Struggling to understand what Albion just did...

Started 24 Aug 2020
by Astaa
in RvR
130+ Albs (last tower count) just attacked Nged, with their relic inside, vs about 60-70 defenders, Pilz had (for whatever reason) split the defence to (and I quote) check Crau towers. Rams up, outer losing HP fast. Then all of a sudden Alb pulls off and vanishes.

Seriously, wtf? What just happened? It looked to be one of the easiest relic takes ever and you bottle it?
Tue 25 Aug 2020 2:54 AM by boridi
Maybe a scheduled Sidi raid!
Tue 25 Aug 2020 3:35 AM by Horus
We had about 4 rangers in Nged. Maybe you haven't heard, but Rangers are OPed and few with volley can easily repel a zerg of 130.
Tue 25 Aug 2020 3:38 AM by ExcretusMaximus
According to my GM, who was in the zone at the time, there was a lot of dying Alb spam; my guess is you missed it due to being in a fight yourself.
Tue 25 Aug 2020 6:29 AM by Neso
Horus wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 3:35 AM
We had about 4 rangers in Nged. Maybe you haven't heard, but Rangers are OPed and few with volley can easily repel a zerg of 130.

Our trio were there, definately more than 4 though.
Tue 25 Aug 2020 7:08 AM by Centenario
GTAoE spam
Shrooms
Feeding + Rezzing gameplay
It was already 11pm
It felt more like 120 hibs vs 60 albs like every night

I personally have seen better gameplay than just spam rez - wait for mana - rez - MCL + Pot + Chunk, rince and repeat.
Tue 25 Aug 2020 9:00 AM by Kevan89
Centenario wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 7:08 AM
GTAoE spam
Shrooms
Feeding + Rezzing gameplay
It was already 11pm
It felt more like 120 hibs vs 60 albs like every night

I personally have seen better gameplay than just spam rez - wait for mana - rez - MCL + Pot + Chunk, rince and repeat.
What did you just do? You are condemned.
Now, all the Hibs will jump on you screaming "come and fight us!" and whatever trashtalking.
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:10 PM by Gildar
Kevan89 wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 9:00 AM
Centenario wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 7:08 AM
GTAoE spam
Shrooms
Feeding + Rezzing gameplay
It was already 11pm
It felt more like 120 hibs vs 60 albs like every night

I personally have seen better gameplay than just spam rez - wait for mana - rez - MCL + Pot + Chunk, rince and repeat.
What did you just do? You are condemned.
Now, all the Hibs will jump on you screaming "come and fight us!" and whatever trashtalking.



Useless reply ... but funny ....

You jump on every post with you useless words only to gaslight discussion ... no need at all thanks ... you become boring

Anyway no need of ask Albione to cone and fight ... they fighting vs us all the night ... they wipe Hib BG 3 times and we wipe them 4 if my count is correct ....

You mid run hiding behind a flag .... and obviously dont fight ... only chase solos or smallmen
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:16 PM by Gildar
ExcretusMaximus wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 3:38 AM
According to my GM, who was in the zone at the time, there was a lot of dying Alb spam; my guess is you missed it due to being in a fight yourself.

Yes they inc nged 3 times across evening/night and also ailinne ... but they disengage when our BG come Nged entering by postern.... and start to kill albs by walls.

Great battles tho ... many kills in both Bgs

Very funny evening.

Thx to Albion, we can only put up an hard defence and anyway losing DC and Crim ... no way to attack alb border. Well played chalice guys.
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:50 PM by gnefner
Gildar wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:10 PM
Kevan89 wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 9:00 AM
Centenario wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 7:08 AM
GTAoE spam
Shrooms
Feeding + Rezzing gameplay
It was already 11pm
It felt more like 120 hibs vs 60 albs like every night

I personally have seen better gameplay than just spam rez - wait for mana - rez - MCL + Pot + Chunk, rince and repeat.
What did you just do? You are condemned.
Now, all the Hibs will jump on you screaming "come and fight us!" and whatever trashtalking.



Useless reply ... but funny ....

You jump on every post with you useless words only to gaslight discussion ... no need at all thanks ... you become boring

Anyway no need of ask Albione to cone and fight ... they fighting vs us all the night ... they wipe Hib BG 3 times and we wipe them 4 if my count is correct ....

