So today, I log in, see mid in shambles, hibs 40-50 percent more logged in, and more people ditching alb to go to hib...This is most likely due to people wanting the relic advantage and or tired of getting rolled over and over...Just remove relics and you get rid of the people that relic hop for that extra bonuses...Or DO something about the relics, or realm timer, or something to prevent these population in balances.
First time I dont want to play
Started 9 Aug 2020
by
cutbacks
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RvR
Sun 9 Aug 2020 7:44 PM
by
Noashakra
cutbacks wrote: ↑Sun 9 Aug 2020 5:48 PMSo today, I log in, see mid in shambles, hibs 40-50 percent more logged in, and more people ditching alb to go to hib...This is most likely due to people wanting the relic advantage and or tired of getting rolled over and over...Just remove relics and you get rid of the people that relic hop for that extra bonuses...Or DO something about the relics, or realm timer, or something to prevent these population in balances.
Or maybe don't log off and join the BG?
if everyone do like you, of course nothing will change...
Sun 9 Aug 2020 8:30 PM
by
Cadebrennus
This is the first time I've wanted to play Mid since beta and server launch. Finally it's not the overpop realm!
Sun 9 Aug 2020 8:37 PM
by
sebbo
But you wanted to play when Mid was outnumbering the other realms? Thats what you basically say?
Sun 9 Aug 2020 9:39 PM
by
Gildar
Noashakra wrote: ↑Sun 9 Aug 2020 7:44 PMcutbacks wrote: ↑Sun 9 Aug 2020 5:48 PMSo today, I log in, see mid in shambles, hibs 40-50 percent more logged in, and more people ditching alb to go to hib...This is most likely due to people wanting the relic advantage and or tired of getting rolled over and over...Just remove relics and you get rid of the people that relic hop for that extra bonuses...Or DO something about the relics, or realm timer, or something to prevent these population in balances.
Or maybe don't log off and join the BG?
if everyone do like you, of course nothing will change...
This is the right answer ... join the realm BG and fight ... if all do that you wont be rolled
Ppl dont change realm for relic bonus but to join the most effective BG
Sun 9 Aug 2020 11:40 PM
by
Wakefield
If the odds stacked against you, there is no point getting rolled time and time again.
The server is very caster/ ranged friendly at the moment and as the tankiest realm, Mid kinda sucks in keep takes.
The server is very caster/ ranged friendly at the moment and as the tankiest realm, Mid kinda sucks in keep takes.
Mon 10 Aug 2020 12:40 AM
by
Freedomcall
Mid used to wreck everything last year when they had population.
It is just because of the number imbalance.
It is just because of the number imbalance.
Mon 10 Aug 2020 4:27 AM
by
gotwqqd
Every realm has its day
Last week alb lands were green most of the day
Last week alb lands were green most of the day
Mon 10 Aug 2020 6:09 AM
by
Noashakra
Wakefield wrote: ↑Sun 9 Aug 2020 11:40 PMIf the odds stacked against you, there is no point getting rolled time and time again.
The server is very caster/ ranged friendly at the moment and as the tankiest realm, Mid kinda sucks in keep takes.
Mid had a good BG yesterday and took some towers/keeps (70 people). But to be faire the hib bg was too big, but they still had action. If more people joined, they would have done a lot better.
Mon 10 Aug 2020 6:47 AM
by
Cadebrennus
Wakefield wrote: ↑Sun 9 Aug 2020 11:40 PMIf the odds stacked against you, there is no point getting rolled time and time again.
The server is very caster/ ranged friendly at the moment and as the tankiest realm, Mid kinda sucks in keep takes.
Of all the casters in all of the realms, I fear a Mid Caster group the most. They are hell to fight against when played well.
The problem isn't the lack of good casting classes in Mid, it's that Mid Tank classes are so good that there's little incentive to play Casters.
Mon 10 Aug 2020 6:49 AM
by
tommccartney
I was in the Mid BG last night and yesterday afternoon, and we ended up feeding. However, during the evening it was the first time I’d seen a decent size BG on Mid for a while and hopefully it will improve over the next few weeks.
Hib will always naturally excel at keep take warfare. Baseline stun helps to pin targets on walls etc so everyone can nuke the crap out of it. The healing utility of hib as a whole is better, there’s just more classes that can throw heals down, and their buffs and heals are on 1 class and aren’t split into 2 like on Mid. And ofc there’s animists.
Imo relics should grant RP, BP, crafting and coin bonus, but the damage bonuses from relics should be removed.
Implement a 12hr realm timer for ALL ZONES again so it’s imposssible to manipulate. If you can’t take a 12hr break from the game then you need to assess your real life too
Hib will always naturally excel at keep take warfare. Baseline stun helps to pin targets on walls etc so everyone can nuke the crap out of it. The healing utility of hib as a whole is better, there’s just more classes that can throw heals down, and their buffs and heals are on 1 class and aren’t split into 2 like on Mid. And ofc there’s animists.
Imo relics should grant RP, BP, crafting and coin bonus, but the damage bonuses from relics should be removed.
Implement a 12hr realm timer for ALL ZONES again so it’s imposssible to manipulate. If you can’t take a 12hr break from the game then you need to assess your real life too
Mon 10 Aug 2020 6:51 AM
by
gnefner
Personally I'm still leveling up Mid toons, after ditching Hib because of the imballance, it's just not fun.. But the amount of people I see moving from either Mid or Alb TO Hib is kinda disheartening..
I'm ready to do my part though! As soon as people are willing to take a newly 50 Shaman, and DS noob with them on DS raids, so i can get gear!!
I'm ready to do my part though! As soon as people are willing to take a newly 50 Shaman, and DS noob with them on DS raids, so i can get gear!!
Mon 10 Aug 2020 6:52 AM
by
tyrantanic
Numbers are more important for open field fights than they are for keep fights. My guild group was able to consistently fend off Mid and Hib BGs during NA prime with a catapult assist train before the Archery changes. Granted, the BGs during NA prime were significantly smaller than during EU prime. I'm honestly surprised I haven't seen or at least noticed a Volley assist train in keep sieges. Since the Archery changes, Volley hits substantially harder than catapults so it would be an easy way to wipe a large number of players with just a handful of defenders. Combine them both and you could probably wipe an entire BG with 8 or less players. A little bit of coordination can go a long way when fighting "superior" numbers. I'll have to demonstrate it again when I can play more consistently.
Mon 10 Aug 2020 9:17 AM
by
Vkejai
I play all three realms and normally play on the underdog side. I played mid and Alb the past two weeks. Very poor Bg play . So I tried Hib last night as I only had two hours to play. Within 30 mins I logged. So boring PvE doors . Gone are the mile gate stand offs unfortunately.
Mon 10 Aug 2020 11:49 AM
by
Nidd
1 month ago Hib had the worst server pop out of all 3 realms, 100 more players played Alb at any single time. now that Polemo has left for his holidays people now complaining about Hib now been over pop'ed. The main problem is Alb and Mid have terrible BG's and Mids only care about flag tasks. people need to stop complaining and start making better BG's.
When Polemo played mid, I even came on here and complained about how hard it was to kill a tank bg vs a caster bg with the hp boost, now people saying tanks are still underpowered... lol maybe stop taking flags and make bigger and better BG might work.
2-3 weeks ago Blue Sunday 220+ Mids attacked Hib, with 110 Hibs we killed them 4-5 times due to their stupid tactics. for some odd reason you guys went to take EV towers 220 Mids? you all wiped on a EV tower, also the other day you keep attacking keeps without cutting port first. lol who is commanding this BG????
Main issues: make better BG's and maybe look into getting rid of the realm timer to over a week. yes a week!
When Polemo played mid, I even came on here and complained about how hard it was to kill a tank bg vs a caster bg with the hp boost, now people saying tanks are still underpowered... lol maybe stop taking flags and make bigger and better BG might work.
2-3 weeks ago Blue Sunday 220+ Mids attacked Hib, with 110 Hibs we killed them 4-5 times due to their stupid tactics. for some odd reason you guys went to take EV towers 220 Mids? you all wiped on a EV tower, also the other day you keep attacking keeps without cutting port first. lol who is commanding this BG????
Main issues: make better BG's and maybe look into getting rid of the realm timer to over a week. yes a week!
Mon 10 Aug 2020 1:09 PM
by
gnefner
Nidd wrote: ↑Mon 10 Aug 2020 11:49 AM1 month ago Hib had the worst server pop out of all 3 realms, 100 more players played Alb at any single time. now that Polemo has left for his holidays people now complaining about Hib now been over pop'ed. The main problem is Alb and Mid have terrible BG's and Mids only care about flag tasks. people need to stop complaining and start making better BG's.
When Polemo played mid, I even came on here and complained about how hard it was to kill a tank bg vs a caster bg with the hp boost, now people saying tanks are still underpowered... lol maybe stop taking flags and make bigger and better BG might work.
2-3 weeks ago Blue Sunday 220+ Mids attacked Hib, with 110 Hibs we killed them 4-5 times due to their stupid tactics. for some odd reason you guys went to take EV towers 220 Mids? you all wiped on a EV tower, also the other day you keep attacking keeps without cutting port first. lol who is commanding this BG????
Main issues: make better BG's and maybe look into getting rid of the realm timer to over a week. yes a week!
I think the problems is, that no one is commanding the BG.. It seems that it's a new guy every night, trying to get something rolling, but it never really does... Mid doesn't have a leader, no one who people will follow, and no one with enough zerg/siege knowledge to get a following, or get something done, when we finally have a BG with some number (ei. Blue Sunday..)
Mon 10 Aug 2020 1:11 PM
by
jlxscholar
cutbacks wrote: ↑Sun 9 Aug 2020 5:48 PMSo today, I log in, see mid in shambles, hibs 40-50 percent more logged in, and more people ditching alb to go to hib...This is most likely due to people wanting the relic advantage and or tired of getting rolled over and over...Just remove relics and you get rid of the people that relic hop for that extra bonuses...Or DO something about the relics, or realm timer, or something to prevent these population in balances.
Ya if we made keeps less easy to bend over this wouldn't happen.
In the current game there is no such thing as defense when 80+ roll up on a keep and cut towers. The hecks the point, its PVE. Let us port to the keep if 1 tower remains.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 12:13 AM
by
swap89
jlxscholar wrote: ↑Mon 10 Aug 2020 1:11 PMcutbacks wrote: ↑Sun 9 Aug 2020 5:48 PMSo today, I log in, see mid in shambles, hibs 40-50 percent more logged in, and more people ditching alb to go to hib...This is most likely due to people wanting the relic advantage and or tired of getting rolled over and over...Just remove relics and you get rid of the people that relic hop for that extra bonuses...Or DO something about the relics, or realm timer, or something to prevent these population in balances.
Ya if we made keeps less easy to bend over this wouldn't happen.
In the current game there is no such thing as defense when 80+ roll up on a keep and cut towers. The hecks the point, its PVE. Let us port to the keep if 1 tower remains.
yes mid yesterday attacked scathaig without cutting teleport.
so this change is of little use.
this is the game.
cut teleports, fake attacks, go elsewhere, and choose the best situation and the best keep to take.
A keep can be reached without teleport in 3-4 minutes maximum. Any keep, wherever you are at that moment.
so it's not a teleport problem, but a willingness to organize and defend.
for example, if while the keep necessary to open the gate of the relic is being stolen, you take the boat and go to the other frontier to take useless towers, it is not a problem of teleport, but of inability to defend the frontier.
daoc is a game designed for 3 realms fighting, not 2.
attacking one realm without the other's "help" is difficult.
probably we in hibernia almost always have active bg, but if alb / mid attack together it is difficult to defend 6 relics.
the problem is not the numbers or the bonuses of the keeps taken, in fact even in defense you take big bonuses, but the willingness or ability of the realms to organize something based on the situation.
smap
Tue 11 Aug 2020 12:30 AM
by
Wakefield
So you suggesting mid and alb organising a cross realm raid? Isn't that against the rules?
Tue 11 Aug 2020 3:52 AM
by
swap89
Wakefield wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 12:30 AMSo you suggesting mid and alb organising a cross realm raid? Isn't that against the rules?
that was not the point.
to help each other without even talking to each other there are ways.
not like you mean it and get organized together
Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:52 AM
by
gnefner
swap89 wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 3:52 AMWakefield wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 12:30 AMSo you suggesting mid and alb organising a cross realm raid? Isn't that against the rules?
that was not the point.
to help each other without even talking to each other there are ways.
not like you mean it and get organized together
Even if this happened regularly, there would be a huge outcry.. And all of Hib would call crossrealm, like it's always been the case in the past, when 2 realm work together against the 3rd. The problem now, for Mid at least, is that we have no leader.. And When Hib rolls out in force, all day every day with 80+ people, it's useless, it really is.. And you Hibs are relentless, it is EVERY DAY, all the time, you're hammering on doors.. So I think most of Mid pretty much gave up, so I guess you won-- Or something
Tue 11 Aug 2020 10:38 AM
by
Thoralf1
Hibernia won!
An I play Mid since 4th January 2019.
You wont find postings from me in this forum since then.
Why? Because I used my time to play.
Now its not much fun and ive time to write and argue and cry and laugh.
An I play Mid since 4th January 2019.
You wont find postings from me in this forum since then.
Why? Because I used my time to play.
Now its not much fun and ive time to write and argue and cry and laugh.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 12:37 PM
by
Gildar
gnefner wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:52 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 3:52 AMWakefield wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 12:30 AMSo you suggesting mid and alb organising a cross realm raid? Isn't that against the rules?
that was not the point.
to help each other without even talking to each other there are ways.
not like you mean it and get organized together
Even if this happened regularly, there would be a huge outcry.. And all of Hib would call crossrealm, like it's always been the case in the past, when 2 realm work together against the 3rd. The problem now, for Mid at least, is that we have no leader.. And When Hib rolls out in force, all day every day with 80+ people, it's useless, it really is.. And you Hibs are relentless, it is EVERY DAY, all the time, you're hammering on doors.. So I think most of Mid pretty much gave up, so I guess you won-- Or something
A simple question ... why Mid have no BG leaders ????
I can guess because of most of Mids go zerg flags ... also in 3 fg or more sticked. Why dont open a BG so ???
Why Polemo can rally 100 albs but Giosakis ( aka Polemo) cant manage to form a decent BG on Mid ????
This is a problem of Mid realm/players ... and not an Hib fault ....
Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:17 PM
by
Wakefield
People wont follow Gio on mid purely for the fact he used to complain royally when pve leaders(Srly) were running TG raids on a daily basis.
When 100+ mids are in TG to get templates sorted, plus those like me who enjoyed doing TG in the main group, and your getting called all the names under the sun, it left a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of the playerbase.
And my short time on alb as a break, he was up to his old tricks when Solic used to run Sidi.
When 100+ mids are in TG to get templates sorted, plus those like me who enjoyed doing TG in the main group, and your getting called all the names under the sun, it left a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of the playerbase.
And my short time on alb as a break, he was up to his old tricks when Solic used to run Sidi.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:29 PM
by
Wakefield
Oadin I think is doing tl stuff, Grumpy has retired from leading, Ana is doing his best NA times, Johny does his best with what he can summon up EU times.
Mid just doesnt have the population to zerg fight anymore.
The banning of certain people, whether it was right or wrong is not for me to say, but a lot of the German alliance have disappeared due to it.
Mid just doesnt have the population to zerg fight anymore.
The banning of certain people, whether it was right or wrong is not for me to say, but a lot of the German alliance have disappeared due to it.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:34 PM
by
gnefner
Gildar wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 12:37 PMgnefner wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:52 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 3:52 AMWakefield wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 12:30 AMSo you suggesting mid and alb organising a cross realm raid? Isn't that against the rules?
that was not the point.
to help each other without even talking to each other there are ways.
not like you mean it and get organized together
Even if this happened regularly, there would be a huge outcry.. And all of Hib would call crossrealm, like it's always been the case in the past, when 2 realm work together against the 3rd. The problem now, for Mid at least, is that we have no leader.. And When Hib rolls out in force, all day every day with 80+ people, it's useless, it really is.. And you Hibs are relentless, it is EVERY DAY, all the time, you're hammering on doors.. So I think most of Mid pretty much gave up, so I guess you won-- Or something
A simple question ... why Mid have no BG leaders ????
I can guess because of most of Mids go zerg flags ... also in 3 fg or more sticked. Why dont open a BG so ???
Why Polemo can rally 100 albs but Giosakis ( aka Polemo) cant manage to form a decent BG on Mid ????
This is a problem of Mid realm/players ... and not an Hib fault ....
If I knew why, I'd have a fix.. but I don't
I myself don't zerg flags with 3 groups... But I'm no leader, and I don't play nearly enough to make a difference, even if I was 
It's not directly the fault of Hibs, but Hib hammering Mid still.. Every single day, as the servers biggest underdog - that doesn't help. Hib has a zerg 24/7 - right now no one can really compete, which is clearly seen on RW all the time, really. I think, no one wants to step up to the plate, because most think the battle is lost even before it began, simply because of numbers - so people just zerg flags for rp's, just like Hib zergs empty keeps.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:43 PM
by
Valaraukar
gnefner wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:34 PMIf I knew why, I'd have a fix.. but I don't
It's not directly the fault of Hibs, but Hib hammering Mid still.. Every single day, as the servers biggest underdog - that doesn't help. Hib has a zerg 24/7 - right now no one can really compete, which is clearly seen on RW all the time, really. I think, no one wants to step up to the plate, because most think the battle is lost even before it began, simply because of numbers - so people just zerg flags for rp's, just like Hib zergs empty keeps.
Hib hammers Mid because it's easy RP farming. They take towers and keeps and roll over the Mid BG who has half their numbers. And then they say that there is not a balance issue here just to be able to keep farming RP this way.
Don't listen to them, they just want to hide the simple truth. We should leave them taking empty keeps and towers and when everything is green just let them sit inside the Uppland relic gate and wave them from the frontier village
Every Hib talking here have the solution, you see, someone posts random numbers to demonstrate that there is not a balance issue (LOL!), someone just talk like they were the reincarnation of Napoleon himself, but in the end the only thing that they do is outnumber the enemies and go where the RP farming is easier. Good game, really good game.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 3:57 PM
by
swap89
it is our fault if you are all day waving flags in 2-3 groups. If you turn around and do 8 man, if you don't organize yourself to do anything all together while the border is on fire.Valaraukar wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:43 PMgnefner wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:34 PMIf I knew why, I'd have a fix.. but I don't
It's not directly the fault of Hibs, but Hib hammering Mid still.. Every single day, as the servers biggest underdog - that doesn't help. Hib has a zerg 24/7 - right now no one can really compete, which is clearly seen on RW all the time, really. I think, no one wants to step up to the plate, because most think the battle is lost even before it began, simply because of numbers - so people just zerg flags for rp's, just like Hib zergs empty keeps.
Hib hammers Mid because it's easy RP farming. They take towers and keeps and roll over the Mid BG who has half their numbers. And then they say that there is not a balance issue here just to be able to keep farming RP this way.
Don't listen to them, they just want to hide the simple truth. We should leave them taking empty keeps and towers and when everything is green just let them sit inside the Uppland relic gate and wave them from the frontier village
Every Hib talking here have the solution, you see, someone posts random numbers to demonstrate that there is not a balance issue (LOL!), someone just talk like they were the reincarnation of Napoleon himself, but in the end the only thing that they do is outnumber the enemies and go where the RP farming is easier. Good game, really good game.
this is our fault too.
Bah...
Tue 11 Aug 2020 4:14 PM
by
Valaraukar
swap89 wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 3:57 PMit is our fault if you are all day waving flags in 2-3 groups. If you turn around and do 8 man, if you don't organize yourself to do anything all together while the border is on fire.Valaraukar wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:43 PMgnefner wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:34 PMIf I knew why, I'd have a fix.. but I don't
It's not directly the fault of Hibs, but Hib hammering Mid still.. Every single day, as the servers biggest underdog - that doesn't help. Hib has a zerg 24/7 - right now no one can really compete, which is clearly seen on RW all the time, really. I think, no one wants to step up to the plate, because most think the battle is lost even before it began, simply because of numbers - so people just zerg flags for rp's, just like Hib zergs empty keeps.
Hib hammers Mid because it's easy RP farming. They take towers and keeps and roll over the Mid BG who has half their numbers. And then they say that there is not a balance issue here just to be able to keep farming RP this way.
Don't listen to them, they just want to hide the simple truth. We should leave them taking empty keeps and towers and when everything is green just let them sit inside the Uppland relic gate and wave them from the frontier village
Every Hib talking here have the solution, you see, someone posts random numbers to demonstrate that there is not a balance issue (LOL!), someone just talk like they were the reincarnation of Napoleon himself, but in the end the only thing that they do is outnumber the enemies and go where the RP farming is easier. Good game, really good game.
this is our fault too.
Bah...
Everytime we try to fight you it becomes an RP fest for you because you are ALWAYS at least 1.5x, so yes, we should let you go against empty keeps.
I'm not saying that this is your fault, I believe that as a BG leader I'd do the same, because you put up a BG to let people make RP so this probably is the right choice... the one thing that I contest is that you (not you personally, the Realm trend I'd say) keep saying that there is not a balance issue and that the ONLY fault is that Mid cannot organize himself. And this is not true.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 4:58 PM
by
Noashakra
Don't listen to dark Templars, they will find all the excuses in the world to justify their flag Zerg.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 6:59 PM
by
gnefner
Valaraukar wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 4:14 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 3:57 PMit is our fault if you are all day waving flags in 2-3 groups. If you turn around and do 8 man, if you don't organize yourself to do anything all together while the border is on fire.Valaraukar wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:43 PMgnefner wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:34 PMIf I knew why, I'd have a fix.. but I don't
It's not directly the fault of Hibs, but Hib hammering Mid still.. Every single day, as the servers biggest underdog - that doesn't help. Hib has a zerg 24/7 - right now no one can really compete, which is clearly seen on RW all the time, really. I think, no one wants to step up to the plate, because most think the battle is lost even before it began, simply because of numbers - so people just zerg flags for rp's, just like Hib zergs empty keeps.
Hib hammers Mid because it's easy RP farming. They take towers and keeps and roll over the Mid BG who has half their numbers. And then they say that there is not a balance issue here just to be able to keep farming RP this way.
Don't listen to them, they just want to hide the simple truth. We should leave them taking empty keeps and towers and when everything is green just let them sit inside the Uppland relic gate and wave them from the frontier village
Every Hib talking here have the solution, you see, someone posts random numbers to demonstrate that there is not a balance issue (LOL!), someone just talk like they were the reincarnation of Napoleon himself, but in the end the only thing that they do is outnumber the enemies and go where the RP farming is easier. Good game, really good game.
this is our fault too.
Bah...
Everytime we try to fight you it becomes an RP fest for you because you are ALWAYS at least 1.5x, so yes, we should let you go against empty keeps.
I'm not saying that this is your fault, I believe that as a BG leader I'd do the same, because you put up a BG to let people make RP so this probably is the right choice... the one thing that I contest is that you (not you personally, the Realm trend I'd say) keep saying that there is not a balance issue and that the ONLY fault is that Mid cannot organize himself. And this is not true.
And there you have it.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:10 PM
by
Gildar
Valaraukar wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:43 PMgnefner wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 1:34 PMIf I knew why, I'd have a fix.. but I don't
It's not directly the fault of Hibs, but Hib hammering Mid still.. Every single day, as the servers biggest underdog - that doesn't help. Hib has a zerg 24/7 - right now no one can really compete, which is clearly seen on RW all the time, really. I think, no one wants to step up to the plate, because most think the battle is lost even before it began, simply because of numbers - so people just zerg flags for rp's, just like Hib zergs empty keeps.
Hib hammers Mid because it's easy RP farming. They take towers and keeps and roll over the Mid BG who has half their numbers. And then they say that there is not a balance issue here just to be able to keep farming RP this way.
Don't listen to them, they just want to hide the simple truth. We should leave them taking empty keeps and towers and when everything is green just let them sit inside the Uppland relic gate and wave them from the frontier village
Every Hib talking here have the solution, you see, someone posts random numbers to demonstrate that there is not a balance issue (LOL!), someone just talk like they were the reincarnation of Napoleon himself, but in the end the only thing that they do is outnumber the enemies and go where the RP farming is easier. Good game, really good game.
So speak the King of flag zerg ... that have number to zerg flags but no to do a Real rvr BG
Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:27 PM
by
Komaf
gotwqqd wrote: ↑Mon 10 Aug 2020 4:27 AMEvery realm has its day
Last week alb lands were green most of the day
When you log into mid every day to see Hibernia has DF 4/7 days, Albion 2/7 days, and Mid for about 3 hours...you know there's a problem.
Also @developers - I get it's not your fault. This is a project of the heart and all and I really do appreciate that. But this is a two-realm server. I don't know what the fix is. I cannot tell you how often - as with literally just now, for example - mid groups are forced into crappy pve zones to level or just end up breaking up because it's a non-stop rat race between Hib and Alb to bottom feed off of us.
We spend X amount of time trying to get a shaman and healer - then, anything else we can find, run out to 4-5 different frontier spots and last less than 10-15 minutes. Sometimes we get a little bit - like an hour last night. Maybe it's bad luck.
Maybe the reality is this really is just a 2 faction game. Alb and Hib. And therein lies the great weakness of this old game since 2001. Clearly not many folks want to play mid and there's just nothing to do about it.
Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:58 PM
by
Noashakra
We had the same problem for weeks around xmass, no rk, no keeps. I still logged and played.
Wed 12 Aug 2020 12:02 AM
by
Wakefield
The tank realm loses out in keep take rvr.
8 man, the tools are there I guess.
But attacking doors? Nah
8 man, the tools are there I guess.
But attacking doors? Nah
Wed 12 Aug 2020 6:20 AM
by
Noashakra
Tanks can stay more in rams and in mid two of the most grouped tanks climb walls and can disturb the defense...
Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:07 AM
by
Gildar
Noashakra wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:58 PM
We had the same problem for weeks around xmass, no rk, no keeps. I still logged and played.
True. Around xmas i log and our front was Red for a great part ... out BG war just 2 or 3 fg ... but we go out and fight to retake.
We rel many times ... but we fight on.
We dont give up like albs this days
Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:07 AM
by
Wakefield
Stunned pretty much as soon as you pop into the walls.
Then nuked to oblivion.
Not to mention the farmers field full of mushrooms that want a piece of your ass
Then nuked to oblivion.
Not to mention the farmers field full of mushrooms that want a piece of your ass
Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AM
by
swap89
taking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:35 AM
by
Wakefield
If I'm going to pve, I'd rather do a dragon raid.
Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:29 AM
by
gnefner
swap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AMtaking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
We tryed yesterday.. again.. But after spending 15 mins trying to get into a keep, And finally on Lord.. Hibs show up, again, with twice our numbers and just moc bomb lord room and top.., took about 20 secs for it all to be over..
Weeeeeee..
Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:33 AM
by
swap89
gnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:29 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AMtaking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
We tryed yesterday.. again.. But after spending 15 mins trying to get into a keep, And finally on Lord.. Hibs show up, again, with twice our numbers and just moc bomb lord room and top.., took about 20 secs for it all to be over..
Weeeeeee..
LOL i moc u on lord...but it's the game...next time we put red carpet down inf front of keep ad we'll watch u take it...bha
Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:44 AM
by
Stoertebecker
gnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:29 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AMtaking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
We tryed yesterday.. again.. But after spending 15 mins trying to get into a keep, And finally on Lord.. Hibs show up, again, with twice our numbers and just moc bomb lord room and top.., took about 20 secs for it all to be over..
Weeeeeee..
You mean Nottmoor? It isn`t the Hibs fault if Mids are to dumb to fill the rams. The 2nd Door took forever. That was exactly the time we missed at the Lord, just 30 fakkn seconds. Noone scouting the area around, the Hib-Inc message came as they were on the first gate.
Most of the problems in Midgard are selfmade, but it is indeed easier to blame the Hibs.
Wed 12 Aug 2020 10:36 AM
by
gnefner
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:44 AMgnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:29 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AMtaking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
We tryed yesterday.. again.. But after spending 15 mins trying to get into a keep, And finally on Lord.. Hibs show up, again, with twice our numbers and just moc bomb lord room and top.., took about 20 secs for it all to be over..
Weeeeeee..
You mean Nottmoor? It isn`t the Hibs fault if Mids are to dumb to fill the rams. The 2nd Door took forever. That was exactly the time we missed at the Lord, just 30 fakkn seconds. Noone scouting the area around, the Hib-Inc message came as they were on the first gate.
Most of the problems in Midgard are selfmade, but it is indeed easier to blame the Hibs.
Pretty sure there was 3 full rams on the door.. I sure as hell couldn't get in one, so they must've been
I'm not blaming Hib, as a realm.. this is a case im imbalance, adn the fact that numbers just favour Hibs, that's it really. And with every damn caster on Hib having some sort of aoe (bombs mostly) When we get hit by superiour numbers, it's very.. Very difficult. And ofoucrse they show up, to retake a MID keep, in MID.. with wich they've done nothing.. Other then retake, reclaim.. and then run of again
Wed 12 Aug 2020 10:38 AM
by
gnefner
swap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:33 AMgnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:29 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AMtaking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
We tryed yesterday.. again.. But after spending 15 mins trying to get into a keep, And finally on Lord.. Hibs show up, again, with twice our numbers and just moc bomb lord room and top.., took about 20 secs for it all to be over..
Weeeeeee..
LOL i moc u on lord...but it's the game...next time we put red carpet down inf front of keep ad we'll watch u take it...bha
Rr just let ½ your numbers retake our own damn keeps, insead of flying in full force..
No point in you having Nottmoor to be honest
I'm just saying.. You're complaining about none or bad action, but you have no problem destroying the little action there is, in a matter of seconds. To each their own I guess
Wed 12 Aug 2020 1:25 PM
by
Gildar
gnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 10:38 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:33 AMgnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:29 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AMtaking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
We tryed yesterday.. again.. But after spending 15 mins trying to get into a keep, And finally on Lord.. Hibs show up, again, with twice our numbers and just moc bomb lord room and top.., took about 20 secs for it all to be over..
Weeeeeee..
LOL i moc u on lord...but it's the game...next time we put red carpet down inf front of keep ad we'll watch u take it...bha
Rr just let ½ your numbers retake our own damn keeps, insead of flying in full force..
I'm just saying.. You're complaining about none or bad action, but you have no problem destroying the little action there is, in a matter of seconds. To each their own I guess
This is true sadly ... pointless kill all effort to retake.
Wed 12 Aug 2020 4:22 PM
by
Lokkjim
swap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:33 AMgnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:29 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AMtaking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
We tryed yesterday.. again.. But after spending 15 mins trying to get into a keep, And finally on Lord.. Hibs show up, again, with twice our numbers and just moc bomb lord room and top.., took about 20 secs for it all to be over..
Weeeeeee..
LOL i moc u on lord...but it's the game...next time we put red carpet down inf front of keep ad we'll watch u take it...bha
I think you missed the part where he said twice the amount of mids showed up. I don't think he minds the fact that they got ajed on the lord, heck it happens to everyone once in a while. But what's the point of taking a keep back when hibs can attack it with twice the number? Yes it might be possible to defend a keep with less people but there's a point where numbers are overwhelming and the amount of AoE stops a good defense. Especially with the amount of rangers hibs always have in their zergs.
Thu 13 Aug 2020 8:40 AM
by
Stoertebecker
gnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 10:36 AMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:44 AMgnefner wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 9:29 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:28 AMtaking a keep defended by many midds is hard ... if you keep cy with twf and ball and with AOE STUN it's hard to get in .... i don't think it's the problem of hib single stun ahaha ... you are sticking to everything. ..you want to upset the classes because you are not able to organize yourself all together and do something decent
We tryed yesterday.. again.. But after spending 15 mins trying to get into a keep, And finally on Lord.. Hibs show up, again, with twice our numbers and just moc bomb lord room and top.., took about 20 secs for it all to be over..
Weeeeeee..
