Hunter buff pet - Phoenix Freeshard

Could be set as instant buff instead to be a cast?
It is useless while can t be casted when fighting

Fri 8 May 2020 1:13 AM by nkeplinger1

Hunters get an instant pet to interrupt casters/hybrids/archers in rvr.. the buff should remain casted. This would make the pet too strong in rvr imo.

Sat 9 May 2020 11:01 PM by Delegator

Having a 50 RR6 hunter, I agree it would be too powerful. Heck, if you are going to make it instant, then just make the pet more powerful and ditch the spell.

Sun 10 May 2020 2:25 PM by joshisanonymous

I don't have any skin in this fight, but how exactly does one str/con buff make the hunter pet too powerful? I'm honestly curious.

Mon 11 May 2020 4:48 AM by Anelyn77

It wouldn't, it's just old design. Pmuch when you pve you wanna buff str/con on your pet so he can take 1 more hit (like leveling or farming), in RvR only if you camp or keep defense can have the pet out and buff it.

Mon 11 May 2020 6:14 AM by inoeth

i dont think hunter pet needs another buff but i also got to say that the str/con buff is pretty useless and on live it got changed to an insta spell very early (around 1.6x)
later it was even integrated into the insta pet.

i would prefer the integrated version tbh... i dont need another butto on the bar ;D
but still i dont think there is really a need to do changes here

Mon 11 May 2020 6:23 AM by Anelyn77

inoeth wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 6:14 AM
i dont think hunter pet needs another buff but i also got to say that the str/con buff is pretty useless and on live it got changed to an insta spell very early (around 1.6x)
later it was even integrated into the insta pet.

i would prefer the integrated version tbh... i dont need another butto on the bar ;D
but still i dont think there is really a need to do changes here

No offense, but archery community needs to get together and push for some love. Everyone else is getting it (soon melee style changes, procs added, better scalings, only 2 part chains) what did we get? A buff that was 2 days later nerfed and nothing else on the horizon.

If we don't push for changes, we will remain untouched and become bottom tier, worse utility and dmg than caster pets. Let's be real, we're only class that speccing in it's main line of intended dmg - Archery, gets only 2 abilities to put on action bar (3rd being the bow from inventory). Like really?

Why don't we have a pinning shot 99% snare for 10s, a multishot, a true rapid fire - fires 10 arrows at 50% dmg in 2s on your target. Volley and Sniper Shot or w/e is called the most bland and non-impressing active RA's that can't compare to anything else, nobody I know of has ever considered sniper shot, and volley is only taken to leech safely some RP's in keep sieges by hitting random peeps for insignificant dmg.

Mon 11 May 2020 6:36 AM by Sepplord

Calling for ridiculous changes (like that 10arrows in 2seconds rapidfire) won't make anyone take you more seriously.

Have a realistic idea and you might interest people that don't even play archers

Mon 11 May 2020 6:40 AM by inoeth

Anelyn77 wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 6:23 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 6:14 AM
i dont think hunter pet needs another buff but i also got to say that the str/con buff is pretty useless and on live it got changed to an insta spell very early (around 1.6x)
later it was even integrated into the insta pet.

i would prefer the integrated version tbh... i dont need another butto on the bar ;D
but still i dont think there is really a need to do changes here

No offense, but archery community needs to get together and push for some love. Everyone else is getting it (soon melee style changes, procs added, better scalings, only 2 part chains) what did we get? A buff that was 2 days later nerfed and nothing else on the horizon.

If we don't push for changes, we will remain untouched and become bottom tier, worse utility and dmg than caster pets. Let's be real, we're only class that speccing in it's main line of intended dmg - Archery, gets only 2 abilities to put on action bar (3rd being the bow from inventory). Like really?

