Forbid GVG - Stop making unnecessary changes

Forbid GVG
I am here for the RVR , helping realmmembers in fights. If you continue to allow people to retreat from a fight because they claim somewhat of doing 8v8 it's the same as forcing me to stop playing RVR and maybe phoenix at all!!

i've been bitching about this long enough now, but i am also clearly not the only one. Unfortunately i got a mute today for pointing out to a group that it wasn't fair or that anytime DaoC rvr has not been played like that.
it's your server tell me if you're also a fan of GVG, because than i am the last one suggesting this but the first one just leaving.

it's not like i am bitching about a dead or so. i am sick of this for more than 365 days now.
( you think you go help realmmates before a 2nd enemy group appear etc., than they turn away a leave you fighting a group with most CC imunities. best part if they run off, a 2nd group come and we are left to fight a 8vs16.)

you could give them a 4th realm flag. when they wanna do GVG i want to be able to kill these "realm-chars" first before i focus on mid or alb. you know there are like 400 realmmates doing RVR in a RVR zone, 300 trying to help eachother and 100 doing GVG. if you don't want to have adds you better go where nobody goes or deal with the add.
( you lame ass greedy rp *****)
you don't like it others appreciate it. specially those newcomers appreciate every help!!

i can't remember any guild or a PRESET that stopped a fight in RVR because someone added.

they do ? they call it pro ?? you know what, they are the lowest scum. with one word a TRAITOR.
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Unnecessary changed in my point of view
have you heard a bard asking for a root once ?? i didn't but for the pre 2.3k amnesia range with a cooldown on it.
actions like this is not a joke but harrassing for every hib player.

also unnecessary is giving a class with a speedhacking pet a buff on his lifeleech don't you think ?
well, i do.
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i am not inviting anyone to discuss here but the staff if they wish!!
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kind regards,

PS: I can't count the times i've beeing roaming arround as 8 and after finding a 8 man it doesnt take longer than 5 min to have an add turning it into 8vs 16 or worse vs 32.
so please, for the future of my healthy patience, stop them or make these GVG players killable for everyone. If they are half as pro as they claim, they can deal with that.

You know as well as I do that RVR was about beeing added. otherwhise they would have made 2 realms and not 3 Period

Thu 24 Dec 2020 7:41 AM by stripperrella

just another suggestion ( a little bit off topic )
PPS: how about a Serverside-Chatgroup that everyone joins automaticly and can use for public chat off/ontopic.
once they left they can rejoin anytime with the /cg who , /cg join command.

Forcing people the stay on topic in /lfg or /advice is as much work as telling people to behave friendly in chat. but i think with the creation of this chat, you would have less work.
i could be wrong, so maybe you can explain your reasons to me.

thanks in advance

Thu 24 Dec 2020 9:09 AM by

Uthred

Forbid GVG - No
Offtopic Chat - No

Thu 24 Dec 2020 11:04 AM by stripperrella

Uthred wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Dec 2020 9:09 AM
Forbid GVG - No
Offtopic Chat - No

Thu 24 Dec 2020 11:16 AM by Enyore

stripperrella wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Dec 2020 7:29 AM
Forbid GVG
I am here for the RVR , helping realmmembers in fights. If you continue to allow people to retreat from a fight because they claim somewhat of doing 8v8 it's the same as forcing me to stop playing RVR and maybe phoenix at all!!

i've been bitching about this long enough now, but i am also clearly not the only one. Unfortunately i got a mute today for pointing out to a group that it wasn't fair or that anytime DaoC rvr has not been played like that.
it's your server tell me if you're also a fan of GVG, because than i am the last one suggesting this but the first one just leaving.

it's not like i am bitching about a dead or so. i am sick of this for more than 365 days now.
( you think you go help realmmates before a 2nd enemy group appear etc., than they turn away a leave you fighting a group with most CC imunities. best part if they run off, a 2nd group come and we are left to fight a 8vs16.)

you could give them a 4th realm flag. when they wanna do GVG i want to be able to kill these "realm-chars" first before i focus on mid or alb. you know there are like 400 realmmates doing RVR in a RVR zone, 300 trying to help eachother and 100 doing GVG. if you don't want to have adds you better go where nobody goes or deal with the add.
( you lame ass greedy rp *****)
you don't like it others appreciate it. specially those newcomers appreciate every help!!

i can't remember any guild or a PRESET that stopped a fight in RVR because someone added.

