PvP Zone: Duelers Zerging - Phoenix Freeshard

Some people have it in their skulls that they want a fair duel, with a /bow.

Sure, fine- I won't add. I'll respect that. But the moment I attack someone (that i sn't fighting) near these people they all zerg me.

This is much worse than teaming up or "adding" fights. This mindset of:

"Oh, they are a class that I can't beat, so it's okay for us all to attack them" .. is complete crap.

I'll respect your fights, Respect mine.

Devs - do you have any input on this nonsense?

Tue 5 May 2020 11:13 PM by Riac

Smudly wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 11:08 PM
Some people have it in their skulls that they want a fair duel, with a /bow.

Sure, fine- I won't add. I'll respect that. But the moment I attack someone (that i sn't fighting) near these people they all zerg me.

This is much worse than teaming up or "adding" fights. This mindset of:
"Oh, they are a class that I can't beat, so it's okay for us all to attack them" .. is complete crap.

I'll respect your fights, Respect mine.

Devs - do you have any input on this nonsense?

rofl, thats not teaming imo. youre interupting their club. theyre fighting each other and not win trading. dont be mad because they dont want to play with you.

Tue 5 May 2020 11:41 PM by Quik

Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 11:13 PM
Smudly wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 11:08 PM
Some people have it in their skulls that they want a fair duel, with a /bow.

Sure, fine- I won't add. I'll respect that. But the moment I attack someone (that i sn't fighting) near these people they all zerg me.

This is much worse than teaming up or "adding" fights. This mindset of:
"Oh, they are a class that I can't beat, so it's okay for us all to attack them" .. is complete crap.

I'll respect your fights, Respect mine.

Devs - do you have any input on this nonsense?
rofl, thats not teaming imo. youre interupting their club. theyre fighting each other and not win trading. dont be mad because they dont want to play with you.

Either way it should be banned still, I just don't see dev's doing anything about it.

This so called solo zone is not solo...

Tue 5 May 2020 11:43 PM by Smudly

I say, to solve the problem of Duelers vs Morded players is to:

Have the Arena be for duelers so they can not whine and complain because they can't choose who engages them in combat.
While the men go PvP like this game was meant to be.

Tue 5 May 2020 11:44 PM by Riac

Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 11:41 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 11:13 PM
Smudly wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 11:08 PM
Some people have it in their skulls that they want a fair duel, with a /bow.

Sure, fine- I won't add. I'll respect that. But the moment I attack someone (that i sn't fighting) near these people they all zerg me.

This is much worse than teaming up or "adding" fights. This mindset of:
"Oh, they are a class that I can't beat, so it's okay for us all to attack them" .. is complete crap.

I'll respect your fights, Respect mine.

Devs - do you have any input on this nonsense?
rofl, thats not teaming imo. youre interupting their club. theyre fighting each other and not win trading. dont be mad because they dont want to play with you.

Either way it should be banned still, I just don't see dev's doing anything about it.

This so called solo zone is not solo...

they were playing the way they wanted and you were trying to interrupt them. there are ppl outside the duel zone you can kill. if they were roaming around as a pack and killing ppl then yea, it would be bannable. hes just mad they wouldnt let him bomb the duel club. im sure theyll let you duel ppl.

Tue 5 May 2020 11:51 PM by spyderz33

Smudly wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 11:08 PM
Some people have it in their skulls that they want a fair duel, with a /bow.

Sure, fine- I won't add. I'll respect that. But the moment I attack someone (that i sn't fighting) near these people they all zerg me.

This is much worse than teaming up or "adding" fights. This mindset of:
"Oh, they are a class that I can't beat, so it's okay for us all to attack them" .. is complete crap.

I'll respect your fights, Respect mine.

Devs - do you have any input on this nonsense?

Smud, you are the last person that should be complaining about people zerging you. You add on everyones 1v1s fights in the frontiers. This is hilarious....

Tue 5 May 2020 11:57 PM by Rhox

Dude you have zerged about 250k off me since release.....

Its like a criminal record it stays with you...………..

If your a piece of shit adder all your life people don't forget it.