You mid run hiding behind a flag .... and obviously dont fight ... only chase solos or smallmen

It seems something is happening in Mid.. My group was with the BG the other day, and we actually had 100+ Mids doing shit, together.. We took towers, keeps.. Fought and beat the Hibs 2-3 times, it was a blast! Hope for more of this in the future
Tue 25 Aug 2020 1:00 PM by Gildar
gnefner wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:50 PM
Gildar wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:10 PM
Kevan89 wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 9:00 AM
Centenario wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 7:08 AM
GTAoE spam
Shrooms
Feeding + Rezzing gameplay
It was already 11pm
It felt more like 120 hibs vs 60 albs like every night

I personally have seen better gameplay than just spam rez - wait for mana - rez - MCL + Pot + Chunk, rince and repeat.
What did you just do? You are condemned.
Now, all the Hibs will jump on you screaming "come and fight us!" and whatever trashtalking.



Useless reply ... but funny ....

You jump on every post with you useless words only to gaslight discussion ... no need at all thanks ... you become boring

Anyway no need of ask Albione to cone and fight ... they fighting vs us all the night ... they wipe Hib BG 3 times and we wipe them 4 if my count is correct ....

You mid run hiding behind a flag .... and obviously dont fight ... only chase solos or smallmen

It seems something is happening in Mid.. My group was with the BG the other day, and we actually had 100+ Mids doing shit, together.. We took towers, keeps.. Fought and beat the Hibs 2-3 times, it was a blast! Hope for more of this in the future

I hope you are right and Mid come back in fz ... despite some of your realmmates that fear to come out and fight.
See you on the battlefied soon i hope
Tue 25 Aug 2020 1:27 PM by Kevan89
Gildar wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:10 PM
Kevan89 wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 9:00 AM
Centenario wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 7:08 AM
GTAoE spam
Shrooms
Feeding + Rezzing gameplay
It was already 11pm
It felt more like 120 hibs vs 60 albs like every night

I personally have seen better gameplay than just spam rez - wait for mana - rez - MCL + Pot + Chunk, rince and repeat.
What did you just do? You are condemned.
Now, all the Hibs will jump on you screaming "come and fight us!" and whatever trashtalking.




Useless reply ... but funny ....

You jump on every post with you useless words only to gaslight discussion ... no need at all thanks ... you become boring

Anyway no need of ask Albione to cone and fight ... they fighting vs us all the night ... they wipe Hib BG 3 times and we wipe them 4 if my count is correct ....

You mid run hiding behind a flag .... and obviously dont fight ... only chase solos or smallmen
Happy to entertain, at your service Sir.
On sunday I've seen some movement though so "run hiding behind a flag .... and obviously dont fight" is not really 100% correct as statement, hope it's a start of a positive trend and not a one time thingy.
Tue 25 Aug 2020 1:39 PM by Gildar
Hope so aswell as i said before
Tue 25 Aug 2020 8:10 PM by Siouxsie
Gildar wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:10 PM
You jump on every post with you useless words only to gaslight discussion ... no need at all thanks ... you become boring

"Kettle, this is Pot. Codeword is Black. I repeat: Codeword is Black."
Tue 25 Aug 2020 8:29 PM by Wakefield
Siouxsie wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 8:10 PM
Gildar wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:10 PM
You jump on every post with you useless words only to gaslight discussion ... no need at all thanks ... you become boring

"Kettle, this is Pot. Codeword is Black. I repeat: Codeword is Black."
I concur
Wed 26 Aug 2020 5:25 AM by Valaraukar
Kevan89 wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 1:27 PM
Gildar wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 12:10 PM
Kevan89 wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 9:00 AM
Centenario wrote:
Tue 25 Aug 2020 7:08 AM
GTAoE spam
Shrooms
Feeding + Rezzing gameplay
It was already 11pm
It felt more like 120 hibs vs 60 albs like every night

I personally have seen better gameplay than just spam rez - wait for mana - rez - MCL + Pot + Chunk, rince and repeat.
What did you just do? You are condemned.
Now, all the Hibs will jump on you screaming "come and fight us!" and whatever trashtalking.




Useless reply ... but funny ....

You jump on every post with you useless words only to gaslight discussion ... no need at all thanks ... you become boring

Anyway no need of ask Albione to cone and fight ... they fighting vs us all the night ... they wipe Hib BG 3 times and we wipe them 4 if my count is correct ....

