Staff friar..what's spec? - Phoenix Freeshard

i would try a friar staff but i'm undecided on what spec...

39 staff
47 enh(last self haste)
24 reju(better heal proc)
5 parry

or
44 staff(better WS)
46 enh
8 reju
15 parry

someone tried both specs?

atm i'm 5L4
i'm running with purge3 ,IP3,RAttack2

thanks to those who will spend 2 minutes to answer me

Sat 11 Jul 2020 9:12 AM by Blitze

Firstly, purge 1/2, IP 1/2, st1, Reflex 4 would be a better RA spend in my opinion.

You always solo? If so, then
39staff 45ench, 23parry, 16 rejuv is the best specc till RR7 (then 34 staff becomes viable) solo Or if your desperate for more rejuv go 25rejuv remain in parry.
Remember, parry is very good when solo!

If grouped 8v8 then rejuv (40/43) or smallman a hybrid (34staff, 34rejuv 45enhance) works.

Sat 11 Jul 2020 9:15 AM by Tereos

Blitze wrote: ↑
Sat 11 Jul 2020 9:12 AM
Firstly, purge 1/2, IP 1/2, st1, Reflex 4 would be a better RA spend in my opinion.

You always solo? If so, then
39staff 45ench, 23parry, 16 rejuv is the best specc till RR7 (then 34 staff becomes viable) solo Or if your desperate for more rejuv go 25rejuv remain in parry.
Remember, parry is very good when solo!

If grouped 8v8 then rejuv (40/43) or smallman a hybrid (34staff, 34rejuv 45enhance) works.

Thank you

Mon 3 Aug 2020 7:29 AM by Klasker

I am currently running friar as well,

I have went with 34 staff 45 enhance 16 rejuv rest parry will be a mostly solo/zerging I think.

I went with 45 enhance for the red dex/quick buff.

Mon 3 Aug 2020 7:32 AM by Klasker

Tereos wrote: ↑
Sat 11 Jul 2020 9:15 AM
Blitze wrote: ↑
Sat 11 Jul 2020 9:12 AM
Firstly, purge 1/2, IP 1/2, st1, Reflex 4 would be a better RA spend in my opinion.

You always solo? If so, then
39staff 45ench, 23parry, 16 rejuv is the best specc till RR7 (then 34 staff becomes viable) solo Or if your desperate for more rejuv go 25rejuv remain in parry.
Remember, parry is very good when solo!

If grouped 8v8 then rejuv (40/43) or smallman a hybrid (34staff, 34rejuv 45enhance) works.

Thank you

Is the 39 staff style so good that its worth doing that over parry?

I am mostly solo playing or zerging.

Mon 3 Aug 2020 8:08 AM by Blitze

Nah the 39 style is a bit irrelevant (i used to use it a decent amount when i was 39staff specced though)

For solo, at low RRs i would say that you need specc 39staff so that you get comp weapon to 52. Therefore, when you get to RR7/8 you can drop it to 34staff.

Mon 3 Aug 2020 8:25 AM by Klasker

Blitze wrote: ↑
Mon 3 Aug 2020 8:08 AM
Nah the 39 style is a bit irrelevant (i used to use it a decent amount when i was 39staff specced though)

For solo, at low RRs i would say that you need specc 39staff so that you get comp weapon to 52. Therefore, when you get to RR7/8 you can drop it to 34staff.

Thank you very much for the assistance, i will change to 16/39/45/23 then

Mon 3 Aug 2020 8:28 AM by Klasker

Blitze wrote: ↑
Mon 3 Aug 2020 8:08 AM
Nah the 39 style is a bit irrelevant (i used to use it a decent amount when i was 39staff specced though)

For solo, at low RRs i would say that you need specc 39staff so that you get comp weapon to 52. Therefore, when you get to RR7/8 you can drop it to 34staff.

One more question, for realm abilities as a fresh lvl 50, i am half a lvl off atm.

What should i start with, is it purge 1 then go for reflex 2-3?

Mon 3 Aug 2020 10:06 AM by Blitze

For solo, in order:

Tireless -> LW1 -> Purge1 -> IP1 -> ST1 -> MoParry2 -> Reflex4

After that some nice others to grab (not in any order).

MoParry 3
MoPain 2
MoArcane 2
AugQui 2 (depends on starting Qui)
Serenity 1
IP 2
Purge 2
Reflex 5

Mon 3 Aug 2020 3:51 PM by labra

You don't need lw with endu reduc from enh

Mon 3 Aug 2020 4:11 PM by Blitze

It still helps for 1 point.

With end redux and LW1 you have 3point cost sprint.

And with tireless and your 2 point Self end regen you gain end when sprinting and can sprint and style for longer.

Mon 3 Aug 2020 11:23 PM by imweasel

Two of the viable staff specs, IMHO are:

25 rejuv
45 enh
39 or 40 staff
Rest parry

34 rejuv
45 enh
34 staff

Total solo spec:
16 rejuv
45 enh
39 staff
23 parry

I don't like having only 16 in rejuv. You give up all group ability, but if you are going to exclusively solo, go for it.