Wed 6 May 2020 12:08 AM by Smudly

No such thing as adding in R v R. My one goal is to ensure midgard gets the RPs, not hibs & albs.

Wed 6 May 2020 12:09 AM by Taniquetil

Smudly wrote: ↑
Tue 5 May 2020 11:08 PM
Some people have it in their skulls that they want a fair duel, with a /bow.

Sure, fine- I won't add. I'll respect that. But the moment I attack someone (that i sn't fighting) near these people they all zerg me.

This is much worse than teaming up or "adding" fights. This mindset of:
"Oh, they are a class that I can't beat, so it's okay for us all to attack them" .. is complete crap.

I'll respect your fights, Respect mine.

Devs - do you have any input on this nonsense?

Zerged/jammed his way to RR11, now QQ'ing that people are adding his fights.

But please make sure to respect him soloing in the solo zone. OMEGALUL

Wed 6 May 2020 12:23 AM by Riac

i feel like the joker meme about getting what you fucking deserve is relevant soooo much. i just wish i knew how to post pics in here. it never seems to work for me :/

Wed 6 May 2020 4:30 AM by Ceen

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 6 May 2020 12:23 AM
i feel like the joker meme about getting what you fucking deserve is relevant soooo much. i just wish i knew how to post pics in here. it never seems to work for me :/

Wed 6 May 2020 4:56 AM by CubanXv

While I agree with the essence of this post. Its tough to swallow coming from the SERVER WIDE realm points leader the day the solo zone came out. Yes these duelers need to seriously rethink what this zone is. But to be fair Smud, most of us have seen you fighting 3+ people and come out just fine. It should be expected that you will be ganged on as an rr11 BD. Just as much as I accept the flames and PMS I get playing the zone the way I have. The l33t solos who forget this is a mordred style zone and not a 1v1 tinder fest do need some mollywhoppin. The region chat shows that most of us really are annoyed by it but when it comes time to act, I find its me and a handful of others from Mordred/Camlann are the only ones really trying to actively break that club up.

Wed 6 May 2020 5:04 AM by Astaa

I have generally just been diving in unless someone has clearly just come out of a fight, I don't add (unless I see a 2v1 then I peel one of the adders and despatch them) and I don't vulture. Unless it's a known zerger or someone that has added or zerged me down in the past, being fairly new to the server I don't know many of the well respected soloers, just whether they have trash played me over the last month or so of me playing my hero. I will respect those that have shown me respect in the past, I don't care who you are, if you have added on me or zerged me then you get it back, based on the fact that is how you like to play.

BDs are add on site though, for pretty obvious reasons.

That being said, it is a solo zone, not a 1v1 zone. There is no point complaining about being added on, yes it's shitty but specifically within the rules, what you can't do is actively 'group'

Also, it's been great to speak to 'enemies' and I hope something that does come out of this is a bit more respect for fellow DAOC players that just happen to play a different realm, I think that even if the zone is shut down there will be a closer community (I'm an optimist!) among solo players.

Edit, I have always played solo visi because I find it the most rewarding playstyle, I have the odd night of joining the keep zerg if the soloing is dead and as low RR I mostly just hunt around docks and gate, I see no point doing anything else until I can take on 2 mans and 3 mans, around the RR7 mark. I don't expect others to play my way and I would prefer it if they didn't try and tell me how to play

Wed 6 May 2020 6:36 AM by Sepplord

Imo it is pretty clearly a rule violation
The duelers are grouped up fighting each other, and anyone who doesn't obey to their custom rules is teamed up on.
And according to the comments here, even someone who would obey to their custom rules will get teamed up on, if he has a history of adding

I can understand it, but it is obviously "not the intended function" of the zone, as mentioned in the pop up every time you go there.