You mid run hiding behind a flag .... and obviously dont fight ... only chase solos or smallmen
Happy to entertain, at your service Sir.
On sunday I've seen some movement though so "run hiding behind a flag .... and obviously dont fight" is not really 100% correct as statement, hope it's a start of a positive trend and not a one time thingy.

Sunday is a special day, in the remaining 6 the numbers are quite clear, like yesterday evening:

Albs 250 Mids 170 Hibs 280

Then they say that we fear to come out and fight
They took Bled with a 130ppl BG, almost the entire population of Mids lvl50 in the entire realm. BUT, and mark my words very well, there is no balance issue in this server!

Nothing more to say.
Wed 26 Aug 2020 7:35 AM by Gildar
I logged around 11.30pm eu time Yesterday evening ...
/u: alb 184 mid 158 Hib 163 ....
Around 1,30 am eu time ... BG alb Polemo spam 64 ... BG mid ffeja spam bolg tower 38 ... BG Hib 17

Yes there is a balance issue in this server!
Anyway what can do Devs about numbers ? They cant force players to play a certain realm.

I also copy here my answer in the prevoius delete post

You want easier pve content for Mid?
OK I'M WITH YOU 100% , farm all gold/feathers/drop you want ... that's no matter for me ... and if you read forum you know i wrote many times i'm against actusl realm switch timer ... in my opinion switch timer have to be atleast 6 hour for both RvR AND pve also .... so less xrealmers...

About nerf ... Hib was already nerfed so many times ... countless times on animist, also we have reduced amnesia range on bards and we are THE ONLY REALM having amnesia 2000 range .... Mid and Alb have 2300 ... and more other nerf ....

Last thing ... i answer your previous question ....
With only 50 ppl it is nearly impossible to do a Galladoria Raid ..... you need almost 80 /90 and hope anyone listen raid leader ... With a wrong cast you wipe all raid ....
Wed 26 Aug 2020 9:33 AM by Valaraukar
Gildar wrote:
Wed 26 Aug 2020 7:35 AM
I logged around 11.30pm eu time Yesterday evening ...
/u: alb 184 mid 158 Hib 163 ....
Around 1,30 am eu time ... BG alb Polemo spam 64 ... BG mid ffeja spam bolg tower 38 ... BG Hib 17

Yes there is a balance issue in this server!
Anyway what can do Devs about numbers ? They cant force players to play a certain realm.

I also copy here my answer in the prevoius delete post

You want easier pve content for Mid?
OK I'M WITH YOU 100% , farm all gold/feathers/drop you want ... that's no matter for me ... and if you read forum you know i wrote many times i'm against actusl realm switch timer ... in my opinion switch timer have to be atleast 6 hour for both RvR AND pve also .... so less xrealmers...

About nerf ... Hib was already nerfed so many times ... countless times on animist, also we have reduced amnesia range on bards and we are THE ONLY REALM having amnesia 2000 range .... Mid and Alb have 2300 ... and more other nerf ....

Last thing ... i answer your previous question ....
With only 50 ppl it is nearly impossible to do a Galladoria Raid ..... you need almost 80 /90 and hope anyone listen raid leader ... With a wrong cast you wipe all raid ....

11.30 pm is not exactly Prime Time for EU, I talk about 9.30 PM when I logged just after dinner. There was no Mid BG running at all at that time, I bet because against those numbers there is nothing one could do apart feeding RPs to Hibs and get wiped again and again

Totally agree with the realm timer issue, I voted for 24 hrs (because there was not a vote to completely get rid of it or I would have chosen so), the farming is becoming insane, especially feathers who are the real economy of the server, since you can make all the money you want but you have very limited ways to make a good amount of feathers (and you need them for Alkemy). HoH has disappeared, DS is quite hard to do, especially for no experienced players, the epic mob loop is a pain and does not give so good rewards. Imho they should add more feathers for RvR tasks and objectives, both for large scale (keeps conquest) and solo/small/8man. Also a bit more gold in RvR would be nice, the gap is too huge between players farming in pve and players doing only RvR/PvP.