they do ? they call it pro ?? you know what, they are the lowest scum. with one word a TRAITOR.
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Unnecessary changed in my point of view
have you heard a bard asking for a root once ?? i didn't but for the pre 2.3k amnesia range with a cooldown on it.
actions like this is not a joke but harrassing for every hib player.

also unnecessary is giving a class with a speedhacking pet a buff on his lifeleech don't you think ?
well, i do.
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i am not inviting anyone to discuss here but the staff if they wish!!
------------------
kind regards,

PS: I can't count the times i've beeing roaming arround as 8 and after finding a 8 man it doesnt take longer than 5 min to have an add turning it into 8vs 16 or worse vs 32.
so please, for the future of my healthy patience, stop them or make these GVG players killable for everyone. If they are half as pro as they claim, they can deal with that.

You know as well as I do that RVR was about beeing added. otherwhise they would have made 2 realms and not 3 Period

Worst part about it when they pull off is that you feel a little filthy and abused afterwards when you have died to the group you tried to add.....

But you know what.... Take a look at the GvG list, then you will know what groups to leave alone unless you just crave the filthy experience.... then you will also know where to find it

Cheer up buddy - otherwise there is always the zerg.

Thu 24 Dec 2020 11:32 AM by Astaa

But why tho.

Thu 24 Dec 2020 2:42 PM by stripperrella

Uthred wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Dec 2020 9:09 AM
Forbid GVG - No
Offtopic Chat - No

actually this answer is not worse at all. I mean they still could be discussing about the 4th realm (pvp) flag to who does GVG.

aswell as ontopic chat.. who knows..

actually i swear to myself today and told it to all people who used to play with me. i wont play any event, rvr small, rvr 8 or task. now i am only doing pve or BG.
once they added a pvp flag to GVG players, you can eat a broom i will check the list and make a hunt on them. specially on those of my realm.

looking forward, just trying to improve the community. specialy as a european Beta player i still play Daoc with realm pride. it's a war game, nobody would stop fighting in a war because someone added them for a help..
they can ofc be pissed about adder and are rightfully when they say please dont add in future etc.. but this is pur RP greed. specially when you see them mostly 8vs5 all night/morning. ( simply because no one can beat a rr11 preset group as a random or preset rr3 )
it's ok to have this rr advantage but only if RvR..
Ex: they kill half this rr3, get added and still managed to kill the other half. that's skill if you ask me. nothing else! imagine when half your grp is wiped to the 2nd group and than a hib group comes to a help. man that's daoc. that's the feeling why i am still playing actually.

kind regards,

Sat 26 Dec 2020 3:35 PM by Sagz

I agree the GvG list has lost its meaning at least from what I see in NA, I don't really play EU times so not sure of the usage.

The GvG list now, mainly because of the tasks is not used to find clean fights, it is an excuse to jam a somewhat fair fight and to "shield" your group from getting jammed by the good groups. I am pretty sure that is not what it was intended for. Now I may be wrong but before the task changes to the "Capture the Flag" areas, the Task were around keeps, so people used the GvG list to fight on other zones and knew where the other 8 man groups were to try to get a clean fight and the extra RPs along with it. Well, Since everyone now runs in the task zone around flag, the clean fight aspect is all but gone, it is very rare you would find a fight, in a task zone without an archer add, small man add, 8 man pug group add, or even a 2-3 group zerg, yea, that's a thing now, they task, thus defeating the purpose of "finding" another group to clean fight.

I know this has been suggested multiple times and I think it is time to change the GvG list a bit.

Suggestion: get rid of the flag task in EV, and use EV to promote the GvG list as a fighting area. Can only use the GvG list on the Island, and only claim clean fights there. This could promote other groups (listed or not) to go there and fight, maybe the ones that don't list, would now list. This will allow quick ports back, quick fights, etc. Lets be honest, if there was no task in EV, no one would go, except the 8mans who want fair fights anyway, I remember back in the day that's what it was, you fought everyone, everywhere with no rules, and used Agramon Isand to go 8v8 in a fair fight with no adds, that was the norm for Years.

Most of the players (that I know) including myself respect players, not because they put your name on a "list". There are SOOOO many groups that "list" now, that until they hit RR8 or so jammed every fight and are now claiming that deserve respect because they put their name on a "list", which is a reason why some groups don't list, for instance the group I am in, we don't add groups with players we respect, but it is getting hard when they circle the fight a few times then claim someone is not on list and add what they know is a clean fight. And not to mention, mostly it is the same groups that jammed until RR8 anyway, and they only hit when a group is fighting someone in their realm, you don't see them adding when it can become a 3 way fight, that would just be too dangerous for them I guess.