You mean Nottmoor? It isn`t the Hibs fault if Mids are to dumb to fill the rams. The 2nd Door took forever. That was exactly the time we missed at the Lord, just 30 fakkn seconds. Noone scouting the area around, the Hib-Inc message came as they were on the first gate.
Most of the problems in Midgard are selfmade, but it is indeed easier to blame the Hibs.
Pretty sure there was 3 full rams on the door.. I sure as hell couldn't get in one, so they must've been
I'm not blaming Hib, as a realm.. this is a case im imbalance, adn the fact that numbers just favour Hibs, that's it really. And with every damn caster on Hib having some sort of aoe (bombs mostly) When we get hit by superiour numbers, it's very.. Very difficult. And ofoucrse they show up, to retake a MID keep, in MID.. with wich they've done nothing.. Other then retake, reclaim.. and then run of again
Yep sure, the last minute the rams were full, what with the other 5-10 mins at the door? Siege buffs in each ram etcetc? Organisation is the key, and Midgard has no organisation atm
THe Hibs were in Alb at Berksted, they had no port to Mid so they had to run and take boats, and we were not able to break the 2nd gate and the keeplord in this time.
INC!!! HIB BG is here! Where? Already inside!!
It isn`t working without ppl that do some scouting and give a shit about this 500-1k rp`s for a keeptake, not against twice the own numbers.
Be quick or be dead. Some smartness could even help...like scouting the area widely, not just around the keep. But the greeeeeed for rp`s .....
Or like yesterday, Hibs in Alb again. And Mid? Helping the Hibs to make Albion a Hib-colony instead of causing some trouble in Hib.
* The towers are such a high level in Hib .....* I mean...wtf?
Thu 13 Aug 2020 1:48 PM
by
Valaraukar
Noashakra wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 4:58 PMDon't listen to dark Templars, they will find all the excuses in the world to justify their flag Zerg.
OMG, guy listen.. I'll tell you for yourself: you are making yourself ridiculous. In the last months we could just put up 1FG in prime time, you know it's Summer and summer is quite good here in Italy, and no one wants to stay at home.
So please, be good to yourself first and STOP repeating such enormous pile of shit about us. Maybe try to partecipate to the discussion in a positive way, but I know that it would be asking too much to one such as you.
Then in September you'll be able to talk again, maybe after we zerged you over and over, because be assured that as soon as possible I'll make every effort to zerg you and only you, for your own pleasure
Thu 13 Aug 2020 2:01 PM
by
Stoertebecker
Valaraukar wrote: ↑Thu 13 Aug 2020 1:48 PMNoashakra wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 4:58 PMDon't listen to dark Templars, they will find all the excuses in the world to justify their flag Zerg.
Then in September you'll be able to talk again, maybe after we zerged you over and over, because be assured that as soon as possible I'll make every effort to zerg you and only you, for your own pleasure
Don`t wanna kill the pointe, but afaik he is playing Mid...
Thu 13 Aug 2020 2:26 PM
by
Valaraukar
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Thu 13 Aug 2020 2:01 PMValaraukar wrote: ↑Thu 13 Aug 2020 1:48 PMNoashakra wrote: ↑Tue 11 Aug 2020 4:58 PMDon't listen to dark Templars, they will find all the excuses in the world to justify their flag Zerg.
Then in September you'll be able to talk again, maybe after we zerged you over and over, because be assured that as soon as possible I'll make every effort to zerg you and only you, for your own pleasure
Don`t wanna kill the pointe, but afaik he is playing Mid...
It would be a good point to reroll on Hib now
Thu 13 Aug 2020 5:59 PM
by
Noashakra
Don't worry bro, I am playing solo, zerging me is what every group does when they find me fighting 99.99% of the time. I don't know what you can do to zerg me more.
And Maxistoo will follow every small man to the end of the map anyway.
And Maxistoo will follow every small man to the end of the map anyway.
Thu 13 Aug 2020 6:46 PM
by
Gildar
Mids and DT in particular ... Now you see how many times write ridicolous excuses to justify YOUR FAIL ????
Pilz and Smap rerolled Mid and ... mids took immediately a keep in Hib ... also with your brokern classes of tank against the OP Hib casters...
Pilz have some magic power i guess ... He can play a BG where DT and all mids cant .. go learn to play pls
Pilz show your shit ... Now pls silence all in shame.
Thx
Pilz and Smap rerolled Mid and ... mids took immediately a keep in Hib ... also with your brokern classes of tank against the OP Hib casters...
Pilz have some magic power i guess ... He can play a BG where DT and all mids cant
.. go learn to play pls
Pilz show your shit ... Now pls silence all in shame.
Thx
Thu 13 Aug 2020 6:51 PM
by
Noashakra
What is going to be the excuse now?
https://ibb.co/rxqXDrH
https://ibb.co/rxqXDrH
Fri 14 Aug 2020 12:21 AM
by
Wakefield
60 less mids in FZ, so they are doing the pve stuff?
Fri 14 Aug 2020 12:29 AM
by
Wakefield
And probably 80+ afk in uppland.
The relic towns should be taken out of the /u and get a REAL number for rvr
The relic towns should be taken out of the /u and get a REAL number for rvr
Fri 14 Aug 2020 2:38 AM
by
Johny Rousquille
or Port in svasu after 5/10/15 min afk
Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:44 AM
by
inoeth
who is pilz on mid btw?
Fri 14 Aug 2020 11:59 AM
by
Stoertebecker
Would like to know that too, before he gets accidently invited to a guild within the ally.
Fri 14 Aug 2020 12:41 PM
by
Gildar
Pilzbone ... and he found a guild with Smap and some smaragdgarde rerolling
GL with Pilz ... Now we see the truth
GL with Pilz ... Now we see the truth
Fri 14 Aug 2020 3:30 PM
by
Wakefield
Pilz does realise that the 50% rp bonus only applies to killing people?
Not for keep takes
Not for keep takes
Fri 14 Aug 2020 8:55 PM
by
Wakefield
Doesnt mean I will follow him.
I can see where this is gonna happen, the rp bonus will flip over to Hib and all the rerollers and hoppers will be straight back over to whoever's has the bonus.
It doesnt encourage loyalty at all, like the relics dont.
Fri 14 Aug 2020 9:01 PM
by
Tyrlaan
Hardly. Pilzboner and his Smaga posse may be PvEing keeps and towers as Mids now since there is less of a Hib zerg which he would otherwise lead. And he´s not attacking any of the many Hib keeps with relics. Realmmate harhar. And healthy RvR indeed. This is ridiculous and hardly proving a point.
Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:09 PM
by
Gildar
Tyrlaan wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 9:01 PM
Hardly. Pilzboner and his Smaga posse may be PvEing keeps and towers as Mids now since there is less of a Hib zerg which he would otherwise lead. And he´s not attacking any of the many Hib keeps with relics. Realmmate harhar. And healthy RvR indeed. This is ridiculous and hardly proving a point.
This evening Pilz lead your blue BG ahahahahah
Your Realm follow ... /clap all .... all turn tail and follow Pilz forgetting your pride ahahahahah
Now Hib is the underpop Realm as usual ... but no problem, we are mens and we fight on .... and dont come here whining and crying about Hib die
Maybe you learn something too
Sry ... But i cant stop lolling 😂😂😂
Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:14 PM
by
Kwall0311
Hib is underpop? You sound mad some people left. The current numbers at the time if your post are 123A 165M 191H in the fz. Lmao
Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:17 PM
by
Stoertebecker
Gildar wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:09 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 9:01 PM
Hardly. Pilzboner and his Smaga posse may be PvEing keeps and towers as Mids now since there is less of a Hib zerg which he would otherwise lead. And he´s not attacking any of the many Hib keeps with relics. Realmmate harhar. And healthy RvR indeed. This is ridiculous and hardly proving a point.
This evening Pilz lead your blue BG ahahahahah
Your Realm follow ... /clap all .... all turn tail and follow Pilz forgetting your pride ahahahahah
Now Hib is the underpop Realm as usual ... but no problem, we are mens and we fight on .... and dont come here whining and crying about Hib die
Maybe you learn something top
But i cant stop lolling 😂😂😂
Even my Ally was running with 3 fg afk braindead knocking wood since we`re lacking a calm ally rvr leader this evening.
As a shaman you go where your group goes, or ld out, nah, not my style. So i had the most boring evening in weeks.
Last word about this isn`t spoken, going to cut some balls tomorrow.
What a shame....
I`d rather quit than following a realm hopper. Return of Reckoning is a nice replacement.
Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:36 PM
by
Tyrlaan
Gildar wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:09 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 9:01 PM
Hardly. Pilzboner and his Smaga posse may be PvEing keeps and towers as Mids now since there is less of a Hib zerg which he would otherwise lead. And he´s not attacking any of the many Hib keeps with relics. Realmmate harhar. And healthy RvR indeed. This is ridiculous and hardly proving a point.
This evening Pilz lead your blue BG ahahahahah
Your Realm follow ... /clap all .... all turn tail and follow Pilz forgetting your pride ahahahahah
Now Hib is the underpop Realm as usual ... but no problem, we are mens and we fight on .... and dont come here whining and crying about Hib die
Maybe you learn something too
Sry ... But i cant stop lolling 😂😂😂
No it didn´t follow. That was for the most part just a BG full of realm hoppers. It was about time Pilzboner started in another realm so he can PvE keeps and towers back to maximize his RP rewards for when maps have been painted green previously.
"Hib is the underpop Realm as usual" ??? Just how delusional can somebody be - simple minds are easy to entertain, I guess.
Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:11 AM
by
Nidd
Pilz bg is still in warm up mode. We are untemped and rr3. So np. Saying that i cant remember the last time mid had 3 keeps in hib prime time.
Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:27 AM
by
Wakefield
Hopping isn't healthy for the server.
It just encourages those who stay on one realm, like it used to be on live, to quit.
Uthgard had 48 hour switch, so you had groups who would flip every keep, wait 48 hours, switch and flip them back.
60 players on a Friday/Sarturday night is not what I see as DAOC.
Yes I played Hib and Alb to fulfil my pve goals which I never did on live. Still 2 things I want to do, which is Gala and the Sidi dragon at some point, but here Mid is my home.
Hell, even I dragged my ass out of retirement to help. I'm quite content just to pve and craft, selling my stuff for cost just to help those who DO want to attempt to face the beast which is/was the Hib zerg.
Gio/Pilz did not help the situation when Hib had 5 relics and the remaining one was tucked away in Snowdonia. So where did Pilz bring his bg? Mid.
Where did Gio take his BG. Bearing in mind he could have got one of his relics back as it was sat in Nged? Mid.
Bullying a weaker realm and pveing doors seems to be how it is and made a lot of people think, "ah fuck it, why retake anything and let them have it"
It just encourages those who stay on one realm, like it used to be on live, to quit.
Uthgard had 48 hour switch, so you had groups who would flip every keep, wait 48 hours, switch and flip them back.
60 players on a Friday/Sarturday night is not what I see as DAOC.
Yes I played Hib and Alb to fulfil my pve goals which I never did on live. Still 2 things I want to do, which is Gala and the Sidi dragon at some point, but here Mid is my home.
Hell, even I dragged my ass out of retirement to help. I'm quite content just to pve and craft, selling my stuff for cost just to help those who DO want to attempt to face the beast which is/was the Hib zerg.
Gio/Pilz did not help the situation when Hib had 5 relics and the remaining one was tucked away in Snowdonia. So where did Pilz bring his bg? Mid.
Where did Gio take his BG. Bearing in mind he could have got one of his relics back as it was sat in Nged? Mid.
Bullying a weaker realm and pveing doors seems to be how it is and made a lot of people think, "ah fuck it, why retake anything and let them have it"
Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:35 AM
by
Helwyr
Overall Hib is underpopulated lately relative to the other two realms. The fact Alb and Mid have way more PvEing than out RvR relative to Hib is just again another problem with the players of those realms, not a balance issue. As I post this Mid leads with 302, followed by Alb with 274, and finally Hib with just 234.Kwall0311 wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:14 PMHib is underpop? You sound mad some people left. The current numbers at the time if your post are 123A 165M 191H in the fz. Lmao
Tue 18 Aug 2020 3:13 PM
by
DinoTriz
Me yesterday: "Ah man, look at all this green kill spam...."
*loads up Amon Amarth playlist on Spotify*
SEND ME TO VALHALLA!!!!!
(we successfully defended Arv Keep against a massive Hib BG)
*loads up Amon Amarth playlist on Spotify*
SEND ME TO VALHALLA!!!!!
(we successfully defended Arv Keep against a massive Hib BG)
Tue 18 Aug 2020 3:19 PM
by
Sepplord
Helwyr wrote: ↑Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:35 AMOverall Hib is underpopulated lately relative to the other two realms. The fact Alb and Mid have way more PvEing than out RvR relative to Hib is just again another problem with the players of those realms, not a balance issue. As I post this Mid leads with 302, followed by Alb with 274, and finally Hib with just 234.Kwall0311 wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:14 PMHib is underpop? You sound mad some people left. The current numbers at the time if your post are 123A 165M 191H in the fz. Lmao
that's just arguing tomeito / tomahto though, imo
Realmbalance is about playernumbers in RvR. It doesn't matter if a realm has too few players, or just too few players that participate in RvR.
I can't comment if there is an actual problem, but my gut tells me, if one realm has significantly less players overall that can be an issue. If one realm has significantly less players participating in RvR DESPITE having more than enough players then that sounds like an even bigger issue
Tue 18 Aug 2020 3:25 PM
by
Wakefield
Sepplord wrote: ↑Tue 18 Aug 2020 3:19 PMHelwyr wrote: ↑Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:35 AMOverall Hib is underpopulated lately relative to the other two realms. The fact Alb and Mid have way more PvEing than out RvR relative to Hib is just again another problem with the players of those realms, not a balance issue. As I post this Mid leads with 302, followed by Alb with 274, and finally Hib with just 234.Kwall0311 wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:14 PMHib is underpop? You sound mad some people left. The current numbers at the time if your post are 123A 165M 191H in the fz. Lmao
that's just arguing tomeito / tomahto though, imo
Realmbalance is about playernumbers in RvR. It doesn't matter if a realm has too few players, or just too few players that participate in RvR.
I can't comment if there is an actual problem, but my gut tells me, if one realm has significantly less players overall that can be an issue. If one realm has significantly less players participating in RvR DESPITE having more than enough players then that sounds like an even bigger issue
Why bother turning out to rvr and get steamrolled when you can achieve stuff elsewhere?
It's either that or just not log on at all. And when get into the habit of not logging in as you found something else....
Tue 18 Aug 2020 4:51 PM
by
Helwyr
Sepplord wrote: ↑Tue 18 Aug 2020 3:19 PMHelwyr wrote: ↑Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:35 AMOverall Hib is underpopulated lately relative to the other two realms. The fact Alb and Mid have way more PvEing than out RvR relative to Hib is just again another problem with the players of those realms, not a balance issue. As I post this Mid leads with 302, followed by Alb with 274, and finally Hib with just 234.Kwall0311 wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:14 PMHib is underpop? You sound mad some people left. The current numbers at the time if your post are 123A 165M 191H in the fz. Lmao
that's just arguing tomeito / tomahto though, imo
Realmbalance is about playernumbers in RvR. It doesn't matter if a realm has too few players, or just too few players that participate in RvR.
I can't comment if there is an actual problem, but my gut tells me, if one realm has significantly less players overall that can be an issue. If one realm has significantly less players participating in RvR DESPITE having more than enough players then that sounds like an even bigger issue
Well there is an issue, it's pretty clear what it is from numerous comments from Mid players. The problem is Mid is dominated by players that ignore the RvR game in favor of roaming 8 man group play. DAoC has long suffered from a toxic subculture built around pre-made 8 man groups, and for reasons I could only speculate Mid has the lions share of these types of players. So I imagine there's a bunch of RvR focused Mids out PvEing simply because there is no BG they can follow around in NF and they struggle to get an invite to a group because they don't fit the exact class and spec desired or won't go on voice chat with a bunch of ultra toxic people. In contrast Hibernia almost always has a BG running in EU time and early NA time where everyone is welcome, including maybe a third of the BG that is tagging along on Realm speed in partial groups or solo. So the problem as has been stated numerous times isn't one of Realm balance due to mechanics but contrasting player mentality on different realms. Yes you can still state that's a problem, but it's not a problem easily addressed by the Phoenix staff, nor one that will be fixed by just giving Midgard buffs over the other realms.
Tue 18 Aug 2020 7:18 PM
by
DinoTriz
Helwyr wrote: ↑Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:35 AMWell there is an issue, it's pretty clear what it is from numerous comments from Mid players. The problem is Mid is dominated by players that ignore the RvR game in favor of roaming 8 man group play. DAoC has long suffered from a toxic subculture built around pre-made 8 man groups, and for reasons I could only speculate Mid has the lions share of these types of players. So I imagine there's a bunch of RvR focused Mids out PvEing simply because there is no BG they can follow around in NF and they struggle to get an invite to a group because they don't fit the exact class and spec desired or won't go on voice chat with a bunch of ultra toxic people. In contrast Hibernia almost always has a BG running in EU time and early NA time where everyone is welcome, including maybe a third of the BG that is tagging along on Realm speed in partial groups or solo. So the problem as has been stated numerous times isn't one of Realm balance due to mechanics but contrasting player mentality on different realms. Yes you can still state that's a problem, but it's not a problem easily addressed by the Phoenix staff, nor one that will be fixed by just giving Midgard buffs over the other realms.
To be fair, it seems to be improving lately.
There has usually always been a BG to join lately. Sometimes two.
Tue 18 Aug 2020 8:51 PM
by
Gildar
Helwyr wrote: ↑Tue 18 Aug 2020 4:51 PMSepplord wrote: ↑Tue 18 Aug 2020 3:19 PMHelwyr wrote: ↑Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:35 AMOverall Hib is underpopulated lately relative to the other two realms. The fact Alb and Mid have way more PvEing than out RvR relative to Hib is just again another problem with the players of those realms, not a balance issue. As I post this Mid leads with 302, followed by Alb with 274, and finally Hib with just 234.Kwall0311 wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:14 PMHib is underpop? You sound mad some people left. The current numbers at the time if your post are 123A 165M 191H in the fz. Lmao
that's just arguing tomeito / tomahto though, imo
Realmbalance is about playernumbers in RvR. It doesn't matter if a realm has too few players, or just too few players that participate in RvR.
I can't comment if there is an actual problem, but my gut tells me, if one realm has significantly less players overall that can be an issue. If one realm has significantly less players participating in RvR DESPITE having more than enough players then that sounds like an even bigger issue
Well there is an issue, it's pretty clear what it is from numerous comments from Mid players. The problem is Mid is dominated by players that ignore the RvR game in favor of roaming 8 man group play. DAoC has long suffered from a toxic subculture built around pre-made 8 man groups ...
. In contrast Hibernia almost always has a BG running in EU time and early NA time where everyone is welcome, including maybe a third of the BG that is tagging along on Realm speed in partial groups or solo. So the problem as has been stated numerous times isn't one of Realm balance due to mechanics but contrasting player mentality on different realms. Yes you can still state that's a problem, but it's not a problem easily addressed by the Phoenix staff, nor one that will be fixed by just giving Midgard buffs over the other realms.
Green underline is the truth.
I dont know how things go in Mid but in Hib things are like you have said.
Sun 23 Aug 2020 3:09 PM
by
Freakzilla
Helwyr wrote: ↑Tue 18 Aug 2020 4:51 PMSepplord wrote: ↑Tue 18 Aug 2020 3:19 PMHelwyr wrote: ↑Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:35 AMOverall Hib is underpopulated lately relative to the other two realms. The fact Alb and Mid have way more PvEing than out RvR relative to Hib is just again another problem with the players of those realms, not a balance issue. As I post this Mid leads with 302, followed by Alb with 274, and finally Hib with just 234.Kwall0311 wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:14 PMHib is underpop? You sound mad some people left. The current numbers at the time if your post are 123A 165M 191H in the fz. Lmao
that's just arguing tomeito / tomahto though, imo
Realmbalance is about playernumbers in RvR. It doesn't matter if a realm has too few players, or just too few players that participate in RvR.
I can't comment if there is an actual problem, but my gut tells me, if one realm has significantly less players overall that can be an issue. If one realm has significantly less players participating in RvR DESPITE having more than enough players then that sounds like an even bigger issue
Well there is an issue, it's pretty clear what it is from numerous comments from Mid players. The problem is Mid is dominated by players that ignore the RvR game in favor of roaming 8 man group play. DAoC has long suffered from a toxic subculture built around pre-made 8 man groups, and for reasons I could only speculate Mid has the lions share of these types of players. So I imagine there's a bunch of RvR focused Mids out PvEing simply because there is no BG they can follow around in NF and they struggle to get an invite to a group because they don't fit the exact class and spec desired or won't go on voice chat with a bunch of ultra toxic people. In contrast Hibernia almost always has a BG running in EU time and early NA time where everyone is welcome, including maybe a third of the BG that is tagging along on Realm speed in partial groups or solo. So the problem as has been stated numerous times isn't one of Realm balance due to mechanics but contrasting player mentality on different realms. Yes you can still state that's a problem, but it's not a problem easily addressed by the Phoenix staff, nor one that will be fixed by just giving Midgard buffs over the other realms.
^^^^^^^^ this^^^^^^^^^
Sun 23 Aug 2020 3:55 PM
by
Freedomcall
Freakzilla wrote: ↑Sun 23 Aug 2020 3:09 PMHelwyr wrote: ↑Tue 18 Aug 2020 4:51 PMSepplord wrote: ↑Tue 18 Aug 2020 3:19 PMHelwyr wrote: ↑Sat 15 Aug 2020 12:35 AMOverall Hib is underpopulated lately relative to the other two realms. The fact Alb and Mid have way more PvEing than out RvR relative to Hib is just again another problem with the players of those realms, not a balance issue. As I post this Mid leads with 302, followed by Alb with 274, and finally Hib with just 234.Kwall0311 wrote: ↑Fri 14 Aug 2020 10:14 PMHib is underpop? You sound mad some people left. The current numbers at the time if your post are 123A 165M 191H in the fz. Lmao
that's just arguing tomeito / tomahto though, imo
Realmbalance is about playernumbers in RvR. It doesn't matter if a realm has too few players, or just too few players that participate in RvR.
I can't comment if there is an actual problem, but my gut tells me, if one realm has significantly less players overall that can be an issue. If one realm has significantly less players participating in RvR DESPITE having more than enough players then that sounds like an even bigger issue
Well there is an issue, it's pretty clear what it is from numerous comments from Mid players. The problem is Mid is dominated by players that ignore the RvR game in favor of roaming 8 man group play. DAoC has long suffered from a toxic subculture built around pre-made 8 man groups, and for reasons I could only speculate Mid has the lions share of these types of players. So I imagine there's a bunch of RvR focused Mids out PvEing simply because there is no BG they can follow around in NF and they struggle to get an invite to a group because they don't fit the exact class and spec desired or won't go on voice chat with a bunch of ultra toxic people. In contrast Hibernia almost always has a BG running in EU time and early NA time where everyone is welcome, including maybe a third of the BG that is tagging along on Realm speed in partial groups or solo. So the problem as has been stated numerous times isn't one of Realm balance due to mechanics but contrasting player mentality on different realms. Yes you can still state that's a problem, but it's not a problem easily addressed by the Phoenix staff, nor one that will be fixed by just giving Midgard buffs over the other realms.
^^^^^^^^ this^^^^^^^^^
This could have been true if it were last year, but PvE number INDEED doesn't represent any player base number anymore.
You see, people had to wait 4 hours offline if they wanted to change the realm before.
So after the PvE raid is over, the PvE number of the realm was expected to shift to the RvR number (e.g. after TG -> Mid BG)
But currently, ppl can log any realm anytime without any restriction.
The only restriction is that they are not able to go to RvR zone.
So, theoretically, if I am doing RvR in Hib and hear there is TG raid in mid, I can just log mid right away and participate that raid.
And when the raid is over, I can just come back to Hib and do RvR right away.
Participating TG as a hib is just as participating Galla cuz you can sell feather in Mid and transfer that plat to hib with /tradeorder.
So, say, even if mid has 500 players in total when hib has 300 players, that doesn't mean anything for the realm.
The only reliable number is the people actually in frontier, cuz those are the number who are locked for 4 hours.
(Well actually not all of them are locked unless they hit some enemy though)
Sun 23 Aug 2020 4:10 PM
by
Johny Rousquille
Even the average magos are reduced,
stop saying anything and come play on mid, like the bg attack relick of yesterday where we are constantly spied on by hibs who play on Mid or ALB,
and that the leader we do EVERYTHING that we can on mid and that we do not deserve any relic
Now talk to the moderator, if you continue this way, the server goes down in 1 month max :-) Enjoy !
stop saying anything and come play on mid, like the bg attack relick of yesterday where we are constantly spied on by hibs who play on Mid or ALB,
and that the leader we do EVERYTHING that we can on mid and that we do not deserve any relic
Now talk to the moderator, if you continue this way, the server goes down in 1 month max :-) Enjoy !
Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:27 AM
by
Gildar
Johny Rousquille wrote: ↑Sun 23 Aug 2020 4:10 PMEven the average magos are reduced,
stop saying anything and come play on mid, like the bg attack relick of yesterday where we are constantly spied on by hibs who play on Mid or ALB,
and that the leader we do EVERYTHING that we can on mid and that we do not deserve any relic
Now talk to the moderator, if you continue this way, the server goes down in 1 month max :-) Enjoy !
Sry no hib spies in mid BG ...
We got info by our rangers seeing your moves .... like all realms .....
Polemo constantly have 2 or 3 minstrels following our BG (and also your BG i guess) that gives him info about our moves.
An example ? Saturday night Gilboom BG was retaking Bolg tower by albs ... our rangers inform us that mid BG arriving near Bolg drop ... Gilboom wait a bit and after inc Mid BG on the edge between water and mountain .... Killing mid BG after 10 mins of hard fought battle ... sry no spy only organisation and correct infos .. and a good leadership that have the right timing for inc in advantage position
Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:59 AM
by
Messerjockel
Agree on that what hib rangers do.
DC is my main spot during NA prime.
If you arrive dc island, dock or bridge, after 15-30 seconds your presence is known through /region if solo, small man or FG with an estimate about your strength, maybe details about classes.
Flup, hib
DC is my main spot during NA prime.
If you arrive dc island, dock or bridge, after 15-30 seconds your presence is known through /region if solo, small man or FG with an estimate about your strength, maybe details about classes.
Flup, hib
Mon 24 Aug 2020 6:17 AM
by
Noashakra
Yeah this bg spy is the same conspiracy theory in all BG...
Yesterday I saw Polemo in the drop off of Bolg, I shared in region...
Yesterday I saw Polemo in the drop off of Bolg, I shared in region...
Mon 24 Aug 2020 7:19 AM
by
Gildar
Messerjockel wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:59 AMAgree on that what hib rangers do.
DC is my main spot during NA prime.
If you arrive dc island, dock or bridge, after 15-30 seconds your presence is known through /region if solo, small man or FG with an estimate about your strength, maybe details about classes.
Flup, hib
All rangers ( and ns also) do a great job for the realm giving so many infos on / Region
Thx all
Sat 29 Aug 2020 5:11 PM
by
Wakefield
6 relics again, no motivation from me anymore.
GJ guys, just as mid was starting to do stuff and get behind the newer bg leaders, this happens. Nicely played.
GJ guys, just as mid was starting to do stuff and get behind the newer bg leaders, this happens. Nicely played.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 5:46 PM
by
Nidd
Wakefield wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 5:11 PM6 relics again, no motivation from me anymore.
GJ guys, just as mid was starting to do stuff and get behind the newer bg leaders, this happens. Nicely played.
????
Yesterday mids were 50 strong in Alb Pennine, when hibs took all alb keeps and relics. Mids did flag task and did nothing.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:19 PM
by
Noashakra
Even when hib is under fire, they do flag tasks...
https://ibb.co/z72FJy0
QQ
https://ibb.co/z72FJy0
Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:33 PM
by
Tyrlaan
Have you ever considered that people could do flag tasks to not throw themselves at the Hib zerg?
Mid needs an upgrade to attract zerg players. There´s 1 good caster for ranged AE (RM), 1 good caster for PBAE (SM) then 3 with subpar versions of AE damage (Thanes and Shamans don´t benefit from acuity, BD has a lower delve AE DoT). And most of the good RAs are heaped on the BD so while an RR15 BD would be great, RMs are kinda SoL.
Meanwhile, Mana Elds (who get everything already, ranged AE, PBAE, GTAE, debuffs and stun nukes) get Ichor, Hib has ranged AE damage on 3 of its 4 casters, 2 PBAEs, the dreaded stun nukes and shrooms and their zerg RAs spread out between casters so everybody can get and contribute some (ST on Menta, NM on Ench and Animist, Ichor on Eld and Animist - I have yet to understand why Hib gets so many STs, Ichors and NMs compared to the other realms). Albs has 2 full delve AE DoTs, Earth Wizards and Necros (I absolutely hate the Necro exploits but that´s for another topic) and in general many more attractive casters due to their utility and synergy.
Mid needs an upgrade to attract zerg players. There´s 1 good caster for ranged AE (RM), 1 good caster for PBAE (SM) then 3 with subpar versions of AE damage (Thanes and Shamans don´t benefit from acuity, BD has a lower delve AE DoT). And most of the good RAs are heaped on the BD so while an RR15 BD would be great, RMs are kinda SoL.
Meanwhile, Mana Elds (who get everything already, ranged AE, PBAE, GTAE, debuffs and stun nukes) get Ichor, Hib has ranged AE damage on 3 of its 4 casters, 2 PBAEs, the dreaded stun nukes and shrooms and their zerg RAs spread out between casters so everybody can get and contribute some (ST on Menta, NM on Ench and Animist, Ichor on Eld and Animist - I have yet to understand why Hib gets so many STs, Ichors and NMs compared to the other realms). Albs has 2 full delve AE DoTs, Earth Wizards and Necros (I absolutely hate the Necro exploits but that´s for another topic) and in general many more attractive casters due to their utility and synergy.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:36 PM
by
Astaa
Mids can't be helped. Our BG leaders literally rerolled and were met by whining and disinterest.
Keep running 3fg flag tasks and 1fg gorge vs 35s though, you guys rock.
Keep running 3fg flag tasks and 1fg gorge vs 35s though, you guys rock.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:44 PM
by
Noashakra
mana eld GTAE... just no... it's void, so there are only one or two per bg max.
Look at my screen, hib was getting destroyed, and mid didn't help alb. And then you complain about RK???
Look at my screen, hib was getting destroyed, and mid didn't help alb. And then you complain about RK???
Sat 29 Aug 2020 8:30 PM
by
Tyrlaan
Noashakra wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:44 PMmana eld GTAE... just no... it's void, so there are only one or two per bg max.
Look at my screen, hib was getting destroyed, and mid didn't help alb. And then you complain about RK???
Mana Elds can subspec for GTAE. It´s extra cheap in Hib (lvl 16).
Mid isn´t supposed to help Alb or vice versa. If they do to combat the Hib pest, great. But ultimately, this is a 3 realm game and if 1 dominates so that it would always take the other 2 to cooperate, either Hib needs nerfs to their zerg or Mid needs boosts.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:00 PM
by
Messerjockel
Not sure how it is in alb and mid but in /region tons of intel is reported. We know more often than you think where you are and in what strength.
That is one of the reason why albs and mids running 8 or 16 quickly face double their numbers.
I see the intel in hib as a huge advantage.
Free advice : jump with your grp before the dropoff or you are reported 5 seconds after you left the boat.
Flup, hib.
That is one of the reason why albs and mids running 8 or 16 quickly face double their numbers.
I see the intel in hib as a huge advantage.
Free advice : jump with your grp before the dropoff or you are reported 5 seconds after you left the boat.
Flup, hib.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:03 PM
by
Noashakra
Tyrlaan wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 8:30 PMNoashakra wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:44 PMmana eld GTAE... just no... it's void, so there are only one or two per bg max.
