inoeth wrote: 48 rc for red cold debuff
24 darkness to boost base dd dmg a bit
bigne88 wrote: Trispec or go home.
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All the other specs are sub par unless you just zerg/keeptake, than anything will work and you just need to faceroll on your keyboard like the other zergers do.
Ele wrote: ↑Sat 9 May 2020 2:48 PMbigne88 wrote: Trispec or go home.
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All the other specs are sub par unless you just zerg/keeptake, than anything will work and you just need to faceroll on your keyboard like the other zergers do.
While I agree with you that trispec is a fine and versatile spec, I wouldn't go that far in judging other specs as only suitable for zergs. Especially dark rms are popular in melee heavy groups, and even some hybrid groups run/ran with dark rm (e.g. Pale).
Ele wrote: ↑Sat 9 May 2020 2:48 PMbigne88 wrote: Trispec or go home.
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All the other specs are sub par unless you just zerg/keeptake, than anything will work and you just need to faceroll on your keyboard like the other zergers do.
While I agree with you that trispec is a fine and versatile spec, I wouldn't go that far in judging other specs as only suitable for zergs. Especially dark rms are popular in melee heavy groups, and even some hybrid groups run/ran with dark rm (e.g. Pale).
I can't find the video right now, but there is an RM pov of Nfct running dark spec. Of course respecs are always possible, especially as pale tries different options often. If I find the video later, I'll add it to the post.bigne88 wrote: Afaik pale are running hibrid as premade, with trispec.
Surely another viable specc.bigne88 wrote: As solo caster on melee party id run 40 supp for red ns for ez push.
Dmg Add is surely a nice bonus in dark spec, but not its main point. Most RM's I ran with - don't play one myself - preferred dark in tank groups mainly due to their role when being the only caster in a group. Tri spec/dark offer roughly the same utility - yellow vs blue ns, both have blue pbt (or yellow vs blue in case of 21/34/36), confusion and some aoe nukes for pet clear. A dark rm can just spec nuke pets down, while the tri spec rm needs to debuff for himself, so he needs to get off an additional cast before he can start to clear a pet. Considering the cookie cutter alb setup with up to 5 blue-red pets, that is a lot of debuffing/base nuking going an, resulting in increased power cost. With spec nukes you don't have to worry about it that much.bigne88 wrote: Why you say heavy dark in melee setup? Damage add?
Ele wrote: ↑Sun 10 May 2020 10:36 AMI can't find the video right now, but there is an RM pov of Nfct running dark spec. Of course respecs are always possible, especially as pale tries different options often. If I find the video later, I'll add it to the post.bigne88 wrote: Afaik pale are running hibrid as premade, with trispec.Surely another viable specc.bigne88 wrote: As solo caster on melee party id run 40 supp for red ns for ez push.Dmg Add is surely a nice bonus in dark spec, but not its main point. Most RM's I ran with - don't play one myself - preferred dark in tank groups mainly due to their role when being the only caster in a group. Tri spec/dark offer roughly the same utility - yellow vs blue ns, both have blue pbt (or yellow vs blue in case of 21/34/36), confusion and some aoe nukes for pet clear. A dark rm can just spec nuke pets down, while the tri spec rm needs to debuff for himself, so he needs to get off an additional cast before he can start to clear a pet. Considering the cookie cutter alb setup with up to 5 blue-red pets, that is a lot of debuffing/base nuking going an, resulting in increased power cost. With spec nukes you don't have to worry about it that much.bigne88 wrote: Why you say heavy dark in melee setup? Damage add?
Again, the difference is not huge between the specs, but dark has its benefits, and taking individual play style and preferrences into consideration, tri, dark or supp spec can surely work.
Edit: typo...
You'd be surprised how often the RM is open for long periods during a fight, especially when you get to put some pressure out. Once you lose momentum, a single RM is f*****d regardless of spec, sure.bigne88 wrote: Also solo Rm on paper is great, in a melee party, but most of good/decent 8men, knows how to rupt you for good, and im afraid it is gonna be hard to even cast anything after the first 6 seconds of inc. Hard life in any spec.
Funny thing, now that you are mentioning it, I realise that most RM's I regularly run with don't even run moc. That being said, I only team up with a relatively small pool of players, and except for our newest freshly 50 RM, this few people are the ones from which I took the latter statement regarding not being under pressure during a lot of fights.bigne88 wrote: Also, the moment you can moc, your yellow/red NS is still decent...nuking is gonna be even worst.
Yup. I'll sum up the mentioned specs below, allowing a better overview:bigne88 wrote: But yea, in the end it is all about personal preferences, not that huge difference.
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