Assassins Desease - Phoenix Freeshard

Just wondering why a 3 min desease on a fight of 30sec - 1 min. It takes forever to heal up after a win. I think 30 sec is enough.

Tytyty
RR6L9 Hunter

Mon 4 May 2020 3:32 PM by Noashakra

3mn is from the caba pet, which is insane.
2mn from sins.

It's way too long, 30sec or 1mn should be the max.

Tue 5 May 2020 7:19 AM by Chihuahua

I agree that it should be reduced to 1 minute.

OR

Give assassins clear disease mechanic - spell with 20sec timer (like portal stone) or whatever.

Tue 5 May 2020 7:34 AM by Razur Ur

Chihuahua wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:19 AM
I agree that it should be reduced to 1 minute.

OR

Give assassins clear disease mechanic - spell with 20sec timer (like portal stone) or whatever.

Give this all! i had yesterday funny duel vs NS. He attacked me two times in row with disease and dot + garotte and run away. I cant reg life
for two minutes and he coming every time with full reg life and this is rly bullshit sorry! disease need rework where only in fight you got no Life reg
but if you not in fight than let Life reg activate. this is strange enough that you got with disease slower speed and half heals! this none healt reg is
greatest bullshit.

Tue 5 May 2020 7:36 AM by Sepplord

sounds like that NS did exactly what it should VS a champ though...

Tue 5 May 2020 7:38 AM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:36 AM
sounds like that NS did exactly what it should VS a champ though...

this is only bullshit game mechanics because of disease abused.

Tue 5 May 2020 7:40 AM by Sepplord

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:38 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:36 AM
sounds like that NS did exactly what it should VS a champ though...

this is only bullshit game mechanics!

As is being debuffed into nothing and then getting stunned for 20+ seconds, but i don't hear you complaining about that much, despite you probably seeing that happen more often than an assassin wittling you down with desease

Tue 5 May 2020 7:50 AM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:40 AM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:38 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:36 AM
sounds like that NS did exactly what it should VS a champ though...

this is only bullshit game mechanics!

As is being debuffed into nothing and then getting stunned for 20+ seconds, but i don't hear you complaining about that much, despite you probably seeing that happen more often than an assassin wittling you down with desease

Haha what tell you for bullshit? plz dont write over 1vs1 if you have not the knowledge! You can purge champion debuffs! you can run out from the static before
this first tick you catch. Only what you need is fast reaction and not more and not lesser. the steahlter have the choice to attack a champ or not! and can every
time escape from fight! but attack again and again and again because of shit disease is a joke! and every well played Steahlter have good chance vs a champion.
but the most steahlter player have not a brain! for handle a champion and not every time have a champion all RA´s rdy! i have only purge3 and running not
with special ra´s only for 1vs1 around. the permantly ra respec is for me to annoying!

Tue 5 May 2020 8:01 AM by hibenosa

Razur Ur wrote:
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:40 AM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:38 AM
this is only bullshit game mechanics!

As is being debuffed into nothing and then getting stunned for 20+ seconds, but i don't hear you complaining about that much, despite you probably seeing that happen more often than an assassin wittling you down with desease

Haha what tell you for bullshit? plz dont write over 1vs1 if you have not the knowledge! You can purge champion debuffs! you can run out from the static before
this first tick you catch. Only what you need is fast reaction and not more and not lesser. the steahlter have the choice to attack a champ or not! and can every
time escape from fight! but attack again and again and again because of shit disease is a joke! and every well played Steahlter have good chance vs a champion.
but the most steahlter player have not a brain! for handle a champion and not every time have a champion all RA´s rdy! i have only purge3 and running not
with special ra´s only for 1vs1 around. the permantly ra respec is for me to annoying!

A little off topic but: For someone reading a lot in this forum; your english is the best german/english mashup I have ever read on the Internet. Please keep on going, its hilarious.

Tue 5 May 2020 8:11 AM by Razur Ur

hibenosa wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:01 AM
A little off topic but: For someone reading a lot in this forum; your english is the best german/english mashup I have ever read on the Internet. Please keep on going, its hilarious.

