Scouts practically have melee immunity.

Started 10 Jul 2021
by Xrystofer
in Suggestions
Sat 10 Jul 2021 2:31 PM by Xrystofer
#165084
There's no other class that is as frustrating to fight against as scouts. You purge their slam and they immediately root you for more than 10 seconds. Their root is very overturned. I don't even understand why they get root in the first place. Why do they get 2 CC abilities when the two other classes have none?

A snared/diseased scout can get away easily from his target without even using any actives. Just slam and root and you get away. Other classes have to use active abilities to get away (vanish and sos).

Not even a Minstrel with purge/sos/IP frustrates me as much as a scout just slamming and rooting me. I have ZERO counterplay for this. Please remove this BS ability to root people without immunity.
Sat 10 Jul 2021 3:31 PM by gotwqqd
#165086
The root should be 4 or 5 seconds
Personally I wish they would take it away and up scout bow damage and have the 45 shield style no root but offensive damage with a snare and tohit bonus
Sat 10 Jul 2021 5:16 PM by Astaa
#165089
Working as designed and intended. The root (it might as well be a root...) should at the very least be positional. Realistically, it should be removed.
Sat 10 Jul 2021 6:11 PM by hachetay
#165090
Ok but it does almost no dmg in melee and less dmg in bow than the other archers because no buff no add dmg no pet no double weapon/two hand
Sat 10 Jul 2021 11:00 PM by Noashakra
#165103
hachetay wrote:
Sat 10 Jul 2021 6:11 PM
Ok but it does almost no dmg in melee and less dmg in bow than the other archers because no buff no add dmg no pet no double weapon/two hand

In fact, especially since the melee range nerf, it makes scout able to kite 2/3 persons.
No other archer can do this.
Sat 10 Jul 2021 11:50 PM by ExcretusMaximus
#165106
Noashakra wrote:
Sat 10 Jul 2021 11:00 PM
In fact, especially since the melee range nerf, it makes scout able to kite 2/3 persons.
No other archer can do this.

If only Rangers (frontal CD style) and Hunters (anytime spear) had an easy to land snare they could use to kite. Alas, they totally don't have one at all. Because no other archer can kite. Only Scouts.
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Sun 11 Jul 2021 12:23 AM by Hodge
#165107
Why not change the 45 style into and two part anytime chain where 40 starts it. That would make it compare to hunter.
Sun 11 Jul 2021 2:18 AM by tefla
#165117
Xrystofer wrote:
Sat 10 Jul 2021 2:31 PM
There's no other class that is as frustrating to fight against as scouts. You purge their slam and they immediately root you for more than 10 seconds. Their root is very overturned. I don't even understand why they get root in the first place. Why do they get 2 CC abilities when the two other classes have none?

A snared/diseased scout can get away easily from his target without even using any actives. Just slam and root and you get away. Other classes have to use active abilities to get away (vanish and sos).

Not even a Minstrel with purge/sos/IP frustrates me as much as a scout just slamming and rooting me. I have ZERO counterplay for this. Please remove this BS ability to root people without immunity.

Don't purge the slam. Purge the snare, problem sloved right there
Sun 11 Jul 2021 10:07 AM by Noashakra
#165132
ExcretusMaximus wrote:
Sat 10 Jul 2021 11:50 PM
Noashakra wrote:
Sat 10 Jul 2021 11:00 PM
In fact, especially since the melee range nerf, it makes scout able to kite 2/3 persons.
No other archer can do this.

If only Rangers (frontal CD style) and Hunters (anytime spear) had an easy to land snare they could use to kite. Alas, they totally don't have one at all. Because no other archer can kite. Only Scouts.

The difference is that the scouts have a shield + slam to avoid being peeled back and manage 2/3 people. On top, the others snares are 60%, not 90% like stop. So if you peel them back, they will get away anyway, unlike rangers or hunters. You paper daoc isn't that strong.

Don't purge the slam. Purge the snare, problem sloved right there

So take crit shot, and a stop just after and get kitted, purge the stop without immunity and get a second stop to get kitted anyway.
10/10 advice
Sun 11 Jul 2021 1:10 PM by Pao
#165136
Back after a long break and player still cry about this.

Scout would have no chance at all without this style and still scouts are easy targets with the style. I don't see why this needs a nerf.

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