Ranger Moarcane - Phoenix Freeshard

How much MoArcane are u rangers out there running?

Was thinking of a Celt ranger with 42 PF moarcane 5 and 4 qui at creation for the desired 250. however now im rethinking my plans. would it be worth aiming for no qui at creation and getting higher moarcane mebbe? hmm the dilemma is real ;D

Ill be hybrid specced btw and since moarcane works on every buff in the book including pots. whats ur 5 cents?

So ladies and gents. what are u guys running?

Thu 11 Mar 2021 9:52 AM by Astaa

Doesn't work on pots any more.

Thu 11 Mar 2021 10:37 AM by gotwqqd

Astaa wrote: ↑
Thu 11 Mar 2021 9:52 AM
Doesn't work on pots any more.

Since it affecting pots has been discontinued.
None

But maybe 1 or 2 points is cost effective.

Thu 11 Mar 2021 11:36 AM by DJ2000

Dex/Qui Buffs with various amounts of MoA 1-9: (93 being the cap)

Lvl 06 - Delve 21 - inGame when applied 26 / 26 ; 27 ; 27 ; 28 ; 29 ; 30 ; 31 ; 32 ; 34
Lvl 12 - Delve 28 - inGame when applied 35 / 35 ; 36 ; 37 ; 38 ; 39 ; 40 ; 42 ; 43 ; 45
Lvl 19 - Delve 37 - inGame when applied 46 / 47 ; 48 ; 49 ; 50 ; 51 ; 53 ; 55 ; 57 ; 60
Lvl 29 - Delve 49 - inGame when applied 61 / 62 ; 63 ; 64 ; 66 ; 68 ; 71 ; 73 ; 76 ; 79
Lvl 40 - Delve 63 - inGame when applied 78 / 80 ; 81 ; 83 ; 85 ; 88 ; 91 ; 93 (cap at MoA7+)
LVl 48 - Delve 72 - inGame when applied 90 / 91 ; 93 (cap at MoA2+)

Moa1 or 2 barely ever matters, if anything its the 3 points gain at LVl40 and 48, when compared to the 2 point gained on the lower spells.

Strength and specAf also profit from MoA, but the DA does not.

Unless high level of PF, the benefit, when compared to pots, is mediocre at best. Besides the short speed burst spell, every other ability in PF can be acquired easily enough by other means.

Thu 11 Mar 2021 3:54 PM by stewbeedoo

For a Ranger with high PF (40-42) MoArc 4 is the sweet spot. It gets you more stat points than with an identical investment in Aug Str/Con/etc.

For a Ranger with low PF MoArc is useless.

It sucks that MoArc no longer works on pots - that was a real nerf to Rangers.

Fri 12 Mar 2021 9:04 AM by Galid84

thanks for the answers but the question was what are others running?

according to my calculations the value drops after moArcane 3

moa 3 = 3 stat per 1 realm skill
moa 4 = 2.5 stat per 1 realm skill
moa 5 = 2.4 stat per 1 realm skill

Aug 1-2 str/dex/qui combo
4 stat per realm skill untill 2 in all
3.42 per realm skill using 7 realm skill
3 per realm skill using 10 realm skill

So for the sweet spot valuewise Moarcane 3 for 12 total stat.
Vs Moarcane 4 with a total of 18 stat. spending the 3 realm skill on augs would net 12+12 =24 (this is ofc excluding AF)

Fri 12 Mar 2021 10:05 AM by DJ2000

I stopped playing my Ranger almost a year ago.

I had a Melee Shar Ranger with
35 Stealth
44 Blades
48 PF
18 CD
13 Archery

MoA2
Purge2
IP3
AoM5
Det (dont remember how much, but 7 or 8)

50 qui creation -> 50
+10 starting -> 60
+23 at lvl 50 -> 83
+93 PF + MoA2-> 176
+45(75) Gear -> 221(251)

60 Str creation -> 60
+10 starting -> 70
+15 lvl 50 -> 85
+53 PF+MoA2 -> 138
+75 Gear -> 213
+50 (spec)pot -> 263

50 dex creation -> 50
+45 at lvl 50 -> 95
+93 PF + MoA2-> 188
+75 Gear -> 263
+33 (base)pot -> 296

If i would ever play him again, i might drop PF down to 46 and test out a Pierce build.
Though, i have 0 interest in doing so.