I mean what is the point of having a list, if you can't claim 90% of your clean fights cause everyone is in the task zone getting an add here and there anyway. I even lost RPS on a toon because I guess there was an add, which no one saw, 50% of the time it is an archer on the other side of the fight hitting someones support or hell, even hitting your group and you still won, and now you still cant claim, and a lot of times you do not know when they add came in (if no one yells) to decide if you killed enough to claim a fight, and both groups claim because they thought it was fair enough. In reality, the archer did not cause a group to lose, they were were losing anyway, maybe 5-6 archers or a small man or another full group, but not 1 person.

In short for the ones who don't want to read my whole boring rant.

Remove task from EV, make EV the only spot you can GvG list and claim clean fights, everywhere else is fair game. People will still respect players, that's a given, and eventually move them selves to the island to fight, and if people add on the Island, so be it, cant claim, but it would lower the percentages, well except for the bar codes haha.

Sat 26 Dec 2020 3:46 PM by Sagz

Enyore wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Dec 2020 11:16 AM
stripperrella wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Dec 2020 7:29 AM
Forbid GVG
I am here for the RVR , helping realmmembers in fights. If you continue to allow people to retreat from a fight because they claim somewhat of doing 8v8 it's the same as forcing me to stop playing RVR and maybe phoenix at all!!

i've been bitching about this long enough now, but i am also clearly not the only one. Unfortunately i got a mute today for pointing out to a group that it wasn't fair or that anytime DaoC rvr has not been played like that.
it's your server tell me if you're also a fan of GVG, because than i am the last one suggesting this but the first one just leaving.

it's not like i am bitching about a dead or so. i am sick of this for more than 365 days now.
( you think you go help realmmates before a 2nd enemy group appear etc., than they turn away a leave you fighting a group with most CC imunities. best part if they run off, a 2nd group come and we are left to fight a 8vs16.)

you could give them a 4th realm flag. when they wanna do GVG i want to be able to kill these "realm-chars" first before i focus on mid or alb. you know there are like 400 realmmates doing RVR in a RVR zone, 300 trying to help eachother and 100 doing GVG. if you don't want to have adds you better go where nobody goes or deal with the add.
( you lame ass greedy rp *****)
you don't like it others appreciate it. specially those newcomers appreciate every help!!

i can't remember any guild or a PRESET that stopped a fight in RVR because someone added.

they do ? they call it pro ?? you know what, they are the lowest scum. with one word a TRAITOR.
------------------
Unnecessary changed in my point of view
have you heard a bard asking for a root once ?? i didn't but for the pre 2.3k amnesia range with a cooldown on it.
actions like this is not a joke but harrassing for every hib player.

also unnecessary is giving a class with a speedhacking pet a buff on his lifeleech don't you think ?
well, i do.
------------------

i am not inviting anyone to discuss here but the staff if they wish!!
------------------
kind regards,

PS: I can't count the times i've beeing roaming arround as 8 and after finding a 8 man it doesnt take longer than 5 min to have an add turning it into 8vs 16 or worse vs 32.
so please, for the future of my healthy patience, stop them or make these GVG players killable for everyone. If they are half as pro as they claim, they can deal with that.

You know as well as I do that RVR was about beeing added. otherwhise they would have made 2 realms and not 3 Period

Worst part about it when they pull off is that you feel a little filthy and abused afterwards when you have died to the group you tried to add.....

But you know what.... Take a look at the GvG list, then you will know what groups to leave alone unless you just crave the filthy experience.... then you will also know where to find it

Cheer up buddy - otherwise there is always the zerg.

I remember this fight, they added our fight, we had the savage snared out, the warrior snared out, SM mezzed and being left behind and healers interrupted, and then they came flying in, we pulled off, and they got steamrolled by them without even killing a single person. They broke the first rules of adding on a fair fight, don't lose. If your group cannot win in that scenario, there are other problems than making the GvG list players killable as you say.

Sat 26 Dec 2020 4:01 PM by Enyore

Sagz wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 3:35 PM
I agree the GvG list has lost its meaning at least from what I see in NA, I don't really play EU times so not sure of the usage.