Why don't we have a pinning shot 99% snare for 10s, a multishot, a true rapid fire - fires 10 arrows at 50% dmg in 2s on your target. Volley and Sniper Shot or w/e is called the most bland and non-impressing active RA's that can't compare to anything else, nobody I know of has ever considered sniper shot, and volley is only taken to leech safely some RP's in keep sieges by hitting random peeps for insignificant dmg.

dude i play hunter from day1 and i think since all stealther have the same detection range and the already buffed pet, hunters are really strong. i dont think hunters need any more love. and i dont care about "the community" because "the community" basicly consists of 95% zerg archers and i do not want to support this in any way. i was really happe i only needed to spec 27 bow for last crit so i could easily spec 50 spear and rip in melee. i still dont get why ppl want to waste all skill points into bow so hardly. now you all got your love and do 400 normal shot lul! still want more love for the pet? lul! hunter is far from bottom tier. in fact ranger/hunter are pretty even and i actually would go a step further and say hunter is even stronger than ranger because! of the pet. guys really learn to play your class.

Mon 11 May 2020 6:52 AM by Anelyn77

Why? Because if you don't spec 45+ bow your bow dmg will be like throwing pebbles.

Why do you spec 50 in spear instead of 27? Because at 27 your spear will be like a pillow brought to a knife fight.

Different playstyles why is that a problem? The spell being instant would make no difference whatsoever in actual game play where hunter pets die in 2 hits from pretty much everything, it's just a QoL improvement so that the spell actually sees play in RvR too.

Anyway, more options is a good thing, instead of only 1 playstyle like it was before - go melee with IP / purge or don't play an archer.

Cheers.

Mon 11 May 2020 8:54 AM by Sepplord

making a casted buff, that rarely gets used because of this, into an instant that will always get used isn't a QOL change...WTF

Mon 11 May 2020 9:36 AM by inoeth

Anelyn77 wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 6:52 AM
Why? Because if you don't spec 45+ bow your bow dmg will be like throwing pebbles.

Why do you spec 50 in spear instead of 27? Because at 27 your spear will be like a pillow brought to a knife fight.

Different playstyles why is that a problem? The spell being instant would make no difference whatsoever in actual game play where hunter pets die in 2 hits from pretty much everything, it's just a QoL improvement so that the spell actually sees play in RvR too.

Anyway, more options is a good thing, instead of only 1 playstyle like it was before - go melee with IP / purge or don't play an archer.

Cheers.

you dont get it do you?
with 27 bow a deal around 250 normal shot and i feel this is very good dmg for the investment
so the good thing is you can go 50 spear for really good melee too
still there are ppl that, god knows why, want to spec 50 bow for no reason
why not be happy with 27 bow and go melee spec?

Mon 11 May 2020 3:40 PM by joshisanonymous

inoeth wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 9:36 AM
Anelyn77 wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 6:52 AM
Why? Because if you don't spec 45+ bow your bow dmg will be like throwing pebbles.

Why do you spec 50 in spear instead of 27? Because at 27 your spear will be like a pillow brought to a knife fight.

Different playstyles why is that a problem? The spell being instant would make no difference whatsoever in actual game play where hunter pets die in 2 hits from pretty much everything, it's just a QoL improvement so that the spell actually sees play in RvR too.

Anyway, more options is a good thing, instead of only 1 playstyle like it was before - go melee with IP / purge or don't play an archer.

Cheers.

you dont get it do you?
with 27 bow a deal around 250 normal shot and i feel this is very good dmg for the investment
so the good thing is you can go 50 spear for really good melee too
still there are ppl that, god knows why, want to spec 50 bow for no reason
why not be happy with 27 bow and go melee spec?

Your argument against buffing bow is so freaking weird. It's basically: "I personally want to spec 50 spear, so I want speccing over 27 bow to be pointless for everyone."

Mon 11 May 2020 4:25 PM by inoeth

joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 3:40 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 9:36 AM
Anelyn77 wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 6:52 AM
Why? Because if you don't spec 45+ bow your bow dmg will be like throwing pebbles.

Why do you spec 50 in spear instead of 27? Because at 27 your spear will be like a pillow brought to a knife fight.

Different playstyles why is that a problem? The spell being instant would make no difference whatsoever in actual game play where hunter pets die in 2 hits from pretty much everything, it's just a QoL improvement so that the spell actually sees play in RvR too.

