Arrow Flight speed : Instant... why?

Curious as to why this change was implemented? Arrows always had a flight time before hitting target, Not a big fan personally. It Doesn't feel natural what so ever when shooting the bow. Even though it probably is better to get through PBT's. I personally prefer the arrows having a flight time, as I tend to like to shoot a person out of zerg and knock his speed off and restealth real quick hoping he over extends. Or if I mistake a target or a squishier one I always had time after I shot the arrow to turn and haul ass the other direction.

Mon 10 Sep 2018 12:45 AM by Ganaka

Re-stealthing before the arrow hit the target was always a bug.

Mon 10 Sep 2018 2:18 AM by Zansobar

So they made the flight time zero????

That sucks...one of the great feels of the archery system in DAOC was the flight time to target.

Mon 10 Sep 2018 6:01 AM by poisonclover

Ganaka wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Sep 2018 12:45 AM
Re-stealthing before the arrow hit the target was always a bug.

What does that have to do with the fact that it feels like im shooting a laser beam now not a bow?

and you didn't restealth, you just didn't unstealth until the target was hit.. So to fix that minor stealth bug they took away arrow flight time. bleh

Mon 10 Sep 2018 3:14 PM by Ganaka

poisonclover wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Sep 2018 6:01 AM
Ganaka wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Sep 2018 12:45 AM
Re-stealthing before the arrow hit the target was always a bug.

What does that have to do with the fact that it feels like im shooting a laser beam now not a bow?

and you didn't restealth, you just didn't unstealth until the target was hit.. So to fix that minor stealth bug they took away arrow flight time. bleh

You got me there. Great point.

Tue 11 Sep 2018 5:32 PM by poisonclover

Bump, Really curious why this change was made.

Tue 11 Sep 2018 10:25 PM by Chimaera

poisonclover wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Sep 2018 6:01 AM
Ganaka wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Sep 2018 12:45 AM
Re-stealthing before the arrow hit the target was always a bug.

What does that have to do with the fact that it feels like im shooting a laser beam now not a bow?

and you didn't restealth, you just didn't unstealth until the target was hit.. So to fix that minor stealth bug they took away arrow flight time. bleh

This is your guess, and an incorrect one. The damage is not instantaneous, and has a short delay. But it isn't very long, because it doesn't take very long for the arrow to actually reach the target. Whereas the two were not connected before (arrow hits, but damage is later), now they are synchronized.

Secondly, the bug you mentioned is totally unrelated and this change was not directed at that.

Tue 11 Sep 2018 10:42 PM by Armsmancer

as far as the comparison to laser beams

If I get hit with an arrow and it is sticking out of my head, and 2 seconds later my inconnu goes "REEEEEEEEK" well that was a bit slower than it should be wouldn't you say?

Can't appeal to reality with that going on

Wed 12 Sep 2018 1:48 PM by poisonclover

Chimaera wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Sep 2018 10:25 PM
poisonclover wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Sep 2018 6:01 AM
Ganaka wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Sep 2018 12:45 AM
Re-stealthing before the arrow hit the target was always a bug.

What does that have to do with the fact that it feels like im shooting a laser beam now not a bow?

and you didn't restealth, you just didn't unstealth until the target was hit.. So to fix that minor stealth bug they took away arrow flight time. bleh

This is your guess, and an incorrect one. The damage is not instantaneous, and has a short delay. But it isn't very long, because it doesn't take very long for the arrow to actually reach the target. Whereas the two were not connected before (arrow hits, but damage is later), now they are synchronized.

Secondly, the bug you mentioned is totally unrelated and this change was not directed at that.

Ok maybe not instantaneous, but safe to say a blink of an eye? speed of light?

curious why this was done? Why this was even considered? the only reason id see this being done is because it was easier to speed up flight time to bring you out of stealth on damage, which is pretty much basically instantly. regardless of your "short delay". One of the best things in daoc was the Bow mechanics the feel. It just feels unnatural.

Wed 12 Sep 2018 1:52 PM by poisonclover

Armsmancer wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Sep 2018 10:42 PM
as far as the comparison to laser beams

If I get hit with an arrow and it is sticking out of my head, and 2 seconds later my inconnu goes "REEEEEEEEK" well that was a bit slower than it should be wouldn't you say?

Can't appeal to reality with that going on

Ever been Bow hunting? Ever been laser tagging? you tell me what the current bow flight time feels like.

Wed 12 Sep 2018 4:59 PM by Armsmancer

poisonclover wrote: ↑
Wed 12 Sep 2018 1:52 PM
Armsmancer wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Sep 2018 10:42 PM
as far as the comparison to laser beams

If I get hit with an arrow and it is sticking out of my head, and 2 seconds later my inconnu goes "REEEEEEEEK" well that was a bit slower than it should be wouldn't you say?

Can't appeal to reality with that going on

Ever been Bow hunting? Ever been laser tagging? you tell me what the current bow flight time feels like.

No but when I cast magic missiles I know its right on

the point is you can't appeal to reality here, and you just did, but you can't, because magic missiles don't exist and the game balance is not governed by how things would/should be in reality. get real

Thu 13 Sep 2018 2:48 PM by poisonclover

Armsmancer wrote: ↑
Wed 12 Sep 2018 4:59 PM
poisonclover wrote: ↑
Wed 12 Sep 2018 1:52 PM
Armsmancer wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Sep 2018 10:42 PM
as far as the comparison to laser beams

If I get hit with an arrow and it is sticking out of my head, and 2 seconds later my inconnu goes "REEEEEEEEK" well that was a bit slower than it should be wouldn't you say?

Can't appeal to reality with that going on

Ever been Bow hunting? Ever been laser tagging? you tell me what the current bow flight time feels like.

No but when I cast magic missiles I know its right on

the point is you can't appeal to reality here, and you just did, but you can't, because magic missiles don't exist and the game balance is not governed by how things would/should be in reality. get real

Two of the dumbest responses ever. I'm appealing to the archery mechanics that have been in this game since the dawn of its existence.

The only thing missing from your response is:

What time your LARP match starts this weekend. Another person posting absolutely nothing to do with the sheer fact of the post, trying to troll and failing miserably.

I was merely comparing it to how it feels now, I'm sorry you have no attachment to reality and when you cast your magic missiles and they are right on, but this post was about arrow flight speed being basically sped up to non existing. Not how right on your magic missiles are.

Thu 13 Sep 2018 3:24 PM by Isavyr

Arrows are fast. If you want to appeal to reality, just go fire into a character at close range and tell me if it visually looks right (ignore the damage). This is the base that the game is built on (thanks Mythic). In your opinion, should the arrow stay in target for a few seconds and then do damage? Is that more realistic?

What exactly are you advocating? They said the damage matches the arrow speed. If the arrow speed is wrong, that's Mythic's fault.

Also, I think live may have changed their arrow speed to be faster sometime after classic. Do you remember firing in classic at close range? It looked really stupid. (slowly traveled into target). Now it still looks stupid just slightly less stupid at short range.

Thu 13 Sep 2018 5:33 PM by Armsmancer

"Ever been Bow hunting? "

This is appealing to reality.

The magic missiles part was a joke to show that for the same reason it doesn't matter, my magic missiles i cast in real life are as important as the bow hunting I did in regards to how it should work in game...

It was only a "dumb response" because it clearly wooshed over your head and you don't comprehend or understand context. An idiot will think calculus is super dumb after all, and you can't read and understand the purpose of the words on the screen obviously.