Sorry but i give my best with english :>

Tue 5 May 2020 8:19 AM by Sepplord

he gets angry when someone hints at his hypocrisy

everything he does is because of skill
everything an enemy does is either lack of skill or bullshit mechanic
adding when he does is fine
adding when someone else does is noob/asshole/zerg

surely is fast with insults and assumptions too

Tue 5 May 2020 8:31 AM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:19 AM
he gets angry when someone hints at his hypocrisy

everything he does is because of skill
everything an enemy does is either lack of skill or bullshit mechanic
adding when he does is fine
adding when someone else does is noob/asshole/zerg

surely is fast with insults and assumptions too

You do not need to deduce one of the above points from yourself :-) and if i running solo then i adding no time another 1vs1!

PS: Ich kann doch nichts dafür wenn du so dumm bist für 1vs1 und im jeden static stehen bleibst anstatt aus der range zu laufen ;-).

Tue 5 May 2020 8:39 AM by Sepplord

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:31 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:19 AM
he gets angry when someone hints at his hypocrisy

everything he does is because of skill
everything an enemy does is either lack of skill or bullshit mechanic
adding when he does is fine
adding when someone else does is noob/asshole/zerg

surely is fast with insults and assumptions too

You do not need to deduce one of the above points from yourself :-) and if i running solo then i adding no time another 1vs1!

Nice try of deflection. And the next assumption, just as i said. Less rage and insults VS anyone daring to disagree with you, would go a long way with your comments.
At least you admit that you do have different policies for when you are solo and grouped. Exactly the hypocrisy i was talking about

Tue 5 May 2020 8:43 AM by inoeth

agree snare+desease+dot is a shitty mechanic to outplay tanks, but i can understand it... some tanks are really nearly unkillable (50 parry spec LOL)

but what bothers me in that regard is this scenario: 1v1 vs assassin -> me winning with 10% life left -> cant move anywhere to reg -> assassins comes back killing you in one hit -> /rofl
happens so often, just like vanish in 1v1

poor butthurt ppl

Tue 5 May 2020 9:16 AM by Razur Ur

inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:43 AM
agree snare+desease+dot is a shitty mechanic to outplay tanks, but i can understand it... some tanks are really nearly unkillable (50 parry spec LOL)

snare+disease+dot is ok but this runaway and try it 1 minute later is for me the greater shitty mechanic and some stealther abused this mechanic because
misshitting with PA. and wow give it rly tanks with 50 parry? ^_^ i dont try it this with my champion.

Tue 5 May 2020 9:29 AM by inoeth

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 9:16 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:43 AM
agree snare+desease+dot is a shitty mechanic to outplay tanks, but i can understand it... some tanks are really nearly unkillable (50 parry spec LOL)

snare+disease+dot is ok but this runaway and try it 1 minute later is for me the greater shitty mechanic and some stealther abused this mechanic because
misshitting with PA. and wow give it rly tanks with 50 parry? ^_^ i dont try it this with my champion.

at least some hero said he was 50 parry spec a few days ago, cant find it anymore... well but there are some tanks with 50% parry

Tue 5 May 2020 9:32 AM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:39 AM
Nice try of deflection. And the next assumption, just as i said. Less rage and insults VS anyone daring to disagree with you, would go a long way with your comments.
At least you admit that you do have different policies for when you are solo and grouped. Exactly the hypocrisy i was talking about

Haha i dont raging i try only to tell my point of few! and i joining often 8er pugs and cant influence with adding another fight! only what i can do is to left
this group after adding! but if i roaming solo then i can decide for myself whether I am somewhere or not! that's a difference. and solo I only add at 2vs1
no matter what realm and help the one who is outnumbered!

Tue 5 May 2020 9:33 AM by Razur Ur

inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 9:29 AM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 9:16 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:43 AM
agree snare+desease+dot is a shitty mechanic to outplay tanks, but i can understand it... some tanks are really nearly unkillable (50 parry spec LOL)

snare+disease+dot is ok but this runaway and try it 1 minute later is for me the greater shitty mechanic and some stealther abused this mechanic because
misshitting with PA. and wow give it rly tanks with 50 parry? ^_^ i dont try it this with my champion.

at least some hero said he was 50 parry spec a few days ago, cant find it anymore... well but there are some tanks with 50% parry

sounds crazy ^^

Tue 5 May 2020 9:54 AM by Sepplord

Razur Ur wrote: Haha i dont raging i try only to tell my point of few!

Why insult others so often then and assume off-topic bullshit instead of just staying with the facts and your personal experiences? Doesn't add up logically

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:31 AM
PS: Ich kann doch nichts dafür wenn du so dumm bist für 1vs1 und im jeden static stehen bleibst anstatt aus der range zu laufen ;-).

