Is PF worth it anymore? - Phoenix Freeshard

It's a difficult decision to spec anything into PF outside of a more pure bow spec (40 archery).

Is this a terrible idea to put zero spec in PF?

Sun 2 Aug 2020 7:50 PM by Cadebrennus

With a non-Sniper Ranger I'd stop at 16 or 21 PF, and /use a DA charge and DA reactive procs. High PF (48) is only useful for the spec point investment if a solo Sniper Ranger.

Sun 2 Aug 2020 8:53 PM by imweasel

Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Sun 2 Aug 2020 7:50 PM
With a non-Sniper Ranger I'd stop at 16 or 21 PF, and /use a DA charge and DA reactive procs. High PF (48) is only useful for the spec point investment if a solo Sniper Ranger.

Why even that much PF? Just for the DA and speed?

Mon 3 Aug 2020 5:58 AM by Cadebrennus

imweasel wrote: ↑
Sun 2 Aug 2020 8:53 PM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Sun 2 Aug 2020 7:50 PM
With a non-Sniper Ranger I'd stop at 16 or 21 PF, and /use a DA charge and DA reactive procs. High PF (48) is only useful for the spec point investment if a solo Sniper Ranger.

Why even that much PF? Just for the DA and speed?

For the Dex/Qui buff. The PF DA is the icing on the cake. If you really want to squeeze even more damage out of a Critshot you can also /use a DA charge right when you release your arrow.

Mon 3 Aug 2020 6:49 AM by imweasel

Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Mon 3 Aug 2020 5:58 AM
imweasel wrote: ↑
Sun 2 Aug 2020 8:53 PM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Sun 2 Aug 2020 7:50 PM
With a non-Sniper Ranger I'd stop at 16 or 21 PF, and /use a DA charge and DA reactive procs. High PF (48) is only useful for the spec point investment if a solo Sniper Ranger.

Why even that much PF? Just for the DA and speed?

For the Dex/Qui buff. The PF DA is the icing on the cake. If you really want to squeeze even more damage out of a Critshot you can also /use a DA charge right when you release your arrow.

I'll be using combined forces pots. The dex/qui from that will be more than PF. I'm current looking at this spec at rr3.

Stealth 37
Blades 39
CD 42
Bow 35
PF 9
Zero left over

I am also wondering if 9PF (SPD and DA) is worth it, so I might zero PF and bump CD to 43 with 1 point left over...

Mon 3 Aug 2020 7:36 AM by Noashakra

1 point in dual is peanuts, compared to the utility of the speed.

Mon 3 Aug 2020 1:31 PM by Cadebrennus

imweasel wrote: ↑
Mon 3 Aug 2020 6:49 AM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Mon 3 Aug 2020 5:58 AM
imweasel wrote: ↑
Sun 2 Aug 2020 8:53 PM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Sun 2 Aug 2020 7:50 PM
With a non-Sniper Ranger I'd stop at 16 or 21 PF, and /use a DA charge and DA reactive procs. High PF (48) is only useful for the spec point investment if a solo Sniper Ranger.

Why even that much PF? Just for the DA and speed?

For the Dex/Qui buff. The PF DA is the icing on the cake. If you really want to squeeze even more damage out of a Critshot you can also /use a DA charge right when you release your arrow.

I'll be using combined forces pots. The dex/qui from that will be more than PF. I'm current looking at this spec at rr3.

Stealth 37
Blades 39
CD 42
Bow 35
PF 9
Zero left over

I am also wondering if 9PF (SPD and DA) is worth it, so I might zero PF and bump CD to 43 with 1 point left over...

The bump you get from 42 to 43 CD is marginal. IMO 16 PF is the lowest you should go in order to get a 150% speed boost for 25 seconds which is good enough to either a) catch runners or b) be a runner. The lower PF spec speed boosts aren't high enough or long enough to catch someone or get away from someone in most circumstances.

Mon 3 Aug 2020 10:17 PM by imweasel

Got it. Thanks for the input.

However, the spec points are having a hard time coming out equal.

Any suggestions on a spec without leaving to many spec points on the table?

Tue 4 Aug 2020 6:50 AM by Cadebrennus

imweasel wrote: ↑
Mon 3 Aug 2020 10:17 PM
Got it. Thanks for the input.

However, the spec points are having a hard time coming out equal.

Any suggestions on a spec without leaving to many spec points on the table?

Unfortunately you're in a weird spot at RR3, and would have 33 points with the following spec, which I would recommend to keep a decent speed burst:

37 Stealth
39 Blades
39 CD
35 Archery
16 PF

When you start gaining RR you can drop Stealth and start putting more points into CD. Just remember to use a DA charge when shooting or meleeing and you'll be fine. You can also wear a DA proccing chest piece that's SC'ed with nearly the same stats as the Galla chest piece if you get into melee.