And where exactly did the duel club decide to set up? I only played a short time to check out the new zone, but it seemed as if they put themselves right in the middle. Which just reeks of entitlement and only works because they are basically circumventing the "no teaming rule" (this could be wrong though...it looked like that yesterday 21oclock EU time)

On the plusside though, such a self-claimed duel-zone within the solozone does give the map a target and gives a little bit of "thinking about travelroutes to kill people" that a completly "void of goals"-map doesn't have

Wed 6 May 2020 7:52 AM by inoeth

imo BDs and necros hould be banned from the pvp zone since they are not killable for solos giving them an unfair advantage over everyone else. then you can increase rps for kills again because other classes can not farm rp that easily as bd and nec.
maybe more ppl come to that area again

no task rp would be ok for me, the less tasks the better.

and btw its totally hilarious that a BD complains about being added lol

Wed 6 May 2020 9:35 AM by

Uthred

gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Mon 4 May 2020 11:03 AM
The examples are for the solo zone, the same applies to groups in the group zone too.

Examples of what is allowed:
You see a 1v1 going on and can either add or just move along or even wait and then vulture.
You see a 1v1 and someone adds, you're free to also add, only kill the adder or just watch it unfold.
You have a 1v1 and are added, you can either both go on the one who adds or not. If you went on him you can continue the original 1v1 or pull out and go your separate ways.

Examples of what is not allowed:
Moving around together and acting as team mates, this is not limited to literally being sticked but also includes always following someone in helpful add distance.

Wed 6 May 2020 9:43 AM by thirian24

Maybe what should really come of all of this, is the staff should look into how fucking OP BD and Necro are instead of nerfing rp intake for everybody.

Fix Necro and BD, they are wildly broken.

Wed 6 May 2020 1:37 PM by Razur Ur

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Wed 6 May 2020 9:43 AM
Maybe what should really come of all of this, is the staff should look into how fucking OP BD and Necro are instead of nerfing rp intake for everybody.

Fix Necro and BD, they are wildly broken.

BD need only nerf with insta LT from 4sec to 8 sec and would all be fine.

Wed 6 May 2020 3:35 PM by Hector

Not staff but Here’s my input: you are a high rank bone dancer who always zergs down everything in the frontier leading up rank 11. When I see you in the pvp zone I’m going to jam the absolute s**t out of you until you stop showing up with a rank 11 PD9 BD expecting any sort of respect . The nerve you have bro...

Wed 6 May 2020 4:01 PM by Riac

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Wed 6 May 2020 9:43 AM
Maybe what should really come of all of this, is the staff should look into how fucking OP BD and Necro are instead of nerfing rp intake for everybody.

Fix Necro and BD, they are wildly broken.

i think its hilarious how the pve and pvp for a necro is the exact same. stand there and face tank the person/mob w/ pet and cast life tap (THAT IS UNINTERRUPTIBLE AND NOT EFFECTED BY DISEASE) its quite laughable. is there a class that takes less skill? i cant really think of one. i understand not being able to hit the necro in shade but just allowing them to lifetap while not having to do shit else is an outright joke and has been a joke for a very long time. at least make disease do something. or do the whole thing where they just become the pet or w/e (idk how that works, i didnt play then)
BD insta lifetap is dumb as well.
why does disease not effect lifetaps?

Wed 6 May 2020 7:33 PM by darkstar00

inoeth wrote: ↑
Wed 6 May 2020 7:52 AM
imo BDs and necros hould be banned from the pvp zone since they are not killable for solos giving them an unfair advantage over everyone else. then you can increase rps for kills again because other classes can not farm rp that easily as bd and nec.
maybe more ppl come to that area again

no task rp would be ok for me, the less tasks the better.

and btw its totally hilarious that a BD complains about being added lol

The only necro I fought was one that was down to half health from a previous fight and he still almost killed me.

The game isn't meant to be played solo outside of stealthers really so if you're talking about removing classes then it shows that fundamental flaw of having a solo zone.

I will admit it was fun the first day but its starting to slow down like I knew it would... granted the RP nerf didn't help the cause.

Good fun experiment but people will largely go back to the regular rvr zones.

Wed 6 May 2020 7:45 PM by Astaa

The game is absolutely made to be played solo, in the same way it is made for 8v8 and zergs and everywhere in-between, sandbox pvp. The problem is balancing it for all playstyles, which is impossible.

In reality if you were to nerf BDs and necros into the ground for solo it would make them pointless in other aspects of pvp and if you were to boost other classes for solo it would make them god-like in zergs/8v8.

It is what it is, the majority of fights I have found have been against non-OP classes, if you come across an OP (in solo) class you just have to shrug it off, release and go back, still plenty of action.

