Ellyl Sage - Phoenix Freeshard

nuke or heal. not both.

any minstrel not taking this pet, you're doing it wrong.

Sun 8 Nov 2020 4:26 PM by Lerox

oldmanukko wrote: ↑
Sun 8 Nov 2020 3:23 PM
nuke or heal. not both.

any minstrel not taking this pet, you're doing it wrong.

Seems like I am doing something wrong then.

It is a strong pet but it has his advantages and disadvantages for example the minstrel is much more vulnerable for cc.

Mon 9 Nov 2020 8:22 AM by Sepplord

could you elaborate?

how does the sage make him more vulnerable to CC compared to another pet?

Mon 9 Nov 2020 1:52 PM by gotwqqd

There is also as limited number of these available at a given time

Mon 9 Nov 2020 3:12 PM by keen

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Nov 2020 8:22 AM
could you elaborate?

how does the sage make him more vulnerable to CC compared to another pet?

takes time for the ellyl to cast its spell. a melee pet will hit u instantly. it might stay away further from u since it is a cast pet if u send it somewhere, so the chances that it is out of ur 700range is also higher.

Mon 9 Nov 2020 3:42 PM by Sepplord

keen wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Nov 2020 3:12 PM
takes time for the ellyl to cast its spell. a melee pet will hit u instantly. it might stay away further from u since it is a cast pet if u send it somewhere, so the chances that it is out of ur 700range is also higher.

ohh...that's how you meant it. Thanks for the explanation.
To be honest though, that's quite far fetched, and could go either way.
It could very well stay within 700units of your range, instead of having to run out of range to keep hitting its target, like a melee pet would have to do.
And a melee pet only instantly hits you when it is close by, otherwise it has to run towards you (which is also much more obvious than the pet casting from somewhere).

Mon 9 Nov 2020 4:09 PM by keen

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Nov 2020 3:42 PM
keen wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Nov 2020 3:12 PM
takes time for the ellyl to cast its spell. a melee pet will hit u instantly. it might stay away further from u since it is a cast pet if u send it somewhere, so the chances that it is out of ur 700range is also higher.

ohh...that's how you meant it. Thanks for the explanation.
To be honest though, that's quite far fetched, and could go either way.
It could very well stay within 700units of your range, instead of having to run out of range to keep hitting its target, like a melee pet would have to do.
And a melee pet only instantly hits you when it is close by, otherwise it has to run towards you (which is also much more obvious than the pet casting from somewhere).

well for me thats not far fetched but just how it is with the ellyl pet. you can also not deroot ur grp mates with it as easily due to its casts, so ellyl is a solo/small men pet due to its limitations.

Mon 9 Nov 2020 7:04 PM by Nephamael

Eyll Sage is the best (oj) solo minst pet by far, but for 8v8 there is better options as explained above. However minstrel is a character impossible to balance for 1v1. While we had some very nice tweaks already simply reducing the heal power of the pet for a solo/smallman minst would help 1v1s,/ smalls but it's already a rarity to see solos anyway. And ofc most classes have counterplay. (Best way to do it with most classes is to kill the pet first or cc it)

Mon 9 Nov 2020 8:49 PM by Kappu

They also tweaked the way Minstrels control their pets in a past patch so that it's not as easy for them to keep themselves and the pet from being immune to CC.

The Ellyl Sage also must be controlled you can't just run around it doesn't decide when to heal and nuke the Minstrel is forced into an entire subset of controls when 1v1ing or for that matter playing in general if they want to excel. They have to issue stay and attack commands all while also casting their other spells and fighting.

Mon 9 Nov 2020 10:50 PM by ExcretusMaximus

Kappu wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Nov 2020 8:49 PM
it doesn't decide when to heal and nuke

Sure it does, anytime the controlling character or the sage itself drops below 50% it heals, prioritizing itself, just like every healing pet.

Thu 12 Nov 2020 9:04 PM by teiloh

oldmanukko wrote: ↑
Sun 8 Nov 2020 3:23 PM
nuke or heal. not both.

any minstrel not taking this pet, you're doing it wrong.

It literally nukes for 70-90 every 3 seconds after the initial bolt.

stop crying.

Thu 12 Nov 2020 11:12 PM by Nando

and its faster dead than u can look - typical hib crying here as we know it

Fri 13 Nov 2020 7:29 AM by Sepplord

Nando wrote: ↑
Thu 12 Nov 2020 11:12 PM
and its faster dead than u can look - typical hib crying here as we know it

compared to many other pets, it is one of the sturdier ones