Shaman Question - Phoenix Freeshard

Hi Folks,

due to my rl commitment with my kids I wanted to make the best out of my available time in the evenings. Since I cannot heavily rely on getting a group for short time or with long afk breaks, I thought about a Shaman. My goal is to PvE and craft.
From your experience, what do I need, what are the do's/don'ts any spec suggestions for low levels, level spots etc.?
Or anything else helpful which is on your mind as experienced players for a newbie?

thank you so much for your contribution and help

Durgrim

Tue 22 Jan 2019 3:00 PM by chryso

Shaman is a decent solo class if you like to kite. Personally I would rather slug it out. If it was me under those parameters I would make a thane. They are a decent melee class that can easily pull mobs and have self buffs. If you were an alb I would suggest friar and if hib a warden or a champion for the same reasons.

Tue 22 Jan 2019 3:56 PM by Durgrim

Chryso, thank you for your reply.
I really don't like the melee classes and Midgard is my realm of choice

Tue 22 Jan 2019 10:36 PM by Afuldan

You can farm packs of greens/blues with aoe dot/aoe disease at 23 cave for blue aoe dot and 27 for baseline aoe disease.
It’s very mana efficient with cast, kite, cast. Not the most glorious battle visual (RUN BRAVELY AWAY) but it works.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 9:21 AM by Sepplord

Shaman is a very viable soloer, since you can mass-pull weak mobs and kite them to death with DOTs

you might also want to consider the BoneDancer. He is afaik the best soloer and can chain yellow/orange mobs with decent speed. It is a caster with multiple pets and different styles of playing. Endgame RvR standard spec would be suppression where you have pets that heal you, and an instant-lifetap on a 4sec cooldown.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 10:09 AM by Durgrim

Thank you guys for replying!
So technically, how does the kiting work? Are the mobs not faster than me? Sprinting em off will maybe result in a catastrophy

1. I identify a group of mobs standing close together.
2. Cast the DoT
3. Cast the Disease
4. Sprint until my Endu Is burned and hope they are dead.

?

Durg

Wed 23 Jan 2019 12:06 PM by Sepplord

if you don't sprint mobs will not catch up to you. You only need to sprint if mobs are already attacking you, to get some ground while kiting.

Not sure about your other questions, as i have never done it before.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 12:27 PM by Zeus

But keep in mind, that the PvE mechanics of this server favour killing at least yellow mobs as a solo player for task exp. Shamy can easliy masskill blues and greens but the lack of free task exp will seriously hurt you in higher levels.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 12:34 PM by Durgrim

Zeus wrote: But keep in mind, that the PvE mechanics of this server favour killing at least yellow mobs as a solo player for task exp. Shamy can easliy masskill blues and greens but the lack of free task exp will seriously hurt you in higher levels.

Could you explain this a bit detailed to me? I do know that I can turn in quest items for xp, either eggs or special items....

Wed 23 Jan 2019 12:40 PM by Sepplord

There are task that passively happen/complete if you kill the right mobs (and they are high enough)

There are task for mob types humanoids/insects/animals/undead/etc...
But also for "creatures in RvR zones" "creatures in dungeons" etc...

So killing an enemy in DF or Dodens can trigger multiple tasks for one kill. (aka an humanoid there will trigger humanoid/dungeon/frontierzone)

Task start out low, aka kill 15mobs from type X, and increase each time you complete a task. Aka after killing 15, you start at 0 and have to kill 31, then 55, etc...

Each time a Task is completed you get a huge chunk of XP. In early levels it doesn't have a big impact, but 40 or 45+ you will get 0,7-1bubbs which greatly increases XP gained.

For kills to count for task you have to kill:

Solo: blues until lvl19, then yellows

Duo/trio: i think this was also a category, but i am not sure

Group up to 5members: Oranges all the way

Group above 5members: Oras till lvl19, then reds

Wed 23 Jan 2019 12:53 PM by Zeus

You should always use the maximum of your 10 exp items per level but additionally to that, killing the right yellow mobs for tasks will allways be faster exp than mass murdering blues and greens.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 1:24 PM by Durgrim

okies, now this makes perfect sense to me

thank you - so that being said, for leveling reasons, I should stay cave specced?