Wed 6 May 2020 7:51 PM by bluefalcon420

The fact there is this much contention over the pvp zone shows that the Phoenix population is not mature enough to handle that play style.
Give a man an inch of rope and watch him hang himself with it .

Thu 7 May 2020 1:44 AM by Azrael

yes, ban necros and bds from pvp zone. Also champs, mercs, minstrels and friars. thx

Thu 7 May 2020 6:20 AM by inoeth

Azrael wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:44 AM
yes, ban necros and bds from pvp zone. Also champs, mercs, minstrels and friars. thx

might really depend on opponent, me as a hunter can kill champs and minstrels.... friars only if they dont have reflex attack

Thu 7 May 2020 6:21 AM by inoeth

Astaa wrote: ↑
Wed 6 May 2020 7:45 PM
The game is absolutely made to be played solo, in the same way it is made for 8v8 and zergs and everywhere in-between, sandbox pvp. The problem is balancing it for all playstyles, which is impossible.

In reality if you were to nerf BDs and necros into the ground for solo it would make them pointless in other aspects of pvp and if you were to boost other classes for solo it would make them god-like in zergs/8v8.

It is what it is, the majority of fights I have found have been against non-OP classes, if you come across an OP (in solo) class you just have to shrug it off, release and go back, still plenty of action.

yeah i can see that. thats why i said band them from this zone because they are too strong for 1v1, no need to nerf them. well maybe necros need a nerf ;D

Thu 7 May 2020 6:36 AM by Noashakra

Nerfin the drain to 8s is a balance for 8vs8 and solo. if you don't want to take away the ability of the bd to interupt in group, have the value of the drain by two and keep it 4s. Easy fix.

Thu 7 May 2020 6:51 AM by Sepplord

i am all for banning too strong classes, but only if you follow through and ban the new "king of the hill"-classes too...
until there is only one class left that is allowed to go in

i wonder which class it would be at the end

Thu 7 May 2020 7:19 AM by DarkDavion

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 6:20 AM
Azrael wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:44 AM
yes, ban necros and bds from pvp zone. Also champs, mercs, minstrels and friars. thx

might really depend on opponent, me as a hunter can kill champs and minstrels.... friars only if they dont have reflex attack

I can beat necros with my champ when I have my RA up, he got advantage but isn't a imba class, necro has counters, for example are just food for my ench. As I said 13233 times the only 1 that has not counters is minstrel, even without pet can kite u into death, shit class.

Thu 7 May 2020 7:24 AM by inoeth

DarkDavion wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:19 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 6:20 AM
Azrael wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:44 AM
yes, ban necros and bds from pvp zone. Also champs, mercs, minstrels and friars. thx

might really depend on opponent, me as a hunter can kill champs and minstrels.... friars only if they dont have reflex attack
I can beat necros with my champ when I have my RA up, he got advantage but isn't a imba class, necro has counters, for example are just food for my ench. As I said 13233 times the only 1 that has not counters is minstrel, even without pet can kite u into death, shit class.

minstrel counter=hunter
sounds weird but all a minnie really can do vs hunters is run away

also weird hunters can kill champs but not necro

Thu 7 May 2020 7:34 AM by DarkDavion

Lul I rly want to see you vs a minstrel. What do u have more than me as a champ? Don't misunderstand me, I have kicked a lot of minstrels but they were rly brain dead, a normal IQ minstrel can kick all

Thu 7 May 2020 7:38 AM by Razur Ur

I ask me, why can minstrel wearing a chain armor? this is to op and not the pet i guess. give minstrel only studded armor and all is fine.
I thought that minstrel was ealier time a steahlther with speed and not a hybrid tank or give bard scale armor! Bard is only speed and heal class
without scale/chain armor and have only evade2!

Thu 7 May 2020 7:43 AM by Razur Ur

DarkDavion wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:34 AM
Lul I rly want to see you vs a minstrel. What do u have more than me as a champ? Don't misunderstand me, I have kicked a lot of minstrels but they were rly brain dead, a normal IQ minstrel can kick all

yeah a minstrel need only distance to the enemy and the pet+dd killing the enemy. minstrel have for escape sos+insta mezz/stun.

