Reflex attack - Phoenix Freeshard

I know it was already nerfed, but losing 40/45% of your life vs someone afk is kind of ridiculous.
I think it's still possible to tone it down a bit.
You can often kill people 1vs2 1vs3 because of that...

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:21 AM by thirian24

No

Stop crying for other peoples shit to get nerfed

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:25 AM by protege

As if solo visibles don't have a hard enough time

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:33 AM by Noashakra

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:21 AM
No

Stop crying for other peoples shit to get nerfed

It's only funny for the people who has the RA, because the one on the otherside has 100% chances to die.
Merc/BM/Friar are already 1vs1 beasts...

protege wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:25 AM
As if solo visibles don't have a hard enough time

And maybe I would try to fight them 1vs1 instead of avoiding them like the plague... And they will find more duels instead of waiting for a 3vs1?

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:44 AM by thirian24

Just b/c YOU have a hard time with it, isnt reason enough for it to be nerfed.

There is a hard counter to it.

Seriously, people need to stop this nonsense of coming to the forums crying for nerfs.

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:46 AM by thirian24

protege wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:25 AM
As if solo visibles don't have a hard enough time

I know right?

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:48 AM by Noashakra

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:44 AM
Just b/c YOU have a hard time with it, isnt reason enough for it to be nerfed.

There is a hard counter to it.

Seriously, people need to stop this nonsense of coming to the forums crying for nerfs.

The only hard counter for a melee is to stop hitting or be a mage...
This RA is not balanced and it should be called out.
And if something is unbalance, people have a right to ask for it to be toned down.

hitting someone AFK and finishing at 60% life is NOT balanced.

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:54 AM by thirian24

Yeah its such an issue. Since there are 284726 Mercs running around with high RFA that its causing such an issue. Right?

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:56 AM by Noashakra

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:54 AM
Yeah its such an issue. Since there are 284726 Mercs running around with high RFA that its causing such an issue. Right?

So if only person would be playing a class with a I win key, it would be a non issue?
What an asinine argument.

Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:58 AM by thirian24

No im saying, its not the issue youre making it out to be. Stop crying and move on. simple

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:00 AM by Noashakra

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:58 AM
No im saying, its not the issue youre making it out to be. Stop crying and move on. simple

I could say the same each time you complained about the solo zone being gone, and I didn't.
It's just an issue, just one YOU don't care about.

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:03 AM by thirian24

The difference is, the forum was/is FULL of people crying about the issues with solo action. SO.. read into that what you will.

EDIT - To add to that, thats not me wanting another class nerfed into the ground. Thats asking for some love for an entire community.. are you too dense to see the difference there?

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:04 AM by Noashakra

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:03 AM
The difference is, the forum was/is FULL of people crying about the issues with solo action. SO.. read into that what you will.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

and it was not full, maybe 10 people cried about the SOLO ZONE (not the solo action, it's two different issues)... over a population of thousands of players...

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:12 AM by inoeth

personally i just avoid ppl with reflex attack because its a sure death sentence to attack them and i dont get why this ra exist at all tbh

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:13 AM by thirian24

Im not going to continue to argue with you. I know, youre always correct.

INC RFA nerf cause Noashakra said so.

You want DT nerf too?

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:14 AM by Noashakra

inoeth wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:12 AM
personally i just avoid ppl with reflex attack because its a sure death sentence to attack them and i dont get why this ra exist at all tbh

you already know the hard counter

You want DT nerf too?

Yes but it will never happen so I don't waste my energy on that (I would nerf the timer, or make it purgeable).

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:18 AM by thirian24

Ok, nerf DT too.

What else can we take away from the merc, who has barely anything to begin with.

Dual Shadows bleed? Is that next?

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:20 AM by Noashakra

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:18 AM
Ok, nerf DT too.

What else can we take away from the merc, who has barely anything to begin with.

Dual Shadows bleed? Is that next?

you do know that you can take things away and give some too?
It's called balance.

The merc needs utility to 8vs8, in 1vs1, it's almost as OP as champ...

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:21 AM by thirian24

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:20 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:18 AM
Ok, nerf DT too.

What else can we take away from the merc, who has barely anything to begin with.

Dual Shadows bleed? Is that next?

you do know that you can take things away and give some too?
It's called balance.

Do you realize what DT is used for?

EDIT - Like in an actual grp setting. Since this game is based around an 8man grp setting.

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:48 AM by inoeth

sounds like hhwwaat fears his bm to be nerfed ahhhhhh xD

seriously do you have any argument for RFA not to be nerfed besides "dont cry for nerf"?

Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:48 AM by Noashakra

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:21 AM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:20 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:18 AM
Ok, nerf DT too.

What else can we take away from the merc, who has barely anything to begin with.

Dual Shadows bleed? Is that next?

you do know that you can take things away and give some too?
It's called balance.

Do you realize what DT is used for?

EDIT - Like in an actual grp setting. Since this game is based around an 8man grp setting.

I do and I have ideas about how to make the ability more group friendly (might be good, might be bad, I don't claim to have absolute knowledge).
Anyway like I said, it'll not change, so I am not here to discuss that.
I am here to discuss a pure 1vs1 RA, accessible on the 3 realms, that is unbalanced.

Sun 13 Sep 2020 9:11 AM by caelio

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:48 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:21 AM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:20 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:18 AM
Ok, nerf DT too.

What else can we take away from the merc, who has barely anything to begin with.

Dual Shadows bleed? Is that next?

you do know that you can take things away and give some too?
It's called balance.

Do you realize what DT is used for?

EDIT - Like in an actual grp setting. Since this game is based around an 8man grp setting.

I do and I have ideas about how to make the ability more group friendly (might be good, might be bad, I don't claim to have absolute knowledge).
Anyway like I said, it'll not change, so I am not here to discuss that.
I am here to discuss a pure 1vs1 RA, accessible on the 3 realms, that is unbalanced.

ouinnnn ouinnnnn ouinnnnn

Sun 13 Sep 2020 9:27 AM by Noashakra

caelio wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 9:11 AM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:48 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:21 AM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:20 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 8:18 AM
Ok, nerf DT too.

What else can we take away from the merc, who has barely anything to begin with.

Dual Shadows bleed? Is that next?

you do know that you can take things away and give some too?
It's called balance.

Do you realize what DT is used for?

EDIT - Like in an actual grp setting. Since this game is based around an 8man grp setting.

I do and I have ideas about how to make the ability more group friendly (might be good, might be bad, I don't claim to have absolute knowledge).
Anyway like I said, it'll not change, so I am not here to discuss that.
I am here to discuss a pure 1vs1 RA, accessible on the 3 realms, that is unbalanced.

ouinnnn ouinnnnn ouinnnnn

It's it trash collection day?
Still waiting to have your SB name to have a good laugh about who you are dude. Still crying about how NS is OP?

Sun 13 Sep 2020 9:45 AM by Cadebrennus

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:44 AM
Just b/c YOU have a hard time with it, isnt reason enough for it to be nerfed.

There is a hard counter to it.

Seriously, people need to stop this nonsense of coming to the forums crying for nerfs.

Yes! Absolutely! People need to learn how to play with the tools they already have. It's amazing how many people don't know, or won't learn

Sun 13 Sep 2020 10:17 AM by Noashakra

Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 9:45 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 13 Sep 2020 7:44 AM
Just b/c YOU have a hard time with it, isnt reason enough for it to be nerfed.

There is a hard counter to it.

Seriously, people need to stop this nonsense of coming to the forums crying for nerfs.

Yes! Absolutely! People need to learn how to play with the tools they already have. It's amazing how many people don't know, or won't learn

:'D