PS: Ich kann doch nichts dafür wenn du geseucht drauf wartest dass eine Assel im stealth wieder und wieder angeschlichen kommt nachdem sie gereggt hat.

Um es mal mit deinen Worten (abzüglich der Beleidigungen) auszudrücken

Tue 5 May 2020 12:38 PM by gotwqqd

inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:43 AM
agree snare+desease+dot is a shitty mechanic to outplay tanks, but i can understand it... some tanks are really nearly unkillable (50 parry spec LOL)

but what bothers me in that regard is this scenario: 1v1 vs assassin -> me winning with 10% life left -> cant move anywhere to reg -> assassins comes back killing you in one hit -> /rofl
happens so often, just like vanish in 1v1
poor butthurt ppl

And they should be vs an assassin

Tue 5 May 2020 1:14 PM by Azrael

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:50 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:40 AM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:38 AM
this is only bullshit game mechanics!

As is being debuffed into nothing and then getting stunned for 20+ seconds, but i don't hear you complaining about that much, despite you probably seeing that happen more often than an assassin wittling you down with desease

Haha what tell you for bullshit? plz dont write over 1vs1 if you have not the knowledge! You can purge champion debuffs! you can run out from the static before
this first tick you catch. Only what you need is fast reaction and not more and not lesser. the steahlter have the choice to attack a champ or not! and can every
time escape from fight! but attack again and again and again because of shit disease is a joke! and every well played Steahlter have good chance vs a champion.
but the most steahlter player have not a brain! for handle a champion and not every time have a champion all RA´s rdy! i have only purge3 and running not
with special ra´s only for 1vs1 around. the permantly ra respec is for me to annoying!

You can also just purge disease and run away if a sneak "abuse" it.

Razur Ur wrote: and solo I only add at 2vs1
no matter what realm and help the one who is outnumbered!

I can say from my own experience you also like to add on 2vs2 when solo and 8v8 when in group. It seems you are very unlucky with joining pugs when I see how often that happens/other complain about adding.

Tue 5 May 2020 2:19 PM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 9:54 AM
Razur Ur wrote: Haha i dont raging i try only to tell my point of few!

Why insult others so often then and assume off-topic bullshit instead of just staying with the facts and your personal experiences? Doesn't add up logically

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:31 AM
PS: Ich kann doch nichts dafür wenn du so dumm bist für 1vs1 und im jeden static stehen bleibst anstatt aus der range zu laufen ;-).
PS: Ich kann doch nichts dafür wenn du geseucht drauf wartest dass eine Assel im stealth wieder und wieder angeschlichen kommt nachdem sie gereggt hat.

Um es mal mit deinen Worten (abzüglich der Beleidigungen) auszudrücken

HAHA you so stupid ^_^, the steahlter with active stealth moving faster as me with disease XD. a stealther can easy follow a diseased target! i said you are rly
big noob.

Tue 5 May 2020 2:22 PM by Razur Ur

Azrael wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 1:14 PM
I can say from my own experience you also like to add on 2vs2 when solo and 8v8 when in group. It seems you are very unlucky with joining pugs when I see how often that happens/other complain about adding.

Haha telling the biggest zerger and adder :-D and plz tell me what can i do after purge disease if i get again disease? not very clever! and most time i need purge
for PA ;-).

And btw i adding your 2vs2 and just by the way, I only add your 2vs2 because you may have killed me beforehand with your buddy in the nice 2vs1 ;-).

Tue 5 May 2020 2:41 PM by Riac

If ppl are running out of your st, you're doing it wronf. Slam, count to 7 in your head and drop st on 6, they won't be able to get put in time. Congrats you just reset stun immunity.
One of the dumbest mechanics in the game.