Tue 4 Aug 2020 2:47 PM by Blitze

16 rejuv??? is it enough... that very much depends on where you play?

RvR
Solo 16 rejuv is plenty.
Duo 16 rejuv is still plenty.
Smallman i would say 32/34 or 25 rejuv is better (but 16 works ok with a Cleric).
8v8 i guess 32/34 rejuv is best for peel/healer role and 40/43 rejuv for second Cleric role.
Zerg all normal specs work absolutely fine (as long as you have ST).

PvE
Solo 16 rejuv is plenty.
Duo 16 rejuv is still plenty.
Smallman 16 rejuv is still plenty (25/32 are useful for healprocs and if your only healer)
DS 16 rejuv is still plenty with a good cleric (maybe 7 is enough for cures and focus on more DPS).
Raids (Sidi) i healed through Sidi with 16rejuv and it was hard but possible, if you want to raid regularly go higher rejuv.

Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:27 PM by AmunRa

What about
40 rejuv
35 enh
38 staff
8 parry

once rr7/8
40 rejuv
35 enh
34 staff
18 parry
my friar would only really be used for duo with minstrel maybe solo. why is low rejuv for solo and duo good? if you can get snares off and get a little distance to heal higher rejuv would be nice would it not? 35 enh for yellow dex/qui. i was thinking 35 enh since most of the next ranks if you go to 45 are only about a 12 point difference which i feel can be better placed else where especially since you can get a few points in arcane. 40 rejuv for faster ns cure, not a big deal with my duo and pretty pointless solo but you get the second to last heal proc buff which is decent value buff from 16 rejuv. if i would be convinced to go lower rejuv id probably put the points into parry. i think 35 enh is good enough imo if you get a little bit of arcane.( theres 3 buffs arcane wouldnt affect(combat speed inst buff, fatigue buff, abs buff))
32 rejuv
35 enh
34 staff
30 parry
just throwing ideas out there to see what people think, i do not have a high rr friar on this server so would like to see what high rr friars think.

Wed 12 Aug 2020 5:57 PM by imweasel

AmunRa wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Aug 2020 8:27 PM
What about
40 rejuv
35 enh
38 staff
8 parry

once rr7/8
40 rejuv
35 enh
34 staff
18 parry
my friar would only really be used for duo with minstrel maybe solo. why is low rejuv for solo and duo good? if you can get snares off and get a little distance to heal higher rejuv would be nice would it not? 35 enh for yellow dex/qui. i was thinking 35 enh since most of the next ranks if you go to 45 are only about a 12 point difference which i feel can be better placed else where especially since you can get a few points in arcane. 40 rejuv for faster ns cure, not a big deal with my duo and pretty pointless solo but you get the second to last heal proc buff which is decent value buff from 16 rejuv. if i would be convinced to go lower rejuv id probably put the points into parry. i think 35 enh is good enough imo if you get a little bit of arcane.( theres 3 buffs arcane wouldnt affect(combat speed inst buff, fatigue buff, abs buff))
32 rejuv
35 enh
34 staff
30 parry
just throwing ideas out there to see what people think, i do not have a high rr friar on this server so would like to see what high rr friars think.

IMHO, 45enh should be the minimum a friar specs in. If you want to heal and have some melee capabilities, tri-spec is the way to go.

34rejuv 45enh 34staff 0parry. It works for pve as from my experience I'm not missing the parry much.

However, I have gone totally solo, so I dropped some rejuv to bump staff and add some parry. I also took MoParry 2.

Wed 12 Aug 2020 7:29 PM by Blitze

Yea, I don’t know any Friars that run less than 45 enhance... Maybe someone who can get a regular 8v8 group spot with a cleric for dex/qui & AF. Even then missing still the last Absorb.

Sat 29 Aug 2020 5:08 PM by Cadeg

48enhance
34 staff
25 regen
15 parry

Tue 1 Sep 2020 2:57 PM by imweasel

Cadeg wrote: ↑
Sat 29 Aug 2020 5:08 PM
48enhance
34 staff
25 regen
15 parry

You should try to get composite staff spec to 52.

I would also drop parry to 12 and bump enh to 49.

Mon 12 Apr 2021 11:21 AM by averok83

And what about staff speed for solo spec w/o last haste?

Better have a 5.5 like the dartmoor one that proc celerity or should be faster , like 4.5?

Thanks.

Mon 12 Apr 2021 1:38 PM by gromet12

averok83 wrote: ↑
Mon 12 Apr 2021 11:21 AM
And what about staff speed for solo spec w/o last haste?

Better have a 5.5 like the dartmoor one that proc celerity or should be faster , like 4.5?

Thanks.

I ran 3.0 Dot/LT

I used those against DW users

I ran 5.0 heal proc against anything else