Anyway, more options is a good thing, instead of only 1 playstyle like it was before - go melee with IP / purge or don't play an archer.

Cheers.

you dont get it do you?
with 27 bow a deal around 250 normal shot and i feel this is very good dmg for the investment
so the good thing is you can go 50 spear for really good melee too
still there are ppl that, god knows why, want to spec 50 bow for no reason
why not be happy with 27 bow and go melee spec?

Your argument against buffing bow is so freaking weird. It's basically: "I personally want to spec 50 spear, so I want speccing over 27 bow to be pointless for everyone."

no its not about 50 spear its about 27 is enough and the dmg is also pretty good

Mon 11 May 2020 11:31 PM by gotwqqd

Hunters are perfectly fine
Many spec options now

Mon 11 May 2020 11:44 PM by joshisanonymous

inoeth wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 4:25 PM
joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 3:40 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 9:36 AM
you dont get it do you?
with 27 bow a deal around 250 normal shot and i feel this is very good dmg for the investment
so the good thing is you can go 50 spear for really good melee too
still there are ppl that, god knows why, want to spec 50 bow for no reason
why not be happy with 27 bow and go melee spec?

Your argument against buffing bow is so freaking weird. It's basically: "I personally want to spec 50 spear, so I want speccing over 27 bow to be pointless for everyone."

no its not about 50 spear its about 27 is enough and the dmg is also pretty good

You're argument against making it meaningful to put poits into bow was literally "go melee spec".

Tue 12 May 2020 6:21 AM by inoeth

joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 11:44 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 4:25 PM
joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Mon 11 May 2020 3:40 PM
Your argument against buffing bow is so freaking weird. It's basically: "I personally want to spec 50 spear, so I want speccing over 27 bow to be pointless for everyone."

no its not about 50 spear its about 27 is enough and the dmg is also pretty good

You're argument against making it meaningful to put poits into bow was literally "go melee spec".

the funny thing is, now all the 50 bow ppl cry about hitting like a wet noodle in melee ;D
from my experiance sooner or later all fights end up in melee and if you cant do dmg there you simply die.
ok you can also play as a wall archer or coastguarding "i run to the guards when its getting too hot" guy, but is that fun?
yes i know there are many ppl that want to cheese other ppl, perfect time for that now ;(
but
do we want that? is that healthy for the server?
if that stays in, i really hope the style overhaul brings something in thats equal like style procs or insane growth rates....

the basic problem was that the scout class was not playable because of new RAs and 15 min or less purge.
also its not possible to bring blocking to the cap which would be needed to survive long enough for a restun.

and the solution is to up all archery dmg to insanity??? really?

Tue 12 May 2020 7:25 AM by chois

Na u can be close to the cap even here but need blok 9 310 dex mini and 70 shield... with that u are at 43 on 45 dual and 53-56 on 60 vs other. It s an heavy investment.

Tue 12 May 2020 8:26 AM by inoeth

chois wrote: ↑
Tue 12 May 2020 7:25 AM
Na u can be close to the cap even here but need blok 9 310 dex mini and 70 shield... with that u are at 43 on 45 dual and 53-56 on 60 vs other. It s an heavy investment.

well on paper you should reach 78% block with these stats
how come that vs non reduction you are under 60%? that can only be because block is cutted to 60% and then WS defence penetration comes in?!
also vs dual wield you should reach 52% block, yet its about 10% less

Tue 12 May 2020 10:09 AM by chois

If im not wron blok cap 60% here vs 1handed and 2 handed, malus 15% vs dual give 45% max

Tue 12 May 2020 2:17 PM by pollojack

It isn't instant because it is ~100 free damage per swing. If you're smart the pet will be behind them and only suffer from the 10% miss rate.

Else, the pet makes fights vs casters very one sided. Even enchanters struggle since you can spawn pet, have it attack and draw agro, use crit, go for rear stun.

The S/C buff with 40 PF brings the dmg to ~120 and you will win most melee fights with 39 spear already.