Look at my screen, hib was getting destroyed, and mid didn't help alb. And then you complain about RK???
Mana Elds can subspec for GTAE. It´s extra cheap in Hib (lvl 16).
Mid isn´t supposed to help Alb or vice versa. If they do to combat the Hib pest, great. But ultimately, this is a 3 realm game and if 1 dominates so that it would always take the other 2 to cooperate, either Hib needs nerfs to their zerg or Mid needs boosts.
OMG, you play this game since when?
The 3 realms advantage vs a a game 2 realm is that the 2 underdogs CAN work together when the other is dominating...
Stop finding excuses.
And no decent eld mana will sub spec 16 void...
Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:09 PM
by
Wakefield
Astaa wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:36 PMMids can't be helped. Our BG leaders literally rerolled and were met by whining and disinterest.
Keep running 3fg flag tasks and 1fg gorge vs 35s though, you guys rock.
And instead of sticking at it like Johny and Ana do, they disappeared after 5 days...
Anyway, why should people throw themselves at superior numbers when there is clearly nothing to gain but people getting fed up at the situation and just log off.
I'm not putting the blame on the flaggers playstyle, but I can sure understand why they do it.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:45 PM
by
Siouxsie
Wakefield wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:09 PMAstaa wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:36 PMMids can't be helped. Our BG leaders literally rerolled and were met by whining and disinterest.
Keep running 3fg flag tasks and 1fg gorge vs 35s though, you guys rock.
And instead of sticking at it like Johny and Ana do, they disappeared after 5 days...
Anyway, why should people throw themselves at superior numbers when there is clearly nothing to gain but people getting fed up at the situation and just log off.
I'm not putting the blame on the flaggers playstyle, but I can sure understand why they do it.
Translation: "Why won't you Mids feed us RP and die over and over to our zerg? How very dare you do something else that isn't feeding us RP!"
You don't even necessarily need the numbers any more. A single hib group can lock up 2-3 mid groups in a BG. I saw it done today.
Hibs have so many CC tricks, and baseline stun-debuff-nuke trains that it's pointless to even trying to engage anymore.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:52 PM
by
Tyrlaan
Pilzpower just returned to easymode. He didn´t make much of a difference transplanting some of his followers to Mid (vs. a Hib zerg that remained strong without him, Narcism challenged) and bailed out. Understandable from a personal POV but still bad for server health.
Sat 29 Aug 2020 10:02 PM
by
Wakefield
Tyrlaan wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:52 PMPilzpower just returned to easymode. He didn´t make much of a difference transplanting some of his followers to Mid (vs. a Hib zerg that remained strong without him, Narcism challenged) and bailed out. Understandable from a personal POV but still bad for server health.
Well said.
Even I got behind Pilz, one thing I vowed would never do to see if it made server healthy again.
It didnt. And bailing after week left a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of Mids who like me, chose to follow him
Sat 29 Aug 2020 10:30 PM
by
Tyrlaan
I chose Alb at the time coz I neither wanted to join the Hib zerg nor the Pilzpower Mid zerg. However, I would have expected Pilzpower to reraid the relics when he got the chance to, not get all Hib keeps except those with a relic inside. Choose a team, play for the team (if this being a roleplaying game, i.e. you playing as if you were an inhabitant of Midgard not some basement dweller, isn´t enough reason for you). It was a few days later when he got 1 relic back. And then he left. He didn´t prove worthy to lead.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:31 AM
by
Ceseuron
Honestly, I've really only been playing so I can spend the time with some good folks I've met in the game and not because Phoenix is some fantastic DAOC utopia. It is only marginally better than DAOC Live, at this point, and the margin is steadily declining. I logged in just now and I see Pilz has spent the day PVE-ing empty keeps with no defenders and Hib has all the relics again. Phoenix devs have no interest in removing the incentive for this and no interest in removing the changes they've made to the game that inhibit the large scale RVR that DAOC has always been about and no interest in any meaningful game balance beyond throwing Midgard a small RP bonus for a few days due to being underpop, which I suppose was their way of saying "STFU" nicely?
Given what happened to DAOC Live, you'd think that there'd be lessons to be learned from about what happens when you take the original, winning formula that was classic DAOC RVR and start "improving" it into the ground. Unfortunately, it seems those lessons have largely gone unnoticed as Phoenix goes full steam ahead down the exact same path as DAOC Live. History, it seems, is destined to repeat itself.
C'est la vie, I suppose.
Given what happened to DAOC Live, you'd think that there'd be lessons to be learned from about what happens when you take the original, winning formula that was classic DAOC RVR and start "improving" it into the ground. Unfortunately, it seems those lessons have largely gone unnoticed as Phoenix goes full steam ahead down the exact same path as DAOC Live. History, it seems, is destined to repeat itself.
C'est la vie, I suppose.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:37 AM
by
Wakefield
Ceseuron wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:31 AMHonestly, I've really only been playing so I can spend the time with some good folks I've met in the game and not because Phoenix is some fantastic DAOC utopia. It is only marginally better than DAOC Live, at this point, and the margin is steadily declining. I logged in just now and I see Pilz has spent the day PVE-ing empty keeps with no defenders and Hib has all the relics again. Phoenix devs have no interest in removing the incentive for this and no interest in removing the changes they've made to the game that inhibit the large scale RVR that DAOC has always been about and no interest in any meaningful game balance beyond throwing Midgard a small RP bonus for a few days due to being underpop, which I suppose was their way of saying "STFU" nicely?
Given what happened to DAOC Live, you'd think that there'd be lessons to be learned from about what happens when you take the original, winning formula that was classic DAOC RVR and start "improving" it into the ground. Unfortunately, it seems those lessons have largely gone unnoticed as Phoenix goes full steam ahead down the exact same path as DAOC Live. History, it seems, is destined to repeat itself.
C'est la vie, I suppose.
Well said.
The rp bonus disappeared like a fart in the wind, possibly due to negative feedback from hib/alb.
It didnt really effect keep takes, it was more for the solos/small/8vs8 scene, which Mid has a lot of.
No incentive to zerg up, so those who play those styles didnt.
Back to the drawing board.
Destroyable keep walls and towers might even it out so Mid can have its tank forces deployed a bit better and therefore, even the playing field a little bit. As a mid player, I can see it working in a fashion.
But then maybe not, it will be moc bomb bomb lulz from the chanter zerg army.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 1:18 AM
by
Tyrlaan
Breached walls would just create more bottlenecks to throw AEs at or hold with PBAE/auto-RP-generating pets - and we all know which realm excels at it. While I liked some of the additions to NF (I bought many archers/healers/assassins for bps to defend a keep and buy time for the arrival of reinforcements; also an operated pallintone i.e. a single defender could actually destroy a ram before the door was broken thus delaying the take), some of them also brought odd tactics with them like placing siege weapons behind a tower so that they can´t be targetted or sieging towers and CKs to rubble only to conquer and rebuild them within 2 minutes.
Raiding a keep should definitely take longer so that it isn´t a quick way to earn RPs off guard tasks and strip a keep lord of its RPs and claws to sponsor new savagery pots before any considerable defense can arrive. The PvDoor zerg is only possible because it has such a high RPs/hour ratio by eating through doors so fast.
Raiding a keep should definitely take longer so that it isn´t a quick way to earn RPs off guard tasks and strip a keep lord of its RPs and claws to sponsor new savagery pots before any considerable defense can arrive. The PvDoor zerg is only possible because it has such a high RPs/hour ratio by eating through doors so fast.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 2:27 AM
by
Wakefield
Something needs to be done about rvr otherwise, like it has been said, it will just be a sea of green across the other two realms.
NF was good BUT everyone had access to ToA abilities which fit in to that, along with rr5 abilities.
NF on this setting benefits casters. Which screws Mid as it's been said, we have celerity.
Not great when you cant get close enough at a keep siege to do anything but whack doors/lord/guards.
8vs8, yea, but zerg vs zerg? No
NF was good BUT everyone had access to ToA abilities which fit in to that, along with rr5 abilities.
NF on this setting benefits casters. Which screws Mid as it's been said, we have celerity.
Not great when you cant get close enough at a keep siege to do anything but whack doors/lord/guards.
8vs8, yea, but zerg vs zerg? No
Sun 30 Aug 2020 4:05 AM
by
Nidd
Wakefield wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 10:02 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:52 PMPilzpower just returned to easymode. He didn´t make much of a difference transplanting some of his followers to Mid (vs. a Hib zerg that remained strong without him, Narcism challenged) and bailed out. Understandable from a personal POV but still bad for server health.
Well said.
Even I got behind Pilz, one thing I vowed would never do to see if it made server healthy again.
It didnt. And bailing after week left a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of Mids who like me, chose to follow him
We bailed out after mid decied it didn't want our help. 1 day after pilz took the alb str relic from hib pilz asked for the mid bg lead to change to him, he said no. That's fair. after we wpied for the second or third time due to bg lead errors, the bg leader stopped pilz asked again for the lead. Bg leader snubbed him gave it to someone else, after more errors and awful decisions pilz again asked for the bg lead and was told no and we are "hib spies" in the mid bg. So we logged out and went back to hib.
Mid has been dead after polemo left you. (you had the most powerful realm out of the 3 then) Its not the case of classes or RAs its about leaders and tactical decisions.
We would of had no chance of taking 3 keeps in alb yesterday if polemo was playing.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:17 AM
by
Forlornhope
Nidd wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 4:05 AMWakefield wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 10:02 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 9:52 PMPilzpower just returned to easymode. He didn´t make much of a difference transplanting some of his followers to Mid (vs. a Hib zerg that remained strong without him, Narcism challenged) and bailed out. Understandable from a personal POV but still bad for server health.
Well said.
Even I got behind Pilz, one thing I vowed would never do to see if it made server healthy again.
It didnt. And bailing after week left a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of Mids who like me, chose to follow him
We bailed out after mid decied it didn't want our help. 1 day after pilz took the alb str relic from hib pilz asked for the mid bg lead to change to him, he said no. That's fair. after we wpied for the second or third time due to bg lead errors, the bg leader stopped pilz asked again for the lead. Bg leader snubbed him gave it to someone else, after more errors and awful decisions pilz again asked for the bg lead and was told no and we are "hib spies" in the mid bg. So we logged out and went back to hib.
Mid has been dead after polemo left you. (you had the most powerful realm out of the 3 then) Its not the case of classes or RAs its about leaders and tactical decisions.
We would of had no chance of taking 3 keeps in alb yesterday if polemo was playing.
He should have left that bg and made his own, then those people who were fed up from the other leader's errors could have gone and joined him. He tried to do take the BG on blue sunday, if I remember right. Which is always run by the same two or three people. It's a realm event that a lot of mids have been doing for months. Walking in there and trying to take the bg lead from them would be like logging over to alb and trying to get Razyel to give you the lead of his sidi raid because you think you can do it better.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:34 AM
by
Johny Rousquille
Blablabla ... blablabla ... blablabla ... blablabla
we persist in playing an unbalanced game, last 4 week, after the game dead.
here it's like you're talking to a wall ...
Blablabla Pilzpower, blablabla 0 bg Leader on mid, but what a lack of respect for people who move their ass on MID ...
A story without end ....
we persist in playing an unbalanced game, last 4 week, after the game dead.
here it's like you're talking to a wall ...
Blablabla Pilzpower, blablabla 0 bg Leader on mid, but what a lack of respect for people who move their ass on MID ...
A story without end ....
Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:56 AM
by
Ceseuron
Nidd wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 4:05 AMWe bailed out after mid decied it didn't want our help. 1 day after pilz took the alb str relic from hib pilz asked for the mid bg lead to change to him, he said no. That's fair. after we wpied for the second or third time due to bg lead errors, the bg leader stopped pilz asked again for the lead. Bg leader snubbed him gave it to someone else, after more errors and awful decisions pilz again asked for the bg lead and was told no and we are "hib spies" in the mid bg. So we logged out and went back to hib.
Mid has been dead after polemo left you. (you had the most powerful realm out of the 3 then) Its not the case of classes or RAs its about leaders and tactical decisions.
We would of had no chance of taking 3 keeps in alb yesterday if polemo was playing.
There's no reason to mince words here. If you had been genuinely interested in helping Midgard, as you claimed, you would have stuck around to learn Midgard RVR mechanics, which is a fair bit more complex than the Hibernian tactics of facerolling across NF, taking empty keeps and mashing a few buttons in an occasional fight that you're used to. Moreover, if charity was actually on your mind, you'd have tried to work with the BG leaders instead of insisting that you saw "bg errors" and demanding that they hand over lead and get out of your way. I think pretty much everyone understands the basic "Pilzpower" method of bashing open gates on empty keeps and taking relics from undefended realms so I'm at a loss as to what you thought you were bringing to the table that was worth so much that Midgard BG leaders should just step aside and let you take over.
In the future, I recommend you re-evaluate your peculiar brand of charity before you set about trying to inflict it upon others.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AM
by
tommccartney
I have played Mid since server launch, it’s my home realm and has been for 15years. However, as of late I’ve gone to hib and now have a 50 Ani for PvE and now levelling an Eld for RvR. There is a massive difference between the two realms in terms of difficulty.
Hib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
RvR.
Hib has main CC and 204speed on one class, Bard.
For this mid needs Pac healer & Skald.
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
RM, SM, BD assist train can work, but it doesn’t compare.
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Static Tempest is on Thane, which no one groups. Hib has 2 static tempest.
Ichor is on 1 mid class, 3 Hib classes.
BG RvR
Hib has way more classes than can contribute. For example at keep defence, the bard can throw down some group heals if not CC, what can the Skald do ? If you take damage on hib there are 4 classes that can throw you a heal. It is a massive advantage in terms of survivability. IMAGINE on Mid; the 2 healers had 3 other classes than could assist in keeping people alive in keep defence ? Lol. 3 other classes that could throw a heal to recover from cata damage, volley damage, the odd crit shot, heal the random nuke someone just took, etc.
Hib casters will be dominating walls with base stun. Lord room battles Hib always dominates again.
Hell even Rangers and Nightshades are better than hunters/sb’s.
I could go on and on ... to conclude it is no surprise /rw is always green, and Hib always has all 6 relics. Hib is easier than Mid in PvE and RvR. I know moving to Hib is part of the problem and not the solution, but as a player I’m tired of playing on the losing squad, unable to find the right classes for even a smallman, Hib you grab Bard, Druid, some dps and off you go. It’s demoralising always trying to defend from hibs in BG keep take RvR, and ofc always 0 relics.
Hib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
RvR.
Hib has main CC and 204speed on one class, Bard.
For this mid needs Pac healer & Skald.
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
RM, SM, BD assist train can work, but it doesn’t compare.
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Static Tempest is on Thane, which no one groups. Hib has 2 static tempest.
Ichor is on 1 mid class, 3 Hib classes.
BG RvR
Hib has way more classes than can contribute. For example at keep defence, the bard can throw down some group heals if not CC, what can the Skald do ? If you take damage on hib there are 4 classes that can throw you a heal. It is a massive advantage in terms of survivability. IMAGINE on Mid; the 2 healers had 3 other classes than could assist in keeping people alive in keep defence ? Lol. 3 other classes that could throw a heal to recover from cata damage, volley damage, the odd crit shot, heal the random nuke someone just took, etc.
Hib casters will be dominating walls with base stun. Lord room battles Hib always dominates again.
Hell even Rangers and Nightshades are better than hunters/sb’s.
I could go on and on ... to conclude it is no surprise /rw is always green, and Hib always has all 6 relics. Hib is easier than Mid in PvE and RvR. I know moving to Hib is part of the problem and not the solution, but as a player I’m tired of playing on the losing squad, unable to find the right classes for even a smallman, Hib you grab Bard, Druid, some dps and off you go. It’s demoralising always trying to defend from hibs in BG keep take RvR, and ofc always 0 relics.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:16 AM
by
Valaraukar
tommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMI have played Mid since server launch, it’s my home realm and has been for 15years. However, as of late I’ve gone to hib and now have a 50 Ani for PvE and now levelling an Eld for RvR. There is a massive difference between the two realms in terms of difficulty.
Hib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
RvR.
Hib has main CC and 204speed on one class, Bard.
For this mid needs Pac healer & Skald.
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
RM, SM, BD assist train can work, but it doesn’t compare.
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Static Tempest is on Thane, which no one groups. Hib has 2 static tempest.
Ichor is on 1 mid class, 3 Hib classes.
BG RvR
Hib has way more classes than can contribute. For example at keep defence, the bard can throw down some group heals if not CC, what can the Skald do ? If you take damage on hib there are 4 classes that can throw you a heal. It is a massive advantage in terms of survivability. IMAGINE on Mid; the 2 healers had 3 other classes than could assist in keeping people alive in keep defence ? Lol. 3 other classes that could throw a heal to recover from cata damage, volley damage, the odd crit shot, heal the random nuke someone just took, etc.
Hib casters will be dominating walls with base stun. Lord room battles Hib always dominates again.
Hell even Rangers and Nightshades are better than hunters/sb’s.
I could go on and on ... to conclude it is no surprise /rw is always green, and Hib always has all 6 relics. Hib is easier than Mid in PvE and RvR. I know moving to Hib is part of the problem and not the solution, but as a player I’m tired of playing on the losing squad, unable to find the right classes for even a smallman, Hib you grab Bard, Druid, some dps and off you go. It’s demoralising always trying to defend from hibs in BG keep take RvR, and ofc always 0 relics.
OMG what have you done! Now every Hib on the server will get mad at you because you know, IT IS NOT A BALANCE ISSUE, it's all about tactics and BG leadership
Don't ever tell Hibs that they are easy-mode here, it drives them crazy!
Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:30 AM
by
Siouxsie
tommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMI have played Mid since server launch, it’s my home realm and has been for 15years. However, as of late I’ve gone to hib and now have a 50 Ani for PvE and now levelling an Eld for RvR. There is a massive difference between the two realms in terms of difficulty.
Hib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
RvR.
Hib has main CC and 204speed on one class, Bard.
For this mid needs Pac healer & Skald.
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
RM, SM, BD assist train can work, but it doesn’t compare.
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Static Tempest is on Thane, which no one groups. Hib has 2 static tempest.
Ichor is on 1 mid class, 3 Hib classes.
BG RvR
Hib has way more classes than can contribute. For example at keep defence, the bard can throw down some group heals if not CC, what can the Skald do ? If you take damage on hib there are 4 classes that can throw you a heal. It is a massive advantage in terms of survivability. IMAGINE on Mid; the 2 healers had 3 other classes than could assist in keeping people alive in keep defence ? Lol. 3 other classes that could throw a heal to recover from cata damage, volley damage, the odd crit shot, heal the random nuke someone just took, etc.
Hib casters will be dominating walls with base stun. Lord room battles Hib always dominates again.
Hell even Rangers and Nightshades are better than hunters/sb’s.
I could go on and on ... to conclude it is no surprise /rw is always green, and Hib always has all 6 relics. Hib is easier than Mid in PvE and RvR. I know moving to Hib is part of the problem and not the solution, but as a player I’m tired of playing on the losing squad, unable to find the right classes for even a smallman, Hib you grab Bard, Druid, some dps and off you go. It’s demoralising always trying to defend from hibs in BG keep take RvR, and ofc always 0 relics.
Bravo! Well said!
This is exactly what I am getting at.
Hibs want to continue to have easy mode, while Mids continue to struggle.
The changes made to the game here have only exacerbated the problems you outlined above.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:29 AM
by
Gildar
Valaraukar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:16 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMI have played Mid since server launch, it’s my home realm and has been for 15years. However, as of late I’ve gone to hib and now have a 50 Ani for PvE and now levelling an Eld for RvR. There is a massive difference between the two realms in terms of difficulty.
Hib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
RvR.
Hib has main CC and 204speed on one class, Bard.
For this mid needs Pac healer & Skald.
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
RM, SM, BD assist train can work, but it doesn’t compare.
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Static Tempest is on Thane, which no one groups. Hib has 2 static tempest.
Ichor is on 1 mid class, 3 Hib classes.
BG RvR
Hib has way more classes than can contribute. For example at keep defence, the bard can throw down some group heals if not CC, what can the Skald do ? If you take damage on hib there are 4 classes that can throw you a heal. It is a massive advantage in terms of survivability. IMAGINE on Mid; the 2 healers had 3 other classes than could assist in keeping people alive in keep defence ? Lol. 3 other classes that could throw a heal to recover from cata damage, volley damage, the odd crit shot, heal the random nuke someone just took, etc.
Hib casters will be dominating walls with base stun. Lord room battles Hib always dominates again.
Hell even Rangers and Nightshades are better than hunters/sb’s.
I could go on and on ... to conclude it is no surprise /rw is always green, and Hib always has all 6 relics. Hib is easier than Mid in PvE and RvR. I know moving to Hib is part of the problem and not the solution, but as a player I’m tired of playing on the losing squad, unable to find the right classes for even a smallman, Hib you grab Bard, Druid, some dps and off you go. It’s demoralising always trying to defend from hibs in BG keep take RvR, and ofc always 0 relics.
OMG what have you done! Now every Hib on the server will get mad at you because you know, IT IS NOT A BALANCE ISSUE, it's all about tactics and BG leadership
Don't ever tell Hibs that they are easy-mode here, it drives them crazy!
i don't mean that what tommccartney wrote is wrong .... but i really want to discuss the problem.
on Hib the pve is quite simple, but it is also on alb, I don't know on mid, but if to solve the situation just change the pve ... no problem at all for me ..
RvR: I think the real problem lies here.
And even if i want to believe what you Mids say ... one question remains unanswered ... how did Pilz get 3 keep a Hib (Hib BG was on defending) and also 1 relic ???
pilz would also have taken 2 if someone hadn't reset the lord to 5% in Ailinne ....
how could Pilz do this if, as you say here, it is impossible to win with Mid in RvR?
Just asking .... I hope for a serious answer and not with the usual insults or irony.
thank you
Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:35 AM
by
Johny Rousquille
the time of a tusca is endless, make tusca low difficulty 3 hour if you are 100 ... i don't count the time for loot distrib
the same in pve, it's not balancing
#A story without end
the same in pve, it's not balancing
#A story without end
Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:44 AM
by
tommccartney
Gildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:29 AMValaraukar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:16 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMI have played Mid since server launch, it’s my home realm and has been for 15years. However, as of late I’ve gone to hib and now have a 50 Ani for PvE and now levelling an Eld for RvR. There is a massive difference between the two realms in terms of difficulty.
Hib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
RvR.
Hib has main CC and 204speed on one class, Bard.
For this mid needs Pac healer & Skald.
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
RM, SM, BD assist train can work, but it doesn’t compare.
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Static Tempest is on Thane, which no one groups. Hib has 2 static tempest.
Ichor is on 1 mid class, 3 Hib classes.
BG RvR
Hib has way more classes than can contribute. For example at keep defence, the bard can throw down some group heals if not CC, what can the Skald do ? If you take damage on hib there are 4 classes that can throw you a heal. It is a massive advantage in terms of survivability. IMAGINE on Mid; the 2 healers had 3 other classes than could assist in keeping people alive in keep defence ? Lol. 3 other classes that could throw a heal to recover from cata damage, volley damage, the odd crit shot, heal the random nuke someone just took, etc.
Hib casters will be dominating walls with base stun. Lord room battles Hib always dominates again.
Hell even Rangers and Nightshades are better than hunters/sb’s.
I could go on and on ... to conclude it is no surprise /rw is always green, and Hib always has all 6 relics. Hib is easier than Mid in PvE and RvR. I know moving to Hib is part of the problem and not the solution, but as a player I’m tired of playing on the losing squad, unable to find the right classes for even a smallman, Hib you grab Bard, Druid, some dps and off you go. It’s demoralising always trying to defend from hibs in BG keep take RvR, and ofc always 0 relics.
OMG what have you done! Now every Hib on the server will get mad at you because you know, IT IS NOT A BALANCE ISSUE, it's all about tactics and BG leadership
Don't ever tell Hibs that they are easy-mode here, it drives them crazy!
i don't mean that what tommccartney wrote is wrong .... but i really want to discuss the problem.
on Hib the pve is quite simple, but it is also on alb, I don't know on mid, but if to solve the situation just change the pve ... no problem at all for me ..
RvR: I think the real problem lies here.
And even if i want to believe what you Mids say ... one question remains unanswered ... how did Pilz get 3 keep a Hib (Hib BG was on defending) and also 1 relic ???
pilz would also have taken 2 if someone hadn't reset the lord to 5% in Ailinne ....
how could Pilz do this if, as you say here, it is impossible to win with Mid in RvR?
Just asking .... I hope for a serious answer and not with the usual insults or irony.
thank you
Hey, yeah I’m open for discussion with no insults etc.
I think Pilz had some success on Mid due to the fact he is a well established BG leader on Phoenix with a large following. When he shifts realms it’s like pouring water from one glass to another.
How ever, I still feel class mechanics give hibs the advantage in PvE and RvR.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:55 AM
by
Forlornhope
tommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:44 AMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:29 AMValaraukar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:16 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMI have played Mid since server launch, it’s my home realm and has been for 15years. However, as of late I’ve gone to hib and now have a 50 Ani for PvE and now levelling an Eld for RvR. There is a massive difference between the two realms in terms of difficulty.
Hib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
RvR.
Hib has main CC and 204speed on one class, Bard.
For this mid needs Pac healer & Skald.
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
RM, SM, BD assist train can work, but it doesn’t compare.
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Static Tempest is on Thane, which no one groups. Hib has 2 static tempest.
Ichor is on 1 mid class, 3 Hib classes.
BG RvR
Hib has way more classes than can contribute. For example at keep defence, the bard can throw down some group heals if not CC, what can the Skald do ? If you take damage on hib there are 4 classes that can throw you a heal. It is a massive advantage in terms of survivability. IMAGINE on Mid; the 2 healers had 3 other classes than could assist in keeping people alive in keep defence ? Lol. 3 other classes that could throw a heal to recover from cata damage, volley damage, the odd crit shot, heal the random nuke someone just took, etc.
Hib casters will be dominating walls with base stun. Lord room battles Hib always dominates again.
Hell even Rangers and Nightshades are better than hunters/sb’s.
I could go on and on ... to conclude it is no surprise /rw is always green, and Hib always has all 6 relics. Hib is easier than Mid in PvE and RvR. I know moving to Hib is part of the problem and not the solution, but as a player I’m tired of playing on the losing squad, unable to find the right classes for even a smallman, Hib you grab Bard, Druid, some dps and off you go. It’s demoralising always trying to defend from hibs in BG keep take RvR, and ofc always 0 relics.
OMG what have you done! Now every Hib on the server will get mad at you because you know, IT IS NOT A BALANCE ISSUE, it's all about tactics and BG leadership
Don't ever tell Hibs that they are easy-mode here, it drives them crazy!
i don't mean that what tommccartney wrote is wrong .... but i really want to discuss the problem.
on Hib the pve is quite simple, but it is also on alb, I don't know on mid, but if to solve the situation just change the pve ... no problem at all for me ..
RvR: I think the real problem lies here.
And even if i want to believe what you Mids say ... one question remains unanswered ... how did Pilz get 3 keep a Hib (Hib BG was on defending) and also 1 relic ???
pilz would also have taken 2 if someone hadn't reset the lord to 5% in Ailinne ....
how could Pilz do this if, as you say here, it is impossible to win with Mid in RvR?
Just asking .... I hope for a serious answer and not with the usual insults or irony.
thank you
Hey, yeah I’m open for discussion with no insults etc.
I think Pilz had some success on Mid due to the fact he is a well established BG leader on Phoenix with a large following. When he shifts realms it’s like pouring water from one glass to another.
This is most likely accurate, and I still think that the only reason he had an issue the next day is because he was trying to take over the bg on "blue sunday". Which is more like an established event rather than a daily occurrence of an rvr bg.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:21 AM
by
Noashakra
For the PVE, it's true that hib is easier than ther other realms, IF you are not a tank.
If you roll one, gl to find a group... Mid xp group accept everything. Try to roll a tank on hib and come back to us and tell your experience...
Yeah explain to us why there are no fix team with a mage set up in gvg those days if it's so easy! Hib caster was really good pre HP buff and pre crit nerf.
Funny how mid didn't have any big nerf since december, when hib got a huge amnesia nerf and crit nerf (yes the nerf is not as huge for melee).
Is it our fault you don't play with a warrior?
If you play with two druid buffs, which nerfs you a lot... You need one buff one nature, and then the bard needs to buff too. If you play with 2 druids buffs to buff all the team, then you are the same as mid > you always need 2 druids and 1 bard and you need 2 healers and one chaman. So why are you crying?
The bard is on the front line, with 19% abs, and also has to switch to give endurance chant to tank... It's not a buff that's always on. It's always easy to point what's better in the other realm.
And it's always funny to see siouxie, crying about hibs when he showed again he again he has no idea about game mecanics, he was even burnt by a GM for that.
WHAT BIG NERF DID IMPACTED MID SINCE LAST DECEMBER?
None, the BD nerf in a BG is nothing. It's just that your BG leaders left. So stop crying and start acting. First, stop flag zerging even when your realm not under fire, and team up with the albs for the hib to have two front line to defend...
Accept it, your realm mates want easy rps, that's why 4fg mid camp the task drop off and don't bother with the rest.
If you roll one, gl to find a group... Mid xp group accept everything. Try to roll a tank on hib and come back to us and tell your experience...
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
Yeah explain to us why there are no fix team with a mage set up in gvg those days if it's so easy! Hib caster was really good pre HP buff and pre crit nerf.
Funny how mid didn't have any big nerf since december, when hib got a huge amnesia nerf and crit nerf (yes the nerf is not as huge for melee).
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Is it our fault you don't play with a warrior?
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
If you play with two druid buffs, which nerfs you a lot... You need one buff one nature, and then the bard needs to buff too. If you play with 2 druids buffs to buff all the team, then you are the same as mid > you always need 2 druids and 1 bard and you need 2 healers and one chaman. So why are you crying?
The bard is on the front line, with 19% abs, and also has to switch to give endurance chant to tank... It's not a buff that's always on. It's always easy to point what's better in the other realm.
And it's always funny to see siouxie, crying about hibs when he showed again he again he has no idea about game mecanics, he was even burnt by a GM for that.
WHAT BIG NERF DID IMPACTED MID SINCE LAST DECEMBER?
None, the BD nerf in a BG is nothing. It's just that your BG leaders left. So stop crying and start acting. First, stop flag zerging even when your realm not under fire, and team up with the albs for the hib to have two front line to defend...
Accept it, your realm mates want easy rps, that's why 4fg mid camp the task drop off and don't bother with the rest.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:32 AM
by
tommccartney
Noashakra wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:21 AMFor the PVE, it's true that hib is easier than ther other realms, IF you are not a tank.
If you roll one, gl to find a group... Mid xp group accept everything. Try to roll a tank on hib and come back to us and tell your experience...
Hib DPS - Chanter throws down a heat debuff, base stun, and starts nuking, the assisting split spec mana/light Eld(with insane utility) drops insta Str/con debuff, disease & jumps on target with base nuke, Ment jumps in with spec 209nuke. Target is toast.
Yeah explain to us why there are no fix team with a mage set up in gvg those days if it's so easy! Hib caster was really good pre HP buff and pre crit nerf.
Funny how mid didn't have any big nerf since december, when hib got a huge amnesia nerf and crit nerf (yes the nerf is not as huge for melee).
As stated Mid tanks are nothing special. Zerker has no access to shield or positional stuns, in exchange for no more raw dps than bm/merc except when in vendo mode. Savage H2h is 1h mechanic and easily guarded, hybrid with low hits & self buffs are on 15sec timer here.
Is it our fault you don't play with a warrior?
Hib has buffs and heals on 1 class, Druid.
For this Mid needs Aug Sham and Aug heal.
If you play with two druid buffs, which nerfs you a lot... You need one buff one nature, and then the bard needs to buff too. If you play with 2 druids buffs to buff all the team, then you are the same as mid > you always need 2 druids and 1 bard and you need 2 healers and one chaman. So why are you crying?
