Make EV 8v8 man zone

Started 8 May 2020
by msitruk
in Suggestions
How ?

1) Remove EV from task.

2) No giving rps at all if 2 people of différent group in same realm has hit the dead in EV.

Result :

No more add.
8man can get out and still help realm.
Easy give fun for all witheout Split serv.
Fri 8 May 2020 11:57 AM by Razur Ur
msitruk wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 11:53 AM
2) No giving rps at all if 2 people of différent group in same realm has hit the dead in EV.

Is not possible ;-) but nice idea.
Fri 8 May 2020 11:59 AM by msitruk
Razur Ur wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 11:57 AM
msitruk wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 11:53 AM
2) No giving rps at all if 2 people of différent group in same realm has hit the dead in EV.

Is not possible ;-) but nice idea.


"Not possible" don't existe for coders 👍
Fri 8 May 2020 12:20 PM by inoeth
i can already see that there will be some morons that would do it on purpose just to punish the "elitist" community
Fri 8 May 2020 12:23 PM by Subsonica
i think it's not complicate. just create a "8v8 instance" teleporter. use a random BG map. the system will choose which party goes to the fight, randomly.
Fri 8 May 2020 12:46 PM by Razur Ur
Subsonica wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 12:23 PM
i think it's not complicate. just create a "8v8 instance" teleporter. use a random BG map. the system will choose which party goes to the fight, randomly.

this is possible and already existed in the past as an event.
Fri 8 May 2020 12:48 PM by keen
EV was an empty 8v8 Zone before the tasks got changed. Ppl will always find excuses why it's better to fight in task zones and claim 8v8 spots there instead of going full 8v8 without snacking all the free rps.
Fri 8 May 2020 12:53 PM by Razur Ur
msitruk wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 11:59 AM
"Not possible" don't existe for coders 👍

this is not possible with DAOC because a flag group was never intended. If you had to change the system so that as soon as a group is a different flagged group is protected by third party attacks. Such a system existed in Ever Quest 2 PVE.
Fri 8 May 2020 12:54 PM by Razur Ur
keen wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 12:48 PM
EV was an empty 8v8 Zone before the tasks got changed. Ppl will always find excuses why it's better to fight in task zones and claim 8v8 spots there instead of going full 8v8 without snacking all the free rps.

The problem is the strong difference between different 8vs8 groups. If at the end there are only two groups that dominate strongly, then the weak ones won't come
anymore.
Fri 8 May 2020 2:47 PM by Sepplord
just make the groupcap in the smallman zone 8 and call it the 8vs8 zone....

then all the groups claiming to want fairfights can go there and have addless fights all night long, and everyone else can enjoy RvR in the frontier with less setgrps farming over everything that moves until they meet each other, fight against each other until eventuelly something adds and they have to pull off.

Would be a win win situation and there are enough set-groups that would like it to make the zone populated (compared to the smallmanzone that sadly looks to be completely deserted)
Fri 8 May 2020 3:22 PM by Azuell
Sepplord wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 2:47 PM
just make the groupcap in the smallman zone 8 and call it the 8vs8 zone....

then all the groups claiming to want fairfights can go there and have addless fights all night long, and everyone else can enjoy RvR in the frontier with less setgrps farming over everything that moves until they meet each other, fight against each other until eventuelly something adds and they have to pull off.

Would be a win win situation and there are enough set-groups that would like it to make the zone populated (compared to the smallmanzone that sadly looks to be completely deserted)

8 mans would never use it with reduced rps and no task. They already get plenty of clean fights in the frontiers compared to small mans and even when they do get added it rarely results in anything more than a fight reset with the groups pulling off and killing adders.

It is really disappointing that small man pvp zone is already dead though. I only got to play it for a couple hours on the second day after rp nerf and I thought it was great.

It might have died even without the rp nerf but I don't really understand why the rps needed to be nerfed. Everyone is so concerned with someone else's play style earning too many rps but honestly why does it matter? Zergers and 8 mans always make more rp/hr than me but I'm not crying for their rps to be nerfed.

Personally I was fine with the reduced rps because there were fun fights but obviously most people aren't going to go there with reduced rps and now it's dead. If rps were really getting out of hand that first day I can see tweaking it but I think it went a little overboard. Maybe try to find a middle ground by making a specific task for PvP zone that gives less than normal realm tasks. Adding an additional task will also get more people to stop in to get the task even if only once per 30-60 minutes.
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