Realm Switch for money - Phoenix Freeshard

Tani came up with this very good idea to open realm switches without timer for a buyable realm switch stone.

I suggested a cost between 3k-5k feathers to match what it costs to switch between PvE and GvG.

I think it should not be 2 costly, because else poor 8men might not wanna switch for monetary reasons, so i prefer 3k feathers.

I think 3k feathers is high enough to disencourage any daily realm hopping.

But it is cheap enough to open it for a GvG group, if they realise, "oh today there are 8 listed alb groups and just 1 hib and 1 mid group, we are on the wrong realm" - so they can invest in the stones and play hib or mid on that day = more healthy gvg for every grp on the list, because the 7 alb grps have 1 more grp to fight and if 2 more switch it balances the grps completely.

The investment would be 8 times 3k feathers = 24k feathers for an 8man to switch together, so i think that is nowhere close to too cheap.

Of course a smallman or a solo could also use this option, if they have the money and want to hopp onto todays underdog realm, which i can only see as beneficial for everyone. - That way the 4h timer could stay, but would have a bypass for money option.

Fri 30 Apr 2021 5:49 PM by bculpepper

I like the suggestion.

I think the feather cost should be a little higher. If an 8-man wants to move they could do a DS run in 30 minutes and get more than 2x the feathers necessary so that seems really cheap to me. I think between 5k and 10k feathers is more appropriate.

Fri 30 Apr 2021 7:16 PM by Nephamael

I like the suggestion.

I think the feather cost should be a little higher. If an 8-man wants to move they could do a DS run in 30 minutes and get more than 2x the feathers necessary so that seems really cheap to me. I think between 5k and 10k feathers is more appropriate.

Don't overrate the ability of GvG groups to do PvE, the last time i joined one who tried, it took almost 2h to finish a DS run and almost everyone was extremely annoyed by DS and pledged to never PvE again ^^.

The reality for most groups would be that the 1 or 2 members of the grp who sometimes run DS/HoH/Cele have to buy those stones for their entire grp.

And i think burdening 1 or 2 people with a 3k feathers x8 = 24k feathers burden is more than enough to prevent realm hopping to happen every day.

Fri 30 Apr 2021 8:49 PM by vxr

That's a good idea. What if there was also a timer. Like you can only use 1 stone a day or once a week?

Sat 1 May 2021 7:28 PM by JUSTNSANE

Realm timers are fine as they are it forces people to make choices if you do not like the choice you made tough.

Sat 1 May 2021 7:37 PM by Beeblebrox

Nephamael wrote: ↑
Fri 30 Apr 2021 4:01 PM
Tani came up with this very good idea to open realm switches without timer for a buyable realm switch stone.

I suggested a cost between 3k-5k feathers to match what it costs to switch between PvE and GvG.

I think it should not be 2 costly, because else poor 8men might not wanna switch for monetary reasons, so i prefer 3k feathers.

I think 3k feathers is high enough to disencourage any daily realm hopping.

But it is cheap enough to open it for a GvG group, if they realise, "oh today there are 8 listed alb groups and just 1 hib and 1 mid group, we are on the wrong realm" - so they can invest in the stones and play hib or mid on that day = more healthy gvg for every grp on the list, because the 7 alb grps have 1 more grp to fight and if 2 more switch it balances the grps completely.

The investment would be 8 times 3k feathers = 24k feathers for an 8man to switch together, so i think that is nowhere close to too cheap.

Of course a smallman or a solo could also use this option, if they have the money and want to hopp onto todays underdog realm, which i can only see as beneficial for everyone. - That way the 4h timer could stay, but would have a bypass for money option.

I thought the reason behind realm switch timers was to hinder spies and people from different realms cooperating. Being able to buy realm switch doesn't help with that.

Mon 3 May 2021 4:53 PM by Nephamael

I thought the reason behind realm switch timers was to hinder spies and people from different realms cooperating. Being able to buy realm switch doesn't help with that.

The problem here is people joining the discord servers of the enemy zergleader, not people who actually join the other realms frontier zone/bgs to spy.
Besides - all zergleaders on Phoenix always disencourage illegal spying and encourage ingame spying (by stealthers, speedclasses checking on the enemy zergs.)

A realm timer does help this issue not a bit -
The main reason why the realm timer exists is, because the Phoenix team does not want people to realmhop if their zerg is losing and join the winning team.

I think realmhop would be prevented pretty well by it costing a significant amount of money (3k feathers per hop).
And it could be limited to one hop per 12h (so you can hop again the next day, if you can afford it and have a reason = mostly GvG/Small/Solo)