The bard is on the front line, with 19% abs, and also has to switch to give endurance chant to tank... It's not a buff that's always on. It's always easy to point what's better in the other realm.
And it's always funny to see siouxie, crying about hibs when he showed again he again he has no idea about game mecanics, he was even burnt by a GM for that.
WHAT BIG NERF DID IMPACTED MID SINCE LAST DECEMBER?
None, the BD nerf in a BG is nothing. It's just that your BG leaders left. So stop crying and start acting. First, stop flag zerging even when your realm not under fire, and team up with the albs for the hib to have two front line to defend...
Accept it, your realm mates want easy rps, that's why 4fg mid camp the task drop off and don't bother with the rest.
Insults and flames, ignoring your reply.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:32 AM
by
Nidd
Ceseuron wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:56 AMNidd wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 4:05 AMWe bailed out after mid decied it didn't want our help. 1 day after pilz took the alb str relic from hib pilz asked for the mid bg lead to change to him, he said no. That's fair. after we wpied for the second or third time due to bg lead errors, the bg leader stopped pilz asked again for the lead. Bg leader snubbed him gave it to someone else, after more errors and awful decisions pilz again asked for the bg lead and was told no and we are "hib spies" in the mid bg. So we logged out and went back to hib.
Mid has been dead after polemo left you. (you had the most powerful realm out of the 3 then) Its not the case of classes or RAs its about leaders and tactical decisions.
We would of had no chance of taking 3 keeps in alb yesterday if polemo was playing.
There's no reason to mince words here. If you had been genuinely interested in helping Midgard, as you claimed, you would have stuck around to learn Midgard RVR mechanics, which is a fair bit more complex than the Hibernian tactics of facerolling across NF, taking empty keeps and mashing a few buttons in an occasional fight that you're used to. Moreover, if charity was actually on your mind, you'd have tried to work with the BG leaders instead of insisting that you saw "bg errors" and demanding that they hand over lead and get out of your way. I think pretty much everyone understands the basic "Pilzpower" method of bashing open gates on empty keeps and taking relics from undefended realms so I'm at a loss as to what you thought you were bringing to the table that was worth so much that Midgard BG leaders should just step aside and let you take over.
In the future, I recommend you re-evaluate your peculiar brand of charity before you set about trying to inflict it upon others.
LMAO. ok np enjoy taking flags while we take "empty" keeps
Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:33 AM
by
Gildar
@ Forlon 1: Galladoria in Hib take almost 90/120 min also ... in 90+ toons and as long as ALL listen BG raid leader ... just one wrong cast and all the bg dies ...
Anyway, I repeat, no problem for me to make pve on Mid easier.
@ Tommccartney: It is true that Pilz brings many followers with him, but it seems to me that the discussion is about the classes ... not the number.
if the classes do not work the number matters little ... if instead the number is won, then the classes work and it is a problem of participation not of classes.
@Forlon 2: I'm Hib and I know Pilz .. he's a great leader but a little ... rough: P
and like all leaders he always wants to lead ... also in Hib when he log ... if there are a BG up he enter and ask current lead to pass to him...
Anyway i'm happy he leave Mid ... otherwise now the 6 relics was yours
Anyway, I repeat, no problem for me to make pve on Mid easier.
@ Tommccartney: It is true that Pilz brings many followers with him, but it seems to me that the discussion is about the classes ... not the number.
if the classes do not work the number matters little ... if instead the number is won, then the classes work and it is a problem of participation not of classes.
@Forlon 2: I'm Hib and I know Pilz .. he's a great leader but a little ... rough: P
and like all leaders he always wants to lead ... also in Hib when he log ... if there are a BG up he enter and ask current lead to pass to him...
Anyway i'm happy he leave Mid ... otherwise now the 6 relics was yours
Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:37 AM
by
Noashakra
Because you have no counter arguments?
And I flammed siouxie because he does the same on every post, he gaslight the conversation without anything of substance to add. If he does, it's wrong and he get roasted by a GM.
And farming the drop off with 4fg is not easy rp? It's not an insult if it's true mate.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:50 AM
by
Freedomcall
tommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMHib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
Not really about PvE pov though.
Hib PvE grp has same problem. If Verd ani leaves, it's hard to find a rep and grp is instantly dead without it.
Melee classes are mostly excluded from the bomb grp cuz "they bring nothing to an xp group".
Block bot? taking a bomb instead of melee is always better cuz ani pet can't be guarded.
The key of mid lvling grp is not celerity but "aoe stun".
It makes mid lvling extremely easy, sometime even easier than hib according to composition of the group.
Thanks to aoe stun, I had many times that my grp just pulling excessive number of mobs at each pull, like +10 mobs at a time without any problem.
Of course more bombs, more faster lvling, but mid grp actually can do pretty good without 3-4 bombs cuz of this reason.
Runnie's aoe dps is not as strong as SM, but they can bring aoe from any spec, and even with supp spec that has pbt.
having 1-2 "useless class" like hunter or savage didn't hinder the grp that much in a grp that has at least 1 sm and pac healer.
I have leveled all my chars last year already, so I'm not sure about current lelving status, but I never thought mid PvE is worse than hib PvE when I was lvling my chars.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:03 AM
by
tommccartney
Freedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:50 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMHib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
Not really about PvE pov though.
Hib PvE grp has same problem. If Verd ani leaves, it's hard to find a rep and grp is instantly dead without it.
Melee classes are mostly excluded from the bomb grp cuz "they bring nothing to an xp group".
Block bot? taking a bomb instead of melee is always better cuz ani pet can't be guarded.
The key of mid lvling grp is not celerity but "aoe stun".
It makes mid lvling extremely easy, sometime even easier than hib according to composition of the group.
Thanks to aoe stun, I had many times that my grp just pulling excessive number of mobs at each pull, like +10 mobs at a time without any problem.
Of course more bombs, more faster lvling, but mid grp actually can do pretty good without 3-4 bombs cuz of this reason.
Runnie's aoe dps is not as strong as SM, but they can bring aoe from any spec, and even with supp spec that has pbt.
having 1-2 "useless class" like hunter or savage didn't hinder the grp that much in a grp that has at least 1 sm and pac healer.
I have leveled all my chars last year already, so I'm not sure about current lelving status, but I never thought mid PvE is worse than hib PvE when I was lvling my chars.
If PvE isn’t easier on Hib, then what accounts for the difference in Plat between the realms ?
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:07 AM
by
Tyrlaan
At least doing flags is actively looking for enemies to kill, even if it is fg(s) vs. solo or small man (and thus "easy RPs" ).
That´s better RvR IMO than stealthers camping respawns (the lowest life form in any video game) or maximizing damage vs. doors (13k!) to maximize RPs/hour from lords.
That´s better RvR IMO than stealthers camping respawns (the lowest life form in any video game) or maximizing damage vs. doors (13k!) to maximize RPs/hour from lords.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:12 AM
by
DinoTriz
Freedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:50 AMNot really about PvE pov though.
Hib PvE grp has same problem. If Verd ani leaves, it's hard to find a rep and grp is instantly dead without it.
Melee classes are mostly excluded from the bomb grp cuz "they bring nothing to an xp group".
Block bot? taking a bomb instead of melee is always better cuz ani pet can't be guarded.
The key of mid lvling grp is not celerity but "aoe stun".
It makes mid lvling extremely easy, sometime even easier than hib according to composition of the group.
Thanks to aoe stun, I had many times that my grp just pulling excessive number of mobs at each pull, like +10 mobs at a time without any problem.
Of course more bombs, more faster lvling, but mid grp actually can do pretty good without 3-4 bombs cuz of this reason.
Runnie's aoe dps is not as strong as SM, but they can bring aoe from any spec, and even with supp spec that has pbt.
having 1-2 "useless class" like hunter or savage didn't hinder the grp that much in a grp that has at least 1 sm and pac healer.
I have leveled all my chars last year already, so I'm not sure about current lelving status, but I never thought mid PvE is worse than hib PvE when I was lvling my chars.
One of the big reasons why I play Mid is because it felt non-elitist when it came to grouping. I was just in a Moderna Redcap group last night with a cave shammy and a hunter and we were still chain pulling 10-15 red/purple mobs at a time easily.
Pac Healers are kinda rare though. That would be my only exception.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:16 AM
by
Freedomcall
tommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:03 AMFreedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:50 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMHib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
Not really about PvE pov though.
Hib PvE grp has same problem. If Verd ani leaves, it's hard to find a rep and grp is instantly dead without it.
Melee classes are mostly excluded from the bomb grp cuz "they bring nothing to an xp group".
Block bot? taking a bomb instead of melee is always better cuz ani pet can't be guarded.
The key of mid lvling grp is not celerity but "aoe stun".
It makes mid lvling extremely easy, sometime even easier than hib according to composition of the group.
Thanks to aoe stun, I had many times that my grp just pulling excessive number of mobs at each pull, like +10 mobs at a time without any problem.
Of course more bombs, more faster lvling, but mid grp actually can do pretty good without 3-4 bombs cuz of this reason.
Runnie's aoe dps is not as strong as SM, but they can bring aoe from any spec, and even with supp spec that has pbt.
having 1-2 "useless class" like hunter or savage didn't hinder the grp that much in a grp that has at least 1 sm and pac healer.
I have leveled all my chars last year already, so I'm not sure about current lelving status, but I never thought mid PvE is worse than hib PvE when I was lvling my chars.
If PvE isn’t easier on Hib, then what accounts for the difference in Plat between the realms ?
Are you talking about lvling or 50 farm?
Apparently you were talking about lvling which is irrelevant to plat farm and suddenly talk about difference in plat?
And I believe difference in Plat came from animists' solo capability rather than grp aspect.
It is true that there is no class in mid that can do a solo farm at a speed of animists.
But if you try to form a bomb grp for 50 farm grp, mid bomb grp is never slower than hib bomb grp.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:21 AM
by
Noashakra
Tyrlaan wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:07 AMAt least doing flags is actively looking for enemies to kill, even if it is fg(s) vs. solo or small man (and thus "easy RPs" ).
That´s better RvR IMO than stealthers camping respawns (the lowest life form in any video game) or maximizing damage vs. doors (13k!) to maximize RPs/hour from lords.
That's the summary of mid.
But then don't come and cry that you have no RK... That's my only point.
If you are happy and have fun flag zerging, kuddos to you. But then discuss with your other realm mate who come here and tell us that the dev should fix everything for them.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:24 AM
by
tommccartney
Freedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:16 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:03 AMFreedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:50 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMHib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
Not really about PvE pov though.
Hib PvE grp has same problem. If Verd ani leaves, it's hard to find a rep and grp is instantly dead without it.
Melee classes are mostly excluded from the bomb grp cuz "they bring nothing to an xp group".
Block bot? taking a bomb instead of melee is always better cuz ani pet can't be guarded.
The key of mid lvling grp is not celerity but "aoe stun".
It makes mid lvling extremely easy, sometime even easier than hib according to composition of the group.
Thanks to aoe stun, I had many times that my grp just pulling excessive number of mobs at each pull, like +10 mobs at a time without any problem.
Of course more bombs, more faster lvling, but mid grp actually can do pretty good without 3-4 bombs cuz of this reason.
Runnie's aoe dps is not as strong as SM, but they can bring aoe from any spec, and even with supp spec that has pbt.
having 1-2 "useless class" like hunter or savage didn't hinder the grp that much in a grp that has at least 1 sm and pac healer.
I have leveled all my chars last year already, so I'm not sure about current lelving status, but I never thought mid PvE is worse than hib PvE when I was lvling my chars.
If PvE isn’t easier on Hib, then what accounts for the difference in Plat between the realms ?
Are you talking about lvling or 50 farm?
Apparently you were talking about lvling which is irrelevant to plat farm and suddenly talk about difference in plat?
And I believe difference in Plat came from animists' solo capability rather than grp aspect.
It is true that there is no class in mid that can do a solo farm at a speed of animists.
But if you try to form a bomb grp for 50 farm grp, mid bomb grp is never slower than hib bomb grp.
Whether you’re levelling or farming plat the optimum set ups and desired classes are the same for level 50 as they are for level 30 say, so I’d say it’s all relevant PvE. Which I do feel it’s hard to argue that Mid does as well as Hib. There are not going to be as many Supp SM’s as Mana chanters for example. Aoe stun is nice but not as good as have 1shroom take all the aggro while pbaoes stack etc. From my experiences anyway it seems a lot easier on Hib. You may have had a different experience
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:24 AM
by
Gildar
Uhm .... so its seems pve on Mid not so bad ...
But ... i cant understand ....
Some Mid wrote Mid pve is difficult ... Some others tell they chain 15 red/purple in a pull ... whats up ?
The same for rvr argument ... someone talk about class imbalance and when i ask how Pilz could take a relic vs Hib BG another talk to numbers ... and no real answers about my prevoius post ...
i'm a bit confused ... i try to listen Mid s reasons but .... if someone tell black ... immediately another tells White ... LOL
But ... i cant understand ....
Some Mid wrote Mid pve is difficult ... Some others tell they chain 15 red/purple in a pull ... whats up ?
The same for rvr argument ... someone talk about class imbalance and when i ask how Pilz could take a relic vs Hib BG another talk to numbers ... and no real answers about my prevoius post ...
i'm a bit confused ... i try to listen Mid s reasons but .... if someone tell black ... immediately another tells White ... LOL
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:31 AM
by
Freedomcall
Gildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:24 AMUhm .... so its seems pve on Mid not so bad ...
But ... i cant understand ....
Some Mid wrote Mid pve is difficult ... Some others tell they chain 15 red/purple in a pull ... whats up ?
The same for rvr argument ... someone talk about class imbalance and when i ask how Pilz could take a relic vs Hib BG another talk to numbers ... and no real answers about my prevoius post ...
i'm a bit confused ... i try to listen Mid s reasons but .... if someone tell black ... immediately another tells White ... LOL
You should just stop cherrypicking things only that are favorable to you, and try to experience it yourself, as once you've written on your post.
You are not supposed to talk about balance or other stuffs without having any idea.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:42 AM
by
Gildar
Freedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:31 AMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:24 AMUhm .... so its seems pve on Mid not so bad ...
But ... i cant understand ....
Some Mid wrote Mid pve is difficult ... Some others tell they chain 15 red/purple in a pull ... whats up ?
The same for rvr argument ... someone talk about class imbalance and when i ask how Pilz could take a relic vs Hib BG another talk to numbers ... and no real answers about my prevoius post ...
i'm a bit confused ... i try to listen Mid s reasons but .... if someone tell black ... immediately another tells White ... LOL
You should just stop cherrypicking things only that are favorable to you, and try to experience it yourself, as once you've written on your post.
You are not supposed to talk about balance or other stuffs without having any idea.
I dont cherrypicking nothing LOL
Favorable to me ???
What can be favorable to me ???? I play Hib and we are winning... no need of nothing at all ...
But because many Mids ask for change or fix i want to understand the reasons
I only listen and read what all wrote to understand sonething about Midgard problems by ppl that play there.
I asked not flame ... but clearly is too difficult for you ...
Ok i'll reply only if there are real arguments to discuss ... but seems no one want answer at me ... only flame.
So GG ....
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:45 AM
by
Freedomcall
tommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:24 AMFreedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:16 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:03 AMFreedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:50 AMtommccartney wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:57 AMHib PvE - Animists. There’s 2 X classes that can bomb, 4 classes that can provide heal. Honestly it is unreal how easy it is. Yesterday I was in an xp group with Verd ani, Creep ani, Ment, Druid, Warden, Eld, Eld, Chanter, and it was unreal how the group chewed mobs up, with little effort. You don’t get anything close to this on Mid.
Mid PvE - healer split into 2 desired specs is annoying, Aug and pac. Groups only needing 1 shaman is annoying, it makes people not want to play them. When your sham leaves, it’s hard to find a rep. Where as in hib it’s not uncommon to have 2druids in an xp group. SM’s aren’t as abundant as Eld/Chanters, 1 class has pbaoe in mid & there is little desire to play an SM in RvR, so in turn there’s not many SM xp’in to 50, unlike Eld/Chanter. BD brings nothing to an xp group. RM is mediocre in terms of dmg compared to hib casters. And there’s nothing special about mid tanks. Thane is a class that’s neither here nore there. On Hib the dual wield light tank can even spec block bot if the group wishes. Such versatility. People will argue celerity is mids saving grace but it still doesn’t compare to the dps and utility of hib.
Not really about PvE pov though.
Hib PvE grp has same problem. If Verd ani leaves, it's hard to find a rep and grp is instantly dead without it.
Melee classes are mostly excluded from the bomb grp cuz "they bring nothing to an xp group".
Block bot? taking a bomb instead of melee is always better cuz ani pet can't be guarded.
The key of mid lvling grp is not celerity but "aoe stun".
It makes mid lvling extremely easy, sometime even easier than hib according to composition of the group.
Thanks to aoe stun, I had many times that my grp just pulling excessive number of mobs at each pull, like +10 mobs at a time without any problem.
Of course more bombs, more faster lvling, but mid grp actually can do pretty good without 3-4 bombs cuz of this reason.
Runnie's aoe dps is not as strong as SM, but they can bring aoe from any spec, and even with supp spec that has pbt.
having 1-2 "useless class" like hunter or savage didn't hinder the grp that much in a grp that has at least 1 sm and pac healer.
I have leveled all my chars last year already, so I'm not sure about current lelving status, but I never thought mid PvE is worse than hib PvE when I was lvling my chars.
If PvE isn’t easier on Hib, then what accounts for the difference in Plat between the realms ?
Are you talking about lvling or 50 farm?
Apparently you were talking about lvling which is irrelevant to plat farm and suddenly talk about difference in plat?
And I believe difference in Plat came from animists' solo capability rather than grp aspect.
It is true that there is no class in mid that can do a solo farm at a speed of animists.
But if you try to form a bomb grp for 50 farm grp, mid bomb grp is never slower than hib bomb grp.
Whether you’re levelling or farming plat the optimum set ups and desired classes are the same for level 50 as they are for level 30 say, so I’d say it’s all relevant PvE. Which I do feel it’s hard to argue that Mid does as well as Hib. There are not going to be as many Supp SM’s as Mana chanters for example. Aoe stun is nice but not as good as have 1shroom take all the aggro while pbaoes stack etc. From my experiences anyway it seems a lot easier on Hib. You may have had a different experience
Having shroom taking all the damage is great, but it is also a hp loss that healers have to heal.
So it is extremely dangerous to pull 3+ stacks of purple mobs.
AoE stun just negates all the damage for 9s+ seconds.
All you need is a meatshield that can endure first swings from mobs while those stack.
Once those are stunned, it doesn't matter how many mobs there are.
I'd personally say AoE stun is superior and also grants versatility of the grp composition.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:47 AM
by
Tyrlaan
Noashakra wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:21 AMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 10:07 AMAt least doing flags is actively looking for enemies to kill, even if it is fg(s) vs. solo or small man (and thus "easy RPs" ).
That´s better RvR IMO than stealthers camping respawns (the lowest life form in any video game) or maximizing damage vs. doors (13k!) to maximize RPs/hour from lords.
That's the summary of mid.
But then don't come and cry that you have no RK... That's my only point.
If you are happy and have fun flag zerging, kuddos to you. But then discuss with your other realm mate who come here and tell us that the dev should fix everything for them.
Tyrlaan wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 7:33 PMHave you ever considered that people could do flag tasks to not throw themselves at the Hib zerg?
Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:11 AM
by
Noashakra
it's ridiculous as an excuse. First because mid is doing even when there is no BG up... Even the evening when they had more 50 in ZF.
Second, if you attack with alb on hib, you will split the BG in two, and hib will lose its rk. So if you want people to stop playing on hib because of rk bonus, join forces with albs to open the relic gate. Act instead of complain.
Do you remember when mid was rolling on everything in november/december/january?
I didn't see people stopping to go to the BG in hib.
If you are sore losers, the GM can't fix that.
Second, if you attack with alb on hib, you will split the BG in two, and hib will lose its rk. So if you want people to stop playing on hib because of rk bonus, join forces with albs to open the relic gate. Act instead of complain.
Do you remember when mid was rolling on everything in november/december/january?
I didn't see people stopping to go to the BG in hib.
If you are sore losers, the GM can't fix that.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:28 AM
by
Messerjockel
I started as mid when the server opened and I have 4x lvl 50.
At that time mid was beyond doubt the strongest of the three realms.
I play EST night time and oadin and grumpy ran BGs at that time.
The name pilzpower was at that time already often to hear in region or bc.
Albs were at that time a nuisance for us, no real power and weaker than hibs
As ist happens I got bored and moved to hib and made an enchanter and played.
I joined the hib Zerg and I loved it, love big battles with dozens of players on each side.
As it happens ranger was buffed and I leveled mine to 50 from 35 in a couple days. Loved the damage and that I actually could kill something.
(As a mid I had some funny encounters with ranger and their damage felt like rain drops and my opinion about archer was low)
Than the nerf 2 weeks after the damage was increased, still played my ranger and had fun by joining the bg.
At that time Polemo was already in alb and now mid got weak during NA prime because mid was pushed back during EU prime.
Also I saw oadin and Grumpy running BGs less often than before.
I played my ranger and sucked at it, hybrid is just not a good build and I suck as a melee player too.
I played in between also alb, leveled an earth wizard during the first demon breach event to 50 and joined polemos Zerg and had a lot of fun and rps. earth wizards in BG make tons of rps. Hibs were strong with pilzpower and mids was an up and down, sometimes strong, mostly weaker.
So, long story and I apologize if I missed a lot of BG leaders in alb, mid, hib. You are all doing an awesome job putting us difficult characters in a fighting force.
The essence of my story. If you have a good bg leader and good is more than just saying please please please than you will rule the land.
A big part why hib is strong as it is has to do with pilzpower. The reason why alb came back from an nuisance to become a force again is in a bigger part Polemo and how he collected the albs.
Mid is on a declining slope for more than 8 month and you have good active BG leaders like Johnny but you must follow them, not once but over weeks and you will wipe but you will also triumph.
Flup, hib
At that time mid was beyond doubt the strongest of the three realms.
I play EST night time and oadin and grumpy ran BGs at that time.
The name pilzpower was at that time already often to hear in region or bc.
Albs were at that time a nuisance for us, no real power and weaker than hibs
As ist happens I got bored and moved to hib and made an enchanter and played.
I joined the hib Zerg and I loved it, love big battles with dozens of players on each side.
As it happens ranger was buffed and I leveled mine to 50 from 35 in a couple days. Loved the damage and that I actually could kill something.
(As a mid I had some funny encounters with ranger and their damage felt like rain drops and my opinion about archer was low)
Than the nerf 2 weeks after the damage was increased, still played my ranger and had fun by joining the bg.
At that time Polemo was already in alb and now mid got weak during NA prime because mid was pushed back during EU prime.
Also I saw oadin and Grumpy running BGs less often than before.
I played my ranger and sucked at it, hybrid is just not a good build and I suck as a melee player too.
I played in between also alb, leveled an earth wizard during the first demon breach event to 50 and joined polemos Zerg and had a lot of fun and rps. earth wizards in BG make tons of rps. Hibs were strong with pilzpower and mids was an up and down, sometimes strong, mostly weaker.
So, long story and I apologize if I missed a lot of BG leaders in alb, mid, hib. You are all doing an awesome job putting us difficult characters in a fighting force.
The essence of my story. If you have a good bg leader and good is more than just saying please please please than you will rule the land.
A big part why hib is strong as it is has to do with pilzpower. The reason why alb came back from an nuisance to become a force again is in a bigger part Polemo and how he collected the albs.
Mid is on a declining slope for more than 8 month and you have good active BG leaders like Johnny but you must follow them, not once but over weeks and you will wipe but you will also triumph.
Flup, hib
Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:30 AM
by
Wakefield
And if you logged into Mid and did /who 50 uppland, you would find that majority of mids are stood around in the relic time.
Seriously, try it sometime. Might say 90 level 50 mids in NF and 58 of them were in Uppland relic town.
No gates were open, no mobs to farm. Nothing. Just mids stood around waiting for task tick before either logging or forming a 8 man.
So /U is a misrepresentation of how many people are actually rvring across the realms, be interesting if they could cut the relic towns off from the /u to see what the real numbers are.
Seriously, try it sometime. Might say 90 level 50 mids in NF and 58 of them were in Uppland relic town.
No gates were open, no mobs to farm. Nothing. Just mids stood around waiting for task tick before either logging or forming a 8 man.
So /U is a misrepresentation of how many people are actually rvring across the realms, be interesting if they could cut the relic towns off from the /u to see what the real numbers are.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:36 AM
by
Noashakra
it's the same on hib and or alb...
So your point is moot
So your point is moot
Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:47 AM
by
swap89
blah blah blah .... these have been classes for 20 years ...
-I always played mid live and the bg was great ... just have the players who adapt to the realm they are in and use the right tactics.
-when pilz, me and others joined midgard in 3 days we got keep in hibernia, relic, and 2 relic missed because you reset lord to 5% ... if the class problem was so big I don't understand why we did it .
-when you have 150 person bg on sunday inc keep with teleport open, you lock yourself inside a tower and die in it ... you don't have any sense of logic about how to attack a realm ... Just seen done by oadin a night when he took relic to scathaig. The rest nothing
-do bg of 30 people and then there are another 2-3 bg running around the flags instead of playing all together.
-when a 12L4 leader joins midgard, seeing the ruined state of your realm, you pass him the lead immediately at least learn for a moment how to do a bg rvr. But no, you preferred to call us spies ...
as far as I'm concerned you're just whiners sticking to the classes and game mechanics that have been around for 20 years ...
greetings and kisses
smap
-I always played mid live and the bg was great ... just have the players who adapt to the realm they are in and use the right tactics.
-when pilz, me and others joined midgard in 3 days we got keep in hibernia, relic, and 2 relic missed because you reset lord to 5% ... if the class problem was so big I don't understand why we did it .
-when you have 150 person bg on sunday inc keep with teleport open, you lock yourself inside a tower and die in it ... you don't have any sense of logic about how to attack a realm ... Just seen done by oadin a night when he took relic to scathaig. The rest nothing
-do bg of 30 people and then there are another 2-3 bg running around the flags instead of playing all together.
-when a 12L4 leader joins midgard, seeing the ruined state of your realm, you pass him the lead immediately at least learn for a moment how to do a bg rvr. But no, you preferred to call us spies ...
as far as I'm concerned you're just whiners sticking to the classes and game mechanics that have been around for 20 years ...
greetings and kisses
smap
Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:50 AM
by
Forlornhope
Gildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:33 AM@ Forlon 1: Galladoria in Hib take almost 90/120 min also ... in 90+ toons and as long as ALL listen BG raid leader ... just one wrong cast and all the bg dies ...
Anyway, I repeat, no problem for me to make pve on Mid easier.
@ Tommccartney: It is true that Pilz brings many followers with him, but it seems to me that the discussion is about the classes ... not the number.
if the classes do not work the number matters little ... if instead the number is won, then the classes work and it is a problem of participation not of classes.
@Forlon 2: I'm Hib and I know Pilz .. he's a great leader but a little ... rough: P
and like all leaders he always wants to lead ... also in Hib when he log ... if there are a BG up he enter and ask current lead to pass to him...
Anyway i'm happy he leave Mid ... otherwise now the 6 relics was yours
And when he's in hib, if the leader doesn't want to give him lead does he get mad and just log off? The point is, the BG he was trying to take over was basically a realm event that the same people/guilds run. And since he didn't like how they led or didn't want them to he left. He could have very easily just still ran with them or started his own BG. Or he could have realized it was something that those specific leaders consistently organized and just logged and tried again either later or another day. He did none of those things.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:27 PM
by
Freedomcall
swap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:47 AM-when a 12L4 leader joins midgard, seeing the ruined state of your realm, you pass him the lead immediately at least learn for a moment how to do a bg rvr. But no, you preferred to call us spies ...
While I don't agree to lots of the things that mids complain, this is the most disgusting behavior.
What aspect does 12L4 show? His consistency. His skill and tactics? NO.
I was one of the people that was VERY favorable to Pilzpower since he started leading BG last year.
I used to compliment that he is a fine bg leader even on forums if you can search my old comment, when lots of people ridiculed his "PvDoor".
I like to play in underdog realm so lots of times so I was playing in his BG as well, so I can pretty much say I know how his leadership is.
"Learn how to do a bg rvr" from him?
Yeah maybe people can learn persistence and consistency,
But does he have a very special skills and tactics that outstands other BG leaders? Not at all.
Not saying he is bad, but what he does is what other fine BG leaders can do.
And errors that other BG leaders make is what he makes as well.
I believe he is not criticized for his mistakes anymore though, because he now has hegemony in hib. lol
What makes you think mids have to pass him the lead immediately?
Although lots of hibs admire him and pass the lead when he appears, that's what he earned while leading hib for more than a year.
That NEVER means he has a right to take over every BG in every realm.
lol seriously, You guys really make people want to hate pilz even more with such a rude behavior.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:37 PM
by
Messerjockel
Hate?
Are you off your rockers?
This is a game, if you hate players than this is not the right game for you.
Put them on ignore but don’t hate them.
Flup, hib
Are you off your rockers?
This is a game, if you hate players than this is not the right game for you.
Put them on ignore but don’t hate them.
Flup, hib
Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:39 PM
by
Gildar
Forlornhope wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:50 AMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:33 AM@ Forlon 1: Galladoria in Hib take almost 90/120 min also ... in 90+ toons and as long as ALL listen BG raid leader ... just one wrong cast and all the bg dies ...
Anyway, I repeat, no problem for me to make pve on Mid easier.
@ Tommccartney: It is true that Pilz brings many followers with him, but it seems to me that the discussion is about the classes ... not the number.
if the classes do not work the number matters little ... if instead the number is won, then the classes work and it is a problem of participation not of classes.
@Forlon 2: I'm Hib and I know Pilz .. he's a great leader but a little ... rough: P
and like all leaders he always wants to lead ... also in Hib when he log ... if there are a BG up he enter and ask current lead to pass to him...
Anyway i'm happy he leave Mid ... otherwise now the 6 relics was yours
And when he's in hib, if the leader doesn't want to give him lead does he get mad and just log off? The point is, the BG he was trying to take over was basically a realm event that the same people/guilds run. And since he didn't like how they led or didn't want them to he left. He could have very easily just still ran with them or started his own BG. Or he could have realized it was something that those specific leaders consistently organized and just logged and tried again either later or another day. He did none of those things.
When Pilz ask pass lead any other leader pass without discussion .... and Pilz promote them co-leaders ... and BG rocks ... we have a leader and some co-leaders driving their grps ... and so all follow and listen.
Same on alb ... when Polemo log he ever take the lead of alb BG without discussion.
Strange on Mid things go different ... but the result...
Sometimes Pilz enrage for an unexpected wipe he log and one of co-leaders step up (Smap, Gilboom and so on ) and BG hold on.
That's Hib .
Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:48 PM
by
Forlornhope
Gildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:39 PMForlornhope wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:50 AMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:33 AM@ Forlon 1: Galladoria in Hib take almost 90/120 min also ... in 90+ toons and as long as ALL listen BG raid leader ... just one wrong cast and all the bg dies ...
Anyway, I repeat, no problem for me to make pve on Mid easier.
@ Tommccartney: It is true that Pilz brings many followers with him, but it seems to me that the discussion is about the classes ... not the number.
if the classes do not work the number matters little ... if instead the number is won, then the classes work and it is a problem of participation not of classes.
@Forlon 2: I'm Hib and I know Pilz .. he's a great leader but a little ... rough: P
and like all leaders he always wants to lead ... also in Hib when he log ... if there are a BG up he enter and ask current lead to pass to him...
Anyway i'm happy he leave Mid ... otherwise now the 6 relics was yours
And when he's in hib, if the leader doesn't want to give him lead does he get mad and just log off? The point is, the BG he was trying to take over was basically a realm event that the same people/guilds run. And since he didn't like how they led or didn't want them to he left. He could have very easily just still ran with them or started his own BG. Or he could have realized it was something that those specific leaders consistently organized and just logged and tried again either later or another day. He did none of those things.
