So, I made an Infil - Phoenix Freeshard

specced 50 Thrust and just had Dragonfang and Garrote on my bar. No perf nothing else. I used Lifebane and disease only. I used Garotte to attack 100% of the time from stealth and close to 80% of the time, I would evade their first/second swing.... then Dragonfang! Never played an infil, but found it fun but made me feel kinda dirty because it all seemed too cheesy to be able to rob a player of 9 secs play time and melee them to death. My RA was just Quick III and Dodger 9

Wed 24 Oct 2018 5:01 PM by Luluko

yeah if you played live the last few years and got used to 5sec stuns and purge on 15min cd, slam on lighttanks and dragonfang are way over the top that you cant even go into melee range against certain classes without purge up, especially if they arent even alone

Wed 24 Oct 2018 5:27 PM by florin

imagine getting slammed every fight before even getting a hit off. ran a friar in emain and every 2v1, 3v1, 8v1 - it's slam, slam, slam.

Or castable baseline stun etc.

Wed 24 Oct 2018 8:03 PM by relvinian

I played a smite cleric and then saw the assassins evading my swings 50% of the time and I was like WTF.

That was it for me.

Wed 24 Oct 2018 8:37 PM by relvinian

I tried it. Made a guy named dragonfang cheese. I went out and got 9 kills and 4 dbs before I died to 3 players. Had 2 of them stunned when they 3rd killed me.

Wed 24 Oct 2018 8:46 PM by Dominus

relvinian wrote: ↑
Wed 24 Oct 2018 8:37 PM
I tried it. Made a guy named dragonfang cheese. I went out and got 9 kills and 4 dbs before I died to 3 players. Had 2 of them stunned when they 3rd killed me.

Did you feel dirty doing it?

Wed 24 Oct 2018 8:55 PM by Renork

Luluko wrote: ↑
Wed 24 Oct 2018 5:01 PM
yeah if you played live the last few years and got used to 5sec stuns and purge on 15min cd, slam on lighttanks and dragonfang are way over the top that you cant even go into melee range against certain classes without purge up, especially if they arent even alone

This ^

I'm used to 5s slams and no 9s stun DF on live, so having to face that every fight with purge down almost always is a pain :^) 1v1 fights are one sided unless you can purge the stun, and it is still quite powerful when small manning.

Wed 24 Oct 2018 10:37 PM by relvinian

Dominus wrote: ↑
Wed 24 Oct 2018 8:46 PM
relvinian wrote: ↑
Wed 24 Oct 2018 8:37 PM
I tried it. Made a guy named dragonfang cheese. I went out and got 9 kills and 4 dbs before I died to 3 players. Had 2 of them stunned when they 3rd killed me.

Did you feel dirty doing it?

I like challenges, not super easy mode. Also shield slam for 9 seconds and hib stun for 9 sec pretty much all easy mode

Wed 31 Oct 2018 6:09 PM by poisonclover

90% of stealthers run purge, some of never see a fight without it some of us never see a fight with it being used. its part of the gamble and fun.

Fri 2 Nov 2018 8:58 PM by Sepplord

infiltrator population looks quite balanced to shadowblade population...
looking at the top100 of stealthers there are currently 20infils, and 22shadowblades

Looking only at infiltrators, there are 26 that made it to 6L1 or more,
compared to 37 Shadowblades at 6L1 or more

devs will probably have better stats to monitor such things, but if infiltrators have it that easy, wouldn't we see more of them?

especially since albs are more populated and have the minstrel advantage for stealthgrouping

Sat 3 Nov 2018 8:06 AM by Isavyr

relvinian wrote: ↑
Wed 24 Oct 2018 10:37 PM
I like challenges, not super easy mode. Also shield slam for 9 seconds and hib stun for 9 sec pretty much all easy mode

For once I agree with you-- Even a broken clock is correct twice a day, eh Relv?

Though, to be frank, I don't agree fully. Caster stun, as a magic spell, has its duration reduced by resists, so it's not as reliable as the other stuns. I agree it's a little cheesy though.