GvG 10k RP reduction - Phoenix Freeshard

Hi,
The implementation seems to be fully automatic to detect which fight is regarding the rules and which one isn't.
What about automatically reject falls fights if it does not qualify for fair fight GvG.
Less effort and less tears for everyone I would say.

Thu 10 Sep 2020 6:46 PM by chewchew

sounds like a suggestion a crimanal who just got striked would make

Thu 10 Sep 2020 7:08 PM by

Uthred

It is not done automatically. We look it up each day on our own and check the logs.

Thu 10 Sep 2020 7:43 PM by Ceen

Its not rocket science that this system will be abused by people who are mad at the 8vs8 players.
You will rework it sooner or later anyways. Else you need to also check the logs for on purpose hidden adds as well.
Aje have fun its not working and I'm not effected - yet

Fri 11 Sep 2020 6:10 AM by Sepplord

Ceen wrote: ↑
Thu 10 Sep 2020 7:43 PM
Its not rocket science that this system will be abused by people who are mad at the 8vs8 players.
You will rework it sooner or later anyways. Else you need to also check the logs for on purpose hidden adds as well.
Aje have fun its not working and I'm not effected - yet

how would they abuse it?

The only way i could imagine is that those haters form a 8man, list for GvG, fight VS an enemy Group and coordinate with a person from the third realm to be attacked without the enemy group noticing...
Seems pretty far fetched to me

Fri 11 Sep 2020 6:50 AM by

Uthred

You wouldnt believe what players are willing to do to kill other players fun.

Fri 11 Sep 2020 9:21 AM by keen

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 11 Sep 2020 6:10 AM
how would they abuse it?

The only way i could imagine is that those haters form a 8man, list for GvG, fight VS an enemy Group and coordinate with a person from the third realm to be attacked without the enemy group noticing...
Seems pretty far fetched to me

You don't always recognize adds and I would say it can be abused without knowing all the details that go into their check. rapid fire some arrows into the fight on a target that gets hit anyway. this will be very hard to judge if that's 10k deduction. If that spreads I don't see how the GvG should be feasible for the time being.
My suggestion to improve the current system would be to automatize the detection and reject right away if that is somehow possible. If this is checked by hand this is very time consuming anyway.
Then it's like a bonus for grps being able to find fights without adds that is well in line with the intention of the bonus. Most likely this will not happen in eg the task zone. the system right now turns something good into some kind of punishment in my opinion.

Fri 11 Sep 2020 9:46 AM by Sepplord

yeah good points, from both of you

*as sad as that is*

Fri 11 Sep 2020 10:15 AM by

Uthred

We reviewed more than 300 fights and found 4 wrong claims. So please, stop the panic and stop telling, that the gvg command cant be used anymore. The gvg-world is not going to end. It is still doable. Believe me.

Sat 12 Sep 2020 1:52 AM by Nephamael

We reviewed more than 300 fights and found 4 wrong claims.

so 1.3% wrong claims, which still include accidental wrong claims, so the abuse ammount must be far below 1% - the perfect proof, we don't need any (automatic) punishment vs /gvg groups unless someone reports something suspicious and it proves right.