Thu 7 May 2020 8:15 AM by Noashakra

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:43 AM
DarkDavion wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:34 AM
Lul I rly want to see you vs a minstrel. What do u have more than me as a champ? Don't misunderstand me, I have kicked a lot of minstrels but they were rly brain dead, a normal IQ minstrel can kick all

yeah a minstrel need only distance to the enemy and the pet+dd killing the enemy. minstrel have for escape sos+insta mezz/stun.

he doesn't need a pet to kite you to death

Thu 7 May 2020 8:16 AM by Nunki

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:24 AM
DarkDavion wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:19 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 6:20 AM
might really depend on opponent, me as a hunter can kill champs and minstrels.... friars only if they dont have reflex attack
I can beat necros with my champ when I have my RA up, he got advantage but isn't a imba class, necro has counters, for example are just food for my ench. As I said 13233 times the only 1 that has not counters is minstrel, even without pet can kite u into death, shit class.

minstrel counter=hunter
sounds weird but all a minnie really can do vs hunters is run away

also weird hunters can kill champs but not necro

There is no real counter to minstrels (if played right).
There are just some classes he can't kill and where he might have to run away.

Thu 7 May 2020 8:26 AM by Razur Ur

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 8:15 AM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:43 AM
DarkDavion wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:34 AM
Lul I rly want to see you vs a minstrel. What do u have more than me as a champ? Don't misunderstand me, I have kicked a lot of minstrels but they were rly brain dead, a normal IQ minstrel can kick all

yeah a minstrel need only distance to the enemy and the pet+dd killing the enemy. minstrel have for escape sos+insta mezz/stun.

he doesn't need a pet to kite you to death

without pet can a skald this too only with insta dd ;-)

Thu 7 May 2020 9:32 AM by DarkDavion

A skald can't do shit bcs only has mezz and snare 30 sec cooldown, minstrel much more utility

Thu 7 May 2020 10:49 AM by Killaloth

It's about looking for a fair fight.

I am a chanter, I don't touch tanks because it's lame, unless they attack first. PvP zone is not made for rps farming but to have fun and let others have fun w/o ruining their game. That's how many people see it.

I only inc BDs, skalds, champions and casters because they can all kill me, it's challenging and it's fun.

If you go around with a BD to farm tanks in the duel zone what do you expect if not being zerged down

Now can you please all go to my "50+ pets rupting MoC" thread and express your opinion?

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13702 < for your convenience

I want to see 30 RAs point forcing the mini to use SoS, IP or simply I want to die anyway while still moving my little lurikeen hands because this change will not give anyone a win button vs any ministrel, just a bit more fairness. Thank you!

Thu 7 May 2020 12:03 PM by inoeth

Nunki wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 8:16 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:24 AM
DarkDavion wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:19 AM
I can beat necros with my champ when I have my RA up, he got advantage but isn't a imba class, necro has counters, for example are just food for my ench. As I said 13233 times the only 1 that has not counters is minstrel, even without pet can kite u into death, shit class.

minstrel counter=hunter
sounds weird but all a minnie really can do vs hunters is run away

also weird hunters can kill champs but not necro
There is no real counter to minstrels (if played right).
There are just some classes he can't kill and where he might have to run away.

my experience so far is, if they going to lose the sos into guards and go afk for 15 min

and if sos is down they die. also the rr11 ones^^

Thu 7 May 2020 12:05 PM by inoeth

Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 10:49 AM
It's about looking for a fair fight.

I am a chanter, I don't touch tanks because it's lame, unless they attack first. PvP zone is not made for rps farming but to have fun and let others have fun w/o ruining their game. That's how many people see it.

I only inc BDs, skalds, champions and casters because they can all kill me, it's challenging and it's fun.

If you go around with a BD to farm tanks in the duel zone what do you expect if not being zerged down

Now can you please all go to my "50+ pets rupting MoC" thread and express your opinion?

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13702 < for your convenience

I want to see 30 RAs point forcing the mini to use SoS, IP or simply I want to die anyway while still moving my little lurikeen hands because this change will not give anyone a win button vs any ministrel, just a bit more fairness. Thank you!

nice how you pretend to be a nice fighter... remeber the days when you added everything and kited into guards? was that no lame?