Wed 23 Jan 2019 1:55 PM by Zeus

For solo pve focus on cave, but not ideal for grouping. On the other hand ... you can use your free respecs any time at your trainer if you have a group at hand and need to respec to aug if you dont mind rebuilding your bars.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 3:42 PM by Calconious

Durgrim wrote: ↑
Wed 23 Jan 2019 10:09 AM
Thank you guys for replying!
So technically, how does the kiting work? Are the mobs not faster than me? Sprinting em off will maybe result in a catastrophy
1. I identify a group of mobs standing close together.
2. Cast the DoT
3. Cast the Disease
4. Sprint until my Endu Is burned and hope they are dead.

?

Durg

Pretty much for aoe dot killing. You may be required to /face and cast another aoe dot or 2 on the group to make sure they all die. 1 dot and run may not be enough dmg to kill if they are higher than green ( and they may turn around if you run away for too long with out attacking ). It's a small game you have to play to keep there attention on attacking you, but also stay far enough away to not get hit by all of them.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 4:07 PM by Zeus

Calconious wrote: ↑
Wed 23 Jan 2019 3:42 PM
Pretty much for aoe dot killing. You may be required to /face and cast another aoe dot or 2 on the group to make sure they all die. 1 dot and run may not be enough dmg to kill if they are higher than green ( and they may turn around if you run away for too long with out attacking ). It's a small game you have to play to keep there attention on attacking you, but also stay far enough away to not get hit by all of them.

This is old DAOC tactics. Adjust to this server and dont kill anything lower than yellow. Try to get as many daily tasks as possible by switching mob types after 15 or 31 kills and combine this with getting exp items or double or tripple tasks by leveling in dungeons/frontzones or frontzone-dungeons. Also join the general RvR-tasks by letting yourself get killed once in emain or whereever the task zone is and let the free exp and RPs rain upon you when the task is complete. My thane was RR 2LX when hitting 40 just by these tasks and the RAs you can buy can help a lot in PvE.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 6:06 PM by Calconious

Zeus wrote: ↑
Wed 23 Jan 2019 4:07 PM
Calconious wrote: ↑
Wed 23 Jan 2019 3:42 PM
Pretty much for aoe dot killing. You may be required to /face and cast another aoe dot or 2 on the group to make sure they all die. 1 dot and run may not be enough dmg to kill if they are higher than green ( and they may turn around if you run away for too long with out attacking ). It's a small game you have to play to keep there attention on attacking you, but also stay far enough away to not get hit by all of them.

This is old DAOC tactics. Adjust to this server and dont kill anything lower than yellow. Try to get as many daily tasks as possible by switching mob types after 15 or 31 kills and combine this with getting exp items or double or tripple tasks by leveling in dungeons/frontzones or frontzone-dungeons. Also join the general RvR-tasks by letting yourself get killed once in emain or whereever the task zone is and let the free exp and RPs rain upon you when the task is complete. My thane was RR 2LX when hitting 40 just by these tasks and the RAs you can buy can help a lot in PvE.

Ya, never said it was the fastest playstyle... just confirming to him that's how it's done.

Good info though!

Thu 24 Jan 2019 9:57 AM by Durgrim

Thank you all for contributing to this post.

Thu 24 Jan 2019 11:37 AM by Sotor

Hi.

If u wanna do full solo farming/xping u can do following spec :

22 aug for endu3 + some specbuffs + lw1 + tl1 for endless sprint to be able to kite mobs as long as you want
all remaining points in cave, with level 39 u can easily chain kite yellow-orange mobs in the amount of 3-21+

In final 50 spec u can easily chainkite 3-21+ orange-red mobs in moderna or DF or wherever u have enough room to kite them ( i did kite TG on other server where mobs couldnt nuke or outrun players ;D ).

Normally u can doubledot + aoedisease with reached dexcap before monster hit u.
With some crit-RAs + castspeedstuff u can even do extremer stuff or more relaxing.

Its really fun and the amount of time/reward ratio is really good !

Greets Sotor

Thu 24 Jan 2019 1:10 PM by Durgrim

Thanks! Very helpful hints!

Wed 6 Feb 2019 12:05 PM by Durgrim

Digging out my old post.

So just in the light of PVE farming (redcaps etc), what procs would you pack on your armor?
Ablative, Health Buffer (perma for 10min?), Power Drain?

Offtopic: Whilst ROG farming....does the utility chance increase with the level of a mob?
For instance a 56ish has higher chance to drop 70 util than 51ish mob?

Also Offtopic:
Drakulv in Malm, even if you have to collect longer for a nice bunch of, have own regular drops beside ROG. That being said it is to be considered farming those when it comes to Plat/hour generation.

What do you think?
Anyone?

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