Runies wanted in RvR ? - Phoenix Freeshard

Just wondering if they are like by groups in end-game RvR. Was thinking about making one after release, but don't wanna level 1 to 50 only to be snubbed by groups. If they *are* useful in RvR, I assume they should have PBT, right ?

Thanks !!!!

Sun 21 Oct 2018 9:34 PM by Anonymouse

Yup! Supp RM with pbt tends to be the "meta" spec for 8v8. RC can be fun to switch to/from for solo'ing, or when duo'ing with another caster for debuffing. Cheers

Mon 22 Oct 2018 12:07 AM by Joc

Nearsight is always good, and PBT also. I always ran a runey in my 8 mans back in the day.

Mon 22 Oct 2018 1:45 AM by Dariussdars

Wouldn't a dark rm with 20 supp for ns and the highest damage add in Mid be wanted more in a group than a pbt bot?

Mon 22 Oct 2018 4:55 AM by Kaziera

26 sup for first pbt aoe snare nuke and blue ns. Rest into dark.

Mon 22 Oct 2018 5:08 AM by JaggedOne

Dariussdars wrote: ↑
Mon 22 Oct 2018 1:45 AM
Wouldn't a dark rm with 20 supp for ns and the highest damage add in Mid be wanted more in a group than a pbt bot?

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I suppose it depends on how much 8-second PBT is valued by the given group (or your guild). At 41 Dark/34 Supp, I would still have the 2nd highest of each Dark cold DD. DD/Debuff, and AoE DD/Debuff, and would give up 2 DPS on the damage add. In exchange for that, I would pick up 8-sec PBT, and also gain damage in the DD/Snare (both single and AoE), and 55% NS instead of 35%. I think that most definitely *not* a PBT bot. IMO, it is the more rounded and versatile build, but again, it all depends on what your group likes. Different strokes, ya know ?

Thanks for your input.

Mon 22 Oct 2018 5:53 AM by JaggedOne

Kaziera wrote: ↑
Mon 22 Oct 2018 4:55 AM
26 sup for first pbt aoe snare nuke and blue ns. Rest into dark.

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So that's 47/26 instead of my 41/34. The only gain is the single DD goes from level 37 to level 47, a 27% increase in delved damage. Is that worth goiing from 8-second PBT to 10 and from 55% NS to 45%, and also dropping back a level in both the single and AoE Snare/DD ? Probably not for me, but again, situational/different strokes.

Thanks for your input !!!!

Mon 22 Oct 2018 8:05 AM by Kaziera

Yea of course. Any nearsight throws of enemy positioning. And some ppl dont purge blue nearsight, while yellow and red gets purged very fast if it cant be cured. In any way it occupies the enemy healer as well as the victim of the ns. And thats the primary goal of nearsight. Its a 2s cast that costs your enemy either a purge or about 10s of curing and repositioning. Plus lower mana cost for almost same effect.

In terms of snare nuke, its just having the snare nuke or not having it. Resists, yes but you will have them anyways no matter which level of nuke you have. Plus lower mana cost for almost same effect.

The yellow or red pbt is actualy a trap. In fight your mana regen is so low, the higher pbt makes you go oom in no time. And the effect of blue pbt is totaly fine. It stops that one slam or snare that breaks your game. But even red pbt cant stop a paintrain of 2 or 3 light tanks.

On the other hand, as rm you and your warrior are a Death trap for evry enemy light tank. If he only extends a little bit too much, with the red nuke and the self debuff for 10% you and your peeling warrior drop any light tank in seconds.

Mon 22 Oct 2018 8:43 AM by JaggedOne

Kaziera wrote: ↑
Mon 22 Oct 2018 8:05 AM
Yea of course. Any nearsight throws of enemy positioning. And some ppl dont purge blue nearsight, while yellow and red gets purged very fast if it cant be cured. In any way it occupies the enemy healer as well as the victim of the ns. And thats the primary goal of nearsight. Its a 2s cast that costs your enemy either a purge or about 10s of curing and repositioning. Plus lower mana cost for almost same effect.

In terms of snare nuke, its just having the snare nuke or not having it. Resists, yes but you will have them anyways no matter which level of nuke you have. Plus lower mana cost for almost same effect.

The yellow or red pbt is actualy a trap. In fight your mana regen is so low, the higher pbt makes you go oom in no time. And the effect of blue pbt is totaly fine. It stops that one slam or snare that breaks your game. But even red pbt cant stop a paintrain of 2 or 3 light tanks.

On the other hand, as rm you and your warrior are a Death trap for evry enemy light tank. If he only extends a little bit too much, with the red nuke and the self debuff for 10% you and your peeling warrior drop any light tank in seconds.

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I think I may give 47/26 a try....thanks !!!!!

Mon 22 Oct 2018 5:19 PM by poisonclover

47/26 gets you 10 sec pbt and still enough to cold debuff. Bolts,nearsite. best spec hands down imo especially now since there is a baseline RC nuke..

Mon 22 Oct 2018 8:05 PM by Dariussdars

Yeah, 47/26 dark/supp is probably the most well rounded spec. You get highest delve nuke, a good damage add, ns, and the pbt. Only thing you gain going higher than 47 dark is a higher debuff nuke and the ae which is very situational.