Tue 12 May 2020 3:11 PM by Varano

Instant pet buff would be nice.
Right now on my hunter when I put my pet on someone and try to kite while my pet hits them they are literally gaining HP from their armor procs heal/lifetap.
Pet is virtually useless for anything besides interrupt and gets 2-3 shotted almost always, also attacks so slow you could probably cast through its attacks.
The pets sprint speed is the only thing it has going for it.
Maybe give pet disease proc chance?

Tue 12 May 2020 4:21 PM by Spiegal

The BC line is very clumsy by itself

- The hunter charm is almost useless (beside pve for arachnide priest)
- The pet buff is very situational.. more for keep defense, where it won't do much.

I actually think they should remove that charm and give it to RM. (but I guess that's a bit of jealousy, since wiz got such a good spec now).

I'm not sure where I stand with that pet buff, but I do have the impression that BC was never polished as a skill line from Mythic.

Tue 12 May 2020 5:52 PM by inoeth

Varano wrote: ↑
Tue 12 May 2020 3:11 PM
Instant pet buff would be nice.
Right now on my hunter when I put my pet on someone and try to kite while my pet hits them they are literally gaining HP from their armor procs heal/lifetap.
Pet is virtually useless for anything besides interrupt and gets 2-3 shotted almost always, also attacks so slow you could probably cast through its attacks.
The pets sprint speed is the only thing it has going for it.
Maybe give pet disease proc chance?

sometimes you actually get really bad luck and the pets procs alot, on live they did remove that the pet could proc.
anyway 100 dmg is pretty good, even minstrel pets only do like 160 dmg and they are red mostly.
hunter pets are far from useless

Thu 14 May 2020 9:34 AM by Noashakra

The pet is so usless it's the first thing I kill when I 1vs1 a hunter because otherwise it outdps me as a ranger (hello, my left hand hits at 70, so yeah it's even worst vs a heal proc...)
So it's a nice add dmg, doubled as a health buffer (each swing for the pet is one swing the hunter doesn't have to take)

Thu 14 May 2020 10:41 AM by inoeth

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 9:34 AM
The pet is so usless it's the first thing I kill when I 1vs1 a hunter because otherwise it outdps me as a ranger (hello, my left hand hits at 70, so yeah it's even worst vs a heal proc...)
So it's a nice add dmg, doubled as a health buffer (each swing for the pet is one swing the hunter doesn't have to take)

you should easily outdmg the pet because it hits not very fast in fact you should hit around twice as fast as the pet

Thu 14 May 2020 12:26 PM by Noashakra

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 10:41 AM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 9:34 AM
The pet is so usless it's the first thing I kill when I 1vs1 a hunter because otherwise it outdps me as a ranger (hello, my left hand hits at 70, so yeah it's even worst vs a heal proc...)
So it's a nice add dmg, doubled as a health buffer (each swing for the pet is one swing the hunter doesn't have to take)

you should easily outdmg the pet because it hits not very fast in fact you should hit around twice as fast as the pet

I say the hunter out dps me on the long run, not the pet alone.

Thu 14 May 2020 12:51 PM by inoeth

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 12:26 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 10:41 AM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 9:34 AM
The pet is so usless it's the first thing I kill when I 1vs1 a hunter because otherwise it outdps me as a ranger (hello, my left hand hits at 70, so yeah it's even worst vs a heal proc...)
So it's a nice add dmg, doubled as a health buffer (each swing for the pet is one swing the hunter doesn't have to take)

you should easily outdmg the pet because it hits not very fast in fact you should hit around twice as fast as the pet

I say the hunter out dps me on the long run, not the pet alone.

phew maybe that was bad RNG but yesterday had a fight vs a rr7 ranger and he totally destroyed me, every swing 250 dmg. we both had dq+asr and the pet hitted as slow as me, but the ranger was still faster obviously.
so the pet hits as fast as a debuffed 2h user but just does 1h dmg

plz buff my class

Thu 14 May 2020 1:53 PM by Noashakra

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 12:51 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 12:26 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 10:41 AM
you should easily outdmg the pet because it hits not very fast in fact you should hit around twice as fast as the pet

I say the hunter out dps me on the long run, not the pet alone.

phew maybe that was bad RNG but yesterday had a fight vs a rr7 ranger and he totally destroyed me, every swing 250 dmg. we both had dq+asr and the pet hitted as slow as me, but the ranger was still faster obviously.
so the pet hits as fast as a debuffed 2h user but just does 1h dmg plz buff my class

I don't know how he can hit you at 250, because with 301 str and 44CD, I was not hitting above 200 with the highest GR styles on evade...