When Pilz ask pass lead any other leader pass without discussion .... and Pilz promote them co-leaders ... and BG rocks ... we have a leader and some co-leaders driving their grps ... and so all follow and listen.
Same on alb ... when Polemo log he ever take the lead of alb BG without discussion.
Strange on Mid things go different ... but the result...
Sometimes Pilz enrage for an unexpected wipe he log and one of co-leaders step up (Smap, Gilboom and so on ) and BG hold on.
That's Hib .
You're completely missing the point, it wasn't just some daily BG it was a specific event run by a certain alliance that they have been doing for a year if not longer. Why should he or anyone else expect the leader of that event to just hand over the lead and let someone else run it? Just because that event happened to be an rvr event changes nothing.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:58 PM
by
Freedomcall
Gildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:39 PMForlornhope wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:50 AMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:33 AM@ Forlon 1: Galladoria in Hib take almost 90/120 min also ... in 90+ toons and as long as ALL listen BG raid leader ... just one wrong cast and all the bg dies ...
Anyway, I repeat, no problem for me to make pve on Mid easier.
@ Tommccartney: It is true that Pilz brings many followers with him, but it seems to me that the discussion is about the classes ... not the number.
if the classes do not work the number matters little ... if instead the number is won, then the classes work and it is a problem of participation not of classes.
@Forlon 2: I'm Hib and I know Pilz .. he's a great leader but a little ... rough: P
and like all leaders he always wants to lead ... also in Hib when he log ... if there are a BG up he enter and ask current lead to pass to him...
Anyway i'm happy he leave Mid ... otherwise now the 6 relics was yours
And when he's in hib, if the leader doesn't want to give him lead does he get mad and just log off? The point is, the BG he was trying to take over was basically a realm event that the same people/guilds run. And since he didn't like how they led or didn't want them to he left. He could have very easily just still ran with them or started his own BG. Or he could have realized it was something that those specific leaders consistently organized and just logged and tried again either later or another day. He did none of those things.
When Pilz ask pass lead any other leader pass without discussion .... and Pilz promote them co-leaders ... and BG rocks ... we have a leader and some co-leaders driving their grps ... and so all follow and listen.
Same on alb ... when Polemo log he ever take the lead of alb BG without discussion.
Strange on Mid things go different ... but the result...
Sometimes Pilz enrage for an unexpected wipe he log and one of co-leaders step up (Smap, Gilboom and so on ) and BG hold on.
That's Hib .
Again this shows that you have no idea about other realms.
When Polemo first migrated to alb, he actually didn't ask for lead when Harder or the pally from FoA(forgot his name jesus
) was leading BG.
I've even seen him once passing the lead to Harder when he was leading and Harder just logged.
And there was later some hegemony battle in alb and that became one of the reasons why Jacktheripper moved to Mid.
Polemo never got the right to take the lead of alb BG "without discussion" when he first moved.
Are you going to pass the lead to Polemo when he logs hib then?
It is not a strange thing that Johny didn't pass lead to Pilz.
If Pilz is not on hib, he has no right anymore.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 1:07 PM
by
Noashakra
I agree that pilz can't show up after 5 days and expect people to follow him just because.
Tehy didn't try a lot and just could not be bothered because of ego problems (this is my guess).
Start by leading in the afternoon and show to the people your value.
Tehy didn't try a lot and just could not be bothered because of ego problems (this is my guess).
Start by leading in the afternoon and show to the people your value.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 1:37 PM
by
swap89
what you say is normal is also right.Freedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:58 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:39 PMForlornhope wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:50 AMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:33 AM@ Forlon 1: Galladoria in Hib take almost 90/120 min also ... in 90+ toons and as long as ALL listen BG raid leader ... just one wrong cast and all the bg dies ...
Anyway, I repeat, no problem for me to make pve on Mid easier.
@ Tommccartney: It is true that Pilz brings many followers with him, but it seems to me that the discussion is about the classes ... not the number.
if the classes do not work the number matters little ... if instead the number is won, then the classes work and it is a problem of participation not of classes.
@Forlon 2: I'm Hib and I know Pilz .. he's a great leader but a little ... rough: P
and like all leaders he always wants to lead ... also in Hib when he log ... if there are a BG up he enter and ask current lead to pass to him...
Anyway i'm happy he leave Mid ... otherwise now the 6 relics was yours
And when he's in hib, if the leader doesn't want to give him lead does he get mad and just log off? The point is, the BG he was trying to take over was basically a realm event that the same people/guilds run. And since he didn't like how they led or didn't want them to he left. He could have very easily just still ran with them or started his own BG. Or he could have realized it was something that those specific leaders consistently organized and just logged and tried again either later or another day. He did none of those things.
When Pilz ask pass lead any other leader pass without discussion .... and Pilz promote them co-leaders ... and BG rocks ... we have a leader and some co-leaders driving their grps ... and so all follow and listen.
Same on alb ... when Polemo log he ever take the lead of alb BG without discussion.
Strange on Mid things go different ... but the result...
Sometimes Pilz enrage for an unexpected wipe he log and one of co-leaders step up (Smap, Gilboom and so on ) and BG hold on.
That's Hib .
Again this shows that you have no idea about other realms.
When Polemo first migrated to alb, he actually didn't ask for lead when Harder or the pally from FoA(forgot his name jesus
I've even seen him once passing the lead to Harder when he was leading and Harder just logged.
And there was later some hegemony battle in alb and that became one of the reasons why Jacktheripper moved to Mid.
Polemo never got the right to take the lead of alb BG "without discussion" when he first moved.
Are you going to pass the lead to Polemo when he logs hib then?
It is not a strange thing that Johny didn't pass lead to Pilz.
If Pilz is not on hib, he has no right anymore.
but you forget a detail.
Harder is harder, the albion bg was strong, harder a great leader.
Midgard has serious leadership issues.
Leaders' mistakes often cause 150 people to die.
Midgard doesn't have a leader who plays all the time, and who you know every day does anyway bg.
I don't think midgard is a force in rvr in the last period.
let's say it's a disaster.
And it is not a problem of classes, because in 4-5 days with pilz we have shown that if they want midgard can do rvr and attack realms.
But you need good driving, which in my opinion midgard doesn't have now
Sun 30 Aug 2020 3:34 PM
by
Johny Rousquille
Your CD is scratched smap,
it's like you're talking to a wall that thinks you're right,
blablablabla Leader Mid bad, Pilz Better, blablabla, I didn't know that to go straight you had to be good, blablabla , blablabla,
listening is a dialogue of the deaf, once again,
we can say that the sea is blue, the hib will still tell you what is green ...
Respect the bg Leader, start with the nominees, arrogant to say that no one leads,
Sorry if we don't work in a computer store, maybe you tell me to change jobs, the problem comes from
it's like you're talking to a wall that thinks you're right,
blablablabla Leader Mid bad, Pilz Better, blablabla, I didn't know that to go straight you had to be good, blablabla , blablabla,
listening is a dialogue of the deaf, once again,
we can say that the sea is blue, the hib will still tell you what is green ...
Respect the bg Leader, start with the nominees, arrogant to say that no one leads,
Sorry if we don't work in a computer store, maybe you tell me to change jobs, the problem comes from
Sun 30 Aug 2020 4:22 PM
by
Gildar
Freedomcall wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:58 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:39 PMForlornhope wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:50 AMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 9:33 AM@ Forlon 1: Galladoria in Hib take almost 90/120 min also ... in 90+ toons and as long as ALL listen BG raid leader ... just one wrong cast and all the bg dies ...
Anyway, I repeat, no problem for me to make pve on Mid easier.
@ Tommccartney: It is true that Pilz brings many followers with him, but it seems to me that the discussion is about the classes ... not the number.
if the classes do not work the number matters little ... if instead the number is won, then the classes work and it is a problem of participation not of classes.
@Forlon 2: I'm Hib and I know Pilz .. he's a great leader but a little ... rough: P
and like all leaders he always wants to lead ... also in Hib when he log ... if there are a BG up he enter and ask current lead to pass to him...
Anyway i'm happy he leave Mid ... otherwise now the 6 relics was yours
And when he's in hib, if the leader doesn't want to give him lead does he get mad and just log off? The point is, the BG he was trying to take over was basically a realm event that the same people/guilds run. And since he didn't like how they led or didn't want them to he left. He could have very easily just still ran with them or started his own BG. Or he could have realized it was something that those specific leaders consistently organized and just logged and tried again either later or another day. He did none of those things.
When Pilz ask pass lead any other leader pass without discussion .... and Pilz promote them co-leaders ... and BG rocks ... we have a leader and some co-leaders driving their grps ... and so all follow and listen.
Same on alb ... when Polemo log he ever take the lead of alb BG without discussion.
Strange on Mid things go different ... but the result...
Sometimes Pilz enrage for an unexpected wipe he log and one of co-leaders step up (Smap, Gilboom and so on ) and BG hold on.
That's Hib .
Again this shows that you have no idea about other realms.
When Polemo first migrated to alb, he actually didn't ask for lead when Harder or the pally from FoA(forgot his name jesus
I've even seen him once passing the lead to Harder when he was leading and Harder just logged.
And there was later some hegemony battle in alb and that became one of the reasons why Jacktheripper moved to Mid.
Polemo never got the right to take the lead of alb BG "without discussion" when he first moved.
Are you going to pass the lead to Polemo when he logs hib then?
It is not a strange thing that Johny didn't pass lead to Pilz.
If Pilz is not on hib, he has no right anymore.
I understand your point and agree. But all server know Pilz ...
I only explain how things go in Hib ...
No one had the lead by God-right ... but if a leader show me he can drive a BG and took many keep and also a relic vs Hib BG (stroger of server atm) i gladly pass lead ... maybe that day was special ... Blue Sunday ... but is wrong ignoring Pilz ....
Imagine ... Pilz driving the Blue Sunday BG ... LOL he can take 4 relics in a day ...
I dont mean Mid leaders are bad ... i respect Johny ... but Pilz call more ppl in BG ... also some that usually zerg flags ... other leaders cant ... and number means
Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PM
by
Stoertebecker
I´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:11 PM
by
swap89
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
ahahahahahahahahahah......
u cant take a keep with 82 mids inside...
Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM
by
Gildar
*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:17 PM
by
swap89
Gildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
they were 82 inside and we open outer....they not able to kill us on outer door with 82 and hoinz grp inside...and he talk LOL
Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:45 PM
by
Stoertebecker
swap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:17 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
they were 82 inside and we open outer....they not able to kill us on outer door with 82 and hoinz grp inside...and he talk LOL
Yeah sure...there were 82 inside with 102 total in rvr, don`t smoke too much shroms.
And yes, we do small men and 8v8 instead of pveìng towers and keeps. Have fun running around for 1h without having fights against similar numbers.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:52 PM
by
swap89
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:45 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:17 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
they were 82 inside and we open outer....they not able to kill us on outer door with 82 and hoinz grp inside...and he talk LOL
Yeah sure...there were 82 inside with 102 total in rvr, don`t smoke too much shroms.
And yes, we do small men and 8v8 instead of pveìng towers and keeps. Have fun running around for 1h without having fights against similar numbers.
spam was 82 on glen gt...enjoy the flag
Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:16 PM
by
Stoertebecker
swap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:52 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:45 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:17 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
they were 82 inside and we open outer....they not able to kill us on outer door with 82 and hoinz grp inside...and he talk LOL
Yeah sure...there were 82 inside with 102 total in rvr, don`t smoke too much shroms.
And yes, we do small men and 8v8 instead of pveìng towers and keeps. Have fun running around for 1h without having fights against similar numbers.
spam was 82 on glen gt...enjoy the flag
enjoy pve
Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:38 PM
by
Gildar
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:16 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:52 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:45 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:17 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
they were 82 inside and we open outer....they not able to kill us on outer door with 82 and hoinz grp inside...and he talk LOL
Yeah sure...there were 82 inside with 102 total in rvr, don`t smoke too much shroms.
And yes, we do small men and 8v8 instead of pveìng towers and keeps. Have fun running around for 1h without having fights against similar numbers.
spam was 82 on glen gt...enjoy the flag
enjoy pve
Ok you do your bullsh** ... Now pls leave discussion and we can continue talking about more serious things without you flaming .... we dont notice your absence.
Ty & BB
Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:39 PM
by
Wakefield
Isn't merging empty keeps the same as zerging the flag?
You dont fight equal numbers, lack off opposition and you can get a healthy reward every 45 minutes.
Same argument for flags as empty keeps imo
You dont fight equal numbers, lack off opposition and you can get a healthy reward every 45 minutes.
Same argument for flags as empty keeps imo
Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:53 PM
by
Stoertebecker
Gildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:38 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:16 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:52 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:45 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:17 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
they were 82 inside and we open outer....they not able to kill us on outer door with 82 and hoinz grp inside...and he talk LOL
Yeah sure...there were 82 inside with 102 total in rvr, don`t smoke too much shroms.
And yes, we do small men and 8v8 instead of pveìng towers and keeps. Have fun running around for 1h without having fights against similar numbers.
spam was 82 on glen gt...enjoy the flag
enjoy pve
Ok you do your bullsh** ... Now pls leave discussion and we can continue talking about more serious things without you flaming .... we dont notice your absence.
Ty & BB
And you do your braindead lemming stuff? I`m fine with it, to each his own
Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:08 PM
by
Gildar
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:53 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:38 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:16 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:52 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:45 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:17 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
they were 82 inside and we open outer....they not able to kill us on outer door with 82 and hoinz grp inside...and he talk LOL
Yeah sure...there were 82 inside with 102 total in rvr, don`t smoke too much shroms.
And yes, we do small men and 8v8 instead of pveìng towers and keeps. Have fun running around for 1h without having fights against similar numbers.
spam was 82 on glen gt...enjoy the flag
enjoy pve
Ok you do your bullsh** ... Now pls leave discussion and we can continue talking about more serious things without you flaming .... we dont notice your absence.
Ty & BB
And you do your braindead lemming stuff? I`m fine with it, to each his own
Pathetic ....
Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:31 PM
by
Messerjockel
Definitely time to lock this thread.
Enough opinions were shared from many players.
Let Midgard figure it out themselves or fail.
Flup, hib
Enough opinions were shared from many players.
Let Midgard figure it out themselves or fail.
Flup, hib
Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:32 PM
by
Wakefield
Gildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:08 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:53 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:38 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:16 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:52 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:45 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:17 PMGildar wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:13 PM*Flame mode on*Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
You cant talk about all Hibs .... i can reply too easy that all Mids are cowards and fight only many vs small around flags
*Flame mode off *
Anyway your post is, as usual, useless and give nothing to a discussion so far interesting and with low % of flame/ whining and so on
they were 82 inside and we open outer....they not able to kill us on outer door with 82 and hoinz grp inside...and he talk LOL
Yeah sure...there were 82 inside with 102 total in rvr, don`t smoke too much shroms.
And yes, we do small men and 8v8 instead of pveìng towers and keeps. Have fun running around for 1h without having fights against similar numbers.
spam was 82 on glen gt...enjoy the flag
enjoy pve
Ok you do your bullsh** ... Now pls leave discussion and we can continue talking about more serious things without you flaming .... we dont notice your absence.
Ty & BB
And you do your braindead lemming stuff? I`m fine with it, to each his own
Pathetic ....
Gildar, your not helping yourself for biting back.
This should be a grown up discussion, not the pair of you keyboard warrioring stuff.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:32 PM
by
Forlornhope
Wakefield wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:39 PMIsn't merging empty keeps the same as zerging the flag?
You dont fight equal numbers, lack off opposition and you can get a healthy reward every 45 minutes.
Same argument for flags as empty keeps imo
Little louder for the people in the back!
Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:07 PM
by
Noashakra
Forlornhope wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:32 PMWakefield wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:39 PMIsn't merging empty keeps the same as zerging the flag?
You dont fight equal numbers, lack off opposition and you can get a healthy reward every 45 minutes.
Same argument for flags as empty keeps imo
Little louder for the people in the back!
It's lame too, nobody denies that.
But if you don't like it don't complain then you have no rk.
I don't like keep fights, and I don't complain when we don't have rks...
Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:11 PM
by
Forlornhope
Noashakra wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 8:07 PMForlornhope wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 7:32 PMWakefield wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 6:39 PMIsn't merging empty keeps the same as zerging the flag?
You dont fight equal numbers, lack off opposition and you can get a healthy reward every 45 minutes.
Same argument for flags as empty keeps imo
Little louder for the people in the back!
It's lame too, nobody denies that.
But if you don't like it don't complain then you have no rk.
I don't like keep fights, and I don't complain when we don't have rks...
And neither do I, it makes very little difference to me. I've been playing mid pretty much exclusively since December, so I know what it's like to never have them. But, of course you don't complain about never having them lol.
Sun 30 Aug 2020 11:26 PM
by
Tyrlaan
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 5:03 PMI´d rather log out before running with Pilzpower leading a BG in Midgard, simply as that.
And afaik we wiped the Hibs some minutes ago at Glenlock with Nordia leading the Mid-BG, and what did Pilzpaule? Went to Fensalir knocking on wood.
So far for * we`re seeking fights instead of raiding empty keeps *.
Hibs are so boring and predictable lemmings.
He knows that no realm can match the power of Hib set up at structures. But basically he just uses this as safety to get keeps as quickly as possible to maximize RPs from lords.
Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:18 AM
by
Noashakra
Since the shrooms nerf, it's wrong. Alb is the best with all its gtae and abo...
Can someone be objective for once?
Can someone be objective for once?
Mon 31 Aug 2020 12:53 PM
by
DinoTriz
Most of Mid is AFK in the Frontier and the BGs never communicate.
I should be fair, there are some really solid BG leaders out there but most of them feel completely dead because they never communicate.
They could be communicating in Discord, but you can't expect everyone to join Discord....especially in what is an essentially a PUG.
I should be fair, there are some really solid BG leaders out there but most of them feel completely dead because they never communicate.
They could be communicating in Discord, but you can't expect everyone to join Discord....especially in what is an essentially a PUG.
Mon 31 Aug 2020 1:34 PM
by
Wakefield
The discord is slammed regularly, so if people dont join,even to listen., it's just lazy.
Majority of players across all time zones and over all realms have a rudimentary understand of english.
But Mid seems to have a private bg for native german speakers, the same was on Uthgard 2. Luckily I just listened and as a cleric, I could manage. Not sure if that happens here, but I've heard rumours
Majority of players across all time zones and over all realms have a rudimentary understand of english.
But Mid seems to have a private bg for native german speakers, the same was on Uthgard 2. Luckily I just listened and as a cleric, I could manage. Not sure if that happens here, but I've heard rumours
Mon 31 Aug 2020 2:30 PM
by
Wakefield
Noashakra wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:18 AMSince the shrooms nerf, it's wrong. Alb is the best with all its gtae and abo...
Can someone be objective for once?
Well placed tanglers can lock up a bg. Blue con root on none det classes is bullshit.
So your tanks get out of it, stun, debuff nuke yawn nuke whilst healers are literally stood out of range by only a fraction to do anything. If they hang back, the mushroom is happy doing its interrupt thing as the debuff nuke train goes to work.
Shroomers haven't been needed as such, they just cant spam them willy nilly all over the damn place
Mon 31 Aug 2020 3:14 PM
by
Stoertebecker
Wakefield wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 1:34 PMThe discord is slammed regularly, so if people dont join,even to listen., it's just lazy.
Majority of players across all time zones and over all realms have a rudimentary understand of english.
But Mid seems to have a private bg for native german speakers, the same was on Uthgard 2. Luckily I just listened and as a cleric, I could manage. Not sure if that happens here, but I've heard rumours
It is no BG, it`s 1-4fg from different alliance guilds playing together for 2h on 3 evenings a week, sitting in a private TS and thats already trouble enough.
If there is any Midgard BG were going to help them out...if we`re in the mood for PvDoors. If not (and that`s mostly the case) we do what we do. Nothing special.
Mon 31 Aug 2020 3:15 PM
by
thirian24
Wakefield wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 2:30 PMNoashakra wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:18 AMSince the shrooms nerf, it's wrong. Alb is the best with all its gtae and abo...
Can someone be objective for once?
Well placed tanglers can lock up a bg. Blue con root on none det classes is bullshit.
So your tanks get out of it, stun, debuff nuke yawn nuke whilst healers are literally stood out of range by only a fraction to do anything. If they hang back, the mushroom is happy doing its interrupt thing as the debuff nuke train goes to work.
Shroomers haven't been needed as such, they just cant spam them willy nilly all over the damn place
Teach your tanks not to over extend from the healers?
Mon 31 Aug 2020 5:22 PM
by
Wakefield
Doesnt matter either way, I have given up on this server for a while.
Shame really, it was good while it lasted but it isn't any fun anymore.
And as my main is a healer with main alt aug shammie, Mid has lost a dedicated support player.
Oh well.
Shame really, it was good while it lasted but it isn't any fun anymore.
And as my main is a healer with main alt aug shammie, Mid has lost a dedicated support player.
Oh well.
Mon 31 Aug 2020 5:43 PM
by
Noashakra
Wakefield wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 2:30 PMNoashakra wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:18 AMSince the shrooms nerf, it's wrong. Alb is the best with all its gtae and abo...
Can someone be objective for once?
Well placed tanglers can lock up a bg. Blue con root on none det classes is bullshit.
So your tanks get out of it, stun, debuff nuke yawn nuke whilst healers are literally stood out of range by only a fraction to do anything. If they hang back, the mushroom is happy doing its interrupt thing as the debuff nuke train goes to work.
Shroomers haven't been needed as such, they just cant spam them willy nilly all over the damn place
lol... Man if everyone is like you, I am not surprised mid can't take a tower...
Stun on a tank in a bg, the stun last what... 1.5sec?
You do know shrooms can be killed? You do know that tanglers are useless in keep fights?
Also the other guy spoke about keep fight and now the tangler is a problem? Why did you conveniently switch to open field fight?
He knows that no realm can match the power of Hib set up at structures.
Mon 31 Aug 2020 6:01 PM
by
Wakefield
Noashakra wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 5:43 PMWakefield wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 2:30 PMNoashakra wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:18 AMSince the shrooms nerf, it's wrong. Alb is the best with all its gtae and abo...
Can someone be objective for once?
Well placed tanglers can lock up a bg. Blue con root on none det classes is bullshit.
So your tanks get out of it, stun, debuff nuke yawn nuke whilst healers are literally stood out of range by only a fraction to do anything. If they hang back, the mushroom is happy doing its interrupt thing as the debuff nuke train goes to work.
Shroomers haven't been needed as such, they just cant spam them willy nilly all over the damn place
lol... Man if everyone is like you, I am not surprised mid can't take a tower...
Stun on a tank in a bg, the stun last what... 1.5sec?
You do know shrooms can be killed? You do know that tanglers are useless in keep fights?
Also the other guy spoke about keep fight and now the tangler is a problem? Why did you conveniently switch to open field fight?
He knows that no realm can match the power of Hib set up at structures.
Either way, the server is swirling closer and closer down to bottom of the toilet bowl and everyone seems to be blind to that fact.
I was saying the same thing about a year and a half before this server launch about Uthgard and see how THAT ended up...
Such a shame after the time I put into both servers.
Mon 31 Aug 2020 6:07 PM
by
DinoTriz
Wakefield wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 6:01 PMEither way, the server is swirling closer and closer down to bottom of the toilet bowl and everyone seems to be blind to that fact.
I was saying the same thing about a year and a half before this server launch about Uthgard and see how THAT ended up...
Such a shame after the time I put into both servers.
It seems like everything is just dandy for the Hibs atm
I imagine they're all relaxing in hot tubs filled with RPs
Mon 31 Aug 2020 9:29 PM
by
Siouxsie
Now albs and hibs are restoring to the taunt & bait technique. One of them taunts, reports to 1-2 full groups to come and steamroll.
Wow they just have no lives.
Player base is 100% toxic.
Wow they just have no lives.
Player base is 100% toxic.
Mon 31 Aug 2020 9:54 PM
by
Noashakra
Siouxsie wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 9:29 PMNow albs and hibs are restoring to the taunt & bait technique. One of them taunts, reports to 1-2 full groups to come and steamroll.
Wow they just have no lives.
Player base is 100% toxic.
Totally agree, like the mid stealthers zerging docks and relic gate for weeks.
I remember one, a koby hunter, who is now 10L. What was his name again?
Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:22 PM
by
Wakefield
Dunno about other realms but Uppland is permanently camped by every man and his dog.
Christ, was a fgH earlier mowing everything down.
Guess it's the holy rps though, hardly challenging but red is dead!!!1
Christ, was a fgH earlier mowing everything down.
Guess it's the holy rps though, hardly challenging but red is dead!!!1
Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:41 PM
by
Eldoktor
Zergers always killed servers no matter what people say
Dumb decisions made the live getting worse every year.....but zergers like herorius and pilzpower killed the game.
Nothing else to say Always been like this, too much zergs with task giving them rps for just woodcutting.....won't change anything.
The moment you give free rps to dumbass zergers, you sign the death penalty on the server.
Everytime it works....
Dumb decisions made the live getting worse every year.....but zergers like herorius and pilzpower killed the game.
Nothing else to say
Always been like this, too much zergs with task giving them rps for just woodcutting.....won't change anything.
The moment you give free rps to dumbass zergers, you sign the death penalty on the server.
Everytime it works....
Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:51 PM
by
Gildar
Siouxsie wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 9:29 PMNow albs and hibs are restoring to the taunt & bait technique. One of them taunts, reports to 1-2 full groups to come and steamroll.
Wow they just have no lives.
Player base is 100% toxic.
Go back kill expers ... you one of the most toxic of all ... call toxic others ... really funny
Tue 1 Sep 2020 12:00 AM
by
Gildar
Eldoktor wrote: ↑Mon 31 Aug 2020 11:41 PMZergers always killed servers no matter what people say
Dumb decisions made the live getting worse every year.....but zergers like herorius and pilzpower killed the game.
Nothing else to say
The moment you give free rps to dumbass zergers, you sign the death penalty on the server.
Everytime it works....
In my point of view it is the subculture of pros 8v8 that kill server.
Too many ppl was influenced and leave RvR to do a sort of Arena game ... insulting others if add their inc and Call others newbies ... no one can enter in their "magic circle" ... i know very well i was part of that circle for about 9 years ... Now i play lamost all my time in zerg ... only some evening i do 8v8
That kill game because casual players (the main part of playerbase) was excluded and many leave RvR zerg also because in some realm if you join zerg are a mindless chicken and be bullied in chat by pros 8v8.
So ppl leave RvR and server dies because pros have no more casuals to kill and to show how they are game gods
Tue 1 Sep 2020 12:37 PM
by
Kevan89
Almost everyone in here is saying something right, even Glidar (and it fucking hurts my brain saying that) with the 8vs8 lobby.
What I do not understand is: If i see that one part of the community is suffering in a black period (due whatever reason) and I keep stabbing and putting salt in the wounds I guess is not gonna help that part of community to improve or get up on feet.
I'll make an example for clarity:
Imagine a game as Rust, survival base game. My clan/tribe fight against another one and win, i devastate their base and keep doing it so everyday not letting them the time/mood to get back up and fight, this other clan leaves the server. Now I play alone, ok I'm improving my base to be an impenetrable fortress, yet always alone.
This is what I got as impression from yesterday night, in which Hibs zerg and Alb zerg passed the whole night/evening to cap Mid towers and keeps, no relic to be taken (that would give a reason), yet Mid retake couple of towers and a keep and Hibs keep coming, they never thought to switch on Albion.
This give me headache.
Is not this taking clearly advantage of a unbalanced situation (not saying is not legit, but I can say is kind of toxic at least for the server health) ?
PS: @Hibs: I'm ready just go on and crucify me on the public square with the usual comments, I acknowledge I'm exposed to that :V
EDIT: Also, before I get eaten alive by the Greenposters I'll add something: I'm not saying to leave in peace Midgard entirely but maybe try to challenge yourself and split the zerg to fight Alb and Mid on 2 differents front, maybe also just this could balance for a better RVR/zerg experience on both sides (even if guess you enjoy the easy RPs :V) .
What I do not understand is: If i see that one part of the community is suffering in a black period (due whatever reason) and I keep stabbing and putting salt in the wounds I guess is not gonna help that part of community to improve or get up on feet.
I'll make an example for clarity:
Imagine a game as Rust, survival base game. My clan/tribe fight against another one and win, i devastate their base and keep doing it so everyday not letting them the time/mood to get back up and fight, this other clan leaves the server. Now I play alone, ok I'm improving my base to be an impenetrable fortress, yet always alone.
This is what I got as impression from yesterday night, in which Hibs zerg and Alb zerg passed the whole night/evening to cap Mid towers and keeps, no relic to be taken (that would give a reason), yet Mid retake couple of towers and a keep and Hibs keep coming, they never thought to switch on Albion.
This give me headache.
Is not this taking clearly advantage of a unbalanced situation (not saying is not legit, but I can say is kind of toxic at least for the server health) ?
PS: @Hibs: I'm ready just go on and crucify me on the public square with the usual comments, I acknowledge I'm exposed to that :V
EDIT: Also, before I get eaten alive by the Greenposters I'll add something: I'm not saying to leave in peace Midgard entirely but maybe try to challenge yourself and split the zerg to fight Alb and Mid on 2 differents front, maybe also just this could balance for a better RVR/zerg experience on both sides (even if guess you enjoy the easy RPs :V) .
Tue 1 Sep 2020 12:55 PM
by
tommccartney
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 12:37 PMAlmost everyone in here is saying something right, even Glidar (and it fucking hurts my brain saying that) with the 8vs8 lobby.
What I do not understand is: If i see that one part of the community is suffering in a black period (due whatever reason) and I keep stabbing and putting salt in the wounds I guess is not gonna help that part of community to improve or get up on feet.
I'll make an example for clarity:
Imagine a game as Rust, survival base game. My clan/tribe fight against another one and win, i devastate their base and keep doing it so everyday not letting them the time/mood to get back up and fight, this other clan leaves the server. Now I play alone, ok I'm improving my base to be an impenetrable fortress, yet always alone.
This is what I got as impression from yesterday night, in which Hibs zerg and Alb zerg passed the whole night/evening to cap Mid towers and keeps, no relic to be taken (that would give a reason), yet Mid retake couple of towers and a keep and Hibs keep coming, they never thought to switch on Albion.
This give me headache.
Is not this taking clearly advantage of a unbalanced situation (not saying is not legit, but I can say is kind of toxic at least for the server health) ?
PS: @Hibs: I'm ready just go on and crucify me on the public square with the usual comments, I acknowledge I'm exposed to that :V
Spot on, I logged on to Mid, joined the BG, Mid frontier was green again, despite there being 0 relics for Hib to take. We got out numbered, base line stunned and smashed to bits again.
I logged off bored and fed up, again.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 1:24 PM
by
mattymc
Desired or not, planned or not, they have recreated all that was wrong with live. Decisions have consequences
Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:13 PM
by
Forlornhope
Mids and albs should just not retake the keeps, then they'll have nothing to do. Maybe they'll actually for groups and roam if they have no keeps to take.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:27 PM
by
Kevan89
I got your point, maybe could be really a counter that can actually be done by Mids theirselves.Forlornhope wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:13 PMMids and albs should just not retake the keeps, then they'll have nothing to do. Maybe they'll actually for groups and roam if they have no keeps to take.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 3:05 PM
by
Forlornhope
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:27 PMI got your point, maybe could be really a counter that can actually be done by Mids theirselves.Forlornhope wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:13 PMMids and albs should just not retake the keeps, then they'll have nothing to do. Maybe they'll actually for groups and roam if they have no keeps to take.
