Reduce evenom disease timer! - Phoenix Freeshard

It's daft that it last 3 minutes, no fight lasts that long. If you win you're just stood there diseased. Reduce it to 30 secs - 1 minute please.

Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:16 AM by gotwqqd

I actually just want to see no poisons on inventory weapons
Then resists mean something

Sun 26 Apr 2020 12:32 PM by Noashakra

Definitly something that needs to be fixed. Give us a cure or limit this crap to 30s/1mn max

Sun 26 Apr 2020 1:33 PM by Riac

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:16 AM
I actually just want to see no poisons on inventory weapons
Then resists mean something

maybe if you could apply all poisons with one weapon swing, sure. but no inv weapons poisoned? so now i only get to use 3 poisons on someone? what if they purge? this is beyond poorly thought out.
also, resists mean a lot already. when they resist my poison and idk which one it is, its a big problem. if they i do know, its somewhat ok, assuming they dont beat me ass in the 1 or 2 swings they get w/ no debuffs up. its an even bigger problem vs other sins, if they get all poisons up on me and they resist some of mine, its not good at all.

Sun 26 Apr 2020 9:00 PM by thirian24

gotwqqd wrote: I actually just want to see no poisons on inventory weapons
Then resists mean something

This is the type of BS crying that goes on 24/7. Here on the forums and in-game. These people whine and cry non-stop about stuff that they don't like because they aren't able to play around it, aren't good at their class or don't understand core game mechanics.

Last night I seem someone raging in /region chat saying that mezz and root immunity needed to last 5 minutes. Lol WTF?

This is why we see so many bullshit changes on this server. People whine and cry all day long, then we get some BS change from the staff.

Just STFU already.

Mon 27 Apr 2020 5:21 AM by gotwqqd

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 26 Apr 2020 9:00 PM
gotwqqd wrote: I actually just want to see no poisons on inventory weapons
Then resists mean something

This is the type of BS crying that goes on 24/7. Here on the forums and in-game. These people whine and cry non-stop about stuff that they don't like because they aren't able to play around it, aren't good at their class or don't understand core game mechanics.

Last night I seem someone raging in /region chat saying that mezz and root immunity needed to last 5 minutes. Lol WTF?

This is why we see so many bullshit changes on this server. People whine and cry all day long, then we get some BS change from the staff.

Just STFU already.

Blow me
Assassins have far too many options they don’t need to be able to reapply
It completely negates othere use of purge

Mon 27 Apr 2020 5:05 PM by thirian24

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Mon 27 Apr 2020 5:21 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 26 Apr 2020 9:00 PM
gotwqqd wrote: I actually just want to see no poisons on inventory weapons
Then resists mean something

This is the type of BS crying that goes on 24/7. Here on the forums and in-game. These people whine and cry non-stop about stuff that they don't like because they aren't able to play around it, aren't good at their class or don't understand core game mechanics.

Last night I seem someone raging in /region chat saying that mezz and root immunity needed to last 5 minutes. Lol WTF?

This is why we see so many bullshit changes on this server. People whine and cry all day long, then we get some BS change from the staff.

Just STFU already.
Blow me
Assassins have far too many options they don’t need to be able to reapply
It completely negates othere use of purge

And a single RA should negate hundreds of skill points that my class is literally built around?

Please re-read my first post, over and over and over again before you reply.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:09 PM by Lillebror

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Mon 27 Apr 2020 5:05 PM
gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Mon 27 Apr 2020 5:21 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 26 Apr 2020 9:00 PM
This is the type of BS crying that goes on 24/7. Here on the forums and in-game. These people whine and cry non-stop about stuff that they don't like because they aren't able to play around it, aren't good at their class or don't understand core game mechanics.

Last night I seem someone raging in /region chat saying that mezz and root immunity needed to last 5 minutes. Lol WTF?

This is why we see so many bullshit changes on this server. People whine and cry all day long, then we get some BS change from the staff.

Just STFU already.
Blow me
Assassins have far too many options they don’t need to be able to reapply
It completely negates othere use of purge

And a single RA should negate hundreds of skill points that my class is literally built around?