Thu 14 May 2020 1:56 PM by inoeth

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 1:53 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 12:51 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 12:26 PM
I say the hunter out dps me on the long run, not the pet alone.

phew maybe that was bad RNG but yesterday had a fight vs a rr7 ranger and he totally destroyed me, every swing 250 dmg. we both had dq+asr and the pet hitted as slow as me, but the ranger was still faster obviously.
so the pet hits as fast as a debuffed 2h user but just does 1h dmg plz buff my class

I don't know how he can hit you at 250, because with 301 str and 44CD, I was not hitting above 200 with the highest GR styles on evade...

mh 140
oh 60
mh da 30
oh da 20

Thu 14 May 2020 2:08 PM by Noashakra

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 1:56 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 1:53 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 12:51 PM
phew maybe that was bad RNG but yesterday had a fight vs a rr7 ranger and he totally destroyed me, every swing 250 dmg. we both had dq+asr and the pet hitted as slow as me, but the ranger was still faster obviously.
so the pet hits as fast as a debuffed 2h user but just does 1h dmg plz buff my class

I don't know how he can hit you at 250, because with 301 str and 44CD, I was not hitting above 200 with the highest GR styles on evade...

mh 140
oh 60
mh da 30
oh da 20

Make sense if it's both hands but it wasn't clear (even if I doubt the add dmg is 30/20, it would mean his swing speed is super slow and his tempate is gimped if he hits at only 140, I hit at around 17/12 with the yellow and I am around 1.57 swing speed)
You can put the pet on his back, you can't do that with a off hand :p I guarantee you, if I don't kill the pet and the hunter has IP3 or higher, it's game over.

Thu 14 May 2020 2:33 PM by inoeth

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:08 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 1:56 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 1:53 PM
I don't know how he can hit you at 250, because with 301 str and 44CD, I was not hitting above 200 with the highest GR styles on evade...

mh 140
oh 60
mh da 30
oh da 20
Make sense if it's both hands but it wasn't clear (even if I doubt the add dmg is 30/20, it would mean his swing speed is super slow and his tempate is gimped if he hits at only 140, I hit at around 17/12 with the yellow and I am around 1.57 swing speed)
You can put the pet on his back, you can't do that with a off hand :p I guarantee you, if I don't kill the pet and the hunter has IP3 or higher, it's game over.

i loged hib after the fight and asked for spec, he said 44blade 48 pf 22 cd and he also hitted higher with spectrum blade but average was around 140 mh.
maybe also 11.3 da proced not sure about that, but on my ranger i also hit for around 30/20 with the high DAs.
it does not matter so much if you are on swing cap vs hunters because for hunters its not possible to reach swing cap and if debuffed dq and 30% asr you end up with like 2.5s anyway.
also if the hunter misses or gets evaded he loses straight 160 dmg every time where the ranger possibly can still land an off hand the the other way around.
im glad that there are not many melee rangers anymore tbh, they are really giving me troubles, sometimes even more than champions

Thu 14 May 2020 2:40 PM by Noashakra

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:33 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:08 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 1:56 PM
mh 140
oh 60
mh da 30
oh da 20
Make sense if it's both hands but it wasn't clear (even if I doubt the add dmg is 30/20, it would mean his swing speed is super slow and his tempate is gimped if he hits at only 140, I hit at around 17/12 with the yellow and I am around 1.57 swing speed)
You can put the pet on his back, you can't do that with a off hand :p I guarantee you, if I don't kill the pet and the hunter has IP3 or higher, it's game over.