The GvG list now, mainly because of the tasks is not used to find clean fights, it is an excuse to jam a somewhat fair fight and to "shield" your group from getting jammed by the good groups. I am pretty sure that is not what it was intended for. Now I may be wrong but before the task changes to the "Capture the Flag" areas, the Task were around keeps, so people used the GvG list to fight on other zones and knew where the other 8 man groups were to try to get a clean fight and the extra RPs along with it. Well, Since everyone now runs in the task zone around flag, the clean fight aspect is all but gone, it is very rare you would find a fight, in a task zone without an archer add, small man add, 8 man pug group add, or even a 2-3 group zerg, yea, that's a thing now, they task, thus defeating the purpose of "finding" another group to clean fight.

Good to see a reasonable argument about this subject for once....

This thread started out with the usual endless crying about groups pulling off when you jam them and they turn to kill you..... If you run out with 8, then expect others will too and be prepared to fight as 8, otherwise run out with more.....
Its quite pathetic if you run out with 8 only focused on jamming whatever you can find and actually crying about getting a fight with equal numbers on your hands.... that's how this post started out.

When that is said - you do in fact have a valid point here... the list has indeed become a shield while making mayhem in the task zone. I agree with this part of your post and I too doubt very much that this was ever the intention from the devs.
Removing the GvG list will not fix this problem though as the author of the thread suggested - you will still get the groups yelling and pulling off even in the task zone and that is not likely to change.
However you suggestion to somehow push away the GvG fights from the task zone would make sense, at least in prime-time as it would move some of these groups to other zones for some of the time and thus the shield effect will be gone, at least to some extend.

Sat 26 Dec 2020 5:41 PM by Wakefield

Just move the gvg groups into the pvp zone.

It's still there. It even says how many people are in there at a given time.

They can farm each other all day long and not get added on as it's a dedicated zone for them.

Unless the gvg want to get added on or play the 8vs1 game.

Sat 26 Dec 2020 6:00 PM by ExcretusMaximus

Wakefield wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 5:41 PM
Unless the gvg want to get added on

They clearly don't, since they've invented this false "honor code" bullshit where they pull off and laugh at anyone who would dare interrupt their sacred clean fight.

Sat 26 Dec 2020 6:15 PM by Sagz

ExcretusMaximus wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 6:00 PM
Wakefield wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 5:41 PM
Unless the gvg want to get added on

They clearly don't, since they've invented this false "honor code" bullshit where they pull off and laugh at anyone who would dare interrupt their sacred clean fight.

Not really a false code, just the list is false, people have always respected other people, that is true with solos and small mans, you know who adds and who doesn't. That will never stop. I do not think putting them in a separate instanced zone is the answer, give them the opportunity to do both. No one goes to EV unless task, remove task and the GvG listers will go there and bother no one, and if they are not there they wont pull off and the game can be played as it was intended in the mainlands. And if you want to go to the island and zerg them down, that's fair game too, who cares. Its really a win win.

Sat 26 Dec 2020 7:30 PM by Sepplord

Sagz wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 6:15 PM
No one goes to EV unless task, remove task and the GvG listers will go there and bother no one, and if they are not there they wont pull off and the game can be played as it was intended in the mainlands. And if you want to go to the island and zerg them down, that's fair game too, who cares. Its really a win win.

If only it would work that way....
Sadly they Just wouldn't go there. They can already go there yet are seen in the taskzone or around DC/beno/Bled instead of away from the high population zergzone.

Truth is, they LOVE farming weaklings because it makes them feel strong. I guess most of us can understand it. A few at least admit that (and a few really only want good 8vs8 too) but the majority just want high RP/h and everything else is secondary.
And to that it is incredibly lucrative to be farming the Taskzone while being protected from getting added by any of the other "top dogs".

Sat 26 Dec 2020 10:02 PM by Sagz

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 7:30 PM
Sagz wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 6:15 PM
No one goes to EV unless task, remove task and the GvG listers will go there and bother no one, and if they are not there they wont pull off and the game can be played as it was intended in the mainlands. And if you want to go to the island and zerg them down, that's fair game too, who cares. Its really a win win.

If only it would work that way....
Sadly they Just wouldn't go there. They can already go there yet are seen in the taskzone or around DC/beno/Bled instead of away from the high population zergzone.

Truth is, they LOVE farming weaklings because it makes them feel strong. I guess most of us can understand it. A few at least admit that (and a few really only want good 8vs8 too) but the majority just want high RP/h and everything else is secondary.
And to that it is incredibly lucrative to be farming the Taskzone while being protected from getting added by any of the other "top dogs".