Please re-read my first post, over and over and over again before you reply.

Best part is that You can already pay 10 claws and Get a SL pot that negate your points in stealth (not 100% ofc but its a joke imo)
Its the wrong way of fixing overpopulasion of Assassins/Archers

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:14 PM by Razur Ur

Reduce duration from Disease or give all cl disease!!!! Duration from 3 Minutes is only bullshit!

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:22 PM by Riac

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Mon 27 Apr 2020 5:21 AM
thirian24 wrote: ↑
Sun 26 Apr 2020 9:00 PM
gotwqqd wrote: I actually just want to see no poisons on inventory weapons
Then resists mean something

This is the type of BS crying that goes on 24/7. Here on the forums and in-game. These people whine and cry non-stop about stuff that they don't like because they aren't able to play around it, aren't good at their class or don't understand core game mechanics.

Last night I seem someone raging in /region chat saying that mezz and root immunity needed to last 5 minutes. Lol WTF?

This is why we see so many bullshit changes on this server. People whine and cry all day long, then we get some BS change from the staff.

Just STFU already.
Blow me
Assassins have far too many options they don’t need to be able to reapply
It completely negates othere use of purge

a sin fighting a non poisoned person is an actual joke, its like fighting someone that isnt even 50.
ppl like this just 100% lack perspective.
i lose fights to fully debuffed tanks. now imagine i only get to use 3 poisons and get no reapplies after purge. its just free rps for the visi.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:29 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:22 PM
a sin fighting a non poisoned person is an actual joke, its like fighting someone that isnt even 50.
ppl like this just 100% lack perspective.
i lose fights to fully debuffed tanks. now imagine i only get to use 3 poisons and get no reapplies after purge. its just free rps for the visi.

have your enemy disease and snare than can you easy run away :-). i had fighting vs infi where disease me and snared me with garotte spam after fail pa ^^
and this three times in row, i had no chance to follow with champion.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:31 PM by Sepplord

whenever someone brings up "amount of skillpoints" i can't help myself but roll my eyes...it is such a bad metric and only used to sound dramatic

Different classes have various different amounts of speccpoints and usage of speccpoints and resulting skills are not balanced accross classes at all. The amount of specpoints being used is quite irrelevant in the decisionmaking of a spec. It is always about the package that you get at the end of a complete specc. The alternative is what matters.
Noone keeps unused speccpoints because there is nothing worth the points left.
Noone looks at a class and doesn't specc something, because a different class can negate it with an ability that cost less speccpoints.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:36 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:29 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:22 PM
a sin fighting a non poisoned person is an actual joke, its like fighting someone that isnt even 50.
ppl like this just 100% lack perspective.
i lose fights to fully debuffed tanks. now imagine i only get to use 3 poisons and get no reapplies after purge. its just free rps for the visi.

have your enemy disease and snare than can you easy run away :-). i had fighting vs infi where disease me and snared me with garotte spam after fail pa ^^
and this three times in row, i had no chance to follow with champion.

is this a way to victory or just a way to run away? i feel like this a lost in communication moment.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:36 PM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:31 PM
whenever someone brings up "amount of skillpoints" i can't help myself but roll my eyes...it is such a bad metric and only used to sound dramatic

the point is that atm infi/sb/ns to strong is vs visible classes ;-). disease + anytime snare is a joke! iam glad that this lame action with disease and
anytime snare + run away not doing much guys.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:37 PM by Riac

disease timer could be reduced its w/e, but the idea of sins not being able to use bag weapons is just pure trash and will never make it into the game. its not even really worth talking about.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:42 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:36 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:31 PM
whenever someone brings up "amount of skillpoints" i can't help myself but roll my eyes...it is such a bad metric and only used to sound dramatic

the point is that atm infi/sb/ns to strong is vs visible classes ;-). disease + anytime snare is a joke! iam glad that this lame action with disease and
anytime snare + run away not doing much guys.

