"What I am / What I would like to / What I think / What I see " about the game

Started 20 Oct 2018
by Tristaluna
in Ask the Team
Hey there boys, Tristaluna here.

I'm the GL of Vendetta (ALB) and I would like to start saying that we were really happy to be here on this server.

We started this summer (June/July the most) to take part of a new born for the world of DAoC freeshards.
What we found? A very good server with GMs and DEVs who listen to the crowd (nice apparently).
We exped with some sacrifices (after 16 years of DAoC, even this xp it's a sacrifice), we built up the first smallmen group, we crafted all the stuff and we were happy to have our own guild in here.
We spent here months and we saw many changes, many bugs patched quickly (thanks for your work) and many balances in game...
Many good moments, a lot of fun, many bad moments as well.

Why I'm doing a post about it?
Because I want to understand what is changed in the community (and in the GMs thoughts) to bring the situation here, where you CAN'T play stealthers class anymore.
**I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE 25% b****hit FOR THE I50**
**THIS IS A LONG TERM LOOK FOR THE RELEASE**



What I would like to play is what I really love: stealthers.
What I would is have fun and fight smallmen, 2v5, 3v3, 3v5 as we always did if you check the videos. (not proud of kill you Solos,but you add, so we have to clean)
What I would like to have is a server that respect the DAoC gameplay.
What I would is revive the old memories we have of this game.



What I think and what I see, it's a community that blames on everything/anyone for mechanics that were common when the official game was alive.

I saw people cry for the rogs drop rate and eggs, too easy to lvl up, because you are all from Uth like me and you like to suffer.
They said they will low it.

Back in the days, on the official, AMG was full of stealthers from all the 3 realms, and when you went there you didn't know what to expect, normal things.
It was almost impossible to SOLO, just because this is not a SOLO game maybe?
They changed it anyway, and put some tasks, but you were not happy about the reward: too high!
So they nerfed it, they nerfed kill rps as well and now we kill in solo for a bunch of RPs.

I saw people cry for the stealth zerg, they changed stealth as well ruining the gameplay AT ALL for the moment.

What I didn't see is someone that takes his balls in hand and try to gather a group to fight the stealth "zerg" (when we are all online we are 5).
We are not that many but we are one of the most hated guild, you know why?
We are able to play our classes, we are organized and we ranked up/made templates by ourselves fast.

A solo mage, can't blame anyone if killed by a FG... A solo tank can't complaint if he gets killed, this is not a solo game boys.
Do something to improve you and your team, 'cause this is a team based gameplay.
Other hand we didn't write a single word about the hibs 2/3/4 groups zerg when the task were implemented, we just wiped and GG.

But now the situation is no longer sustainable because we are changing the BASIC rules of DAoC.
You are a visible, you have to suffer to find me and dehide cause it's my only chance to fight a non-stealth class.
You are alone, you get killed by 2/3/4, FORM A GROUP FFS.
You get killed by 3/4 stealthers and you are 4/5 visis, learn to play then cause we have nothing more than you except the surprise effect that we were denied for the cries of a bunch.

What I see is visis who just turn when they see the PA incoming even sprinting with speed.
What I see is full groups speed 6 stuck on a stealther.
What I see is an embarassing harassment against who want to play a stealth class on Discord.
What I see is not freedom anymore.


For the moment it's all I want/had to say.
Hoping for a fast back to the server that made me / us fell in love, I wish you a good day.

(I will not answer to the unrespectful comments that I expect from you, just in case you write something offensive involving my person, I let you know that I think exactly the same about your mom)

Peace! ^^
Sat 20 Oct 2018 7:07 AM by kmark101
How about stop whining in a BETA TEST and be helpful ie. TEST THE ACTUAL GAMEPLAY with multiple aspects, instead of selfishly worrying about your own stuff. If you feel like this game/server means a lot to you (as you described), then you should maybe think about it, instead of only yourself.
Sat 20 Oct 2018 7:45 AM by Druth
You have to put in risks for stealthers, that is not just other stealthers.
The problem is we had visi and stealth worlds before, stealthers could attack visis, but visis could not fight back because they could not find stealthers.

If you think stealthers should be immune to visibels, unless they have a stealther with them, then you are asking for to much.


Your guild are not the only ones who wants to relive old memories of DaoC.
And to me that was not a 30%+ stealth population, and it was not stealth groups everywhere.
You will leave if you can't play stealther with immunity, I will leave if the server becomes packed with stealthers.
Sat 20 Oct 2018 5:15 PM by Turtle006
I play an Inf also, Coninu. Dark Auspices. I have no problems with the server stealth mechanics. (The 25% limit I don't like, but it is only for beta and I understand it.) I haven't had many more issues finding kills and fights that I did when we were immune to visis. I mostly duo with my wife's scout and sometimes my other wife plays a minstrel. (She is a noob, it is not as big a boost as you think) I don't think there will be as many stealth, especially infiltrators, once the server goes live as they are hell to level.
Mon 22 Oct 2018 7:01 AM by Sei
I never play stealther but i support this post, full of comon sense.

Stealther are part of the game, ofc they will be hated by design but that s how it should work.
Mon 22 Oct 2018 8:49 AM by relvinian
This is a custom server. Period.

This is not uthgard, which was also a custom server btw, and it isn't 1.65.

This is a pure custom server. That is my opinion but I think backed up by fact.

This is beta. So, we will get somewhere, eventually, just express your views and let us all work together to get where we are going.

A fun server.
Mon 22 Oct 2018 6:26 PM by Kralin
Turtle006 wrote:
Sat 20 Oct 2018 5:15 PM
I mostly duo with my wife's scout and sometimes my other wife plays a minstrel...

How many wives do you have?
Mon 22 Oct 2018 7:18 PM by Roto23
Kralin wrote:
Mon 22 Oct 2018 6:26 PM
Turtle006 wrote:
Sat 20 Oct 2018 5:15 PM
I mostly duo with my wife's scout and sometimes my other wife plays a minstrel...

How many wives do you have?

I'm counting two. wtg guy with two wives!
Mon 22 Oct 2018 8:02 PM by relvinian
Nobody in their right mind has more than one wife.
Mon 22 Oct 2018 8:12 PM by Dominus
Well I can say it's refreshing to see many Vendetta members joining Midgard's fight against the Alb Stealth Zerg. I've only had one occasion on my SB or Hunter where I couldn't stealth due to a high percentage of stealthers in RvR. Dantes and Tuzia are here, join Midgard, kill the Alb horde.
Tue 23 Oct 2018 12:43 AM by Ganaka
relvinian wrote:
Mon 22 Oct 2018 8:02 PM
Nobody in their right mind has more than one wife.

Holy chizwiz! Why would you want more than one wife? I wouldn't wish two wives on my worst enemy!
Tue 23 Oct 2018 6:59 PM by Turtle006
Kralin wrote:
Mon 22 Oct 2018 6:26 PM
Turtle006 wrote:
Sat 20 Oct 2018 5:15 PM
I mostly duo with my wife's scout and sometimes my other wife plays a minstrel...

How many wives do you have?

As was stated, I only have 2 wives.
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