Thu 7 May 2020 1:34 PM by Killaloth

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 12:05 PM
Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 10:49 AM
It's about looking for a fair fight.

I am a chanter, I don't touch tanks because it's lame, unless they attack first. PvP zone is not made for rps farming but to have fun and let others have fun w/o ruining their game. That's how many people see it.

I only inc BDs, skalds, champions and casters because they can all kill me, it's challenging and it's fun.

If you go around with a BD to farm tanks in the duel zone what do you expect if not being zerged down

Now can you please all go to my "50+ pets rupting MoC" thread and express your opinion?

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13702 < for your convenience

I want to see 30 RAs point forcing the mini to use SoS, IP or simply I want to die anyway while still moving my little lurikeen hands because this change will not give anyone a win button vs any ministrel, just a bit more fairness. Thank you!

nice how you pretend to be a nice fighter... remeber the days when you added everything and kited into guards? was that no lame?

Here comes the attention seeker again. I was surprised you resisted the temptation for so long. Now you can receive the usual public lesson, welcome back!

Kiting to guards? Here's what a solo player looks like:

https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/solokills?time-frame=all-time&filter=caster
https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/solokills?time-frame=all-time&filter=melee

Which classes are above the OP solo BM and chanters? All done with no MoC and group spec uhuh.

You don't even make the top 50 stealthers with your hunter

Also, it seems one of your guildmates has 50% more solo kills than you with less rank. Math says he is a true soloer and you are a true keyboard warrior, boom! Watch your stats before finger-pointing bro.

I'm far, far away to only 1vs1 with my chanter but I don't point fingers as you do.

See what happens when you just talk? Facts and numbers come under your nose and you get caught red-handed.

PS I don't add your fights in the PvP zone because I respect your opponent, not because I respect you. Receiving your QQ via PM while you boil inside is very entertaining and I miss it tho.

Always a pleasure to bring you back to reality my friend, bb! <3

Thu 7 May 2020 1:39 PM by Loki

Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:34 PM
Always a pleasure to bring you back to reality my friend, bb! <3

Brah, you claimed you soloed 60% of your time with BM ... also your chanter wouldn't do diddly squat if you weren't completely submerged, which you know and exploit the hell out of. Im not defending anyone here, but you are the last to preach on soloing

Thu 7 May 2020 2:02 PM by Blitze

Was a fun RvR event a few days ago with lots of varied action (adds, ganks, 1v1v1s etc) and some duals.

Now it’s very stale high RR duelling with only the best 1v1 classes in a massive zone. I don’t enjoy this gamestyle for more than 10mins every month or so. For me I think overall the zone has lost its use.

If the high RRs want to keep it open then I’m fine with that. But I think a biweekly one day event would suit this type of zone much better with the zone closed in the meantime!

Take home message:
The zone should be a limited time thing with full RPs for one day!

Thu 7 May 2020 2:09 PM by Killaloth

Loki wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:39 PM
Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:34 PM
Always a pleasure to bring you back to reality my friend, bb! <3
Brah, you claimed you soloed 60% of your time with BM ... also your chanter wouldn't do diddly squat if you weren't completely submerged, which you know and exploit the hell out of. Im not defending anyone here, but you are the last to preach on soloing

And you and all other sneaks wouldn't have done all those solo kills if you weren't "completely stealth, which you know and exploit the hell out of this feature" - lol!

So what? Water gives no los, you use what you have.

Also, last attacker > face. Some ppl take 5 seconds to realise where arrows/casts are coming from, some 0.5 secs..

I don't complain when people kite los behind rocks, I would have killed them if they were not los, right?

E.g. I died to Crvtz in the water because he is a skilled skald. Looking at how he plays I would prolly die 10 more times in a row but I beat other skalds 90% of time with no MoC coz they just don't know what they are doing.

Also, water is often the only chance to have a fair shot at BDs. With no surprise effect you need a so-and-so BD and at least 5mins to kill one, with 0 room for error.

