Increase item charge duration to 20min.

Super annoying to charge all the time, not a issue really but as caster you pop acuity then spec af then conservator bracer during fight + staff dd and repeat over and over again.

I don't mind if the recharge cost would even go 3x just please increase the duration for sanity sake.

Thank you!
Raunz

Wed 23 Jan 2019 2:22 PM by chryso

How about if we increase it to 20 mins but you can only have one up at a time?

Wed 23 Jan 2019 10:17 PM by Dragonn

chryso wrote: ↑
Wed 23 Jan 2019 2:22 PM
How about if we increase it to 20 mins but you can only have one up at a time?

Bad idea imo

Wed 23 Jan 2019 10:39 PM by defiasbandit

Buff potions and charge buffs should be on 20 minute durations.

Charge buffs and charge DDs should be on the same 2 minute cooldown.

The buffing system needs a lot of QoL. This needs to be addressed. The system is a clunky mess.

Thu 24 Jan 2019 1:57 PM by chryso

defiasbandit wrote: ↑
Wed 23 Jan 2019 10:39 PM
The buffing system needs a lot of QoL. This needs to be addressed. The system is a clunky mess.

Everyone is on the same playing field. That is fair. Just because you, personally, don't like it doesn't mean it is a mess.

Thu 24 Jan 2019 3:27 PM by Takii

Agreed that they should be 20 minutes (or 23 like other timer buffs).

For potions, being 10 minutes is annoying but is not a huge deal since barrels are very available.

Fri 25 Jan 2019 8:05 AM by inoeth

just do more pve if you want all the charges up lol!
i really hope there will be no qol on this because it is ridiculous to charge so many buffs.
if we wanted that, why are we not allowed to use buffbots? imo prices for recharge should be higher so nobody is able to charge himself without doing massive pve.
this is a no buff bot server... get it!

Fri 25 Jan 2019 3:03 PM by Takii

...that's not really how it works.

If charges are available at all, they will be used. Making them more expensive or more annoying (by having them be 10 minutes) doesn't make them less prevalent, it just adds frustration to the experience. People are still going to go through the trouble of recharging them every hour, they're just going to be generally less happy while playing.

Fri 25 Jan 2019 3:33 PM by Bradekes

Takii wrote: ↑
Fri 25 Jan 2019 3:03 PM
...that's not really how it works.

If charges are available at all, they will be used. Making them more expensive or more annoying (by having them be 10 minutes) doesn't make them less prevalent, it just adds frustration to the experience. People are still going to go through the trouble of recharging them every hour, they're just going to be generally less happy while playing.

This guy sees the light. Let's add casual enjoyment not grinding on perpetuating nonsense. I don't want to have to worry about my potion count on all my toons. Just add this stat buff from pots on bindstone as free 2min cooldown buff w/20min duration. That way the general population is all on the same level.

Fri 25 Jan 2019 6:49 PM by Quik

Or get a buffing class friend and have perma buffs =)

Seriously, please don't add to pots/buff items. The game is about all the classes and not making non buffing classes easier because you don't like not having buffs.

Fri 25 Jan 2019 7:10 PM by defiasbandit

Quik wrote: ↑
Fri 25 Jan 2019 6:49 PM
Or get a buffing class friend and have perma buffs =)

Seriously, please don't add to pots/buff items. The game is about all the classes and not making non buffing classes easier because you don't like not having buffs.

You should not be forced to play with a buffing class. It limits and restricts so many playstyles and group combos. That design mentality is so flawed and one of the reasons so many players quit.

Look at DOTA 2. You can pick and choose from any of the supports, because none of them have mandatory spells like Speed or Buffs. That is how you design support classes, and create as many group combos possible. Movement speed and Buff classes were the worst things about RvR in this game.

Fri 25 Jan 2019 7:12 PM by Bradekes

Quik wrote: ↑
Fri 25 Jan 2019 6:49 PM
Or get a buffing class friend and have perma buffs =)

Well I will tell you why... Because you're an ungrateful friend if you constantly expect someone to run around as your buff slave... Seriously there is a reason people ran buffbots... Because that spec is boring.. No one says, ohh hotdang I'm so glad there's no buff bots here, now I can finally enjoy my 50enhance cleric in a group!

Fri 25 Jan 2019 8:10 PM by Quik

I don't disagree with any of you.

Personally I would like to see buffs completely redone to be much less effective and see pots gone.

The problem is...buffing classes ARE part of the game and some people DO enjoy playing a buffing support class and be able to participate in different ways.

So either tone down all buffs and remove pots...or leave it like it is because it is completely unfair to the classes like Friar/Ranger/Warden/other class with buff line that you can play a non buffing class that gets special perks like say scout and a shield AND be able to use buff pots to basically also have PF line of the ranger, let alone make a class like infy/scout even better by making pots/charges longer. They need SOME sort of penalty to offset the fact they get everything another class gets plus their own special feature.

Fri 25 Jan 2019 9:16 PM by Bradekes

Quik wrote: ↑
Fri 25 Jan 2019 8:10 PM
...or leave it like it is because it is completely unfair to the classes like Friar/Ranger/Warden/other class with buff line that you can play a non buffing class that gets special perks like say scout and a shield AND be able to use buff pots to basically also have PF line of the ranger, let alone make a class like infy/scout even better by making pots/charges longer. They need SOME sort of penalty to offset the fact they get everything another class gets plus their own special feature.

Leaving 10min pots doesn't change anything for 20min pots for any of the balance issues you have. I also think there should be a fix for buffs in this game, but that won't happen and to argue against your point of these minor buff pot hurting buff classes - buff classes can use them too, and they get more buffs than they normally would, so tell me how it hurts them again? I would like to see warden on higher damage table like friar because that's fair but no other reason not to increase duration of buffs has any reasoning TBH if there's not full over hall.