sins arent that strong. tbh, i dont know how any tank above rank 8 (AND IS RA SPECCED FOR SOLO FIGHTS) ever loses to a sin. ip 4 is such a huge amount of hp to recover, you pretty much have to kill them twice. id need like 9 weapons for that shit. moc casters done lose, necros dont lose, sms and bds generally dont lose. the easy rps are the rando casters, the retard tank players who have no idea what they are doing, and lesser sins.
summed up, if you have a high rank char and youre losing to sins on this server. youre probably the problem.
at the bare minimium it should be a toss up on who wins (assuming no bull shit is going on like adds or lucky crit sequences)
there are plenty of ppl running around and i just keep on going because i know they are a hard ass and would rather blow my purge on someone easier.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:44 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:36 PM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:29 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:22 PM
a sin fighting a non poisoned person is an actual joke, its like fighting someone that isnt even 50.
ppl like this just 100% lack perspective.
i lose fights to fully debuffed tanks. now imagine i only get to use 3 poisons and get no reapplies after purge. its just free rps for the visi.

have your enemy disease and snare than can you easy run away :-). i had fighting vs infi where disease me and snared me with garotte spam after fail pa ^^
and this three times in row, i had no chance to follow with champion.
is this a way to victory or just a way to run away? i feel like this a lost in communication moment.

both my bro ^_^, i cant not rly reg health but the infi got health reg and attack me half minutes later because of this long timer from disease. i said this action
is very lame easy win for steahlther.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:49 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:42 PM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:36 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:31 PM
whenever someone brings up "amount of skillpoints" i can't help myself but roll my eyes...it is such a bad metric and only used to sound dramatic

the point is that atm infi/sb/ns to strong is vs visible classes ;-). disease + anytime snare is a joke! iam glad that this lame action with disease and
anytime snare + run away not doing much guys.

sins arent that strong. tbh, i dont know how any tank above rank 8 (AND IS RA SPECCED FOR SOLO FIGHTS) ever loses to a sin. ip 4 is such a huge amount of hp to recover, you pretty much have to kill them twice. id need like 9 weapons for that shit. moc casters done lose, necros dont lose, sms and bds generally dont lose. the easy rps are the rando casters, the retard tank players who have no idea what they are doing, and lesser sins.

you forget vanish? purge and moc a caster can every stealther using vanish! half minute later is this caster easy snack no purge/moc rd ;-). VS tank you can use vanish
after he used ip/purge or you disease again + peeling with anytimer snare and run away ;-), after half minute easy win vs tank without purge/ip.

Only Necro/BD and SM is rly hard for stealther ^^.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:50 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:44 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:36 PM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:29 PM
have your enemy disease and snare than can you easy run away :-). i had fighting vs infi where disease me and snared me with garotte spam after fail pa ^^
and this three times in row, i had no chance to follow with champion.
is this a way to victory or just a way to run away? i feel like this a lost in communication moment.

both my bro ^_^, i cant not rly reg health but the infi got health reg and attack me half minutes later because of this long timer from disease. i said this action
is very lame easy win for steahlther.

yea, you can do the ole garrote and run, but 9 times out of 10 (assuming its not the dead of night) someone is gonna run up and finish that first.
arent you a champ? i feel like w/ proper snare management you should be able to keep him in combat, unless he purges and if he purges then lol. i got fucking globaled by a r4 champ the other day, i couldnt believe it. he ran through anihilated me, sat stun, ST and i couldnt get out in time, and anhilated me again and WOCed and that was it for me.
i personally think they should just make an alch potion to remove disease that can only be used like FA or MCL, 30 secs out of combat. if it were a minute it would be a bit moot. however, this will have consequences in an 8 man scenario. so mabe only make it usable if you are ungrouped, idk. that would also fuck over stealth zergers which i am 100% for.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:51 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:49 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:42 PM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:36 PM
the point is that atm infi/sb/ns to strong is vs visible classes ;-). disease + anytime snare is a joke! iam glad that this lame action with disease and
anytime snare + run away not doing much guys.

