Play is too dependent on purge....

So how about @35 everyone gets Purge I, on a two minute reuse timer.

Sat 24 Apr 2021 6:19 AM by bbrandin82

i dont know about a 2min reuse,,, Purge 2 is 15min resuse ,,
Though the idea of everyone getting purge 1 atleast with same timer,,, for free at lvl 35 kind of makes sense to some degree.

Sat 24 Apr 2021 7:19 AM by gotwqqd

bbrandin82 wrote: ↑
Sat 24 Apr 2021 6:19 AM
i dont know about a 2min reuse,,, Purge 2 is 15min resuse ,,
Though the idea of everyone getting purge 1 atleast with same timer,,, for free at lvl 35 kind of makes sense to some degree.

The 5 second delay is HUGE. Having it every two minutes wouldn’t be overstepping.
This of course wouldn’t change the timers of Purge II and beyond. Though the timers would be shared.

15 minutes is just far too long to, in most cases, be a massive disadvantage.
I think a change to this will lead to more adventurous gameplay, instead of hiding for lengthy timers.

Sat 24 Apr 2021 8:08 PM by joshisanonymous

Yeah no. As a solo caster, I don't like this idea at all, and I'm really not sure how you decrease the importance of purge by... giving everyone more purge?

Sun 25 Apr 2021 6:51 AM by bbrandin82

if you are going to RvR solo,, duo,, BG, 8man you need purge,,, it should be a basic spell giving to you as you lvl up.. then you just upgrade it with points

Sun 25 Apr 2021 7:04 AM by nicolas

All suggestions becomes more and more annoying day after after days. Give also a free ip4 to everyone and also aug passive stats to5 for free to everyone ???? Seriously it is annoying and hope will never happens. Purge is a basic ra that you get for free at lvl35 only by turning branches for rvr task... need rr1L5 giving it for free on 2 min reuse timer what a dumb idea. By doing this you makes high rr even more powerfull the grinding of rr even more useless (with all task, keeps, rotation task, guard kills task, realm task, task for killing player...) it is already easy to reach rr5+ by playing casualy in maybe 2 or 3 weeks or just wait the next event.

Looks like you never played original statement of game at release when it took over 15 played days to reach lvl 50. The statement and adjument of phoenix is perfect for everyone as for pve solo, groups xp grinding as for earning rr.

Sun 25 Apr 2021 8:23 AM by Ceen

Get a group kaboom purge is not that important anymore.

Sun 25 Apr 2021 8:23 AM by Ceen

Get a group kaboom purge is not that important anymore.

Sun 25 Apr 2021 8:37 AM by Centenario

In golf, you have something called handicap.
It is meant to make you able play together with more experienced player, while still having a chance to compete.
What we could do is give players under RR5 so free RAs that are essential to compete, some form of handicap.
For example:
Purge 3 for all
Tireless 1 (already given - forever)
Long wind (already given - forever)
Det9 for stoic tanks and heavy dps
MoArts 7 for casters except hybrids
MoArc 7 for spec buffers
AoM 5 for stoic tanks
MoPain 5 for HeavyDPS
Viper 2 for poison stealthers
Vanish 1 for poison stealthers
Falcon eye 5 for archers
IP 2 for archers

Upon reaching some handicap ranks you’d lose some free RAs
If purge 3 is 15 RA points then at 30 RA points you will have enough to take purge 3 and 15 points of something else, so you should lose access for free purge 3.
So at 4L0, let’s say you’d lose free purge 3
If on top you have det9 worth 22points you’d lose that at 44 points so maybe divide it into 2 tiers
At 6L you lose 4 ranks
At 8L you lose the remaining ranks
This would mean that a fresh character gets around 40 free RA points of RAs to be able to compete.
These RAs are lost overtime so you can start customizing your character from day 1.
Kinda like an autotrain mechanic but for RAs, you get free points when training those RAs only until a specific RR and then you are forcerespeced at these tiers.

Sun 25 Apr 2021 10:27 AM by boridi

Centenario wrote: ↑
Sun 25 Apr 2021 8:37 AM
In golf, you have something called handicap.
<ridiculous idea>

Or just play for two weeks and get to RR4/RR5.

