes characters that can't get groups in the first place. If nobody has noticed Hibernia players on phoenix are extremely cliquish and selfish from my personal experience. I didn't mind the grind to 50 because I expected to have to solo it, but having to jump through hoops and to have nobody want to help you for some item that I am desperate for but really shouldn't be that hard to get? Anyways just ranting because if I had known it was gonna become a big deal I would have tried to farm him a week ago when I could have killed him by myself. I like the server but this one thing is very frustrating.

Here are some suggestions.
1. Nerf animist groups so that people actually start making normal groups.
2. Nerf realm tasks because nobody cares about protecting their realm from gankers when everyone is too tempted for task rps in one zone.
3. Nerf the Shadowgnash into a much easier encounter that can be done with 3-4 people and make it a OTD for everyone so that animists cant jus sit around farming it over and over since people fighting over it was the reason you guys changed it in the first place. Thank you for reading.

Mon 28 Jan 2019 11:38 AM by phixion

carlwinslow wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Jan 2019 1:31 AM
Dear Uthred, as a ranger on Phoenix I have struggled to get 50, I solo'd the entire way. The Shadowgnash cloak is crucial to my build, I was prepared to kill him by myself before the changes were made. This lack of being able to get groups extends into raids etc. I don't understand why Shadowgnash has to be such a big deal just for a charge item. 10k feathers for pooka cloak when the grand summoner cloak is only 5k more? I feel like this encounter shouldn't be such a big deal, it just punishes characters that can't get groups in the first place. If nobody has noticed Hibernia players on phoenix are extremely cliquish and selfish from my personal experience. I didn't mind the grind to 50 because I expected to have to solo it, but having to jump through hoops and to have nobody want to help you for some item that I am desperate for but really shouldn't be that hard to get? Anyways just ranting because if I had known it was gonna become a big deal I would have tried to farm him a week ago when I could have killed him by myself. I like the server but this one thing is very frustrating.

Here are some suggestions.
1. Nerf animist groups so that people actually start making normal groups.
2. Nerf realm tasks because nobody cares about protecting their realm from gankers when everyone is too tempted for task rps in one zone.
3. Nerf the Shadowgnash into a much easier encounter that can be done with 3-4 people and make it a OTD for everyone so that animists cant jus sit around farming it over and over since people fighting over it was the reason you guys changed it in the first place. Thank you for reading.

Then do as 99% of the other stealthers in the game have had to do... create a "PvE character". You will find all the groups you need with ease, get credit, have an easier time farming feathers in general.

Mon 28 Jan 2019 12:04 PM by carlwinslow

Literally all I want is the dex/qui charge cloak without it being a major hassle which it is now. I could have done this up until the last few days when they made him way more difficult because of peoples selfish behaviors. This change doesn't help fix the selfish behavior, it is only encouraging it more in another way. Trying to force people into playing nice isn't the way to go all the time, especially when we are in a caste system in game where you are either one of the "useful" classes or you are garbage. If I want to play a ranger I should be able to do anything that anyone else can. Sorry I don't want to spend the rest of my life PVEing so I can get a POOKA cloak instead of a galla chest or soemthing that I should be getting with feathers. Ya know, I have had enough forced garbage PVE for a lifetime thanks to uthturd. FOrcing PVE on people is very uthturd-like and I think the wonderful devs here they should consider this. btw aside from my grievances I like the server gj devs

Mon 28 Jan 2019 9:20 PM by Axo

Are you really complaining that you have to group up with people for a special encounter?
Sorry but that’s how this game is meant to play. Even pve.
This game is designed that people group up and work together to get to certain content. And I’m pretty sure since I play Hibernia myself if you look for a bit you’ll find a group who are willing to take a ranger. If not you can always ask your guild or friends to help you.
If you don’t know anyone or no ones willing to help you. You may wanna think about if you play this game right.
It’s an MMORPG. Talk to people

Tue 29 Jan 2019 1:32 PM by Sepplord

Axo wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Jan 2019 9:20 PM
Are you really complaining that you have to group up with people for a special encounter?
Sorry but that’s how this game is meant to play. Even pve.
This game is designed that people group up and work together to get to certain content. And I’m pretty sure since I play Hibernia myself if you look for a bit you’ll find a group who are willing to take a ranger. If not you can always ask your guild or friends to help you.
If you don’t know anyone or no ones willing to help you. You may wanna think about if you play this game right.
It’s an MMORPG. Talk to people

Everything that follows is just hearsay:

i think the problem here is that the mob in question was soloable, it just had a high-interest drop.

Because of that drop (a charge-buff item) the mob got camped hard, and lots of drama happened because of people stealing kills/etc...
So to "solve" this they changed the encounter and made it an endgame pve encounter. Aka, you need to kill it once and get the encounter accountwide unlocked. Then you can buy the item for feathers from a merchant.

You need a shitload of feathers now, compared to just being lucky while killing an orange mob.

Tue 29 Jan 2019 2:25 PM by Takii

10k feathers is literally 1 Galla raid, which takes 1.5h if you get a good one (aka the NA ones since the peak weekend ones simply have too many people). There was one last night. You don't even have to be in a good group since the feathers are a flat rate drop for everyone in the raid (27 per trash, ~400 per boss) as long as your group has hit the mob at least once.

The argument that this change "forces PvE" on you works both ways.

When it was a red mob, you could solo it if you managed to find it uncontested. But from the perspective of literally everyone else that has a guild that can help them (which is a lot more people than people who play strictly solo), it being a soloable red mob with a low drop rate made it nearly impossible to farm. I need the Pooka Lord Mantle on my main for the charge on it and this change makes it a million times easier to get because now all I need is to get a group together and go kill it then buy it with feathers. The time investment is much smaller there than it used to be.

As suggested, you can do this too if you're a soloer. Just get a group (or multiple even) together at prime time. I don't think you'll have that much trouble finding people to kill it with since D/Q charge items are in very high demand here due to a lot of druids speccing 40 Reg for the Cure NS (which means they have Blue D/Q).