Thu 7 May 2020 3:48 PM by inoeth

Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:34 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 12:05 PM
Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 10:49 AM
It's about looking for a fair fight.

I am a chanter, I don't touch tanks because it's lame, unless they attack first. PvP zone is not made for rps farming but to have fun and let others have fun w/o ruining their game. That's how many people see it.

I only inc BDs, skalds, champions and casters because they can all kill me, it's challenging and it's fun.

If you go around with a BD to farm tanks in the duel zone what do you expect if not being zerged down

Now can you please all go to my "50+ pets rupting MoC" thread and express your opinion?

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13702 < for your convenience

I want to see 30 RAs point forcing the mini to use SoS, IP or simply I want to die anyway while still moving my little lurikeen hands because this change will not give anyone a win button vs any ministrel, just a bit more fairness. Thank you!

nice how you pretend to be a nice fighter... remeber the days when you added everything and kited into guards? was that no lame?

Here comes the attention seeker again. I was surprised you resisted the temptation for so long. Now you can receive the usual public lesson, welcome back!

Kiting to guards? Here's what a solo player looks like:

https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/solokills?time-frame=all-time&filter=caster
https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/solokills?time-frame=all-time&filter=melee

Which classes are above the OP solo BM and chanters? All done with no MoC and group spec uhuh.

You don't even make the top 50 stealthers with your hunter Also, it seems one of your guildmates has 50% more solo kills than you with less rank. Math says he is a true soloer and you are a true keyboard warrior, boom! Watch your stats before finger-pointing bro.

I'm far, far away to only 1vs1 with my chanter but I don't point fingers as you do.

See what happens when you just talk? Facts and numbers come under your nose and you get caught red-handed.

PS I don't add your fights in the PvP zone because I respect your opponent, not because I respect you. Receiving your QQ via PM while you boil inside is very entertaining and I miss it tho.

Always a pleasure to bring you back to reality my friend, bb! <3

who do you mean with "one of my guild"? i have most solo kills in my guild dude

also:
killahot 8,167 kills / 1,074 solokills
killaloth 29,570 kills / 1,640 solokills

horg 5,310 kills / 2,236 solokills

but yeah you are a true soloer (lets forget you zerged your bm to rr11 for a second and did all your baseline stun chanter rp with coastguarding)
you are derailing yourself here

Thu 7 May 2020 3:51 PM by inoeth

DarkDavion wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 7:34 AM
Lul I rly want to see you vs a minstrel. What do u have more than me as a champ? Don't misunderstand me, I have kicked a lot of minstrels but they were rly brain dead, a normal IQ minstrel can kick all

insta speed and a pet that can interrupt ellyl pets

Thu 7 May 2020 4:43 PM by Killaloth

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 3:48 PM
Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:34 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 12:05 PM
nice how you pretend to be a nice fighter... remeber the days when you added everything and kited into guards? was that no lame?

Here comes the attention seeker again. I was surprised you resisted the temptation for so long. Now you can receive the usual public lesson, welcome back!

Kiting to guards? Here's what a solo player looks like:

https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/solokills?time-frame=all-time&filter=caster
https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/solokills?time-frame=all-time&filter=melee

Which classes are above the OP solo BM and chanters? All done with no MoC and group spec uhuh.

You don't even make the top 50 stealthers with your hunter Also, it seems one of your guildmates has 50% more solo kills than you with less rank. Math says he is a true soloer and you are a true keyboard warrior, boom! Watch your stats before finger-pointing bro.

I'm far, far away to only 1vs1 with my chanter but I don't point fingers as you do.

See what happens when you just talk? Facts and numbers come under your nose and you get caught red-handed.

PS I don't add your fights in the PvP zone because I respect your opponent, not because I respect you. Receiving your QQ via PM while you boil inside is very entertaining and I miss it tho.

Always a pleasure to bring you back to reality my friend, bb! <3

who do you mean with "one of my guild"? i have most solo kills in my guild dude

also:
killahot 8,167 kills / 1,074 solokills
killaloth 29,570 kills / 1,640 solokills

horg 5,310 kills / 2,236 solokills

but yeah you are a true soloer (lets forget you zerged your bm to rr11 for a second and did all your baseline stun chanter rp with coastguarding)
you are derailing yourself here

Bodyshop, not your guild, he is Black Flag.