You are right, somewhat, they only go to the task zone for credit then roll to EV if there is enough groups out, at least some of the GvG lists do, sometimes, I was hoping this would create steady action there and solve that problem. Right now no one really "knows" to go there regularly. I think if the change was made, it would be more accepted as the norm. Again, just my opinion.

Sun 27 Dec 2020 9:37 AM by Centenario

8v8 in DAoC isn’t the gvg list...

The easiest way to get RPs now is doing gvg
Any group at whatever skill level can get started there and will be high RR even when losing every single fight until they meet newcomers who are lower RR than them and as bad.

It’s kinda like power level your reroll to 8L before going to fight in the real battlefield.

They should just move to an arena. Like we had in the pvp event.
I also hate when you don’t realize it’s a gvg fight and you get killed because your realm mates break cc or give cc immunities and disengage.
Nobody knows their guild or chars except themselves.
Most of the real 8v8 groups on the server just don’t respect the gvg plebs.

Sun 27 Dec 2020 11:21 AM by Sepplord

Sagz wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 10:02 PM
Right now no one really "knows" to go there regularly. I think if the change was made, it would be more accepted as the norm. Again, just my opinion.

It's Hilarius how much These groups don't know and all the Things they are unable to do because of "reasons". While at the same time claiming to be better Players and Humans than the Rest of the Playerbase

Yeah, it's really really hard to know when to go there because the task is somewhere else for over 2hours.

One group always has to be the first one to go to an empty Zone. That's fact. One has to be the starter and go somewhere and wait for other groups to follows. And If good Fights without adds were the main goal then a group would do it.
As long as RP/H are a bigger priority a group will not do the first step that is necessary for addless 8vs8 Fights

Sun 27 Dec 2020 2:08 PM by Sagz

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Sun 27 Dec 2020 11:21 AM
Sagz wrote: ↑
Sat 26 Dec 2020 10:02 PM
Right now no one really "knows" to go there regularly. I think if the change was made, it would be more accepted as the norm. Again, just my opinion.

It's Hilarius how much These groups don't know and all the Things they are unable to do because of "reasons". While at the same time claiming to be better Players and Humans than the Rest of the Playerbase
Yeah, it's really really hard to know when to go there because the task is somewhere else for over 2hours.

One group always has to be the first one to go to an empty Zone. That's fact. One has to be the starter and go somewhere and wait for other groups to follows. And If good Fights without adds were the main goal then a group would do it.
As long as RP/H are a bigger priority a group will not do the first step that is necessary for addless 8vs8 Fights

You are right. I have said that for years, I mean, there was no GvG on live, but somehow we always knew where we could go or knew how to meet up with someones group to have a fair fight. They lack that knowledge here, so lets dumb it down for them. If a group wants to GvG, they control the fight location , I am pretty sure somewhere in Mount Callory, you know, where no one is ever, is a good place to meet up? Use the GvG list and go there, but they are either too dumb, or too lazy.

I said multiple times to mostly every group at one point or another to Use EV as the spot to go when the task is not there, then when the task is there use Alb Maze. But no one does it.

Bottom line, in my solution, they would not be able to "list" or GvG clean fight outside the island, thus having to choose, and hopefully result is more groups going there and less whining.

Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:01 AM by Lillebror

Gvg only active on Island was an good idea. If You want the clean extra rps you gotta go there.

Make a sone for solo, small man too and a good chump of clean rp bonus

Ppl Get frustrated when ppl earn more rps fighting doors for there realm than 8maning. Does it matter? If You go Island You Get to play like You want. Thing is, in the end its seems like all that matters are rps/hour. If You solo, small man or zerg.

While at it: make a bounty system so ppl can donate gold for killing gankers.

Mon 28 Dec 2020 5:29 PM by stripperrella

Lillebror wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:01 AM
Gvg only active on Island was an good idea. If You want the clean extra rps you gotta go there.

Make a sone for solo, small man too and a good chump of clean rp bonus

Ppl Get frustrated when ppl earn more rps fighting doors for there realm than 8maning. Does it matter? If You go Island You Get to play like You want. Thing is, in the end its seems like all that matters are rps/hour. If You solo, small man or zerg.

While at it: make a bounty system so ppl can donate gold for killing gankers.

I don't know what you are talking about. A few month ago i had over 80 kills per death in a BG on a regular basis. Your claim hitting keep doors only, is nosense and a lie

Mon 28 Dec 2020 11:26 PM by Sagz

stripperrella wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Dec 2020 5:29 PM
Lillebror wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:01 AM
Gvg only active on Island was an good idea. If You want the clean extra rps you gotta go there.