About nerf, it's not a nerf when it changes an obviously broken feature: animist "nerf" with shroom is the perfect example (or minstrels, who are still a lot broken but less than before). Regarding Amnesia, you are right but I can respond that Hib is the ONLY REALM that has it instant
Which was the broken feature with BD lt? It has been nerfed by 50%, nothing given back to balance it, just a plain nerf without explanation (apart for the whining of the stealthers who could not beat a BD, because you know they MUST beat everyone otherwise what's the point of being a stealther? ).

The point is: no, of course devs cannot force ppl to play a realm, but they can improve the appeal of that realm if they see that it's not balanced anymore with the other two. They tried to give large % bonuses, but I feel that it's not the right way to do it. Something else should be done, I call for a class rebalance because right now casters have huge advantages against melee and, again and again, Mid casters are the underdog, always been.
Wed 26 Aug 2020 10:15 AM by Gildar
Valaraukar wrote:
Wed 26 Aug 2020 9:33 AM
Gildar wrote:
Wed 26 Aug 2020 7:35 AM
I logged around 11.30pm eu time Yesterday evening ...
/u: alb 184 mid 158 Hib 163 ....
Around 1,30 am eu time ... BG alb Polemo spam 64 ... BG mid ffeja spam bolg tower 38 ... BG Hib 17

Yes there is a balance issue in this server!
Anyway what can do Devs about numbers ? They cant force players to play a certain realm.

I also copy here my answer in the prevoius delete post

You want easier pve content for Mid?
OK I'M WITH YOU 100% , farm all gold/feathers/drop you want ... that's no matter for me ... and if you read forum you know i wrote many times i'm against actusl realm switch timer ... in my opinion switch timer have to be atleast 6 hour for both RvR AND pve also .... so less xrealmers...

About nerf ... Hib was already nerfed so many times ... countless times on animist, also we have reduced amnesia range on bards and we are THE ONLY REALM having amnesia 2000 range .... Mid and Alb have 2300 ... and more other nerf ....

Last thing ... i answer your previous question ....
With only 50 ppl it is nearly impossible to do a Galladoria Raid ..... you need almost 80 /90 and hope anyone listen raid leader ... With a wrong cast you wipe all raid ....

11.30 pm is not exactly Prime Time for EU, I talk about 9.30 PM when I logged just after dinner. There was no Mid BG running at all at that time, I bet because against those numbers there is nothing one could do apart feeding RPs to Hibs and get wiped again and again
i can play only from 22,30-23,00 ... and report what i see at that time ... believe me the number was like i said
Totally agree with the realm timer issue, I voted for 24 hrs (because there was not a vote to completely get rid of it or I would have chosen so), the farming is becoming insane, especially feathers who are the real economy of the server, since you can make all the money you want but you have very limited ways to make a good amount of feathers (and you need them for Alkemy). HoH has disappeared, DS is quite hard to do, especially for no experienced players, the epic mob loop is a pain and does not give so good rewards. Imho they should add more feathers for RvR tasks and objectives, both for large scale (keeps conquest) and solo/small/8man. Also a bit more gold in RvR would be nice, the gap is too huge between players farming in pve and players doing only RvR/PvP.
Yes feathers are the Real economy here and i agree with you about HoH and DS ... in Hib no toons set for RvR are accepted for DS due to different RA set needed.. but ... i made like 75.000 feathers in RvR ... i Think reward for rvr are good here
About nerf, it's not a nerf when it changes an obviously broken feature: animist "nerf" with shroom is the perfect example (or minstrels, who are still a lot broken but less than before). Regarding Amnesia, you are right but I can respond that Hib is the ONLY REALM that has it instant
Yes but is useless have an instant amnesia if enemy can outrange you and cast amnesia on you before you get in range to cast yours
Which was the broken feature with BD lt? It has been nerfed by 50%, nothing given back to balance it, just a plain nerf without explanation (apart for the whining of the stealthers who could not beat a BD, because you know they MUST beat everyone otherwise what's the point of being a stealther? ).
ghghghgh
The point is: no, of course devs cannot force ppl to play a realm, but they can improve the appeal of that realm if they see that it's not balanced anymore with the other two. They tried to give large % bonuses, but I feel that it's not the right way to do it. Something else should be done, I call for a class rebalance because right now casters have huge advantages against melee and, again and again, Mid casters are the underdog, always been.
you know ... in my opinion there is not a great imbalance of classes here ...

Answering in Green above

You say nothing about epic dungeon ... i guess TG is like Galladoria ... Sidi really easy ... what do you Think?
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