improving /gvg list /fair list

Started 30 Dec 2020
by Nephamael
in Suggestions
Hey, i came up with an idea to improve the /gvg and /fair list for 8men, smallmen and solos.

Even for 8men it is sometimes hard to find the other groups on the list, especially in zones like Ellan Vannin. For smallmen outside the middle zones (penninne etc) it is also difficult and for solos it is often impossible in most zones.

Here is my suggestion:

All groups/players on the /list will be shown with a more precise location and the direction in which they are moving.

Example: Jukaron's 8man is in Ellan Vannin Southeast, moving North

Example2: Jukaron is in Emain Macha, at Dun Crauchon East Bridge, not moving

Example3: Jukaron is in Hadrian's Wall, close to the Flag at Caer Erasleigh Outpost moving Southwest

Example4: Jukaron's 4man is in Penninne Mountains, in the Maze, moving East


Those Examples are ideas, ofc they have to be codeable by the DEVs.
I would be especially interested in feedback by the Phoenix team.

I discussed this idea with many people and did find broad positive feedback.

Remember, if you don't wanna put yourself findable you can simply stay off the list - the lists are intended to make it so people/groups can find one another.



--- existing commands are:

/gvg toggle = your 8man is on the list /gvg list = you see all 8men on the list /gvg cleanfight = after a clean fight each member of both groups get 1k RPs
/fair toggle = your smallman is on the list /fair list = you see all smallmen with +/-1 member of your own groupsize on the list
/fair toggle = you are on the solo list /fair list = you can see all other solos on the list
Wed 30 Dec 2020 7:06 PM by stripperrella
if you are having a hard time to find a group on the smallest rvr map (EV) you are doing something wrong.

in my opinion GVG is the most unnecessary thing that they are trying to install..

i would actually like to know why mythic invented 3 realms and not 2 realms if helping another Realmgroup wasn't indented in RVR. Aswell if adding wasn't indented why they didn't put a Instance for 8vs8...



so i am here because i readed this server is classic RVR.. now after more than a year they are forcing a game change. if it's what they wanna play, ok! but if it's what the 10% playerbase wants i am not fine with it. asking for removal of this GVG thing. it's nosense to mix GVG and RVR.

PS: edit: By this meaning i am done with RVR until than.
Wed 30 Dec 2020 9:59 PM by Nephamael
it's nosense to mix GVG and RVR.

You are wrong.

The beauty of daoc is the many different! playstyles it offers to the players.

And most people don't exclusively play 1 of the available playstyles, but many of them.

For the better of the server try to start and respect other playstyles No matter if you're a soloer, like 8v8, 8roam, small, zerg or pve. DaoC is a small community - best we stick together and make the Phoenix server as enjoyable as we can for everyone.


Also instancing a content away would be sad for most people, who enjoy the feeling of not always knowing what they find on todays roam.
Wed 30 Dec 2020 10:24 PM by ExcretusMaximus
stripperrella wrote:
Wed 30 Dec 2020 7:06 PM
now after more than a year they are forcing a game change

If you've been here a year, then the GvG list has been part of Phoenix longer than you have.

It's a garbage mechanic, but it's not a new one.
Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:28 PM by Sagz
Nephamael wrote:
Wed 30 Dec 2020 4:32 PM
Hey, i came up with an idea to improve the /gvg and /fair list for 8men, smallmen and solos.

Even for 8men it is sometimes hard to find the other groups on the list, especially in zones like Ellan Vannin. For smallmen outside the middle zones (penninne etc) it is also difficult and for solos it is often impossible in most zones.

Here is my suggestion:

All groups/players on the /list will be shown with a more precise location and the direction in which they are moving.

Example: Jukaron's 8man is in Ellan Vannin Southeast, moving North

Example2: Jukaron is in Emain Macha, at Dun Crauchon East Bridge, not moving

Example3: Jukaron is in Hadrian's Wall, close to the Flag at Caer Erasleigh Outpost moving Southwest

Example4: Jukaron's 4man is in Penninne Mountains, in the Maze, moving East


Those Examples are ideas, ofc they have to be codeable by the DEVs.
I would be especially interested in feedback by the Phoenix team.

I discussed this idea with many people and did find broad positive feedback.

Remember, if you don't wanna put yourself findable you can simply stay off the list - the lists are intended to make it so people/groups can find one another.



--- existing commands are:

/gvg toggle = your 8man is on the list /gvg list = you see all 8men on the list /gvg cleanfight = after a clean fight each member of both groups get 1k RPs
/fair toggle = your smallman is on the list /fair list = you see all smallmen with +/-1 member of your own groupsize on the list
/fair toggle = you are on the solo list /fair list = you can see all other solos on the list

Why try to reinvent a wheel here? Keep it simple

1. Remove task from EV
2. Groups only allowed to GvG list and clean fight on the island
3. You do not even need a third step

Enjoy.
Thu 31 Dec 2020 4:16 PM by Nephamael
Why try to reinvent a wheel here? Keep it simple

While /gvg is mostly working and i only intend to make it work even better the /fair lists don't work for smallmen and solos most of the time, because you fail to find each other reliably - so i rly try to fix the idea to truly work as intended.
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