Make a sone for solo, small man too and a good chump of clean rp bonus

Ppl Get frustrated when ppl earn more rps fighting doors for there realm than 8maning. Does it matter? If You go Island You Get to play like You want. Thing is, in the end its seems like all that matters are rps/hour. If You solo, small man or zerg.

While at it: make a bounty system so ppl can donate gold for killing gankers.

I don't know what you are talking about. A few month ago i had over 80 kills per death in a BG on a regular basis. Your claim hitting keep doors only, is nosense and a lie

Umm just because those keeps are not empty doesn't mean you are not still PvDooring most of it. I would love to know what your RPS per kill were. Killing 80 people per death is not hard when you are rolling 75+ vs 40, all you have to do is tag everyone with an aoe dot once and its 40 kills. so in 2 keep takes and you die once you got 80 kills per death, but 90% of your RPs are from the keep take, thus PvDoor.

Mon 28 Dec 2020 11:34 PM by Sagz

Centenario wrote: ↑
Sun 27 Dec 2020 9:37 AM
8v8 in DAoC isn’t the gvg list...

The easiest way to get RPs now is doing gvg
Any group at whatever skill level can get started there and will be high RR even when losing every single fight until they meet newcomers who are lower RR than them and as bad.

It’s kinda like power level your reroll to 8L before going to fight in the real battlefield.

They should just move to an arena. Like we had in the pvp event.
I also hate when you don’t realize it’s a gvg fight and you get killed because your realm mates break cc or give cc immunities and disengage.
Nobody knows their guild or chars except themselves.
Most of the real 8v8 groups on the server just don’t respect the gvg plebs.

I agree 8v8 is not the GvG. Not even sure why we have it, you can see kill spam from every realm so you know where people are, so its not like you need the location, which is more than you had on live, you only saw your realm, but we managed to always find each other and find spots to fight without adds, not sure why it is so hard here and you need a "list".

As far as an RP PL, so let me get this straight, you think the 1k rps per fight you get is an RP PL? when you roll out, GvG list against the rr10+ groups (who by the way did not list until rr8, jammed everything during that time, and do not list on their RR3-4 rerolls) and you get rolled with your RR2 group 10 times killing no one, you get 10k RPs, so, unless you are running task while you are doing it, which in that case you will not get a clean fight 1k rps cause there are adds all over the place, and not to mention run the risk of losing 10k rps for claiming a non clean fight, now bringing you back to 0, why would listing be a RP PL to 8L?

You would get to RR8 faster by taking keeps and towers and rocking out 20K an hour while watching tv and half asleep haha, personally that is WAY too boring for me, but people do it haha

Tue 29 Dec 2020 2:06 AM by stripperrella

Sagz wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Dec 2020 11:34 PM
You would get to RR8 faster by taking keeps and towers and rocking out 20K an hour while watching tv and half asleep haha, personally that is WAY too boring for me, but people do it haha

complete BS... and just so you know i hate people like them who join BG / keep fights and do what they do. Go afk, half sleep etc. go to PVE or shut the game off. they are killing RVR BG.. and than You read people say pilzpower is bad when clearly players like they are!

Sagz wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Dec 2020 11:26 PM
Umm just because those keeps are not empty doesn't mean you are not still PvDooring most of it. I would love to know what your RPS per kill were. Killing 80 people per death is not hard when you are rolling 75+ vs 40, all you have to do is tag everyone with an aoe dot once and its 40 kills. so in 2 keep takes and you die once you got 80 kills per death, but 90% of your RPs are from the keep take, thus PvDoor.

PVdoor..you doesn't have a tiny clue. fighting vs 8 or vs 80 what takes more skill.. Don't guess, everybody knows the answer.
But to answer your Question, RP per Kill depend on people adding. I once managed to hide myself as druid on outter oil for heals.. when hib BG nearly died and my group were in the town already, a mid bg came to rush in after us. guess how much rps i got from the oil kill, besides all the solo kills on my druid.

lead a 8manGRP or a 100 manGRP, tell me what is easier and takes way more skill.. not just skill about the game btw but also leadership skills!!

Sincerly i am not wasting more of my precious time discussing no sense of this kind with you. You clearly deserve no ones attention.
But thanks to state it here, now i don't feel bad anymore for all those who joined my group and got kicked out for AFK.

good night