Tue 5 May 2020 2:43 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 2:41 PM
If ppl are running out of your st, you're doing it wronf. Slam, count to 7 in your head and drop st on 6, they won't be able to get put in time. Congrats you just reset stun immunity.
One of the dumbest mechanics in the game.

i know this bro :-D but this dont work if the enemy use purge for my slam ;-) and that happens in 90% of all cases

Tue 5 May 2020 3:02 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 2:43 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 2:41 PM
If ppl are running out of your st, you're doing it wronf. Slam, count to 7 in your head and drop st on 6, they won't be able to get put in time. Congrats you just reset stun immunity.
One of the dumbest mechanics in the game.

i know this bro :-D but this dont work if the enemy use purge for my slam ;-) and that happens in 90% of all cases

if he purges your slam then good, you have a snare. snare them and drop st.
come on, you cant be that bad. now they have no purge for your st slam.
the truely hard champ split there debuffs too. they s/c debuff and slam you. daring you to purge it. then you do and they dump d/q / haste so they still ahve a nice debuff on you for the remainder of the fight.

Tue 5 May 2020 3:05 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:02 PM
if he purges your slam then good, you have a snare. snare them and drop st.
come on, you cant be that bad. now they have no purge for your st slam.

i explain this so often. the most enemys with good reaction running out of range from my static with 60% snare (fronstyle) without catching the first tick from static.
I tried this often vs domination ^_^.

Tue 5 May 2020 3:08 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:05 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:02 PM
if he purges your slam then good, you have a snare. snare them and drop st.
come on, you cant be that bad. now they have no purge for your st slam.

i explain this so often. the most enemys with good reaction running out of range from my static with 60% snare (fronstyle) without catching the first tick from static.
I try it this often vs domination ^_^.

god forbid the r11 is smart enough to gtfo of your ST so you can global them. you still have absurd debuffs.
chances are you are going to catch more ppl with that cheese shit than you miss. its ridic that it resets stun immunity in the first place.
also i find it hard to believe you cna move out of@ 40% move speed. ive tried to strafe out (which is prolly about 40% speed) and cant move out in time. but maybe you can.

Tue 5 May 2020 3:14 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:08 PM
god forbid the r11 is smart enough to gtfo of your ST so you can global them. you still have absurd debuffs.
chances are you are going to catch more ppl with that cheese shit than you miss. its ridic that it resets stun immunity in the first place.

you have right vs most causal player is this static rly nice but without reset immunity is this static only bullshit and i can invest the 5 points for another things.
and without debuffs is a champion not rly competetive btw.

Tue 5 May 2020 3:18 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:14 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:08 PM
god forbid the r11 is smart enough to gtfo of your ST so you can global them. you still have absurd debuffs.
chances are you are going to catch more ppl with that cheese shit than you miss. its ridic that it resets stun immunity in the first place.

you have right vs most causal player is this static rly nice but without reset immunity is this static only bullshit and i can invest the 5 points for another things.
and without debuffs is a champion not rly competetive btw.

if youre dumping all debuff on a target that you are betting is going to purge your slam, thats just a poor choice.
hedge your bets and split the debuffs
slam > s/c debuff him. if he sits it then you still wreck him.
if he purges it then you still have d/q and haste debuff for the rest of the fights.
no reason to d/q and haste debuff a slammed target anyways.

Tue 5 May 2020 3:22 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:18 PM
if youre dumping all debuff on a target that you are betting is going to purge your slam, thats just a poor choice.
hedge your bets and split the debuffs
slam > s/c debuff him. if he sits it then you still wreck him.
if he purges it then you still have d/q and haste debuff for the rest of the fights.
no reason to d/q and haste debuff a slammed target anyways.

how do you get this absurd idea that i would fight like this with an rr11 champion? I only use my debuffs after my slam or stun has been expired / purged ;-).

Tue 5 May 2020 3:25 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:14 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:08 PM
god forbid the r11 is smart enough to gtfo of your ST so you can global them. you still have absurd debuffs.
chances are you are going to catch more ppl with that cheese shit than you miss. its ridic that it resets stun immunity in the first place.

you have right vs most causal player is this static rly nice but without reset immunity is this static only bullshit and i can invest the 5 points for another things.
and without debuffs is a champion not rly competetive btw.

is this not you referring to ppl purging your debuffs?
thats why i made the post showing you how to debuff.
the amount of champ that just insta debuff ppl and then slam is extremely high.

Tue 5 May 2020 3:27 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:25 PM
is this not you referring to ppl purging your debuffs?
thats why i made the post showing you how to debuff.
the amount of champ that just insta debuff ppl and then slam is extremely high.

oh no that was a general statement if a champion had no debuffs in the game :-). i guess you missunderstand me ^_^.

