Class - Race Combinations

Started 29 Dec 2018
by Uthred
in RvR
The following Class - Race Combinations are possible on Phoenix:

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Albion

Paladin: Briton / Highlander / Avalonian / Saracen

Scout: Briton / Highlander / Inconnu / Saracen

Theurgist: Briton / Avalonian / Half-Ogre

Wizard: Briton / Avalonian / Half-Ogre

Infiltrator: Briton / Inconnu / Saracen

Mercenary: Briton / Highlander / Inconnu / Avalonian / Saracen / Half-Ogre

Cabalist: Briton / Inconnu / Avalonian / Saracen / Half-Ogre

Armsman: Briton / Highlander / Inconnu / Saracen / Half-Ogre / Avalonian

Minstrel: Briton / Highlander / Saracen

Cleric: Briton / Highlander / Avalonian

Sorcerer: Briton / Inconnu / Avalonian / Saracen / Half-Ogre

Necromancer: Briton / Inconnu / Saracen

Reaver: Briton / Inconnu / Saracen

Friar: Briton

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Hibernia

Blademaster: Celt / Elf / Firbolg / Shar

Champion: Celt / Elf / Lurikeen / Shar

Druid: Celt / Sylvan / Firbolg

Animist: Celt / Sylvan / Firbolg

Mentalist: Celt / Elf / Lurikeen / Shar

Hero: Celt / Sylvan / Firbolg / Lurikeen / Shar

Warden: Celt / Sylvan / Firbolg

Bard: Celt / Firbolg

Ranger: Celt / Elf / Lurikeen / Shar

Valewalker: Celt / Sylvan / Firbolg

Enchanter: Elf / Lurikeen

Nightshade: Elf / Lurikeen

Eldritch: Elf / Lurikeen

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Midgard

Thane: Norseman / Dwarf / Troll / Frostalf

Shadowblade: Norseman / Valkyn / Kobold

Hunter: Norseman / Dwarf / Valkyn / Kobold

Spiritmaster: Norseman / Kobold / Frostalf

Runemaster: Norseman / Dwarf / Kobold / Frostalf

Berserker: Norseman / Dwarf / Valkyn / Troll

Warrior: Norseman / Dwarf / Valkyn / Troll / Kobold

Skald: Norseman / Dwarf / Troll / Kobold

Healer: Norseman / Dwarf / Frostalf

Savage: Norseman / Dwarf / Valkyn / Troll / Kobold

Bonedancer: Valkyn / Troll / Kobold

Shaman: Troll / Kobold / Frostalf
Sat 29 Dec 2018 11:05 PM by Nesnahoj
Will this be reflected in the character creation screen?
Sun 30 Dec 2018 12:52 AM by gruenesschaf
No which is why it's posted
Sun 30 Dec 2018 5:31 AM by Nesnahoj
Fair enough, thanks for the reply
Tue 1 Jan 2019 5:21 PM by Loko
Hi. Any thought about expanding the class-race combinations to what was later introduced? Thanks.

I believe the new combos were:

Albion
Friar: Avalonian / Highlander
Minstrel: Inconnu
Wizard: Inconnu
Necromancer: Avalonian

Hibernia
Animist: Elf
Blademaster: Lurikeen
Champion: Sylvan
Nightshade: Celt
Warden: Shar

Midgard
Berzerker: Kobold
Bonedancer: Frostalf
Hunter: Frostalf
Shadowblade: Frostalf
Shaman: Dwarf
Thane: Valkyn
Tue 1 Jan 2019 6:58 PM by Maxim
No plans to expand the combinations.
Fri 4 Jan 2019 7:11 AM by howzitbrahs
i'd give my first born child for lurikeen bard. keep that in mind
Fri 4 Jan 2019 7:58 AM by Enrighteous
As if bards weren't a big enough nuisance.
Mon 7 Jan 2019 3:37 PM by Tivook
Let the class / race combo be completely free.

Oh and introduce ToA classes, because why not. We need valkyries!
Mon 7 Jan 2019 4:08 PM by Pedro
Tivook wrote: ↑
Mon 7 Jan 2019 3:37 PM
Let the class / race combo be completely free.

Oh and introduce ToA classes, because why not. We need valkyries!

NoooI don't want my ears to bleed hearing the banshees!
Fri 11 Jan 2019 4:14 AM by Anonymouse
Dwarf Spiritmaster IMO
Fri 11 Jan 2019 4:20 AM by Emeryc
I'd pay money for a Keen Blademaster!
Fri 11 Jan 2019 4:43 AM by The Skies Asunder
I would love to see the class/race selection expanded as well. Even if it was just the ones Mythic/EA/Broadsword eventually introduced. Makes me sad that Celts can't be Nightshade, always did on Live servers too. By the time it was available I didn't want to reroll though.
Sat 12 Jan 2019 3:06 AM by ntp123
Where can I find a list of the most optimal race/class combos tho?
Sat 26 Jan 2019 1:35 PM by MMOWarrior
Just a thought... this is the last place I would look for this info...

Maybe PvE forum would be better..
Tue 29 Jan 2019 10:18 AM by Halma
MMOWarrior wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Jan 2019 1:35 PM
Just a thought... this is the last place I would look for this info...

Maybe PvE forum would be better..

It's in the wiki under "important information" as well
http://playphoenix.wiki/phoenix-class-race-combinations/
Fri 8 Feb 2019 10:13 PM by rubaduck
I say keep it as it is. The newer race combinations were added in a MUCH later patch, and while this isn't a pure 1.65, it doesn't classify as a QoL to give more race combinations, it shifts the powerhouse a lot more.