At a certain point it really comes down more to numbers in a zerg situation, mid will never have as many people in their BGs as hibs or albs. So, I guess that could be the solution, more joining the bg, but I don't think that's a realistic one.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 3:10 PM
by
tyrantanic
mattymc wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 1:24 PMDesired or not, planned or not, they have recreated all that was wrong with live. Decisions have consequences
The biggest mistake was giving players the freedom to impact gameplay so harshly. This playerbase only wants what's easy, not what's best for the game which in turn would be best for all those who play. The devs may as well use the carrot on a stick approach and "force" balance as we're clearly incapable of it ourselves.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 3:25 PM
by
Vkejai
Let's be fair the reason the Hib population is more in RvR is because they have a leader who is online most days and at prime time. There are a lot of Alb and Mid players in that zerg too. Plus the relic hoppers of course.
Seems the zergers are now Hibs not Albs anymore, with the Mids doing more tasking. I remember not long ago it was the Mids who had the biggest zerg and Hibs were under populated.
I'm sure the wheel will turn again soon.
Seems the zergers are now Hibs not Albs anymore, with the Mids doing more tasking. I remember not long ago it was the Mids who had the biggest zerg and Hibs were under populated.
I'm sure the wheel will turn again soon.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 3:46 PM
by
Astaa
For what its worth, I am not sure why Hib are hammering Midgard atm, there is nothing to gain and Mids just run tasks, literally zerging empty towers/keeps. At least Albs would provide a fight.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 4:02 PM
by
DinoTriz
Astaa wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 3:46 PMFor what its worth, I am not sure why Hib are hammering Midgard atm, there is nothing to gain and Mids just run tasks, literally zerging empty towers/keeps. At least Albs would provide a fight.
Free RPs while mercilessly stomping your opponents face into the ground.
As much as I hate Hib, I completely understand why they do it. Honor is a myth. RPs are real.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 4:04 PM
by
thirian24
There is nothing to gain for Hibs in either Alb or Mid FZ (they own all 6 relics), but rest assured they will continue to PvDoor. What else are they going to do? The best thing I've heard so far, is to let Hib own every keep and tower. What would they do then? Would they roam for rvr and engage in open field combat? Likely they'd just zerg it up, but it would be hilarious to let them own all keeps and towers. No more PvDoor.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 5:01 PM
by
Forlornhope
Astaa wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 3:46 PMFor what its worth, I am not sure why Hib are hammering Midgard atm, there is nothing to gain and Mids just run tasks, literally zerging empty towers/keeps. At least Albs would provide a fight.
They want easy rps, which is the case with most people on this server. And since they get rewarded for taking empty keeps, via rvr tasks and just in general after they capture something, it's not going to change. That's why I think no one should recap any keeps they take, they will have nothing to do. It might actually force them to roam with smaller groups. Even if they just roam with their zerg looking for open field fights it would be better for the server as a whole. Just my opinion though lol.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 5:30 PM
by
Kevan89
Agree, Mids always say that we fight better in open field, even with less numbers it will be fun at least.Forlornhope wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 5:01 PMAstaa wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 3:46 PMFor what its worth, I am not sure why Hib are hammering Midgard atm, there is nothing to gain and Mids just run tasks, literally zerging empty towers/keeps. At least Albs would provide a fight.
They want easy rps, which is the case with most people on this server. And since they get rewarded for taking empty keeps, via rvr tasks and just in general after they capture something, it's not going to change. That's why I think no one should recap any keeps they take, they will have nothing to do. It might actually force them to roam with smaller groups. Even if they just roam with their zerg looking for open field fights it would be better for the server as a whole. Just my opinion though lol.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 6:09 PM
by
Helwyr
Gildar wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 12:00 AMIn my point of view it is the subculture of pros 8v8 that kill server.
Too many ppl was influenced and leave RvR to do a sort of Arena game ... insulting others if add their inc and Call others newbies ... no one can enter in their "magic circle" ... i know very well i was part of that circle for about 9 years ... Now i play lamost all my time in zerg ... only some evening i do 8v8
That kill game because casual players (the main part of playerbase) was excluded and many leave RvR zerg also because in some realm if you join zerg are a mindless chicken and be bullied in chat by pros 8v8.
So ppl leave RvR and server dies because pros have no more casuals to kill and to show how they are game gods
Yup, 100%. 8man subculture has been very harmful to DAoC, sure the solo duelist types are just as toxic, but nowhere near as impactful on the rest of the game. It's one of the big pluses for this server that the 8man culture only seems to dominate in one Realm, and it shows in threads like this one. This is totally speculation on my part, but I also wonder if nerfs like the changes to Bard Amnesia actually helped Hibernia by driving away from Hibernia much of the 8man crowd that will only play in perfect pre-made groups and hold the actual RvR game in complete disdain. The result being a stronger BG and guild groups that cooperate with the BG.
"Zergs" have never been a problem for DAoC. Now in other MMORPGs which were FFA, zerging combined with bandwagoning to the winning side has destroyed servers, but not in DAoC with its Realm vs Realm structure.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 8:10 PM
by
Gildar
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 12:37 PMAlmost everyone in here is saying something right, even Glidar (and it fucking hurts my brain saying that) with the 8vs8 lobby.
Thx
What I do not understand is: If i see that one part of the community is suffering in a black period (due whatever reason) and I keep stabbing and putting salt in the wounds I guess is not gonna help that part of community to improve or get up on feet.
Agree for some parte... but not all
Is not this taking clearly advantage of a unbalanced situation (not saying is not legit, but I can say is kind of toxic at least for the server health) ?
PS: @Hibs: I'm ready just go on and crucify me on the public square with the usual comments, I acknowledge I'm exposed to that :V
no One is ironic if you wrote intelligent things
EDIT: Also, before I get eaten alive by the Greenposters I'll add something: I'm not saying to leave in peace Midgard entirely but maybe try to challenge yourself and split the zerg to fight Alb and Mid on 2 differents front, maybe also just this could balance for a better RVR/zerg experience on both sides (even if guess you enjoy the easy RPs :V) .
Answers in Green above
Tue 1 Sep 2020 8:30 PM
by
Gildar
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:27 PMI got your point, maybe could be really a counter that can actually be done by Mids theirselves.Forlornhope wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:13 PMMids and albs should just not retake the keeps, then they'll have nothing to do. Maybe they'll actually for groups and roam if they have no keeps to take.
I think you are making a big mistake in judgment.
if you leave all the keep / towers to hibs you know what happens?
The zerg Hib starts doing flags and tasks in 5 fg sticks ... and then the server really dies.
you all said it ... RP are the force that moves the players and if there are no structures to take ... 80 toons in zerg chase groups and small to flags ... who has never met a bg in a fg? Did the bg let you go or did it chase you to the end of the world?
believe me ... against a bg the only thing that works is another bg ...
Tue 1 Sep 2020 8:59 PM
by
Forlornhope
Gildar wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 8:30 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:27 PMI got your point, maybe could be really a counter that can actually be done by Mids theirselves.Forlornhope wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:13 PMMids and albs should just not retake the keeps, then they'll have nothing to do. Maybe they'll actually for groups and roam if they have no keeps to take.
I think you are making a big mistake in judgment.
if you leave all the keep / towers to hibs you know what happens?
The zerg Hib starts doing flags and tasks in 5 fg sticks ... and then the server really dies.
you all said it ... RP are the force that moves the players and if there are no structures to take ... 80 toons in zerg chase groups and small to flags ... who has never met a bg in a fg? Did the bg let you go or did it chase you to the end of the world?
believe me ... against a bg the only thing that works is another bg ...
It might not be 80 people doing it, but multiple groups run together to do flags at all times. Not really all that much would change, and most people would rather fight a hib zerg in open field. The point is, they will have to actually work for it if they have to roam open field for rps. Even if you don't agree, most bgs get the vast majority of their rps by taking empty structures and frankly that's more detrimental to the server than the bg having to roam task zones.
Tue 1 Sep 2020 11:29 PM
by
Wakefield
Server is on the tipping point.
It happened on Uth, dont want it to happen here.
When people get fed up, whether it be pve or rvr, they leave in droves.
Uth had 3k+ plus those queueing. And look where that ended up.
Here is the opposite regarding PvE, no meaningful realm time, NF which benefits casters with all the towers. Archer buffs etc. I could go on.
But until the devs realise something isn't going right, I refuse to play anything but my pve toons
It happened on Uth, dont want it to happen here.
When people get fed up, whether it be pve or rvr, they leave in droves.
Uth had 3k+ plus those queueing. And look where that ended up.
Here is the opposite regarding PvE, no meaningful realm time, NF which benefits casters with all the towers. Archer buffs etc. I could go on.
But until the devs realise something isn't going right, I refuse to play anything but my pve toons
Wed 2 Sep 2020 2:41 AM
by
boridi
We grabbed a relic while you were pveing!Wakefield wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 11:29 PMServer is on the tipping point.
It happened on Uth, dont want it to happen here.
When people get fed up, whether it be pve or rvr, they leave in droves.
Uth had 3k+ plus those queueing. And look where that ended up.
Here is the opposite regarding PvE, no meaningful realm time, NF which benefits casters with all the towers. Archer buffs etc. I could go on.
But until the devs realise something isn't going right, I refuse to play anything but my pve toons
Wed 2 Sep 2020 7:49 AM
by
Spewy
Wakefield wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 11:29 PMServer is on the tipping point.
It happened on Uth, dont want it to happen here.
When people get fed up, whether it be pve or rvr, they leave in droves.
Uth had 3k+ plus those queueing. And look where that ended up.
Here is the opposite regarding PvE, no meaningful realm time, NF which benefits casters with all the towers. Archer buffs etc. I could go on.
But until the devs realise something isn't going right, I refuse to play anything but my pve toons
What are talking about??
Stop complaining because you get rekted in RvR
Check /u
There is always more than 60% of the population in Frontier!
This server have nothing to do with Uth, dev done a much much better job on every part
Thanks to them btw
Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:03 AM
by
Runental
The intentions of Pilzpower are sometimes incomprehensible, even if i appreciate his continuity and perseverance...
Yesterday was a great day in Midgard,- there were some epic fights at Bled when Mids wiped the s**** out of hibs and sent them back to DC..
The BG countet over 100 Mids, who mostly run together and managed to clear the paintball FZ atleast a bit and were able to took back Bled, even we had no port due the missing Glen port.
It was all the more incomprehensible afterwards when, after most of the EU players stopped, he came back to Bledmeer with his 90 men Zerg to raid an empty level 2 keep. Which brought him nothing, absolutely nothing. It was just like "now we have it", nothing more.
Anyway,- good day yesterday for Midgard,- it seems, if mids have the will, they are still able to counter and compete.
Yesterday was a great day in Midgard,- there were some epic fights at Bled when Mids wiped the s**** out of hibs and sent them back to DC..
The BG countet over 100 Mids, who mostly run together and managed to clear the paintball FZ atleast a bit and were able to took back Bled, even we had no port due the missing Glen port.
It was all the more incomprehensible afterwards when, after most of the EU players stopped, he came back to Bledmeer with his 90 men Zerg to raid an empty level 2 keep. Which brought him nothing, absolutely nothing. It was just like "now we have it", nothing more.
Anyway,- good day yesterday for Midgard,- it seems, if mids have the will, they are still able to counter and compete.
Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:16 AM
by
Bowie
Gildar wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 8:30 PMzerg chase groups and small to flags ... who has never met a bg in a fg? Did the bg let you go or did it chase you to the end of the world?
believe me ... against a bg the only thing that works is another bg ...
This is already happening in EV.
It's called Dark Templars daily routine
Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:50 AM
by
Noashakra
Bowie wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:16 AMGildar wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 8:30 PMzerg chase groups and small to flags ... who has never met a bg in a fg? Did the bg let you go or did it chase you to the end of the world?
believe me ... against a bg the only thing that works is another bg ...
This is already happening in EV.
It's called Dark Templars daily routine
I thought Maxistoo never did that according to the GM!
Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:49 AM
by
DJ2000
From 09.August to today 02.September.
21 Pages of the same nonsense over and over and over again.
0 Progression? Nothing learned?
21 Pages of the same nonsense over and over and over again.
0 Progression? Nothing learned?
Wed 2 Sep 2020 10:47 AM
by
DJ2000
I was part of that battle, and i can say for sure that, regardless of the outcome, there must have been great moments for both sides fighting a 3 Stage Battle at Bledmeer. Which started as Hibernia was just a couple of seconds (!) too late to prevent Midgard to take over the Keep.Runental wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:03 AMThe intentions of Pilzpower are sometimes incomprehensible, even if i appreciate his continuity and perseverance...
Yesterday was a great day in Midgard,- there were some epic fights at Bled when Mids wiped the s**** out of hibs and sent them back to DC..
The BG countet over 100 Mids, who mostly run together and managed to clear the paintball FZ atleast a bit and were able to took back Bled, even we had no port due the missing Glen port.
It was all the more incomprehensible afterwards when, after most of the EU players stopped, he came back to Bledmeer with his 90 men Zerg to raid an empty level 2 keep. Which brought him nothing, absolutely nothing. It was just like "now we have it", nothing more.
Anyway,- good day yesterday for Midgard,- it seems, if mids have the will, they are still able to counter and compete.
1. Outside the Keep the battle to prevent reinforcements of Hibernia to enter.
2. CY/Wall Battle which could lead to tip the advantage on the other 2 Battles.
3. The Lord/Roof battle was especially exciting, Hibernia controlling Lord Room, as the Lord in its final moments was even down to 1%. That would mean the Reinforcement from Hibernia could enter, while the Midgard Forces outside would be locked out, and push/clear into CY/Wall Fight deciding the Battle.
But the Midgard Side won the Lord/roof battle, prevented any further reinforcements from outside and pushed into the CY/Wall.
That could have gone easily the other way. Fun and long battle all around. And everyone got pretty nice Participation i assume, to top it off.
(i had the unfortunate part of trying to heal a Rag-Tag bunch of Tanks as a Mentalist)
I am very certain that moments like this, for ALL Sides, are the moments we play for. Regardless of the outcome. This is where i wish the Server would be for everyone.
Wed 2 Sep 2020 11:09 AM
by
swap89
Runental wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:03 AMThe intentions of Pilzpower are sometimes incomprehensible, even if i appreciate his continuity and perseverance...
Yesterday was a great day in Midgard,- there were some epic fights at Bled when Mids wiped the s**** out of hibs and sent them back to DC..
The BG countet over 100 Mids, who mostly run together and managed to clear the paintball FZ atleast a bit and were able to took back Bled, even we had no port due the missing Glen port.
It was all the more incomprehensible afterwards when, after most of the EU players stopped, he came back to Bledmeer with his 90 men Zerg to raid an empty level 2 keep. Which brought him nothing, absolutely nothing. It was just like "now we have it", nothing more.
Anyway,- good day yesterday for Midgard,- it seems, if mids have the will, they are still able to counter and compete.
I am happy to have seen a well driven and very strong 100+ bg mid last night. When these two components are present you see that the question of classes takes a back seat.
Nice battles at bled and glenlock.
When you say that inc just keep empty, it's only because there is no one to defend ... Yesterday we tried inc bledmeer and you were 90 inside, just for the fun of fighting despite the high probability of death.
when you stop i go to bed too so dont know what happen after.
However, I hope this is the beginning of your awakening to improve this situation.
Bye Smap
Wed 2 Sep 2020 1:45 PM
by
Wakefield
boridi wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 2:41 AMWe grabbed a relic while you were pveing!Wakefield wrote: ↑Tue 1 Sep 2020 11:29 PMServer is on the tipping point.
It happened on Uth, dont want it to happen here.
When people get fed up, whether it be pve or rvr, they leave in droves.
Uth had 3k+ plus those queueing. And look where that ended up.
Here is the opposite regarding PvE, no meaningful realm time, NF which benefits casters with all the towers. Archer buffs etc. I could go on.
But until the devs realise something isn't going right, I refuse to play anything but my pve toons
Grats, still doesnt make me want to jump on my main or my aug shammie though.
And for the comment about being "recked" it really isn't hard to zerg down 3-4fg with a 100+ person bg.
Wed 2 Sep 2020 2:35 PM
by
gnefner
swap89 wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 11:09 AMRunental wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:03 AMThe intentions of Pilzpower are sometimes incomprehensible, even if i appreciate his continuity and perseverance...
Yesterday was a great day in Midgard,- there were some epic fights at Bled when Mids wiped the s**** out of hibs and sent them back to DC..
The BG countet over 100 Mids, who mostly run together and managed to clear the paintball FZ atleast a bit and were able to took back Bled, even we had no port due the missing Glen port.
It was all the more incomprehensible afterwards when, after most of the EU players stopped, he came back to Bledmeer with his 90 men Zerg to raid an empty level 2 keep. Which brought him nothing, absolutely nothing. It was just like "now we have it", nothing more.
Anyway,- good day yesterday for Midgard,- it seems, if mids have the will, they are still able to counter and compete.
I am happy to have seen a well driven and very strong 100+ bg mid last night. When these two components are present you see that the question of classes takes a back seat.
Nice battles at bled and glenlock.
When you say that inc just keep empty, it's only because there is no one to defend ... Yesterday we tried inc bledmeer and you were 90 inside, just for the fun of fighting despite the high probability of death.
when you stop i go to bed too so dont know what happen after.
However, I hope this is the beginning of your awakening to improve this situation.
Bye Smap
Or.. You could start attacking Alb.. FFS!! Alb is completely red all damn day, while Mid is turned green... why? It makes NO sense.. You KNOW we're struggling.. It's like Pilz (hibs) have just turned into the angry bully in kindergarten, who just wants to hammer the lil' kid...
Wed 2 Sep 2020 3:18 PM
by
Wakefield
gnefner wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 2:35 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 11:09 AMRunental wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:03 AMThe intentions of Pilzpower are sometimes incomprehensible, even if i appreciate his continuity and perseverance...
Yesterday was a great day in Midgard,- there were some epic fights at Bled when Mids wiped the s**** out of hibs and sent them back to DC..
The BG countet over 100 Mids, who mostly run together and managed to clear the paintball FZ atleast a bit and were able to took back Bled, even we had no port due the missing Glen port.
It was all the more incomprehensible afterwards when, after most of the EU players stopped, he came back to Bledmeer with his 90 men Zerg to raid an empty level 2 keep. Which brought him nothing, absolutely nothing. It was just like "now we have it", nothing more.
Anyway,- good day yesterday for Midgard,- it seems, if mids have the will, they are still able to counter and compete.
I am happy to have seen a well driven and very strong 100+ bg mid last night. When these two components are present you see that the question of classes takes a back seat.
Nice battles at bled and glenlock.
When you say that inc just keep empty, it's only because there is no one to defend ... Yesterday we tried inc bledmeer and you were 90 inside, just for the fun of fighting despite the high probability of death.
when you stop i go to bed too so dont know what happen after.
However, I hope this is the beginning of your awakening to improve this situation.
Bye Smap
Or.. You could start attacking Alb.. FFS!! Alb is completely red all damn day, while Mid is turned green... why? It makes NO sense.. You KNOW we're struggling.. It's like Pilz (hibs) have just turned into the angry bully in kindergarten, who just wants to hammer the lil' kid...
Pilz ego is bruised as he thought he was going be worshipped as some zerg god when he switched. Instead of standing back and supporting/ coaching and allowing the existing bg leads who are ones stepping up to the plate, he turned and run back to his premade zerg.
That's the funny thing, Hibs zerg were doing perfectly fine without Smap and Pilz, was more of an ego thing that made them turn tail after 5 days
Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:05 PM
by
imweasel
Wakefield wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 3:18 PMgnefner wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 2:35 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 11:09 AMRunental wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:03 AMThe intentions of Pilzpower are sometimes incomprehensible, even if i appreciate his continuity and perseverance...
Yesterday was a great day in Midgard,- there were some epic fights at Bled when Mids wiped the s**** out of hibs and sent them back to DC..
The BG countet over 100 Mids, who mostly run together and managed to clear the paintball FZ atleast a bit and were able to took back Bled, even we had no port due the missing Glen port.
It was all the more incomprehensible afterwards when, after most of the EU players stopped, he came back to Bledmeer with his 90 men Zerg to raid an empty level 2 keep. Which brought him nothing, absolutely nothing. It was just like "now we have it", nothing more.
Anyway,- good day yesterday for Midgard,- it seems, if mids have the will, they are still able to counter and compete.
I am happy to have seen a well driven and very strong 100+ bg mid last night. When these two components are present you see that the question of classes takes a back seat.
Nice battles at bled and glenlock.
When you say that inc just keep empty, it's only because there is no one to defend ... Yesterday we tried inc bledmeer and you were 90 inside, just for the fun of fighting despite the high probability of death.
when you stop i go to bed too so dont know what happen after.
However, I hope this is the beginning of your awakening to improve this situation.
Bye Smap
Or.. You could start attacking Alb.. FFS!! Alb is completely red all damn day, while Mid is turned green... why? It makes NO sense.. You KNOW we're struggling.. It's like Pilz (hibs) have just turned into the angry bully in kindergarten, who just wants to hammer the lil' kid...
Pilz ego is bruised as he thought he was going be worshipped as some zerg god when he switched. Instead of standing back and supporting/ coaching and allowing the existing bg leads who are ones stepping up to the plate, he turned and run back to his premade zerg.
That's the funny thing, Hibs zerg were doing perfectly fine without Smap and Pilz, was more of an ego thing that made them turn tail after 5 days
Maybe. Also maybe he just didn't like the realm he was playing in.
Midgard is a great idea that was poorly implemented and not really finished/polished. I've got a couple of toons and I just don't like it. I prefer alb/hib.
Maybe they do too...
Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PM
by
Tyrlaan
imweasel wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:05 PMMaybe. Also maybe he just didn't like the realm he was playing in.
Midgard is a great idea that was poorly implemented and not really finished/polished. I've got a couple of toons and I just don't like it. I prefer alb/hib.
Maybe they do too...
Don´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
Wed 2 Sep 2020 7:40 PM
by
Noashakra
Tyrlaan wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PMDon´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
If you think pilz is a god on hib, man, you don't know what you speak about.
It's greatest quality is consitency, not strategy.
He was there day after day, even with only 10 people sticking him in hard times. And this, you can't deny he is great at it.
Wed 2 Sep 2020 8:20 PM
by
caelio
Noashakra wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 7:40 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PMDon´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
If you think pilz is a god on hib, man, you don't know what you speak about.
It's greatest quality is consitency, not strategy.
He was there day after day, even with only 10 people sticking him in hard times. And this, you can't deny he is great at it.
he bought the catapults and asked the players to use them
Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:08 PM
by
Fiatil
Tyrlaan wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PMimweasel wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:05 PMMaybe. Also maybe he just didn't like the realm he was playing in.
Midgard is a great idea that was poorly implemented and not really finished/polished. I've got a couple of toons and I just don't like it. I prefer alb/hib.
Maybe they do too...
Don´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
Midgard's problem is 10000% their battlegroup, and Pilz proved that really quickly. I don't think Pilz is a god -- I do think his best trait is that he just hammers away and is there doing the same thing over and over. It works, people in Hib trust his battlegroups aren't going to waste their time, and it's effective.
His crew went to Midgard for like a week and Midgard was killing it with him as BG leader. Hibernia didn't just completely die -- there are a lot of other competent BG leaders in the realm, and it probably helps having him around to observe and learn from. But Midgard performed drastically better in the short time he was leading BGs there.
I heard a rumor that Pilz went to Mid, but wasn't sure (the post on the forums was in broken english). As soon as I logged in and checked the hib frontier in /rw, I immediately knew that it was true. Our frontier and Midgard's had pretty much swapped -- the realm map looked like Pilz was running the show, but leading a blue tide in Hib land instead of a green tide in Mid land. The deathspam proved that correct, and he managed to grab a relic in the short amount of time they were there.
It's objective truth -- Pilz went to Mid, and Mid did drastically better while he was there. Pilz leaves, and now we're back to big whining threads about how OP Hib is and how Midgard has no chance. From what I hear, Midgard's BG leadership is a bit full of themselves and didn't seem to like that they were being outshone so immediately and so obviously. As a Hib I was thrilled that the brain trust over there decided to flame his crew until he came back to Hib -- and hey look, you reap what you sow with threads like this. It's absurd to act like he made no difference -- he very quickly proved that Midgard does not have a class balance problem; they have a leadership problem.
Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:36 PM
by
Runental
Bring more @ Bled!!!
Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:45 PM
by
mattymc
Fiatil wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:08 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PMimweasel wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:05 PMMaybe. Also maybe he just didn't like the realm he was playing in.
Midgard is a great idea that was poorly implemented and not really finished/polished. I've got a couple of toons and I just don't like it. I prefer alb/hib.
Maybe they do too...
Don´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
Midgard's problem is 10000% their battlegroup, and Pilz proved that really quickly. I don't think Pilz is a god -- I do think his best trait is that he just hammers away and is there doing the same thing over and over. It works, people in Hib trust his battlegroups aren't going to waste their time, and it's effective.
His crew went to Midgard for like a week and Midgard was killing it with him as BG leader. Hibernia didn't just completely die -- there are a lot of other competent BG leaders in the realm, and it probably helps having him around to observe and learn from. But Midgard performed drastically better in the short time he was leading BGs there.
I heard a rumor that Pilz went to Mid, but wasn't sure (the post on the forums was in broken english). As soon as I logged in and checked the hib frontier in /rw, I immediately knew that it was true. Our frontier and Midgard's had pretty much swapped -- the realm map looked like Pilz was running the show, but leading a blue tide in Hib land instead of a green tide in Mid land. The deathspam proved that correct, and he managed to grab a relic in the short amount of time they were there.
It's objective truth -- Pilz went to Mid, and Mid did drastically better while he was there. Pilz leaves, and now we're back to big whining threads about how OP Hib is and how Midgard has no chance. From what I hear, Midgard's BG leadership is a bit full of themselves and didn't seem to like that they were being outshone so immediately and so obviously. As a Hib I was thrilled that the brain trust over there decided to flame his crew until he came back to Hib -- and hey look, you reap what you sow with threads like this. It's absurd to act like he made no difference -- he very quickly proved that Midgard does not have a class balance problem; they have a leadership problem.
you need to check your Meds -- you Know not of which you speak.
Wed 2 Sep 2020 10:00 PM
by
Forlornhope
Fiatil wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:08 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PMimweasel wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:05 PMMaybe. Also maybe he just didn't like the realm he was playing in.
Midgard is a great idea that was poorly implemented and not really finished/polished. I've got a couple of toons and I just don't like it. I prefer alb/hib.
Maybe they do too...
Don´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
Midgard's problem is 10000% their battlegroup, and Pilz proved that really quickly. I don't think Pilz is a god -- I do think his best trait is that he just hammers away and is there doing the same thing over and over. It works, people in Hib trust his battlegroups aren't going to waste their time, and it's effective.
His crew went to Midgard for like a week and Midgard was killing it with him as BG leader. Hibernia didn't just completely die -- there are a lot of other competent BG leaders in the realm, and it probably helps having him around to observe and learn from. But Midgard performed drastically better in the short time he was leading BGs there.
I heard a rumor that Pilz went to Mid, but wasn't sure (the post on the forums was in broken english). As soon as I logged in and checked the hib frontier in /rw, I immediately knew that it was true. Our frontier and Midgard's had pretty much swapped -- the realm map looked like Pilz was running the show, but leading a blue tide in Hib land instead of a green tide in Mid land. The deathspam proved that correct, and he managed to grab a relic in the short amount of time they were there.
It's objective truth -- Pilz went to Mid, and Mid did drastically better while he was there. Pilz leaves, and now we're back to big whining threads about how OP Hib is and how Midgard has no chance. From what I hear, Midgard's BG leadership is a bit full of themselves and didn't seem to like that they were being outshone so immediately and so obviously. As a Hib I was thrilled that the brain trust over there decided to flame his crew until he came back to Hib -- and hey look, you reap what you sow with threads like this. It's absurd to act like he made no difference -- he very quickly proved that Midgard does not have a class balance problem; they have a leadership problem.
You heard wrong, I've said this a few times on this thread and possibly others. Pilz was trying to take over the bg on a realm event that an alliance runs every Sunday. When they wouldn't give him the lead -which frankly, why should they?- rather than running with the BG and supporting the event that mid's been doing for over a year he left and went back to hib. That doesn't scream good leader to me.
Wed 2 Sep 2020 11:12 PM
by
Gildar
Forlornhope wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 10:00 PMFiatil wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:08 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PMimweasel wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:05 PMMaybe. Also maybe he just didn't like the realm he was playing in.
Midgard is a great idea that was poorly implemented and not really finished/polished. I've got a couple of toons and I just don't like it. I prefer alb/hib.
Maybe they do too...
Don´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
Midgard's problem is 10000% their battlegroup, and Pilz proved that really quickly. I don't think Pilz is a god -- I do think his best trait is that he just hammers away and is there doing the same thing over and over. It works, people in Hib trust his battlegroups aren't going to waste their time, and it's effective.
His crew went to Midgard for like a week and Midgard was killing it with him as BG leader. Hibernia didn't just completely die -- there are a lot of other competent BG leaders in the realm, and it probably helps having him around to observe and learn from. But Midgard performed drastically better in the short time he was leading BGs there.
I heard a rumor that Pilz went to Mid, but wasn't sure (the post on the forums was in broken english). As soon as I logged in and checked the hib frontier in /rw, I immediately knew that it was true. Our frontier and Midgard's had pretty much swapped -- the realm map looked like Pilz was running the show, but leading a blue tide in Hib land instead of a green tide in Mid land. The deathspam proved that correct, and he managed to grab a relic in the short amount of time they were there.
It's objective truth -- Pilz went to Mid, and Mid did drastically better while he was there. Pilz leaves, and now we're back to big whining threads about how OP Hib is and how Midgard has no chance. From what I hear, Midgard's BG leadership is a bit full of themselves and didn't seem to like that they were being outshone so immediately and so obviously. As a Hib I was thrilled that the brain trust over there decided to flame his crew until he came back to Hib -- and hey look, you reap what you sow with threads like this. It's absurd to act like he made no difference -- he very quickly proved that Midgard does not have a class balance problem; they have a leadership problem.
You heard wrong, I've said this a few times on this thread and possibly others. Pilz was trying to take over the bg on a realm event that an alliance runs every Sunday. When they wouldn't give him the lead -which frankly, why should they?- rather than running with the BG and supporting the event that mid's been doing for over a year he left and went back to hib. That doesn't scream good leader to me.
Yes.
But is a fact that in the Week Pilz coming in Mid ... Mid BG do really well... when he leave (no matter what the reason) Mid BG is ... what is now
We in Hib are lucky anyway because, as other guy wrote before " there are a lot of other competent BG leaders in the realm".
I think no other realm can enlist so many good Bg leaders like Hib atm ... Hib ppl join fast almost any Bg up, knowing that a good lead is in charge (my preferred is Gilboom as you know) and BG rolling well
Wed 2 Sep 2020 11:51 PM
by
Wakefield
Forlornhope wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 10:00 PMFiatil wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:08 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PMimweasel wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:05 PMMaybe. Also maybe he just didn't like the realm he was playing in.
Midgard is a great idea that was poorly implemented and not really finished/polished. I've got a couple of toons and I just don't like it. I prefer alb/hib.
Maybe they do too...
Don´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
Midgard's problem is 10000% their battlegroup, and Pilz proved that really quickly. I don't think Pilz is a god -- I do think his best trait is that he just hammers away and is there doing the same thing over and over. It works, people in Hib trust his battlegroups aren't going to waste their time, and it's effective.
His crew went to Midgard for like a week and Midgard was killing it with him as BG leader. Hibernia didn't just completely die -- there are a lot of other competent BG leaders in the realm, and it probably helps having him around to observe and learn from. But Midgard performed drastically better in the short time he was leading BGs there.
I heard a rumor that Pilz went to Mid, but wasn't sure (the post on the forums was in broken english). As soon as I logged in and checked the hib frontier in /rw, I immediately knew that it was true. Our frontier and Midgard's had pretty much swapped -- the realm map looked like Pilz was running the show, but leading a blue tide in Hib land instead of a green tide in Mid land. The deathspam proved that correct, and he managed to grab a relic in the short amount of time they were there.