sins arent that strong. tbh, i dont know how any tank above rank 8 (AND IS RA SPECCED FOR SOLO FIGHTS) ever loses to a sin. ip 4 is such a huge amount of hp to recover, you pretty much have to kill them twice. id need like 9 weapons for that shit. moc casters done lose, necros dont lose, sms and bds generally dont lose. the easy rps are the rando casters, the retard tank players who have no idea what they are doing, and lesser sins.

you forget vanish? purge and moc a caster can every stealther using vanish! half minute later is this caster easy snack no purge/moc rd ;-). VS tank you can use vanish
after he used ip/purge or you disease again + peeling with anytimer snare and run away ;-), after half minute easy win vs tank without purge/ip.

yea i suppose you can vanish, i dont use my vanish on solo fights. i just take the L, boats just make it far to easy to get around, no need to blow my CD. i reserve vanish for adding fucks only. if you get denied a solo kill because i vanished, its because one of your thirsty ass realm mates or a FG is running up. take it up with them.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:59 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:51 PM
yea i suppose you can vanish, i dont use my vanish on solo fights. i just take the L, boats just make it far to easy to get around, no need to blow my CD. i reserve vanish for adding fucks only. if you get denied a solo kill because i vanished, its because one of your thirsty ass realm mates or a FG is running up. take it up with them.

yeah this is nice fom you but you understand what i mean with this lame game mechanic can you win but this example is not nice ^^.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:00 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:59 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:51 PM
yea i suppose you can vanish, i dont use my vanish on solo fights. i just take the L, boats just make it far to easy to get around, no need to blow my CD. i reserve vanish for adding fucks only. if you get denied a solo kill because i vanished, its because one of your thirsty ass realm mates or a FG is running up. take it up with them.

yeah this is nice fom you but you understand what i mean with this lame game mechanic can you win but this example is not nice ^^.

get them SL pots ready. if you know the dude is a vanisher, prepop that shit. its good for a minute.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:03 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:00 PM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:59 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:51 PM
yea i suppose you can vanish, i dont use my vanish on solo fights. i just take the L, boats just make it far to easy to get around, no need to blow my CD. i reserve vanish for adding fucks only. if you get denied a solo kill because i vanished, its because one of your thirsty ass realm mates or a FG is running up. take it up with them.

yeah this is nice fom you but you understand what i mean with this lame game mechanic can you win but this example is not nice ^^.

get them SL pots ready. if you know the dude is a vanisher, prepop that shit. its good for a minute.

i try it but this speed with vanish is to strong and you have no chance to follow the steahlter. how i said disease + 60%snare is to strong, that is the reason for
me to demand a shorter duration with disease or remove garotte snare.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:11 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:03 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:00 PM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 1:59 PM
yeah this is nice fom you but you understand what i mean with this lame game mechanic can you win but this example is not nice ^^.

get them SL pots ready. if you know the dude is a vanisher, prepop that shit. its good for a minute.

i try it but this speed with vanish is to strong and you have no chance to follow the steahlter. how i said disease + 60%snare is to strong, that is the reason for
me to demand a shorter duration with disease or remove garotte snare.

if hes moving at reduced speed he will be moving at reduced speed in the vanish, it doesnt work like sos, the fastest he can move if he is hurt is at strafe speed. so you should be able to keep up even diseased. garrotte doesnt last that long. he also has a full 30 secs of disarm, so if oyu do find him, hes 100% fucked.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:33 PM by Sepplord

but you have no idea which direction he went...

SL pots help a lot finding a vansiher, but it's still a toss-up at best

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:40 PM by Riac

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:33 PM
but you have no idea which direction he went...

SL pots help a lot finding a vansiher, but it's still a toss-up at best

yea, its a gamble, but its a hell of a lot better gamble than not having an SL pot. some ppl just seem super good at knowing which way they went, im generally not too lucky and i just move on. ill get that pussy in to 2-3 more mins when he has no vanish, and if he wants to camp CDs, thats cool to, ill kill someone else.
honestly if youre are staying in the same location long enough for this dude to go sit and get hp, thats a bit on you for resting when you KNOW a stealther is around.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:49 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:40 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:33 PM
but you have no idea which direction he went...

