Single Target Disease Discussion

I'm not sure if this has been talked about but it has been a topic I've been wondering for a while now. Can we make single target disease spell levels grow when speccing into Mana? AoE disease spell grows through specialization. Why not single target disease? This argument can be said for cabbalist's as well, and mids too. (Sorry, not so familiar).

The level 6 single target disease for an eld has a resist chance of 34.5%. The only way to diminish this is by putting points into MoF, AoE disease does not have such high resist chances but breaks mez around the target.

This suggestion would of course be for all 3 realms.

It is not adding anything new or taking anything away since all realms would receive higher single target disease spells accordingly so I don't see how this can cause imbalance.

Thoughts?

Mon 24 Aug 2020 9:04 PM by Ibs

deamon64 wrote: ↑
Mon 24 Aug 2020 8:19 PM
I'm not sure if this has been talked about but it has been a topic I've been wondering for a while now. Can we make single target disease spell levels grow when speccing into Mana? AoE disease spell grows through specialization. Why not single target disease? This argument can be said for cabbalist's as well, and mids too. (Sorry, not so familiar).

The level 6 single target disease for an eld has a resist chance of 34.5%. The only way to diminish this is by putting points into MoF, AoE disease does not have such high resist chances but breaks mez around the target.

This suggestion would of course be for all 3 realms.

It is not adding anything new or taking anything away since all realms would receive higher single target disease spells accordingly so I don't see how this can cause imbalance.

Thoughts?

The cabalist disease is level 3 and the shaman gets one at 12 iirc. Considering shams don't even have to spec cave to get their single target disease nor their aoe (only the pbae disease) it would be a distinct advantage to mid. Don't necessarily disagree with you, just something to think about balance wise. Shams have a slim advantage already considering their last single target disease is already the highest level. As an eld player I'd certainly like the change haha.

Mon 24 Aug 2020 9:12 PM by deamon64

So shams already have this ability without speccing into it and a high level one for less resist chance vs. L6 & 3. Thanks for filling me in.

All that said just makes this suggestion clear that 2 other realms are missing it. Sham vs. cabb vs. eld are three entirely different classes. I hope we can more thoughts here.

Mon 24 Aug 2020 9:21 PM by Ibs

deamon64 wrote: ↑
Mon 24 Aug 2020 9:12 PM
So shams already have this ability without speccing into it and a high level one for less resist chance vs. L6 & 3. Thanks for filling me in.

All that said just makes this suggestion clear that 2 other realms are missing it. Sham vs. cabb vs. eld are three entirely different classes. I hope we can more thoughts here.

Cabalist would have an advantage over eld depending on spec. For general 8v8 where eld goes light, cab goes trispec (43 body/33 spirit/11 matter or something similar) it will be a scenario where mid gets red con single target, alb gets yellow or red single target, and hib would get blue. (Again all of this is assuming both cab and eld specs ofc)

Mon 24 Aug 2020 10:04 PM by Solong

deamon64 wrote: ↑
Mon 24 Aug 2020 9:12 PM
So shams already have this ability without speccing into it and a high level one for less resist chance vs. L6 & 3. Thanks for filling me in.

All that said just makes this suggestion clear that 2 other realms are missing it. Sham vs. cabb vs. eld are three entirely different classes. I hope we can more thoughts here.

shaman singel is only lv 16 too.. not that huge difference for resists compared to lv 6 . in fact that shaman gets singel root, aoe disease, a singel dot and a lv 16 singel disease i would not even concider to tell this any avantage against the baseline from eld or cabba.. not to mention that shaman dont have a quickcast

Mon 24 Aug 2020 10:18 PM by Ibs

Solong wrote: ↑
Mon 24 Aug 2020 10:04 PM
deamon64 wrote: ↑
Mon 24 Aug 2020 9:12 PM
So shams already have this ability without speccing into it and a high level one for less resist chance vs. L6 & 3. Thanks for filling me in.

All that said just makes this suggestion clear that 2 other realms are missing it. Sham vs. cabb vs. eld are three entirely different classes. I hope we can more thoughts here.

shaman singel is only lv 16 too.. not that huge difference for resists compared to lv 6 . in fact that shaman gets singel root, aoe disease, a singel dot and a lv 16 singel disease i would not even concider to tell this any avantage against the baseline from eld or cabba.. not to mention that shaman dont have a quickcast

Disease isn't baseline for eld or cabby. Totally agree quickcast is a definite advantage, but so is base/spec line buffs with pbae insta disease, it's just a different class all together.

Tue 25 Aug 2020 1:07 AM by deamon64

Yes definitely a different class all together.

My whole point here is since cab and eld both already have spec line single target disease, it should grow with levels for resists purposes. Not necessarily adding or taking away spells. 34.5% chance of resists is high.

Tue 25 Aug 2020 4:13 AM by deamon64

I would really like to know devs thoughts on this...I'm not sure if these posts fall on deaf ears or what does it take to see a response? I don't often post on the forums so I don't expect much traction from followers i don't have.

Tue 25 Aug 2020 6:40 AM by Sepplord

can't gauge how it would impact 8vs8 or zergfights realmbalance wise, probably not a huge effect, but the thoughtprocess here seems biased

Step1: this should be done, all realms get the same so how could it be bad for balance?

Step2: Ohh...midgard already has this? Well that means that alb and hib deserve it too, balance must be skewed currently

Step3: Ahh well, they don't really have it, but regardless, resistrate is too high, i want buff

Tue 25 Aug 2020 3:16 PM by deamon64

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 25 Aug 2020 6:40 AM
can't gauge how it would impact 8vs8 or zergfights realmbalance wise, probably not a huge effect, but the thoughtprocess here seems biased

Step1: this should be done, all realms get the same so how could it be bad for balance?

Step2: Ohh...midgard already has this? Well that means that alb and hib deserve it too, balance must be skewed currently

Step3: Ahh well, they don't really have it, but regardless, resistrate is too high, i want buff

Solid contribution thanks

Wed 26 Aug 2020 5:53 AM by Sepplord

You're welcome, good to hear you got the point