If you don't see your live combination here... maybe go play live?
Sat 9 Feb 2019 12:06 PM by Loko
rubaduck wrote: ↑
Fri 8 Feb 2019 10:13 PM
If you don't see your live combination here... maybe go play live?

Players are entitled to their opinions and nobody is arguing on this post. There is no need to say things like that. This is a great community. Let's keep it that way.
Sat 9 Feb 2019 3:45 PM by rubaduck
Loko wrote: ↑
Sat 9 Feb 2019 12:06 PM
rubaduck wrote: ↑
Fri 8 Feb 2019 10:13 PM
If you don't see your live combination here... maybe go play live?

Players are entitled to their opinions and nobody is arguing on this post. There is no need to say things like that. This is a great community. Let's keep it that way.

Yes but, when we are beating a dead horse, isn't it time to point it out?

The devs has said over and over since the beginning of beta that they won't add any other class combinations. A quick search in the forums, and you'll find countless of posts with the same repeating request, with the repeating answer.
Fri 1 Mar 2019 1:47 AM by JaggedOne
Devs, any reason why Sorcs can be so many races, but Wiz & Theurg is restricted to only 3 ? I wanted to make my Theurg Saracen and was really surprised that it wasn't a valid race choice. Is this some kind of old lore thing about the diff in Sorcs vs. the other two caster classes ?

Thanks !!!
Mon 1 Apr 2019 3:34 AM by Joc
howzitbrahs wrote: ↑
Fri 4 Jan 2019 7:11 AM
i'd give my first born child for lurikeen bard. keep that in mind

I'll give his firstborn also for Celt NS.
Sat 27 Apr 2019 8:49 AM by Bloodyface
I can see that it is a question of balance to not grant all races access to any class because of their attributes. But what would be if you make it so the stats stay as created but you can change the appearance on a npc later to any race you want. This would a little hit the RvR by identify your targets a bit slower but would open nice new animations and appearance/variety in the world.
Sat 27 Apr 2019 9:20 PM by Pendalith
half orge necromancer
Sun 28 Apr 2019 12:22 AM by Hodge
Scarcen friar...
Wed 8 May 2019 8:07 PM by Horus
Never understood why you can have Briton infilts, Norse Shadowbladess, but no Celt Nightshades.
Wed 12 Jun 2019 8:11 AM by Thaelion
Vote for = The class/race combination should be completely free.
Wed 12 Jun 2019 8:23 AM by Sepplord
Thaelion wrote: ↑
Wed 12 Jun 2019 8:11 AM
Vote for = The class/race combination should be completely free.

completely?

as in Troll-SBs and lurikeen-fullgrps? Oo


do we really want that?
Wed 12 Jun 2019 9:26 AM by Thaelion
I would find very funny :-D
Wed 19 Jun 2019 2:31 AM by Leandrys
Elf animist <3
Thu 9 Jan 2020 9:19 AM by Llaw
Should probably consider allowing Celts to be Nightshades, considering the other two realms have three different options, including their base humanoid race (Briton and Norseman).

Hibernia can only choose from two races that are basically the same, stat-wise.
Thu 2 Apr 2020 10:32 PM by Failwalker
Elf Animist
The magical realm should have access to highdex/int races for all of their mage-classes. It took live daoc as long as adding det to skalds... 2016ish i believe
Sun 26 Apr 2020 11:54 AM by Renork
Eld - Celt and Norse - BD. These two combinations wouldn’t break balance since they have lower dex compared to the other races, but it would be nice aesthetically.
Sun 10 May 2020 9:49 PM by samuele2723
So weird friar gets only 1 race... please give an option

vote for Iconnu!
Wed 3 Jun 2020 2:06 PM by Centenario
I would like to see:

Albion:
Inconnu Cleric
Inconnu Wizard
Avalonian Scout
Avalonian Reaver
Avalonian Infiltrator
Half Ogre Infiltrator
Highlander Necromancer
Highlander Infiltrator
Saracen Cleric (maybe impossible cause 30 base dex difference with highlander)

Hibernia:
Shar Nightshade
Shar Eldritch
Celt Nightshade

Midgard:
Dwarf Shadowblade
Frostalf Shadowblade
Frostalf Hunter

Can also make them unlockable through achievements.
Thu 10 Sep 2020 4:49 PM by Centenario
Centenario wrote: ↑
Wed 3 Jun 2020 2:06 PM
I would like to see:

Albion:
Inconnu Cleric
Inconnu Wizard
Avalonian Scout
Avalonian Reaver
Avalonian Infiltrator
Half Ogre Infiltrator
Highlander Necromancer
Highlander Infiltrator
Saracen Cleric (maybe impossible cause 30 base dex difference with highlander)

Hibernia:
Shar Nightshade
Shar Eldritch
Celt Nightshade

Midgard:
Dwarf Shadowblade
Frostalf Shadowblade
Frostalf Hunter

Can also make them unlockable through achievements.

Maybe also:
Inconnu Paladin
Half-Ogre Scout

I don't play enough the other realm to be able to tell what would be cool and not too gamebreaking.
Thu 10 Sep 2020 7:35 PM by DinoTriz
WildWilbur wrote: ↑
Thu 10 Sep 2020 6:33 PM
Troll SB!



True story, the Norweigan vikings back in The Battle of Stanford Bridge actually used Troll SBs in their raid.

The English were instantly surprised, as they were expecting Kobolds.
Fri 11 Sep 2020 6:26 AM by Sepplord
dwarf everything

dwarfs > all
Mon 12 Oct 2020 7:18 AM by Eruin
Just a remark: Avalonian Armsmen are definitely possible on this server like Avalonian Mercenaries are possible, but the combination is missing on the list.
Mon 12 Oct 2020 7:44 AM by Uthred
Added the Avalonian Armsman to the list.
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