It's objective truth -- Pilz went to Mid, and Mid did drastically better while he was there. Pilz leaves, and now we're back to big whining threads about how OP Hib is and how Midgard has no chance. From what I hear, Midgard's BG leadership is a bit full of themselves and didn't seem to like that they were being outshone so immediately and so obviously. As a Hib I was thrilled that the brain trust over there decided to flame his crew until he came back to Hib -- and hey look, you reap what you sow with threads like this. It's absurd to act like he made no difference -- he very quickly proved that Midgard does not have a class balance problem; they have a leadership problem.
You heard wrong, I've said this a few times on this thread and possibly others. Pilz was trying to take over the bg on a realm event that an alliance runs every Sunday. When they wouldn't give him the lead -which frankly, why should they?- rather than running with the BG and supporting the event that mid's been doing for over a year he left and went back to hib. That doesn't scream good leader to me.
Exactly.
Instead of lending support to a monthly event, he threw the teddies out and left.
Bad leadership? No
Bad ego trip? Probably
What Pilz needed to realise was when he needed to win over the masses to get them on his side after months of needlessly zerging Mid CONSTANTLY.
At points, ignoring Alb completely.
Loyalty still means something thank god, least with hardcore snow munches which a lot of of us Middies are.
Turning up and proclaiming your the messiah, isn't gonna win you support. You got to earn respect before people follow you.
Hell, Johny, Oaden, Ana and Loola have my respect, even though sometimes it's a losing battle as at least they stay and not demand leadership. They have EARNED it
Thu 3 Sep 2020 3:17 AM
by
Forlornhope
Gildar wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 11:12 PMForlornhope wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 10:00 PMFiatil wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 9:08 PMTyrlaan wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:27 PMimweasel wrote: ↑Wed 2 Sep 2020 5:05 PMMaybe. Also maybe he just didn't like the realm he was playing in.
Midgard is a great idea that was poorly implemented and not really finished/polished. I've got a couple of toons and I just don't like it. I prefer alb/hib.
Maybe they do too...
Don´t you shatter their illusion that it´s their greatness, BG leaders and skill or lack thereof in Mid that made this a Hib-dominant server.
Midgard's problem is 10000% their battlegroup, and Pilz proved that really quickly. I don't think Pilz is a god -- I do think his best trait is that he just hammers away and is there doing the same thing over and over. It works, people in Hib trust his battlegroups aren't going to waste their time, and it's effective.
His crew went to Midgard for like a week and Midgard was killing it with him as BG leader. Hibernia didn't just completely die -- there are a lot of other competent BG leaders in the realm, and it probably helps having him around to observe and learn from. But Midgard performed drastically better in the short time he was leading BGs there.
I heard a rumor that Pilz went to Mid, but wasn't sure (the post on the forums was in broken english). As soon as I logged in and checked the hib frontier in /rw, I immediately knew that it was true. Our frontier and Midgard's had pretty much swapped -- the realm map looked like Pilz was running the show, but leading a blue tide in Hib land instead of a green tide in Mid land. The deathspam proved that correct, and he managed to grab a relic in the short amount of time they were there.
It's objective truth -- Pilz went to Mid, and Mid did drastically better while he was there. Pilz leaves, and now we're back to big whining threads about how OP Hib is and how Midgard has no chance. From what I hear, Midgard's BG leadership is a bit full of themselves and didn't seem to like that they were being outshone so immediately and so obviously. As a Hib I was thrilled that the brain trust over there decided to flame his crew until he came back to Hib -- and hey look, you reap what you sow with threads like this. It's absurd to act like he made no difference -- he very quickly proved that Midgard does not have a class balance problem; they have a leadership problem.
You heard wrong, I've said this a few times on this thread and possibly others. Pilz was trying to take over the bg on a realm event that an alliance runs every Sunday. When they wouldn't give him the lead -which frankly, why should they?- rather than running with the BG and supporting the event that mid's been doing for over a year he left and went back to hib. That doesn't scream good leader to me.
Yes.
But is a fact that in the Week Pilz coming in Mid ... Mid BG do really well... when he leave (no matter what the reason) Mid BG is ... what is now
We in Hib are lucky anyway because, as other guy wrote before " there are a lot of other competent BG leaders in the realm".
I think no other realm can enlist so many good Bg leaders like Hib atm ... Hib ppl join fast almost any Bg up, knowing that a good lead is in charge (my preferred is Gilboom as you know) and BG rolling well
Not disagreeing with anything else he said, I was just correcting the reason Pilz left. Frankly I don't play in Bgs anymore unless I am too drunk to do anything else so none of it actually matters to me.
Thu 3 Sep 2020 7:41 AM
by
swap89
you talk at random sorry if I tell you.
We joined midgard because the situation had become boring.
I personally didn't enjoy myself in that realm and I had already told pilz that I would be back on hib.
in 4 days in mid we made good bg with results.
Johny is the bg on Sunday afternoon.
He makes mistakes, pilz points it out to him, maybe I admit it wrongly.
Johny exits the game.
The bg picks it up an unknown Unwar.All the people in bg asks this person to pass the lead to pilz.Unwar does not respond.
He makes us die 4-5 times with his decisions and he calls us SPIES
We logged out and went back to hibernia.
On midgard we found many nice and good people. Loola, Getroasted, same johny.
But many other idiots too
I asked for advice to us to go back to hibernia, that they didn't want us there, that they call us spies, that we ruined the game etcect.
And we didn't have much fun in that realm in all of this.
so all in all we decided to go back.
We have fun on hibernia, now that polemo is back even more.
So stop talking without knowing.
Pilz has been bg for 2 years, he has taught a lot to the hibernia realm and if there are other people who know how to drive bg it is thanks to him that they have learned joining his bg.
He is not god and no one calls him such.
he is simply a person who is more experienced than others in certain aspects of the game.
I have known him for months and besides playing I find him a good person in general.
So if you don't know him, stop talking.
And to judge try to contribute what he did for the server and for the realm.
greetings Smap
We joined midgard because the situation had become boring.
I personally didn't enjoy myself in that realm and I had already told pilz that I would be back on hib.
in 4 days in mid we made good bg with results.
Johny is the bg on Sunday afternoon.
He makes mistakes, pilz points it out to him, maybe I admit it wrongly.
Johny exits the game.
The bg picks it up an unknown Unwar.All the people in bg asks this person to pass the lead to pilz.Unwar does not respond.
He makes us die 4-5 times with his decisions and he calls us SPIES
We logged out and went back to hibernia.
On midgard we found many nice and good people. Loola, Getroasted, same johny.
But many other idiots too
I asked for advice to us to go back to hibernia, that they didn't want us there, that they call us spies, that we ruined the game etcect.
And we didn't have much fun in that realm in all of this.
so all in all we decided to go back.
We have fun on hibernia, now that polemo is back even more.
So stop talking without knowing.
Pilz has been bg for 2 years, he has taught a lot to the hibernia realm and if there are other people who know how to drive bg it is thanks to him that they have learned joining his bg.
He is not god and no one calls him such.
he is simply a person who is more experienced than others in certain aspects of the game.
I have known him for months and besides playing I find him a good person in general.
So if you don't know him, stop talking.
And to judge try to contribute what he did for the server and for the realm.
greetings Smap
Thu 3 Sep 2020 7:45 AM
by
Sepplord
Pilz also didn't come alone....afaik (hearsay, correct me if i am wrong) he came with a considerable amount of players, meaning Hib was missing those players and midgard had them extra.
Don't get me wrong, it IS impressive that Pilz has so much power and control. And i am not denying he earned that with his unyielding and adamant playstyle.
But it doesn't mean that midgard ONLY has a leadership problem.
There are tons of other possibilities, including the possibility that it is a class-balance problem that lead to the numbers disadvantage.
Personally i believe that leadership is a part of the problem, but it is hard to gauge what the actual reasons are....could be only leadership, could be classbalance leading to numbers disadvantage, could be just a fluke and in a few months the dominating realm is a different one again
Don't get me wrong, it IS impressive that Pilz has so much power and control. And i am not denying he earned that with his unyielding and adamant playstyle.
But it doesn't mean that midgard ONLY has a leadership problem.
There are tons of other possibilities, including the possibility that it is a class-balance problem that lead to the numbers disadvantage.
Personally i believe that leadership is a part of the problem, but it is hard to gauge what the actual reasons are....could be only leadership, could be classbalance leading to numbers disadvantage, could be just a fluke and in a few months the dominating realm is a different one again
Thu 3 Sep 2020 10:40 AM
by
Stoertebecker
I don`t know what you want, wasn`t that bad at all yesterday between 8 and 11 pm (euro time).
If ppl expect a Midzerg with 80+ppl 16h each day... those days are gone.
If ppl expect a Midzerg with 80+ppl 16h each day... those days are gone.
Thu 3 Sep 2020 10:58 AM
by
Chia
swap89 wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 7:41 AMyou talk at random sorry if I tell you.
We joined midgard because the situation had become boring.
I personally didn't enjoy myself in that realm and I had already told pilz that I would be back on hib.
in 4 days in mid we made good bg with results.
Johny is the bg on Sunday afternoon.
He makes mistakes, pilz points it out to him, maybe I admit it wrongly.
Johny exits the game.
The bg picks it up an unknown Unwar.All the people in bg asks this person to pass the lead to pilz.Unwar does not respond.
He makes us die 4-5 times with his decisions and he calls us SPIES
We logged out and went back to hibernia.
On midgard we found many nice and good people. Loola, Getroasted, same johny.
But many other idiots too
I asked for advice to us to go back to hibernia, that they didn't want us there, that they call us spies, that we ruined the game etcect.
And we didn't have much fun in that realm in all of this.
so all in all we decided to go back.
We have fun on hibernia, now that polemo is back even more.
So stop talking without knowing.
Pilz has been bg for 2 years, he has taught a lot to the hibernia realm and if there are other people who know how to drive bg it is thanks to him that they have learned joining his bg.
He is not god and no one calls him such.
he is simply a person who is more experienced than others in certain aspects of the game.
I have known him for months and besides playing I find him a good person in general.
So if you don't know him, stop talking.
And to judge try to contribute what he did for the server and for the realm.
greetings Smap
Good riddance
Thu 3 Sep 2020 11:06 AM
by
swap89
Chia wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 10:58 AMswap89 wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 7:41 AMyou talk at random sorry if I tell you.
We joined midgard because the situation had become boring.
I personally didn't enjoy myself in that realm and I had already told pilz that I would be back on hib.
in 4 days in mid we made good bg with results.
Johny is the bg on Sunday afternoon.
He makes mistakes, pilz points it out to him, maybe I admit it wrongly.
Johny exits the game.
The bg picks it up an unknown Unwar.All the people in bg asks this person to pass the lead to pilz.Unwar does not respond.
He makes us die 4-5 times with his decisions and he calls us SPIES
We logged out and went back to hibernia.
On midgard we found many nice and good people. Loola, Getroasted, same johny.
But many other idiots too
I asked for advice to us to go back to hibernia, that they didn't want us there, that they call us spies, that we ruined the game etcect.
And we didn't have much fun in that realm in all of this.
so all in all we decided to go back.
We have fun on hibernia, now that polemo is back even more.
So stop talking without knowing.
Pilz has been bg for 2 years, he has taught a lot to the hibernia realm and if there are other people who know how to drive bg it is thanks to him that they have learned joining his bg.
He is not god and no one calls him such.
he is simply a person who is more experienced than others in certain aspects of the game.
I have known him for months and besides playing I find him a good person in general.
So if you don't know him, stop talking.
And to judge try to contribute what he did for the server and for the realm.
greetings Smap
Good riddance
very deep and intelligent comment ... hahaha
Thu 3 Sep 2020 11:12 AM
by
skipari
Had good fun the last two days and made it from level 36 to 39 too 
Its not perfect, but there was a good amount of good fights in my uneducated opinion.
Its not perfect, but there was a good amount of good fights in my uneducated opinion.
Thu 3 Sep 2020 12:11 PM
by
DinoTriz
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 10:40 AMI don`t know what you want, wasn`t that bad at all yesterday between 8 and 11 pm (euro time).
If ppl expect a Midzerg with 80+ppl 16h each day... those days are gone.
They are temporarily gone.
The North will rise again!
Thu 3 Sep 2020 1:15 PM
by
Stoertebecker
DinoTriz wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 12:11 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 10:40 AMI don`t know what you want, wasn`t that bad at all yesterday between 8 and 11 pm (euro time).
If ppl expect a Midzerg with 80+ppl 16h each day... those days are gone.
They are temporarily gone.
The North will rise again!
Only if you raise the number of players for 3-5oo and hinder them from joining Hib, the ppl go where they can make brain-afk rp`s.
Thu 3 Sep 2020 1:52 PM
by
gnefner
swap89 wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 7:41 AMyou talk at random sorry if I tell you.
We joined midgard because the situation had become boring.
I personally didn't enjoy myself in that realm and I had already told pilz that I would be back on hib.
in 4 days in mid we made good bg with results.
Johny is the bg on Sunday afternoon.
He makes mistakes, pilz points it out to him, maybe I admit it wrongly.
Johny exits the game.
The bg picks it up an unknown Unwar.All the people in bg asks this person to pass the lead to pilz.Unwar does not respond.
He makes us die 4-5 times with his decisions and he calls us SPIES
We logged out and went back to hibernia.
On midgard we found many nice and good people. Loola, Getroasted, same johny.
But many other idiots too
I asked for advice to us to go back to hibernia, that they didn't want us there, that they call us spies, that we ruined the game etcect.
And we didn't have much fun in that realm in all of this.
so all in all we decided to go back.
We have fun on hibernia, now that polemo is back even more.
So stop talking without knowing.
Pilz has been bg for 2 years, he has taught a lot to the hibernia realm and if there are other people who know how to drive bg it is thanks to him that they have learned joining his bg.
He is not god and no one calls him such.
he is simply a person who is more experienced than others in certain aspects of the game.
I have known him for months and besides playing I find him a good person in general.
So if you don't know him, stop talking.
And to judge try to contribute what he did for the server and for the realm.
greetings Smap
If you have fun now, that Polemo is back.. Why the hell don't you attack Alb, and have good fights with his zerg, instead of hammering Mid, still?? We have no BG, no relics.. Nothing... I'ts moronic and counterproductive. Yet Alb is full red, all the time..
You talk about wanting good zerg fights, yet continue to attack the realm that can't muster a BG.. And you don't see the problem.. Lol.
Thu 3 Sep 2020 1:56 PM
by
Valaraukar
gnefner wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 1:52 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 7:41 AMyou talk at random sorry if I tell you.
We joined midgard because the situation had become boring.
I personally didn't enjoy myself in that realm and I had already told pilz that I would be back on hib.
in 4 days in mid we made good bg with results.
Johny is the bg on Sunday afternoon.
He makes mistakes, pilz points it out to him, maybe I admit it wrongly.
Johny exits the game.
The bg picks it up an unknown Unwar.All the people in bg asks this person to pass the lead to pilz.Unwar does not respond.
He makes us die 4-5 times with his decisions and he calls us SPIES
We logged out and went back to hibernia.
On midgard we found many nice and good people. Loola, Getroasted, same johny.
But many other idiots too
I asked for advice to us to go back to hibernia, that they didn't want us there, that they call us spies, that we ruined the game etcect.
And we didn't have much fun in that realm in all of this.
so all in all we decided to go back.
We have fun on hibernia, now that polemo is back even more.
So stop talking without knowing.
Pilz has been bg for 2 years, he has taught a lot to the hibernia realm and if there are other people who know how to drive bg it is thanks to him that they have learned joining his bg.
He is not god and no one calls him such.
he is simply a person who is more experienced than others in certain aspects of the game.
I have known him for months and besides playing I find him a good person in general.
So if you don't know him, stop talking.
And to judge try to contribute what he did for the server and for the realm.
greetings Smap
If you have fun now, that Polemo is back.. Why the hell don't you attack Alb, and have good fights with his zerg, instead of hammering Mid, still?? We have no BG, no relics.. Nothing... I'ts moronic and counterproductive. Yes Alb is full red, all the time..
You talk about wanting good zerg fights, yet continue to attack the realm that can't muster a BG.. And you don't see the problem.. Lol.
Actually they both come to Midgard, like yesterday evening, doing dunno what, especially Albion has literally NO SENSE to come to Mid when Hib BG is already there, since their relics are all stored in Hib FZ.
Unluckily for them they both got wiped more than once in Bled, guess why? So long for their superior strategy
Thu 3 Sep 2020 2:25 PM
by
swap89
1) polemo came back yesterday ... when he did bg I went to bed because I was sleepygnefner wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 1:52 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 7:41 AMyou talk at random sorry if I tell you.
We joined midgard because the situation had become boring.
I personally didn't enjoy myself in that realm and I had already told pilz that I would be back on hib.
in 4 days in mid we made good bg with results.
Johny is the bg on Sunday afternoon.
He makes mistakes, pilz points it out to him, maybe I admit it wrongly.
Johny exits the game.
The bg picks it up an unknown Unwar.All the people in bg asks this person to pass the lead to pilz.Unwar does not respond.
He makes us die 4-5 times with his decisions and he calls us SPIES
We logged out and went back to hibernia.
On midgard we found many nice and good people. Loola, Getroasted, same johny.
But many other idiots too
I asked for advice to us to go back to hibernia, that they didn't want us there, that they call us spies, that we ruined the game etcect.
And we didn't have much fun in that realm in all of this.
so all in all we decided to go back.
We have fun on hibernia, now that polemo is back even more.
So stop talking without knowing.
Pilz has been bg for 2 years, he has taught a lot to the hibernia realm and if there are other people who know how to drive bg it is thanks to him that they have learned joining his bg.
He is not god and no one calls him such.
he is simply a person who is more experienced than others in certain aspects of the game.
I have known him for months and besides playing I find him a good person in general.
So if you don't know him, stop talking.
And to judge try to contribute what he did for the server and for the realm.
greetings Smap
If you have fun now, that Polemo is back.. Why the hell don't you attack Alb, and have good fights with his zerg, instead of hammering Mid, still?? We have no BG, no relics.. Nothing... I'ts moronic and counterproductive. Yet Alb is full red, all the time..
You talk about wanting good zerg fights, yet continue to attack the realm that can't muster a BG.. And you don't see the problem.. Lol.
2) midgard has a relic now and as far as I'm concerned attacking a realm with 0 relic makes no sense.
3) if you are so interested in your keeps and that they are not taken, just defend them as you have been doing for 2 days.
4) entering a realm that has an active BG is not easy, but you who do BG every death of Pope these things you cannot know.
5) you broke my dick with your crying.
6) I hope you keep doing bg in the evening at least it's fun
7) if you lose all the relics and keeps and call us looser / ruin game / pve doors or whatever the fuck you want, go ahead.
talking to you is like talking to a 3-year-old child who cries because his sandwich is stolen at school.
bye
Thu 3 Sep 2020 3:13 PM
by
kedelin
Its not a class balance problem.. its a problem of the player base... i was on mid yesterday and both hib,alb bgs had over 100 people miss had 50... the total pop for each realm 50s in frontiers was 170a 162m 180h... so please quit crying nerf when it is not even the problem
Thu 3 Sep 2020 3:26 PM
by
Wakefield
Zerging up is not everyone's cup of tea.
Maybe give an incentive to do so to the realm that are stubborn.
I asked about more rps as incentive for healers but got shot down. Half the time Mid bgs have 1 healer per group.
It has come to the point where I just dont play my main anymore as I have to bust my ass off to keep my group alive with nothing back game by working twice as hard.
Inthe real world, you get paid overtime for doing 2 people's job. Least I do
Maybe give an incentive to do so to the realm that are stubborn.
I asked about more rps as incentive for healers but got shot down. Half the time Mid bgs have 1 healer per group.
It has come to the point where I just dont play my main anymore as I have to bust my ass off to keep my group alive with nothing back game by working twice as hard.
Inthe real world, you get paid overtime for doing 2 people's job. Least I do
Thu 3 Sep 2020 4:11 PM
by
Zocci
kedelin wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 3:13 PMIts not a class balance problem.. its a problem of the player base... i was on mid yesterday and both hib,alb bgs had over 100 people miss had 50... the total pop for each realm 50s in frontiers was 170a 162m 180h... so please quit crying nerf when it is not even the problem
Zerg class balance is not the same as 8man class balance.
Maybe Mids like to play to their strengths and thus are not as inclined to zerg?
This point had been made multiple times already and still it just comes down to Mid lacking a 10h/day zerg leader?
Maybe NF favour casters a bit?
Maybe there is little incentive to play 8+h/day as a zerg leader on a realm that's Ill equipped for it?
Balance class by class on a micro scale and hope for macro results or balance on a macro scale and hope population swings and get results that way?
Thinking that there are "easy" solutions to a 20y old game seems a bit far fetched..
One can even argue that daoc never been this balanced.
It all comes down to perspective and very few of us share the same.
Classic daoc was no diamond unicorn..
Thu 3 Sep 2020 4:22 PM
by
Wakefield
NF at launch benefitted ranged classes.
It's why everyone I knew on live rolled casters or scouts.
Even those who played tanks extremely well.
Until they implement destroyable walls and towers, and give heavy tanks(arms/warriors/heros climb wall ability, the caster heavy realm will always win.
Even after the volley nerf, a fg of hiblets can hold off a bg quite easily till reinforcements arrive. It's that damn easy.
And seeing as rangers seem to be the form class, if your not ranged, your fucked
It's why everyone I knew on live rolled casters or scouts.
Even those who played tanks extremely well.
Until they implement destroyable walls and towers, and give heavy tanks(arms/warriors/heros climb wall ability, the caster heavy realm will always win.
Even after the volley nerf, a fg of hiblets can hold off a bg quite easily till reinforcements arrive. It's that damn easy.
And seeing as rangers seem to be the form class, if your not ranged, your fucked
Thu 3 Sep 2020 8:01 PM
by
Kevan89
Did i just heard from the news that a green wave got rekted at the Mid strength relic gate 30 mins ago?
Lmao, thanks for the Rps GREAT LEADER!
Lmao, thanks for the Rps GREAT LEADER!
Thu 3 Sep 2020 9:01 PM
by
Gildar
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 8:01 PMDid i just heard from the news that a green wave got rekted at the Mid strength relic gate 30 mins ago?
Lmao, thanks for the Rps GREAT LEADER!
# Flame mode on #
And you know that Gilboom BG has put the entire Midgard realm to fire all afternoon, taking Bled and Blend also defended by Flump's group ?
Great performance defending ... Mid lose almost half frontier
Thx a lot for RPs too
# Flame mode off #
Seriuosly speaking ... Mid repelled Hib BG this evening ?
Good job guys in Blue .... So we have something to do next days ....
Gilboom BG inc soon again ... and Pilz BG will follow
War goes on ...
Thu 3 Sep 2020 9:09 PM
by
Stoertebecker
And there he is again, the zergling 0815
Thu 3 Sep 2020 9:15 PM
by
Kevan89
@Glidar: take yourself less seriously and make a laugh sometimes, it may help.
We got it your bg can keep green all midgard 24/7, just the Rps you do are coming from wood and stone not from blood and bones.
And I also made the rhyme, Fuck me I'm amazing.
We got it your bg can keep green all midgard 24/7, just the Rps you do are coming from wood and stone not from blood and bones.
And I also made the rhyme, Fuck me I'm amazing.
Thu 3 Sep 2020 9:25 PM
by
Gildar
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 9:15 PM@Glidar: take yourself less seriously and make a laugh sometimes, it may help.
We got it your bg can keep green all midgard 24/7, just the Rps you do are coming from wood and stone not from blood and bones.
And I also made the rhyme, Fuck me I'm amazing.
Today all mid keeps was defended and our rp comes also from blood and bones
Ahahahah well you are amazing ... hope see you on the battlefield....
Edit: @ all: join this thread and tell what you think about pls ... https://forum.playphoenix.online/get-involved/suggestions/25888-relic-guards
Thu 3 Sep 2020 10:01 PM
by
Runental
Actually that was fun today. GJ Mids!
Thu 3 Sep 2020 10:56 PM
by
Ceseuron
gnefner wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 1:52 PMIf you have fun now, that Polemo is back.. Why the hell don't you attack Alb, and have good fights with his zerg, instead of hammering Mid, still?? We have no BG, no relics.. Nothing... I'ts moronic and counterproductive. Yet Alb is full red, all the time..
You talk about wanting good zerg fights, yet continue to attack the realm that can't muster a BG.. And you don't see the problem.. Lol.
If Pilzpower is given the choice between a fight with Polemo and the Alb BG or go to Midgard to chop down doors and take empty keeps, he will always choose empty keeps and PVE doors in Midgard. It's easier RPs to just faceroll through Midgard with no resistance and avoid Polemo and the Alb BG. Pilzpower and his buddies don't look for good fights and a challenge in RVR, and if they're rolled more than once or twice they just ragequit. The only thing they're after is easy RPs from empty keeps in undefended realms and any talk here on the forums suggesting otherwise is just talk.
Removing the RPs gained from taking empty keeps/towers with no defenders, or making the difficulty of taking a keep become exponentially higher based on the number of attackers versus defenders would go a long way in encouraging more meaningful RVR action. Also, removing the nonsense flag game and the GvG stuff would be a step in the right direction and a return to the more meaningful RVR that DAOC is supposed to be about. As it is now, keeps/towers are way too easy to take and when half of the realm is too busy chasing flags and pretending DAOC RVR is WoW battlegrounds, it makes it almost impossible to muster any sort of defense. Devs might as well just replace all of the keeps and towers with flags, drop the relics from the game entirely, and just turn New Frontiers into one giant WoW-like "Capture And Hold" extravaganza.
We'll call it "Dark World of Camelotcraft"!
Thu 3 Sep 2020 11:52 PM
by
Lokkjim
I'm glad Midgard could put up a defense and push the Hibs back, but this picture is so disheartening for me.
Zerg castle battles are all about AoE and it takes away from meaningful keep attacks and keep defense because you have chokepoints where you can just AoE everything. Too much AoE and you can't man the ramparts, too much AoE and you can't interrupt the ramparts. All it is is an AoE battle. Melee classes are left with nothing to do, because if you are winning the AoE battle, no one is on ramparts, and if you are losing the AoE battle, you aren't going to have the chance to climb because no one can heal you and climbers would be targetted by single-target casters, archers, and melee. Not to mention people just throw down catapults inside the keep, and unless it's lightly defended, a climber isn't going into the courtyard to kill someone. Climbers would be better off just contributing catapults to the battle or manning the ram and then manning the next ram, and then you might finally have some action if the defenders didn't run away.
Bring in destructible walls, multi-level walls, whatever would make AoE less of a dominating factor. Just ranting a little bit, thanks for reading.
Fri 4 Sep 2020 12:14 AM
by
Shamissa
Thank you for leading today Runental, that was a lotta of fun with all those catas
Xoxo
Xoxo
Fri 4 Sep 2020 2:11 AM
by
LolaEbola
I’m just here to support my guildie. I think you’re all great, strong, capable, sensual people.. but I’d like some more rvr, guys.
Soldarity and all that nonsense ! <3
Fri 4 Sep 2020 5:29 AM
by
Gildar
Lokkjim wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 11:52 PM
I'm glad Midgard could put up a defense and push the Hibs back, but this picture is so disheartening for me.
Zerg castle battles are all about AoE and it takes away from meaningful keep attacks and keep defense because you have chokepoints where you can just AoE everything. Too much AoE and you can't man the ramparts, too much AoE and you can't interrupt the ramparts. All it is is an AoE battle. Melee classes are left with nothing to do, because if you are winning the AoE battle, no one is on ramparts, and if you are losing the AoE battle, you aren't going to have the chance to climb because no one can heal you and climbers would be targetted by single-target casters, archers, and melee. Not to mention people just throw down catapults inside the keep, and unless it's lightly defended, a climber isn't going into the courtyard to kill someone. Climbers would be better off just contributing catapults to the battle or manning the ram and then manning the next ram, and then you might finally have some action if the defenders didn't run away.
Bring in destructible walls, multi-level walls, whatever would make AoE less of a dominating factor. Just ranting a little bit, thanks for reading.
Destructable walls are only another choke point ....
And with that you go the same as Live, where a siege fight is only like that: place 10 trebs far from keep (defenders can only stay looking) .... open hole in a wall .... charge in ( another aoe battle) .... most aoe Force win ... GG
No more walls fight .... no more ram fight ... no more catas fight and ofc climbers all useless ...
Imho
Fri 4 Sep 2020 6:36 AM
by
Sepplord
the main difference is you can open up MULTIPLE of those chokepoints if the AoE is too hard in the first
the more chokepoints, the less concentrated the AoE-fire can be, and suddenly there are options
the more chokepoints, the less concentrated the AoE-fire can be, and suddenly there are options
Fri 4 Sep 2020 7:18 AM
by
ExcretusMaximus
Lokkjim wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 11:52 PMAll it is is an AoE battle. Melee classes are left with nothing to do
Run the siege, that way the casters are free to do what they're meant to do.
Casters rule sieges, melee run engines.
It's just how it is.
Fri 4 Sep 2020 8:24 AM
by
Cadebrennus
Lokkjim wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 11:52 PM
I'm glad Midgard could put up a defense and push the Hibs back, but this picture is so disheartening for me.
Zerg castle battles are all about AoE and it takes away from meaningful keep attacks and keep defense because you have chokepoints where you can just AoE everything. Too much AoE and you can't man the ramparts, too much AoE and you can't interrupt the ramparts. All it is is an AoE battle. Melee classes are left with nothing to do, because if you are winning the AoE battle, no one is on ramparts, and if you are losing the AoE battle, you aren't going to have the chance to climb because no one can heal you and climbers would be targetted by single-target casters, archers, and melee. Not to mention people just throw down catapults inside the keep, and unless it's lightly defended, a climber isn't going into the courtyard to kill someone. Climbers would be better off just contributing catapults to the battle or manning the ram and then manning the next ram, and then you might finally have some action if the defenders didn't run away.
Bring in destructible walls, multi-level walls, whatever would make AoE less of a dominating factor. Just ranting a little bit, thanks for reading.
Devs need to nerf all AoE to 90 seconds, not just Volley, and to include catapults. Obviously nerfing just Volley didn't fix the problem. PBAoE should be excluded, of course.
Fri 4 Sep 2020 9:14 AM
by
swap89
Ceseuron wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 10:56 PMgnefner wrote: ↑Thu 3 Sep 2020 1:52 PMIf you have fun now, that Polemo is back.. Why the hell don't you attack Alb, and have good fights with his zerg, instead of hammering Mid, still?? We have no BG, no relics.. Nothing... I'ts moronic and counterproductive. Yet Alb is full red, all the time..
You talk about wanting good zerg fights, yet continue to attack the realm that can't muster a BG.. And you don't see the problem.. Lol.
exactly the opposite hahahaahahahaha
Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PM
by
Kevan89
Time is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:20 PM
by
swap89
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PMTime is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
i repeat...i dont attack realm without relic...useless IMO...so stop with this crying...
bye
Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:37 PM
by
Kevan89
Time is 17:30 EU timezone, Fensalir is safe I could not get to the first line due various Relic gates camping performed by Arthur's worshippers but stories arrived till the Great City of Jordheim describing the great heroes of the North saving the last borders.
Weed-lovers moved at once to a less interesting target such as Nottmor, disrupting the mobility of the reinforcements, but they seems interested in just one thing (and it's fucking disgusting :meme: ), the RELIC!
It is heard about a mighty army of the Sons of Albions heading their way to North.
All for the moment. Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
Weed-lovers moved at once to a less interesting target such as Nottmor, disrupting the mobility of the reinforcements, but they seems interested in just one thing (and it's fucking disgusting :meme: ), the RELIC!
It is heard about a mighty army of the Sons of Albions heading their way to North.
All for the moment. Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:52 PM
by
Forlornhope
swap89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:20 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PMTime is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
i repeat...i dont attack realm without relic...useless IMO...so stop with this crying...
bye
So those months when you owned all six? You didn't run your zerg against realms with no relics? You know there's a lot more to this game than zerging keeps, right? Maybe you'll explore these other options of game play when you inevitably own all of them again for weeks at a time.
Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:57 PM
by
Stoertebecker
swap89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:20 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PMTime is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
i repeat...i dont attack realm without relic...useless IMO...so stop with this crying...
bye
Gimme a yell once you`re finish with raiding towers, come to fensalir treehuger
Edit: It seems that the Hibs can`t hack it with some defenders inside
Fri 4 Sep 2020 4:31 PM
by
swap89
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:57 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:20 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PMTime is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
i repeat...i dont attack realm without relic...useless IMO...so stop with this crying...
bye
Gimme a yell once you`re finish with raiding towers, come to fensalir treehuger
Edit: It seems that the Hibs can`t hack it with some defenders inside
poor boy...
Fri 4 Sep 2020 4:34 PM
by
Valaraukar
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:57 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:20 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PMTime is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
i repeat...i dont attack realm without relic...useless IMO...so stop with this crying...
bye
Gimme a yell once you`re finish with raiding towers, come to fensalir treehuger
Edit: It seems that the Hibs can`t hack it with some defenders inside
And there they go to Arvark towers
never waste a bunch of RPs from unguarded towers, you know!
Fri 4 Sep 2020 4:37 PM
by
swap89
Valaraukar wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 4:34 PMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:57 PMswap89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:20 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PMTime is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
i repeat...i dont attack realm without relic...useless IMO...so stop with this crying...
bye
Gimme a yell once you`re finish with raiding towers, come to fensalir treehuger
Edit: It seems that the Hibs can`t hack it with some defenders inside
And there they go to Arvark towers
never waste a bunch of RPs from unguarded towers, you know!
blah blah blah
Fri 4 Sep 2020 5:10 PM
by
Anorganischer
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:37 PMTime is 17:30 EU timezone, Fensalir is safe I could not get to the first line due various Relic gates camping performed by Arthur's worshippers but stories arrived till the Great City of Jordheim describing the great heroes of the North saving the last borders.
Weed-lovers moved at once to a less interesting target such as Nottmor, disrupting the mobility of the reinforcements, but they seems interested in just one thing (and it's fucking disgusting :meme: ), the RELIC!
It is heard about a mighty army of the Sons of Albions heading their way to North.
All for the moment. Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
I realy enjoy this kind of post, please move on !! :-)
Fri 4 Sep 2020 6:11 PM
by
Kevan89
Yesterday in a nutshell
https://imgflip.com/i/4dv27s
https://imgflip.com/i/4dv27s
Fri 4 Sep 2020 6:17 PM
by
Kevan89
Thank you!Anorganischer wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 5:10 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:37 PMTime is 17:30 EU timezone, Fensalir is safe I could not get to the first line due various Relic gates camping performed by Arthur's worshippers but stories arrived till the Great City of Jordheim describing the great heroes of the North saving the last borders.
Weed-lovers moved at once to a less interesting target such as Nottmor, disrupting the mobility of the reinforcements, but they seems interested in just one thing (and it's fucking disgusting :meme: ), the RELIC!
It is heard about a mighty army of the Sons of Albions heading their way to North.
All for the moment. Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
I realy enjoy this kind of post, please move on !! :-)
Blue Reporter will be asap back on the front reporting the latest news (only truth!) from the battlefield.
Fri 4 Sep 2020 8:01 PM
by
Gildar
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:37 PMTime is 17:30 EU timezone, Fensalir is safe I could not get to the first line due various Relic gates camping performed by Arthur's worshippers but stories arrived till the Great City of Jordheim describing the great heroes of the North saving the last borders.
Weed-lovers moved at once to a less interesting target such as Nottmor, disrupting the mobility of the reinforcements, but they seems interested in just one thing (and it's fucking disgusting :meme: ), the RELIC!
It is heard about a mighty army of the Sons of Albions heading their way to North.
All for the moment. Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
Hi Green reporter here ...
i was on the front line today from Fensalir ... a bunch of heroic weed smokers (3 fg) lead by Smap and Gilboom try open Fensalir treasure coffer... 40 blue defenders fight back hiding behind the high walls ... many was killed but also the greenies have casualties ...
Meanwhile Red albion force of 21 fighters take towers in emain and siege Dun Crimthain ... recalling Hib force in fatherland ...
War rage .... FINALLY !!!
Lets go fighters of all realms ... all at war
Fri 4 Sep 2020 8:31 PM
by
Anorganischer
Brilliant
Fri 4 Sep 2020 10:45 PM
by
Shamissa
swap89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:20 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PMTime is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
i repeat...i dont attack realm without relic...useless IMO...so stop with this crying...
bye
Smap, you are sucha full of it I haven’t figured out what kinda drug you in. But really doesn’t matter because drugs or not we kick your little keen tushy all the time
Xoxo
Sat 5 Sep 2020 9:54 AM
by
swap89
Shamissa wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 10:45 PMhaha ok dream dreamswap89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:20 PMKevan89 wrote: ↑Fri 4 Sep 2020 3:07 PMTime is 17:00 EU Timezone, once again BG Hib attack Fensalir for Mid only relic, Albion is untouched since days. FGAs camp relic gates to exclude reinforcments.
More news to come from the front.
Here Blue Reporter, line to you studio.
i repeat...i dont attack realm without relic...useless IMO...so stop with this crying...
bye
Smap, you are sucha full of it I haven’t figured out what kinda drug you in. But really doesn’t matter because drugs or not we kick your little keen tushy all the time
Xoxo
Sun 6 Sep 2020 10:17 PM
by
Stoertebecker
Oh noooooe, sky is falling.
Hib lost 2 relics today at primetime, what happened?
Hib lost 2 relics today at primetime, what happened?
Mon 7 Sep 2020 5:42 AM
by
swap89
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 6 Sep 2020 10:17 PMOh noooooe, sky is falling.
Hib lost 2 relics today at primetime, what happened?
What happened?.
it happens that finally daoc is back on this server.
You have worked together and defending against 2 realms is very difficult.
Of course you can also collide from time to time. Inside the scathaig zerg mid and alb and you have not touched each other.
But no problem is the game.
you can keep coming with your alb / mid pact together ... let's do more pr.
p.s
I FORGOTTEN ... DDB AND AILINNE WAS EMPTY KEEP ... u take it .... PVE DOOR MID lol: P
Mon 7 Sep 2020 5:50 AM
by
Gildar
swap89 wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 5:42 AMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 6 Sep 2020 10:17 PMOh noooooe, sky is falling.
Hib lost 2 relics today at primetime, what happened?
What happened?.
it happens that finally daoc is back on this server.
You have worked together and defending against 2 realms is very difficult.
Of course you can also collide from time to time. Inside the scathaig zerg mid and alb and you have not touched each other.
But no problem is the game.
you can keep coming with your alb / mid pact together ... let's do more pr.
p.s
I FORGOTTEN ... DDB AND AILINNE WAS EMPTY KEEP ... u take it .... PVE DOOR MID lol: P
Mids like pve doors
And yes .... loyal players ... Mid and Alb together dont fighting each other ...
I can understand 2 realms vs 1 .... but playing together ....
But ok np... Hib fight ... dont give up .... more RP for us and relics to take
Mon 7 Sep 2020 6:06 AM
by
Noashakra
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 6 Sep 2020 10:17 PMOh noooooe, sky is falling.
Hib lost 2 relics today at primetime, what happened?
It happened that people whinning were wrong. Hib lost RK while maxistoo was still playing the flags. Alb also finally made the decision to go full force on hib and you teamed up with them... Logic.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 7:25 AM
by
Runental
Best comments from Swap and Gildar here. Makes me really smile
Dont be to salty guys.
Dont be to salty guys.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 7:28 AM
by
swap89
and just for information ...
mid without polemo you are NOTHING.
he opened ailinne for you and left ... he probably didn't trust your ability to open ailinne with some defense.
He comes to attack scathaig to make you take him empty, knowing full well that we would defend scath.
take the relic, i come looking for you and you have him covering your back and killing us near nged.
He hasn't hit you 1 time in all day yesterday.
If you're happy that you need a leader from another realm and his zerg to do something, congratulations.
it's so much fun: D
mid without polemo you are NOTHING.
he opened ailinne for you and left ... he probably didn't trust your ability to open ailinne with some defense.
He comes to attack scathaig to make you take him empty, knowing full well that we would defend scath.
take the relic, i come looking for you and you have him covering your back and killing us near nged.
He hasn't hit you 1 time in all day yesterday.
If you're happy that you need a leader from another realm and his zerg to do something, congratulations.
it's so much fun: D
Mon 7 Sep 2020 7:29 AM
by
Runental
Rage more. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Nuff said.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 7:36 AM
by
Kevan89
Blue Reporter thought weedlanders wanted to be challenged in big fights.
Blue Reporter is surprised to see weedlanders whining about big fights with such salt in the blood.
Blue Reporter finally understand that weedlander liked the easy RP from Wood and Stone.
Blue Reporter sad.
Blue Reporter is surprised to see weedlanders whining about big fights with such salt in the blood.
Blue Reporter finally understand that weedlander liked the easy RP from Wood and Stone.
Blue Reporter sad.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 7:42 AM
by
Runental
Just because you use the term "fun", makes your saltyness not better,- Do not make a fool of yourself.
Maybe your guys forgot how many times you invade Midgard the last few months almost exactly to the same time when Alb sents their Camelot forces to Mid, do you?
And maybe you forgot, that at the first Scathaig inc from Mids,- we reinced Scat Lord with 120 Mids without even knock the port down,- so dont tell me anything we dont have numbers.
Just in one point you are correct,- we had fun,- alot. And your bitternes makes it even better.
Cya on the BF.
Maybe your guys forgot how many times you invade Midgard the last few months almost exactly to the same time when Alb sents their Camelot forces to Mid, do you?
And maybe you forgot, that at the first Scathaig inc from Mids,- we reinced Scat Lord with 120 Mids without even knock the port down,- so dont tell me anything we dont have numbers.
Just in one point you are correct,- we had fun,- alot. And your bitternes makes it even better.
Cya on the BF.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 7:46 AM
by
Bowie
Noashakra wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 6:06 AMStoertebecker wrote: ↑Sun 6 Sep 2020 10:17 PMOh noooooe, sky is falling.
Hib lost 2 relics today at primetime, what happened?
It happened that people whinning were wrong. Hib lost RK while maxistoo was still playing the flags. Alb also finally made the decision to go full force on hib and you teamed up with them... Logic.
O'Rly? I have been told that Maxistoo has a bug and his map stops in EV. He cannot go out from it
Fact is that, Giosakis AkA Polemo was and is the only one moving the realm(s) . Good effort from Runental and few others but the real balance changer is the Malaka.
2 Realms cooperating is really not cool but since you cannot do it "Solo" despite several tries then, what else can you do?
Gildar (aka Gilboom / Giller) is a realm crosser so i wont count his effort to defend a Realm since he goes where he feel to play (not a complain ofc, it's a game and it's free) but when he opens the bg, it's always a nice run.
Pilz & Smap are the only one running for the realm.
Having said so, i go back to my looser realm and wait Harder to come back so we will be 2 bg vs 1vs 1
Mon 7 Sep 2020 7:52 AM
by
swap89
Runental wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 7:42 AMJust because you use the term "fun", makes your saltyness not better,- Do not make a fool of yourself.
Maybe your guys forgot how many times you invade Midgard the last few months almost exactly to the same time when Alb sents their Camelot forces to Mid, do you?
And maybe you forgot, that at the first Scathaig inc from Mids,- we reinced Scat Lord with 120 Mids without even knock the port down,- so dont tell me anything we dont have numbers.
Just in one point you are correct,- we had fun,- alot. And your bitternes makes it even better.
Cya on the BF.
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but which bitter? ...
ahaha ... you're wrong ...
if you reread the posts I wrote that it is normal that there is an alliance between you.
I only expected a fight on certain occasions.
Trust me, I have no bitterness at all.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:12 AM
by
Noashakra
I don't know why two realms teaming up would not be cool.
This is the beauty of the three realm concept. If a realm dominate, the two others can join forces in temporary alliance to overcome the dominant.
It's what killed warhammer online. On realm started to crush the other and they could not do anything about it.
This is the beauty of the three realm concept. If a realm dominate, the two others can join forces in temporary alliance to overcome the dominant.
It's what killed warhammer online. On realm started to crush the other and they could not do anything about it.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:20 AM
by
swap89
no one doubts that it is wrong.
My thinking is slightly different.
you can very well cooperate with the other realm, take advantage of some situations. (attack keep when the other realm keeps the defenses busy).
But I also think that for example yesterday when midgard took the relic of the hib force, it would have been right that albion had incase the middi to steal the relic.
There should always be the fact that you want to do the good of your realm and not just help the other.
Inc ailinne just open the doors and go away to make the mid take it fast I don't think it's nice.
If we kill the mids at the bolg tower and inc keep for retake, come and rush us to not allow us to do so is not nice.
Going into scath together and not even killing each other is not nice.
It is not cooperating, it is exploiting situations to benefit YOUR REALM.
I repeat albion had a good situation to take our relic stealing it from the mids while they were taking it to the temple.
Instead they came to intercept us while we were looking for them.
this is not the cooperation that I like in daoc.
But that's just my thought, if they like to do it they're free to do it.
My thinking is slightly different.
you can very well cooperate with the other realm, take advantage of some situations. (attack keep when the other realm keeps the defenses busy).
But I also think that for example yesterday when midgard took the relic of the hib force, it would have been right that albion had incase the middi to steal the relic.
There should always be the fact that you want to do the good of your realm and not just help the other.
Inc ailinne just open the doors and go away to make the mid take it fast I don't think it's nice.
If we kill the mids at the bolg tower and inc keep for retake, come and rush us to not allow us to do so is not nice.
Going into scath together and not even killing each other is not nice.
It is not cooperating, it is exploiting situations to benefit YOUR REALM.
I repeat albion had a good situation to take our relic stealing it from the mids while they were taking it to the temple.
Instead they came to intercept us while we were looking for them.
this is not the cooperation that I like in daoc.
But that's just my thought, if they like to do it they're free to do it.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:31 AM
by
Runental
The unspoken Scathaig pact was nice.. My BG had strict orders to not attack Albs,- (and most of them agreed btw).
Sadly we lost a strong, but dumb amount of Troll forces under the oil, and as the time goes by, the chaos was real and we end up AoE nuking each other. Nice fight anyway.
Sadly we lost a strong, but dumb amount of Troll forces under the oil, and as the time goes by, the chaos was real and we end up AoE nuking each other. Nice fight anyway.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:40 AM
by
Kevan89
You are basically whining about being out manned, which is the usual situation on your favor while you attack midland.
Should I reply like you always did "stop chasing flags or 8vs8 and join the bg for realm defend"?
LMAO
Also useless to be salty, as it is said "Is not always Sunday", tomorrow you will be again outmanning us and retake the whole Mid once again.
You lost 1 time (with 2 realm against), it changes nothing on the status of the server, be classy and take it as it is.
Don't get baited by the provoking post in here as they are just a natural reaction (yes, of flame) to your previous replies (not you in general but the hib community) in the forum.
/love
Should I reply like you always did "stop chasing flags or 8vs8 and join the bg for realm defend"?
LMAO
Also useless to be salty, as it is said "Is not always Sunday", tomorrow you will be again outmanning us and retake the whole Mid once again.
You lost 1 time (with 2 realm against), it changes nothing on the status of the server, be classy and take it as it is.
Don't get baited by the provoking post in here as they are just a natural reaction (yes, of flame) to your previous replies (not you in general but the hib community) in the forum.
/love
Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:44 AM
by
swap89
Kevan89 wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:40 AMYou are basically whining about being out manned, which is the usual situation on your favor while you attack midland.
Should I reply like you always did "stop chasing flags or 8vs8 and join the bg for realm defend"?
LMAO
you have serious head problems.
what the fuck are you saying?
It wasn't exactly the usual situation. I'm not crying or complaining, I just analyzed things.
You are the one who always has this stupid way of bringing yourself to people.
And for your information the bg has been active all day and we defended ..
but I don't understand what the fuck has to do with the analysis of yesterday evening.
Let yourself be treated by a good one, trust me, reporter of my balls
Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:48 AM
by
Kevan89
Read my edit.swap89 wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:44 AMKevan89 wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:40 AMYou are basically whining about being out manned, which is the usual situation on your favor while you attack midland.
Should I reply like you always did "stop chasing flags or 8vs8 and join the bg for realm defend"?
LMAO
you have serious head problems.
what the fuck are you saying?
It wasn't exactly the usual situation. I'm not crying or complaining, I just analyzed things.
You are the one who always has this stupid way of bringing yourself to people.
And for your information the bg has been active all day and we defended ..
but I don't understand what the fuck has to do with the analysis of yesterday evening.
Let yourself be treated by a good one, trust me, reporter of my balls
Also, you get baited too easy. Once again it was a provocation/joke. Chill.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 9:12 AM
by
skipari
swap89 wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 8:20 AM...
I repeat albion had a good situation to take our relic stealing it from the mids while they were taking it to the temple.
Instead they came to intercept us while we were looking for them.
this is not the cooperation that I like in daoc.
But that's just my thought, if they like to do it they're free to do it.
The problem is that if Albs would've gone for the relic mid was carrying, then they would had an issue getting it back since hibs would be free to do whatever they want. Probably they would be able to get it home or not. Getting it out of hib to whereever is the best for alb (and mid of course) in the current situation.
Thats an standard day in daoc like it always was, if one realm dominates for a while this happens.
It is nice to see in the numbers that everyone and their mothers mobilized to get this whole thing done.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 9:36 AM
by
Sepplord
having a relic in midgard opposed to alb also means that hibernia will shres midgards frontier again instead of albs...so ofcourse they would prefer the mids taking it home
Mon 7 Sep 2020 10:56 AM
by
Tsol
Good Day
Let's start with some facts
I would also like to say humbly, some of you have a memory of a Pineapple. Lets continue ...
Fact 1) Ask Pils how many times he "co op" with another enemy to attack the stronger enemy? Don't be short minded crybabies - It suxx when it happens but it has happened for everybody over 100 times the past 18 months
Fact 2) How many times have we had 3 way fights inside keeps like Scath - over 50 is my personal experience .... But yesterday was on purpose ehhh?? Only because Hibs were the victims? Suck it up buttercups. Mids killed 1/3 of our BG outside the keep and at the GT tower, we killed a bunch of them at the gate house doors. Still was a beautiful fight to witness!
* Stoopid trolls dying from oil - gg malakas!
Fact 3) When Mids were carrying the relic and theoretically go through PoC - which 2 realms had an epic fight outside Hib PoC???? (Because some dont know facts or they forget facts, or ignore facts or pretend they forget or the worst of them all= the conspiracy theories!!). 10 seconds before Albs reach Hib PoC to intercept the Mids (WE WERE COMMING FOR the MIDS, We didnt know you (Hibs) were there you malakas!)- Who did we have a wonderful BG fight with? The Hibs that were waiting also, and btw you saw us first and got the upperhand in the first seconds (Only stating because some malakas saying Albs didnt go after Mids). We tried, we didnt expect they run through the Irish Sea, sorry if thats not good enough for you. Mids almost stole the relic from us btw- 4 fgrps chasing us inside poc killing stragglers and Albs sacrificing themselves to try and stall them - and when we came outside Alb Poc there was another 4+ fgrps waiting for us. Point is we clashed, not enough as the Hibs would want, but we did!
Fact 4) We all had fun! Best game ever
Fact 5) Dont contradict my facts, ill destroy you with more facts
Polemo
Let's start with some facts
I would also like to say humbly, some of you have a memory of a Pineapple. Lets continue ...
Fact 1) Ask Pils how many times he "co op" with another enemy to attack the stronger enemy? Don't be short minded crybabies - It suxx when it happens but it has happened for everybody over 100 times the past 18 months
Fact 2) How many times have we had 3 way fights inside keeps like Scath - over 50 is my personal experience .... But yesterday was on purpose ehhh?? Only because Hibs were the victims? Suck it up buttercups. Mids killed 1/3 of our BG outside the keep and at the GT tower, we killed a bunch of them at the gate house doors. Still was a beautiful fight to witness!
* Stoopid trolls dying from oil - gg malakas!
Fact 3) When Mids were carrying the relic and theoretically go through PoC - which 2 realms had an epic fight outside Hib PoC???? (Because some dont know facts or they forget facts, or ignore facts or pretend they forget or the worst of them all= the conspiracy theories!!). 10 seconds before Albs reach Hib PoC to intercept the Mids (WE WERE COMMING FOR the MIDS, We didnt know you (Hibs) were there you malakas!)- Who did we have a wonderful BG fight with? The Hibs that were waiting also, and btw you saw us first and got the upperhand in the first seconds (Only stating because some malakas saying Albs didnt go after Mids). We tried, we didnt expect they run through the Irish Sea, sorry if thats not good enough for you. Mids almost stole the relic from us btw- 4 fgrps chasing us inside poc killing stragglers and Albs sacrificing themselves to try and stall them - and when we came outside Alb Poc there was another 4+ fgrps waiting for us. Point is we clashed, not enough as the Hibs would want, but we did!
Fact 4) We all had fun! Best game ever
Fact 5) Dont contradict my facts, ill destroy you with more facts
Polemo
Mon 7 Sep 2020 11:11 AM
by
swap89
polemo,
you misunderstood my thoughts
You may very well cooperate with another realm to make what happened yesterday happen.
But not everything.
If you say the poc battle is coincidence I believe you.
But on several occasions it just seemed like you were helping them.
You blocked us if we hollowed out keeps, towers, etc ... allowing the mids to play their game quietly.
I'm not offending you, I'm crying because this happened ... it's part of the game, and it can happen.
I'm just reporting what happened.
On the contrary, I would have done the same but some things I would not be able to do ... I play for my realm, and I play my game ... not "" "" "" I defend "" "" also the actions of the other realm or I allow them to have an easy time attacking a realm.
This is just my thinking and my style, but you are right to do as you did, because it was the only way to get the relics off us.
you misunderstood my thoughts
You may very well cooperate with another realm to make what happened yesterday happen.
But not everything.
If you say the poc battle is coincidence I believe you.
But on several occasions it just seemed like you were helping them.
You blocked us if we hollowed out keeps, towers, etc ... allowing the mids to play their game quietly.
I'm not offending you, I'm crying because this happened ... it's part of the game, and it can happen.
I'm just reporting what happened.
On the contrary, I would have done the same but some things I would not be able to do ... I play for my realm, and I play my game ... not "" "" "" I defend "" "" also the actions of the other realm or I allow them to have an easy time attacking a realm.
This is just my thinking and my style, but you are right to do as you did, because it was the only way to get the relics off us.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 2:31 PM
by
Anorganischer
Tasting the own medicine is bitter bitter....Hibs need to learn that. But my impression is, that they
prefer to cry and find some conspiratorial theory's to decline the honor mids have earned during a hard weekend of endless fights
and a even harder past (and future) time definding their own ground against both foes !
For the north, for Valhalla, FOR MIDGARD !
Go Vikings -Crush dem Hibbis, and stomp those Albs
For the ol' ones among us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnl6F14k-YQ
prefer to cry and find some conspiratorial theory's to decline the honor mids have earned during a hard weekend of endless fights
and a even harder past (and future) time definding their own ground against both foes !
For the north, for Valhalla, FOR MIDGARD !
Go Vikings -Crush dem Hibbis, and stomp those Albs
For the ol' ones among us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnl6F14k-YQ
Mon 7 Sep 2020 4:08 PM
by
Thoralf1
love all the whining after 2 days of midgard leadership. Hell Midgard had to suffer months under hibernia, under its arrogance. Thinking they are best organized and realm loyal jsut because the wipe out all with 6 relics in their backs and masses of casters. I hope so much that hibernia will loose all relics and learn it the hard way how to play. I hope you have to prove your skills someday you zerg-rped, high rr hibs.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 6:05 PM
by
swap89
Thoralf1 wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 4:08 PMlove all the whining after 2 days of midgard leadership. Hell Midgard had to suffer months under hibernia, under its arrogance. Thinking they are best organized and realm loyal jsut because the wipe out all with 6 relics in their backs and masses of casters. I hope so much that hibernia will loose all relics and learn it the hard way how to play. I hope you have to prove your skills someday you zerg-rped, high rr hibs.
baby we have 2 relic still...no crying...u think u are the best because u did good 2 days from a lot of months
lol
Mon 7 Sep 2020 6:09 PM
by
Thoralf1
Just said what i wish will happen.
Mon 7 Sep 2020 10:02 PM
by
Gildar
it's so fun to read what you write that I let you do ... hahaha Polemo also came to defend himself.
do you want the facts?
Saturday night the zerg of the Alb (70+ spam) took Crim and DC and then besieged Nged .... meanwhile the zerg of the Mid (60+ spam) took Bolg and DDB ... and then attacked Ailinne by taking the Relic.
Gilboom's BG Hib (3 fg + 7 rangers) defended Nged ... there was no way out ... Polemo opened the doors of the keep and his BG was blown away ... and returned 3 more times. .. always blown away.
Why BG Hib dont come defend Ailinne and stay Nged ?
First of all because Polemo zerg stand still at Nged doors ... Second because Gilboom says that is easier retake Relic from Mid than from Alb, where Polemo do always a strong and effective BG
Anyway, Polemo never tried to attack the BG Mid with the Relic ... he sacrificed himself to close 3 fg hib at Nged ... and let Mids go back to their snowland untouched
Today he still helped Mid to defend the Nottmore ...
Facts.
however it is nice to finally have so many fights, every now and then you win every now and then you lose ... it's the game: D
It was time for Mid to abandon the little child's flags game : D
@ Bowie: btw I'm not Gilboom and he definitely plays for Hib's realm ... otherwise Saturday he wouldn't have defended until 4.30 am Hib and he wouldn't be open BG.
But you are Alb and cant know that ...
do you want the facts?
Saturday night the zerg of the Alb (70+ spam) took Crim and DC and then besieged Nged .... meanwhile the zerg of the Mid (60+ spam) took Bolg and DDB ... and then attacked Ailinne by taking the Relic.
Gilboom's BG Hib (3 fg + 7 rangers) defended Nged ... there was no way out ... Polemo opened the doors of the keep and his BG was blown away ... and returned 3 more times. .. always blown away.
Why BG Hib dont come defend Ailinne and stay Nged ?
First of all because Polemo zerg stand still at Nged doors ... Second because Gilboom says that is easier retake Relic from Mid than from Alb, where Polemo do always a strong and effective BG
Anyway, Polemo never tried to attack the BG Mid with the Relic ... he sacrificed himself to close 3 fg hib at Nged ... and let Mids go back to their snowland untouched
Today he still helped Mid to defend the Nottmore ...
Facts.
however it is nice to finally have so many fights, every now and then you win every now and then you lose ... it's the game: D
It was time for Mid to abandon the little child's flags game : D
@ Bowie: btw I'm not Gilboom and he definitely plays for Hib's realm ... otherwise Saturday he wouldn't have defended until 4.30 am Hib and he wouldn't be open BG.
But you are Alb and cant know that ...
Mon 7 Sep 2020 10:30 PM
by
Nidd
we will not lose scat.
good luck
good luck
Tue 8 Sep 2020 2:43 AM
by
Freedomcall
I'm glad that old mid BG leaders such as Runental and Grumpybutt has restarted to lead BG in mid.
I'm not saying they are the only leaders in mid!
But after they started to lead BG again, mid became more active.
I'm not saying they are the only leaders in mid!
But after they started to lead BG again, mid became more active.
Tue 8 Sep 2020 5:32 AM
by
Gildar
I was here and what i wrote ARE facts .... you where are ? Probably smoking something strange ...
Anyway useless contribution ... thx, now you can go back sleeping .... bb.
Tue 8 Sep 2020 6:13 AM
by
Stoertebecker
btw, we still play the flag game
Tue 8 Sep 2020 6:55 AM
by
Bowie
Gildar wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 10:02 PM@ Bowie: btw I'm not Gilboom and hedefinitely plays for Hib's realm ... otherwise Saturday he wouldn't have defended until 4.30 am Hib and he wouldn't be open BG.
But you are Alb and cant know that ...
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Definitely? Definitely?
Dear Giller/Gildar/Gilboom ,ofc you are and i don't see why you have to deny it.
Everybody knows , i don't see the problem. Because he played till 4.30 am it means he is a dedicated Hibernian? So why "he" is playing with the Guild Paladini delle Tavola Rotonda In Albion also?
Careful, doing like the ostrich, you will have the head cover but the ass will be out
Tue 8 Sep 2020 11:26 AM
by
Siouxsie
Watching hibs like smap, and gildar and noashakra whine:
Tue 8 Sep 2020 12:11 PM
by
Thoralf1
Hib 1: mimimimimimimimimimi
Hib 2: miiiiiimiiiimiiiiimiiiii:
Hib 3: miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii:
Hib 2: miiiiiimiiiimiiiiimiiiii:
Hib 3: miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii:
Tue 8 Sep 2020 12:12 PM
by
swap89
but whine about what?lol...
u had whine for months talking about class and blah blah blah...
i'm running 150k day defending from alb/mid...so pls come,come and more come...
we win some fight we loose other...but finally is 3 realm fight...the only problem is...polemo can do someting alone too...MIDS without polemo works in our land IS nothing like usual
...think about that instead talk about my unkown whine
bye bye
Tue 8 Sep 2020 1:00 PM
by
Runental
My gosh dude, you have serious ego problems it seems.. Come down from your big horse and chill a bit. Noone cares about your 150k rp when you play 10h/day and noone cares about your opinion you're the strongest and the best. You ain't in any way.
You just have the numbers, nothing more,- i never saw you doing good moves like loops, water incs whatever, like Mids and polemo does. You just drive trough fz with you big fat truck, nothing more.
So yes, Mids don't have (always) the numbers actually to do something alone or can fully compete, aslong they are not the defenders.
Now you blame Mids they can't win a 1v1 zerg or what?! Cool, let's open a 1v1 zerg discussion besides the 74686567 1v1 topics to flame each other.
Can't take you serious dude, really. Take a bit fresh air and chill 😳
You just have the numbers, nothing more,- i never saw you doing good moves like loops, water incs whatever, like Mids and polemo does. You just drive trough fz with you big fat truck, nothing more.
So yes, Mids don't have (always) the numbers actually to do something alone or can fully compete, aslong they are not the defenders.
Now you blame Mids they can't win a 1v1 zerg or what?! Cool, let's open a 1v1 zerg discussion besides the 74686567 1v1 topics to flame each other.
Can't take you serious dude, really. Take a bit fresh air and chill 😳
Tue 8 Sep 2020 1:46 PM
by
Shamissa
Omg i have gone for the weekend, did Smap and Gildar actually lost something is why this whining? Oh i have to run back to the store and get them both a passfire LOL. Smap dear keen, you need to learn how lose at least one time without so much crying, @Gildar your coconut head will never change lol...because you are brainless, so QQ more.
XOXO
XOXO
Tue 8 Sep 2020 1:53 PM
by
Gildar
Bowie wrote: ↑Tue 8 Sep 2020 6:55 AMGildar wrote: ↑Mon 7 Sep 2020 10:02 PM@ Bowie: btw I'm not Gilboom and hedefinitely plays for Hib's realm ... otherwise Saturday he wouldn't have defended until 4.30 am Hib and he wouldn't be open BG.
But you are Alb and cant know that ...
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Definitely? Definitely?
Dear Giller/Gildar/Gilboom ,ofc you are and i don't see why you have to deny it.
Everybody knows , i don't see the problem. Because he played till 4.30 am it means he is a dedicated Hibernian? So why "he" is playing with the Guild Paladini delle Tavola Rotonda In Albion also?
Careful, doing like the ostrich, you will have the head cover but the ass will be out
Bah you can think what you prefere.
Nothing matters to me ... so .... have fun
I asked to Gilbo and i have the answer.
You asked to Giller ?
Anyway good game.
Tue 8 Sep 2020 1:57 PM
by
Uthred
Uthred
Going to close this thread now as it is only getting off topic and into personal insult. Also Midgard seems to be back on the battlefield. So everything is fine and nothing to see here anymore.
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