Tue 5 May 2020 3:28 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:27 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:25 PM
is this not you referring to ppl purging your debuffs?
thats why i made the post showing you how to debuff.
the amount of champ that just insta debuff ppl and then slam is extremely high.

oh no that was a general statement if a champion had no debuffs in the game :-). i guess you missunderstand me ^_^.

well ofc, champs with slam and yellow debuffs / st stun reset/ woc / ip is crazy.

Tue 5 May 2020 3:52 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 3:28 PM
oh no that was a general statement if a champion had no debuffs in the game :-). i guess you missunderstand me ^_^.

well ofc, champs with slam and yellow debuffs / st stun reset/ woc / ip is crazy.
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you forget purge :-D and high rr + only ra´s for solo pvp :-). I running with det9 because i lfg most time ^_^ and prefer red debuffs.
yellow debuffs resist to often.

Tue 5 May 2020 4:14 PM by Sepplord

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 2:19 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 9:54 AM
Razur Ur wrote: Haha i dont raging i try only to tell my point of few!

Why insult others so often then and assume off-topic bullshit instead of just staying with the facts and your personal experiences? Doesn't add up logically

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 8:31 AM
PS: Ich kann doch nichts dafür wenn du so dumm bist für 1vs1 und im jeden static stehen bleibst anstatt aus der range zu laufen ;-).
PS: Ich kann doch nichts dafür wenn du geseucht drauf wartest dass eine Assel im stealth wieder und wieder angeschlichen kommt nachdem sie gereggt hat.

Um es mal mit deinen Worten (abzüglich der Beleidigungen) auszudrücken

HAHA you so stupid ^_^, the steahlter with active stealth moving faster as me with disease XD. a stealther can easy follow a diseased target! i said you are rly
big noob.

And again you start with insults...purge apparently doesn't exist. Yet somehow your enemies always use it when you spell out how weak your permastuncombo is

You are hypocritical, and you act like an asshole on the forums. It doesn't even come close to the picture you are trying to paint of your ingame behaviour

Tue 5 May 2020 4:26 PM by Azrael

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 2:22 PM
Azrael wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 1:14 PM
I can say from my own experience you also like to add on 2vs2 when solo and 8v8 when in group. It seems you are very unlucky with joining pugs when I see how often that happens/other complain about adding.

Haha telling the biggest zerger and adder :-D and plz tell me what can i do after purge disease if i get again disease? not very clever! and most time i need purge
for PA ;-).

And btw i adding your 2vs2 and just by the way, I only add your 2vs2 because you may have killed me beforehand with your buddy in the nice 2vs1 ;-).

bruh, you obviously do not know who I am but nice guessing.

Sepplord wrote: It doesn't even come close to the picture you are trying to paint of your ingame behaviour

this

Tue 5 May 2020 5:29 PM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 4:14 PM
And again you start with insults...purge apparently doesn't exist. Yet somehow your enemies always use it when you spell out how weak your permastuncombo is

You are hypocritical, and you act like an asshole on the forums. It doesn't even come close to the picture you are trying to paint of your ingame behaviour

Sorry but you writing only dumb things ;-). i ask me who rage more me or you?

Tue 5 May 2020 5:31 PM by Razur Ur

Azrael wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 4:26 PM
bruh, you obviously do not know who I am but nice guessing.

I know who are you ingame ;-).

Wed 6 May 2020 6:01 AM by Sepplord

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 5:29 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 4:14 PM
And again you start with insults...purge apparently doesn't exist. Yet somehow your enemies always use it when you spell out how weak your permastuncombo is

You are hypocritical, and you act like an asshole on the forums. It doesn't even come close to the picture you are trying to paint of your ingame behaviour

Sorry but you writing only dumb things ;-). i ask me who rage more me or you?

You are kind of correct....trying to reason with you expecting anything good to come out of it really was dumb. I regularly forget that and get more invested in these forums until someone like you comes along and reminds me.

Wed 6 May 2020 12:13 PM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 6 May 2020 6:01 AM
You are kind of correct....trying to reason with you expecting anything good to come out of it really was dumb. I regularly forget that and get more invested in these forums until someone like you comes along and reminds me.

Ok I have now learned from you that Champion OP is and he wins every 1vs1 by using static and it is ok for stealther disease to abuse and run away for slowly kill the OP Champion ;-).

Sat 9 May 2020 12:32 PM by Siouxsie

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:40 AM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:38 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 7:36 AM
sounds like that NS did exactly what it should VS a champ though...

this is only bullshit game mechanics!