SL pots help a lot finding a vansiher, but it's still a toss-up at best

yea, its a gamble, but its a hell of a lot better gamble than not having an SL pot. some ppl just seem super good at knowing which way they went, im generally not too lucky and i just move on. ill get that pussy in to 2-3 more mins when he has no vanish, and if he wants to camp CDs, thats cool to, ill kill someone else.
honestly if youre are staying in the same location long enough for this dude to go sit and get hp, thats a bit on you for resting when you KNOW a stealther is around.

yeah this solution sounds good but you forget the disease duration :-D if the enemy vanished steahlter not complete blind then saw he your SL and then he dont
attack you and waiting for ending of SL. the problem is you need many keep/tower raids for many SL potion ^^ only for evade PA.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:52 PM by Sepplord

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:40 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:33 PM
but you have no idea which direction he went...

SL pots help a lot finding a vansiher, but it's still a toss-up at best

yea, its a gamble, but its a hell of a lot better gamble than not having an SL pot. some ppl just seem super good at knowing which way they went, im generally not too lucky and i just move on. ill get that pussy in to 2-3 more mins when he has no vanish, and if he wants to camp CDs, thats cool to, ill kill someone else.
honestly if youre are staying in the same location long enough for this dude to go sit and get hp, thats a bit on you for resting when you KNOW a stealther is around.

definitely, i just mentioned it because some might interpret it as SL=easywin. I can understand why people don't pre-pot them in every fight VS an assassin. If you don't find a vanished one though, get the hell out of there (unless you stil are in the position to win the reengagement)

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:59 PM by Riac

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:52 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:40 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:33 PM
but you have no idea which direction he went...

SL pots help a lot finding a vansiher, but it's still a toss-up at best

yea, its a gamble, but its a hell of a lot better gamble than not having an SL pot. some ppl just seem super good at knowing which way they went, im generally not too lucky and i just move on. ill get that pussy in to 2-3 more mins when he has no vanish, and if he wants to camp CDs, thats cool to, ill kill someone else.
honestly if youre are staying in the same location long enough for this dude to go sit and get hp, thats a bit on you for resting when you KNOW a stealther is around.

definitely, i just mentioned it because some might interpret it as SL=easywin. I can understand why people don't pre-pot them in every fight VS an assassin. If you don't find a vanished one though, get the hell out of there (unless you stil are in the position to win the reengagement)

obv you wont do it in every fight unless youre rich as fuck. but you get to know ppl when you see them over and over again, and you get a good idea of who the cheese dicks are.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 3:01 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:49 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:40 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:33 PM
but you have no idea which direction he went...

SL pots help a lot finding a vansiher, but it's still a toss-up at best

yea, its a gamble, but its a hell of a lot better gamble than not having an SL pot. some ppl just seem super good at knowing which way they went, im generally not too lucky and i just move on. ill get that pussy in to 2-3 more mins when he has no vanish, and if he wants to camp CDs, thats cool to, ill kill someone else.
honestly if youre are staying in the same location long enough for this dude to go sit and get hp, thats a bit on you for resting when you KNOW a stealther is around.

yeah this solution sounds good but you forget the disease duration :-D if the enemy vanished steahlter not complete blind then saw he your SL and then he dont
attack you and waiting for ending of SL. the problem is you need many keep/tower raids for many SL potion ^^ only for evade PA.

just buy the claws. if your serious about soloing, youre gonna need the SL pots. you can do it all you want w/o them, but its a bit like beating your head against the wall. just make it easy on yourself and buy them.
get dmg shield pots too

Wed 29 Apr 2020 3:02 PM by Kwall0311

They probably just look over these suggestions and pass them up because nobody ever stays on topic. Smh

Disease is too long

Wed 29 Apr 2020 3:04 PM by Riac

Kwall0311 wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 3:02 PM
They probably just look over these suggestions and pass them up because nobody ever stays on topic. Smh

Disease is too long

im not sure they look at the suggestions at all. all the proposed things that come out is shit that no one has ever said before it seems like. they just look at what ppl are bitching about then come up with some wild af idea from who knows where.