Sun 25 Apr 2021 11:09 AM by Irkeno

Centenario wrote: ↑
Sun 25 Apr 2021 8:37 AM
In golf, you have something called handicap.
It is meant to make you able play together with more experienced player, while still having a chance to compete.
What we could do is give players under RR5 so free RAs that are essential to compete, some form of handicap.
For example:
Purge 3 for all
Tireless 1 (already given - forever)
Long wind (already given - forever)
Det9 for stoic tanks and heavy dps
MoArts 7 for casters except hybrids
MoArc 7 for spec buffers
AoM 5 for stoic tanks
MoPain 5 for HeavyDPS
Viper 2 for poison stealthers
Vanish 1 for poison stealthers
Falcon eye 5 for archers
IP 2 for archers

Upon reaching some handicap ranks you’d lose some free RAs
If purge 3 is 15 RA points then at 30 RA points you will have enough to take purge 3 and 15 points of something else, so you should lose access for free purge 3.
So at 4L0, let’s say you’d lose free purge 3
If on top you have det9 worth 22points you’d lose that at 44 points so maybe divide it into 2 tiers
At 6L you lose 4 ranks
At 8L you lose the remaining ranks
This would mean that a fresh character gets around 40 free RA points of RAs to be able to compete.
These RAs are lost overtime so you can start customizing your character from day 1.
Kinda like an autotrain mechanic but for RAs, you get free points when training those RAs only until a specific RR and then you are forcerespeced at these tiers.

never complain, never pander.

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Sun 25 Apr 2021 2:37 PM by Sagz

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Fri 23 Apr 2021 11:47 AM
So how about @35 everyone gets Purge I, on a two minute reuse timer.

ONLY way this would be agreeable.

1. 2 min timer is not an option, keep purge 1 as it is.
2. Purge 2 costs 10 pts.

This game has lasted 20 years without this, I am sure it has not be an issue in ppl quitting or not playing.

But food for thought, at 35 you can purge 1 rather easily by doing a few rvr tasks. And if you level a toon in the level playing field event, you will leave at 50 and worse case scenario RR 3L5 or higher, thus having purge.

So totally not needed by any means.

Sun 2 May 2021 7:46 AM by gotwqqd

Sagz wrote: ↑
Sun 25 Apr 2021 2:37 PM
gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Fri 23 Apr 2021 11:47 AM
So how about @35 everyone gets Purge I, on a two minute reuse timer.

ONLY way this would be agreeable.

1. 2 min timer is not an option, keep purge 1 as it is.
2. Purge 2 costs 10 pts.

This game has lasted 20 years without this, I am sure it has not be an issue in ppl quitting or not playing.

But food for thought, at 35 you can purge 1 rather easily by doing a few rvr tasks. And if you level a toon in the level playing field event, you will leave at 50 and worse case scenario RR 3L5 or higher, thus having purge.

So totally not needed by any means.

I’d rather have purge 1 on a reduced timer(between 2-3 minutes) than it being free as it is.
The argument/point is about allowing people to be more engaged playing than waiting for all their instants to be up.

If you would be higher than purge I you would have two purge abilities, with their timers shared to an extent.

This would allow for instance the ability of someone to use purge 1 on a disease, yet in two minutes have its use again for a 60 second mezz.
If you use purge 2 to clear mezz instantly and then become diseased it allows clearing disease after 2 minutes. But the purge two would still be 15 minutes from next use.

Sun 2 May 2021 12:11 PM by DJ2000

In your endless fight against the current state of a "disease", you went from free purge at 35 to having 2 separate purges.
Which kinda does remind me of the FA+cure disease combo idea.

Well, you have the right goal in mind, but the wrong means trying to accomplish it.

Sun 2 May 2021 4:12 PM by gotwqqd

DJ2000 wrote: ↑
Sun 2 May 2021 12:11 PM
In your endless fight against the current state of a "disease", you went from free purge at 35 to having 2 separate purges.
Which kinda does remind me of the FA+cure disease combo idea.

Well, you have the right goal in mind, but the wrong means trying to accomplish it.

Well...
1. This was never based on disease...personally I didn’t care about its length but thought this was a solution for all that did
2. I always intended that purge was 2. But they are not separate, you are just able to use a ramped down version to allow a shorter timer. I don’t know if another way to do it aside from two separate skill icons .

I made the mistake of not fully explaining how it would work in conjunction with higher levels of purge until I responded in response 3.

Mon 3 May 2021 8:08 AM by byron

For a tank you need to be just 4L7 to have Det 9 and Purge 3. It can be easily achieved with rvr tasks, obviously you need to play more than a day in a a month

But I would agree to find a way to incentive low rank toons to roam around the frontier also outside the zergs.

Mon 3 May 2021 1:42 PM by ExcretusMaximus

Might I suggest, that if you despise CC so much (and you clearly do, given your post history), a game whose combat is literally designed around CC may not be the best choice for you?

Mon 3 May 2021 10:20 PM by gotwqqd

ExcretusMaximus wrote: ↑
Mon 3 May 2021 1:42 PM
Might I suggest, that if you despise CC so much (and you clearly do, given your post history), a game whose combat is literally designed around CC may not be the best choice for you?

You have no clue. I love daoc myriad of cc types.
Too bad you are a simple buffoon who gets off attacking anyone and everyone.