i loged hib after the fight and asked for spec, he said 44blade 48 pf 22 cd and he also hitted higher with spectrum blade but average was around 140 mh.
maybe also 11.3 da proced not sure about that, but on my ranger i also hit for around 30/20 with the high DAs.
it does not matter so much if you are on swing cap vs hunters because for hunters its not possible to reach swing cap and if debuffed dq and 30% asr you end up with like 2.5s anyway.
also if the hunter misses or gets evaded he loses straight 160 dmg every time where the ranger possibly can still land an off hand the the other way around.
im glad that there are not many melee rangers anymore tbh, they are really giving me troubles, sometimes even more than champions

Yeah those are not how probalities work mate :p if you hit more, the ennemy you will evade you at the same rate

if he has 22cd, he will NOT hit you at 250 each round... if he is RR 8, he has around 59.5% chances to hit off hand. So no it's not 250 per round just saying.

Thu 14 May 2020 2:46 PM by inoeth

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:40 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:33 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:08 PM
Make sense if it's both hands but it wasn't clear (even if I doubt the add dmg is 30/20, it would mean his swing speed is super slow and his tempate is gimped if he hits at only 140, I hit at around 17/12 with the yellow and I am around 1.57 swing speed)
You can put the pet on his back, you can't do that with a off hand :p I guarantee you, if I don't kill the pet and the hunter has IP3 or higher, it's game over.

i loged hib after the fight and asked for spec, he said 44blade 48 pf 22 cd and he also hitted higher with spectrum blade but average was around 140 mh.
maybe also 11.3 da proced not sure about that, but on my ranger i also hit for around 30/20 with the high DAs.
it does not matter so much if you are on swing cap vs hunters because for hunters its not possible to reach swing cap and if debuffed dq and 30% asr you end up with like 2.5s anyway.
also if the hunter misses or gets evaded he loses straight 160 dmg every time where the ranger possibly can still land an off hand the the other way around.
im glad that there are not many melee rangers anymore tbh, they are really giving me troubles, sometimes even more than champions

Yeah those are not how probalities work mate :p if you hit more, the ennemy you will evade you at the same rate
if he has 22cd, he will NOT hit you at 250 each round... if he is RR 8, he has around 59.5% chances to hit off hand. So no it's not 250 per round just saying.

yes i know on paper it works like that, thats why i said bad luck with RNG, it was more like 90% oh hits. and i must say that happens alot!

Thu 14 May 2020 2:49 PM by Noashakra

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:46 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:40 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 14 May 2020 2:33 PM
i loged hib after the fight and asked for spec, he said 44blade 48 pf 22 cd and he also hitted higher with spectrum blade but average was around 140 mh.
maybe also 11.3 da proced not sure about that, but on my ranger i also hit for around 30/20 with the high DAs.
it does not matter so much if you are on swing cap vs hunters because for hunters its not possible to reach swing cap and if debuffed dq and 30% asr you end up with like 2.5s anyway.
also if the hunter misses or gets evaded he loses straight 160 dmg every time where the ranger possibly can still land an off hand the the other way around.
im glad that there are not many melee rangers anymore tbh, they are really giving me troubles, sometimes even more than champions

Yeah those are not how probalities work mate :p if you hit more, the ennemy you will evade you at the same rate
if he has 22cd, he will NOT hit you at 250 each round... if he is RR 8, he has around 59.5% chances to hit off hand. So no it's not 250 per round just saying.

yes i know on paper it works like that, thats why i said bad luck with RNG, it was more like 90% oh hits. and i must say that happens alot!

Show your tests in that case, because variance happens that for sure, but if you look on the long run, there are also times where the guy will hit you at the normal 60% of the time and some times where he will hit much less and loses the fight because of this. Your brain is made so that it's easier to remember events where everything goes wrong against you, and forgets the time when it was the other way around.

Sun 17 May 2020 8:31 PM by piero

I suffers too vs rangers with my hunter, ok.. He is 4L, maybe becasuse sword spec, but they are harder to kill for me