As is being debuffed into nothing and then getting stunned for 20+ seconds, but i don't hear you complaining about that much, despite you probably seeing that happen more often than an assassin wittling you down with desease

Yeah there's nothing quite like being nerfed down to a level 40 character with the overpowered red debuffs a champ has.
Oh yeah and they get a DD AND a snare.

Total cheeze class.

Sat 9 May 2020 5:10 PM by Strikejk

The duration of disease is crazy long and should be turned down (or an even better idea, let it be affected by determination.)

About the champion issue; Its still rediculous that hibs have 2 chars with static tempest compared to the other realms.
Just strip them off their static and you solve 2 issues with one patch; less faction imbalance and a welcome nerf to the OP static champion combo in 1v1.

Sat 9 May 2020 5:42 PM by Noashakra

Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 5:10 PM
About the champion issue; Its still rediculous that hibs have 2 chars with static tempest compared to the other realms.
Just strip them off their static and you solve 2 issues with one patch; less faction imbalance and a welcome nerf to the OP static champion combo in 1v1.

Compared to the other realms, we have only one TWF... So please stop with the "hib gets two TS" it's not even the thread for that.

And yeah champion is completly OP, it's one of the best class in duel, with the ministrel and BD.
Frankly, I prefer dying to a ministrel than a champ. I have see a rr3 champ destoy a good rr10 inf...

Sat 9 May 2020 7:03 PM by Strikejk

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 5:42 PM
Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 5:10 PM
About the champion issue; Its still rediculous that hibs have 2 chars with static tempest compared to the other realms.
Just strip them off their static and you solve 2 issues with one patch; less faction imbalance and a welcome nerf to the OP static champion combo in 1v1.

Compared to the other realms, we have only one TWF... So please stop with the "hib gets two TS" it's not even the thread for that.

And yeah champion is completly OP, it's one of the best class in duel, with the ministrel and BD.
Frankly, I prefer dying to a ministrel than a champ. I have see a rr3 champ destoy a good rr10 inf...

So you just discarded yourself from any balance discussion as you clearly have no knowledge about the game you are talking about.
All three realms only have 1 TWF.
Bonedancer, Reaver, Warden*.

Sat 9 May 2020 7:49 PM by Noashakra

Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 7:03 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 5:42 PM
Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 5:10 PM
About the champion issue; Its still rediculous that hibs have 2 chars with static tempest compared to the other realms.
Just strip them off their static and you solve 2 issues with one patch; less faction imbalance and a welcome nerf to the OP static champion combo in 1v1.

Compared to the other realms, we have only one TWF... So please stop with the "hib gets two TS" it's not even the thread for that.

And yeah champion is completly OP, it's one of the best class in duel, with the ministrel and BD.
Frankly, I prefer dying to a ministrel than a champ. I have see a rr3 champ destoy a good rr10 inf...

So you just discarded yourself from any balance discussion as you clearly have no knowledge about the game you are talking about.
All three realms only have 1 TWF.
Bonedancer, Reaver, Valewalker.

true waht about the rest?
Maelstom and ichor?
The discussion is not about that here anyway so.........

Sat 9 May 2020 7:53 PM by Strikejk

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 7:49 PM
Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 7:03 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 5:42 PM
Compared to the other realms, we have only one TWF... So please stop with the "hib gets two TS" it's not even the thread for that.

And yeah champion is completly OP, it's one of the best class in duel, with the ministrel and BD.
Frankly, I prefer dying to a ministrel than a champ. I have see a rr3 champ destoy a good rr10 inf...

So you just discarded yourself from any balance discussion as you clearly have no knowledge about the game you are talking about.
All three realms only have 1 TWF.
Bonedancer, Reaver, Valewalker.

true waht about the rest?
Maelstom and ichor?

You already discarded yourself. Also "changing the goal post" isn't working on me, nor am I your personal wiki. You showcased you have no clue about the game and that is all that matters. Without knowledge you are incapable of providing a meaningful and informed opinion about balance.
Thats like asking a day1 daoc player what he thinks is OP and should be nerfed. "Those purple mobs" probably.