Hib tank w most solo kills, excluding Champs?
Hib caster w most solo kills?

Stats compatible with "add everything and kite to guard" & "zerged to rr11"? No.
Stats compatible with "I am a little kid chain spamming OT stuff about the guy that makes me angry"? Yes!

Comparing sneak solo kills with visible solo kills makes a VERY solid counter-argument.

The rabbit hole is deep, keep on digging buddy.

Thu 7 May 2020 4:52 PM by Astaa

Blitze wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 2:02 PM
Was a fun RvR event a few days ago with lots of varied action (adds, ganks, 1v1v1s etc) and some duals.

Now it’s very stale high RR duelling with only the best 1v1 classes in a massive zone. I don’t enjoy this gamestyle for more than 10mins every month or so. For me I think overall the zone has lost its use.

If the high RRs want to keep it open then I’m fine with that. But I think a biweekly one day event would suit this type of zone much better with the zone closed in the meantime!

Take home message:
The zone should be a limited time thing with full RPs for one day!

I think I could get on board with this, even just including it in some sort of event rotation, have it open for a weekend every month or something.

Thu 7 May 2020 6:50 PM by Sepplord

Why full RP when it is an event though?

A huge RPfarm isn't better just because it is limited to single days...imo its even worse because not everyone can participate

Fri 8 May 2020 6:53 AM by inoeth

Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 4:43 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 3:48 PM
Killaloth wrote: ↑
Thu 7 May 2020 1:34 PM
Here comes the attention seeker again. I was surprised you resisted the temptation for so long. Now you can receive the usual public lesson, welcome back!

Kiting to guards? Here's what a solo player looks like:

https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/solokills?time-frame=all-time&filter=caster
https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/solokills?time-frame=all-time&filter=melee

Which classes are above the OP solo BM and chanters? All done with no MoC and group spec uhuh.

You don't even make the top 50 stealthers with your hunter Also, it seems one of your guildmates has 50% more solo kills than you with less rank. Math says he is a true soloer and you are a true keyboard warrior, boom! Watch your stats before finger-pointing bro.

I'm far, far away to only 1vs1 with my chanter but I don't point fingers as you do.

See what happens when you just talk? Facts and numbers come under your nose and you get caught red-handed.

PS I don't add your fights in the PvP zone because I respect your opponent, not because I respect you. Receiving your QQ via PM while you boil inside is very entertaining and I miss it tho.

Always a pleasure to bring you back to reality my friend, bb! <3

who do you mean with "one of my guild"? i have most solo kills in my guild dude

also:
killahot 8,167 kills / 1,074 solokills
killaloth 29,570 kills / 1,640 solokills

horg 5,310 kills / 2,236 solokills

but yeah you are a true soloer (lets forget you zerged your bm to rr11 for a second and did all your baseline stun chanter rp with coastguarding)
you are derailing yourself here

Bodyshop, not your guild, he is Black Flag.

Hib tank w most solo kills, excluding Champs?
Hib caster w most solo kills?

Stats compatible with "add everything and kite to guard" & "zerged to rr11"? No.
Stats compatible with "I am a little kid chain spamming OT stuff about the guy that makes me angry"? Yes!

Comparing sneak solo kills with visible solo kills makes a VERY solid counter-argument.

The rabbit hole is deep, keep on digging buddy.

i dont know why you compare an assassin to a hunter here, assassins obviously kill much faster therefore have lesser chance to get added therefore have more solo kills compared to total deathblows.

im not the only one around here that thinks you are far from a solo guy and i know what you did, because you added me plenty and i also watched you alot while adding and lame kiting to guards and stuff.

and why would i not compare visi to stealther stats? its absolutely possible to have compareable stats. take a look at:

https://herald.playphoenix.online/c/Kemy
https://herald.playphoenix.online/c/Gotmagi
https://herald.playphoenix.online/c/Fotmagain

see? you are just bad dude, face it!

ofc you can pretend to be a good guy but believe me ppl are not blind nor stupid, nobody believes your lies and your stats also tell another story... sorry bro you are already very deep in your own rabbid hole