Feel free to educate yourself about daoc, learn the basics, etc.. and come back in like half a year. Then your points may be informed and may have some value.
Bye

Sat 9 May 2020 7:56 PM by Noashakra

Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 7:53 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 7:49 PM
Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 7:03 PM
So you just discarded yourself from any balance discussion as you clearly have no knowledge about the game you are talking about.
All three realms only have 1 TWF.
Bonedancer, Reaver, Valewalker.

true waht about the rest?
Maelstom and ichor?
You already discarded yourself. Also "changing the goal post" isn't working on me, nor am I your personal wiki. You showcased you have no clue about the game and that is all that matters. Without knowledge you are incapable of providing a meaningful and informed opinion about balance.
Thats like asking a day1 daoc player what he thinks is OP and should be nerfed. "Those purple mobs" probably.

Feel free to educate yourself about daoc, learn the basics, etc.. and come back in like half a year. Then your points may be informed and may have some value.
Bye

Man different realm different abilities, we don't need mirror 1 to 1. So we don't need your view. The subject of the post is Asn disease so, I am not changing the subject, you are.

Sat 9 May 2020 8:07 PM by Saroi

Not to break your discussion but it is Warden who has TWF on Hib and not Valewalker. Valewalker has Ichor.

Sat 9 May 2020 8:08 PM by Noashakra

Saroi wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:07 PM
Not to break your discussion but it is Warden who has TWF on Hib and not Valewalker. Valewalker has Ichor.

I did even notice that LOL. That's rich.

Sat 9 May 2020 8:11 PM by Strikejk

Saroi wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:07 PM
Not to break your discussion but it is Warden who has TWF on Hib and not Valewalker. Valewalker has Ichor.

Funny, if you told me I said valewalker I could have sworn by my mother grave that I said warden but apparently I did wrote valewalker. Had a good chuckle lol
..I wonder how that happened

Sat 9 May 2020 8:13 PM by Strikejk

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:08 PM
Saroi wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:07 PM
Not to break your discussion but it is Warden who has TWF on Hib and not Valewalker. Valewalker has Ichor.

I did even notice that LOL. That's rich.

You didnt notice cause you have no clue who has TWF in the game, stop pretending. But I agree it was rich seeing my mistake there. Still puzzled why my brain wrote valewalker

Sat 9 May 2020 8:14 PM by Noashakra

Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:13 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:08 PM
Saroi wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:07 PM
Not to break your discussion but it is Warden who has TWF on Hib and not Valewalker. Valewalker has Ichor.

I did even notice that LOL. That's rich.

You didnt notice cause you have no clue who has TWF in the game, stop pretending. But I agree it was rich seeing my mistake there. Still puzzled why my brain wrote valewalker

ok boomer
You can make mistakes but the other no. Really rich.
Can we go back to disease?

Sat 9 May 2020 8:25 PM by Strikejk

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:14 PM
Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:13 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:08 PM
I did even notice that LOL. That's rich.

You didnt notice cause you have no clue who has TWF in the game, stop pretending. But I agree it was rich seeing my mistake there. Still puzzled why my brain wrote valewalker
ok boomer
You can make mistakes but the other no. Really rich.
Can we go back to disease?

A typo is not the same as plainly not knowing. Or do you want to pretend you accidentally wrote "others realms have more twf" ? You didn't know simple as that. You thought you got more ST because the other realms got more TWF. That is plain wrong and an absolut basic. What else are we supposed to hope you know? Do you know what slam is? What static actually does? Honestly if you don't know an absolute basic like TWF I can't trust you knowing any other vital basic that is important for an informed discussion..

Furthermore you also showcased that you can't handle being wrong as you still have not admitted to it. All you did was shifting the goal post to something else that you probably spend half an hour researching before in the charplaner. How will this end for any other point that we make? Will you also shift the goal post there?

How about an example:
"Yes you are right, I mistakenly thought we got more statics because the other realms have more TWF. That is indeed a valid point to make, but I still don't believe champion is OP and shouldnt get his static ripped off because.."

Sat 9 May 2020 8:28 PM by Noashakra

the goal of this post is to speak about disease so can you please stfu now?
And when you trash talk someone for a mistake, the least you can do is not make one yourself.

Also, I said champions are OP, and that I prefer to face ministrels, wtf is wrong with you?

Sat 9 May 2020 8:31 PM by Strikejk

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:28 PM
the goal of this post is to speak about disease so can you please stfu now?
And when you trash talk someone for a mistake, the least you can do is not make one yourself.

I said you lack knowledge to participate in balance discussions. With or without my typo that remains the same.
I also already gave my opinion on disease, the timer should be lowered or determination should apply to it.

Sat 9 May 2020 8:33 PM by Noashakra

Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:31 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:28 PM
the goal of this post is to speak about disease so can you please stfu now?
And when you trash talk someone for a mistake, the least you can do is not make one yourself.
I said you lack knowledge to participate in balance discussions. With or without my typo that remains the same.
I also already gave my opinion on disease, the timer should be lowered or determination should apply to it.

lol k

Sat 9 May 2020 8:40 PM by Strikejk

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:33 PM
lol k

Yes k.
You are not Donald Trump. Other peoples mistakes don't remove yours. Yes I did a typo, it was a braindead moment, I can handle that.
But that doesn't change it an inch that you have no clue about a game basic like how many TWF's each realm has and which chars have it. I wonder what chars did you thought had TWF on Alb/Mid? Warrior and Armsmann? Paladin and Skald? Would change the class power quite a bit to have access to TWF, just like it does for static, which is a big reason why the champion is so OP. Especially when you use that as justification for having more statics on your realm which is with TWF one of the 2 big RAs to kill zergs, etc.

Anyway, you still cant admit to not knowing that, nor can you admit to changing the goal post, which is the worst tactic in discussions ever.

That being said, back to the point at hand.

Disease is too long. Especially after a 1v1 you are stranded for like 2min without being able to regenerate.

Sat 9 May 2020 8:48 PM by Noashakra

I already said you were right when you corrected me. But continue to ignore it. When you reply in a ggressive way, with your "I knew it, you didn't, you are trash, your mistake disqualify you from talking about this game", the least you can do, is not to make mistakes after. Otherwise it's kind of ironic isn't it?

Sat 9 May 2020 8:59 PM by Strikejk

You know whats ironic, that you tell me in almost every reply to "STFU and talk about disease", yet you continue to talk about it yourself. So I'm gonna quote you here:

"the goal of this post is to speak about disease so can you please stfu now?"

Also boomer, changing the goal post at the same time is hardly admitting.

I also find it pretty rich to ride such a high horse about "you are not allowed to do any mistakes because you criticized me for not knowing game basics".

Sat 9 May 2020 9:27 PM by Noashakra

Strikejk wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 8:59 PM
You know whats ironic, that you tell me in almost every reply to "STFU and talk about disease", yet you continue to talk about it yourself. So I'm gonna quote you here:

"the goal of this post is to speak about disease so can you please stfu now?"

Also boomer, changing the goal post at the same time is hardly admitting.

I also find it pretty rich to ride such a high horse about "you are not allowed to do any mistakes because you criticized me for not knowing game basics".

Ok you did ridculized me by correcting a mistake I did, and now that you gave all this speech about how I was disqualified to speak because I made this mistake, and then you proceeed to make one, disqualifying yourself by your own metric. But continue man

Sat 9 May 2020 10:25 PM by Strikejk

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Sat 9 May 2020 9:27 PM
Ok you did ridculized me by correcting a mistake I did, and now that you gave all this speech about how I was disqualified to speak because I made this mistake, and then you proceeed to make one, disqualifying yourself by your own metric. But continue man

You mean just like you keep riding that massive horse, because I misstyped? Self reflection anywhere? Boi have you been lucky I did that mistake there when I showed how you have no clue about the game, cause its the only straw you keep on rocking like that excuses everything. And even funnier you didn't even realize it cause you didn't even know the twf chars to begin with. So you are rocking this on behalf of some guy who also knows the basics (unlike you) and noticed it.

Congrats, you still don't know game basics.

Also you didn't do "a mistake" like a typo, or typed the wrong class name, you didn't know basic game infos as you proudly proclaimed that the other realms have more TWF.

- I did a mistake/typo when listing, extra for you, the chars across the realms that have TWF, which are equal, instead of just saying "you are wrong its equal".

- You had no clue about game basics. You thought god knows how many TWF Mid & Alb have and god knows on which chars. But you were 100% certain it must be more than Hibs have cause reasons. So a dangerous mix of a lack of knowledge, pure confidence and realm bias.

Someday you will learn the difference.
So much about your "QQ lets talk about disease only" btw..

Wed 10 Jun 2020 7:42 AM by keen

Bump for the suggestion to lower disease timer.

Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:46 AM by zan

This is another thing that does not need changed,nerfed or buffed.