smallman /fairfight toggle command

Hi guys,

We had few updates in the last days and the one below no longer appears in /servernews when you log in.

If you like to solo or smallman you'll love it, here's the update from Gruen:

New experimental /fairfight command for solos and small man up to 5 players, similar to the already existing /gvg command
-/fairfight toggle - toggle being listed as looking for fair fights
- /fairfight list - shows a list of people flagged as looking for fair fights
- solos only see other solos, groups see their group size +- 1
- you cannot toggle / list and you are not shown in the list if you were in a too large group within the last 10 minutes or any group at all in case of solo

See you out there!

Fri 29 Nov 2019 10:13 AM by Gohanssj

Seen this, not sure I understand it though... does that mean you're essentially invisible in RvR other than to other solo? Like how does that work? Will that not just split RvR into instances and make it seem dead?

Also part of the satisfaction of soloing is nipping in between a grp and grabbing a solo kill before another group comes etc...

Fri 29 Nov 2019 11:14 AM by Sepplord

Gohanssj wrote: ↑
Fri 29 Nov 2019 10:13 AM
Seen this, not sure I understand it though... does that mean you're essentially invisible in RvR other than to other solo? Like how does that work? Will that not just split RvR into instances and make it seem dead?

Also part of the satisfaction of soloing is nipping in between a grp and grabbing a solo kill before another group comes etc...

All it does it show your group and it's location (aka 4man group killalot, 3friendnames - Hadrians Wall or similar) to other similarly sized groups that have activated the command and are also listed.
It will not make any difference regarding who can fight whom, they can still see and fight anyone regardless of them using the command or not.

It will just show to soloperson1 that there is soloperson2 in Odins, soloperson3,4&5 in Hadrians and another in Breifine (or something like that)

PS: hearsay, i haven't been able to do RvR this week yet

Fri 29 Nov 2019 1:43 PM by Gohanssj

Ahh I see so theoretically you can make ad hoc solo zones by just going there until everyone does, then move on when the zerg follows

Fri 29 Nov 2019 2:39 PM by Sepplord

Gohanssj wrote: ↑
Fri 29 Nov 2019 1:43 PM
Ahh I see so theoretically you can make ad hoc solo zones by just going there until everyone does, then move on when the zerg follows

basically yes

and even if that doesn'T work out, you can at least see: okay there are "this many" groups our size roaming, instead of being completely in the unknown if there even are enemies availalbe that you are looking for.
And since it requires everyone/group to opt in, only people that want to be seen are being shown in the list

Fri 29 Nov 2019 6:19 PM by Gohanssj

yeah that's pretty good, I like that

Tue 3 Dec 2019 7:12 PM by stewbeedoo

It is awesome the way Phoenix supports all playstyles.

Other servers really should have taken this approach.

/clap

Wed 4 Dec 2019 7:42 AM by Razur Ur

I ask me where is the cleanfight command after fairfight toggle and battle ;-)

Fri 6 Dec 2019 7:34 PM by Azuell

Are there many groups using this? I haven't had a chance to play since it was implemented.

Sat 7 Dec 2019 1:31 AM by Killaloth

Azuell wrote: ↑
Fri 6 Dec 2019 7:34 PM
Are there many groups using this? I haven't had a chance to play since it was implemented.

Not many, it seems people find it hard to remember or many still don't know it even exist :/

Perhaps a popup reminder of the command functions once a week could help, sometimes I forget it myself!

Sat 7 Dec 2019 1:46 AM by Azuell

Killaloth wrote: ↑
Sat 7 Dec 2019 1:31 AM
Azuell wrote: ↑
Fri 6 Dec 2019 7:34 PM
Are there many groups using this? I haven't had a chance to play since it was implemented.

Not many, it seems people find it hard to remember or many still don't know it even exist :/

Perhaps a popup reminder of the command functions once a week could help, sometimes I forget it myself!

That's unfortunate. I was a big proponent for this command but I did have worries it might not be used by many. There just aren't a ton of small man groups running around (at least in NA primetime). That's why I was recommending just showing all group sizes (2-5) on one list.

I understand why they limited it to +/- 1 but I still think it segments it too much. Maybe we can revisit in a few weeks and consider having just one list. People will argue this opens it up for larger groups to hunt smaller groups but it's not like the command gives radar to other groups. We are always fighting in dangerous areas anyways and I'd rather fight 2v5 then 2v8.

Either way I applaud the staff for listening to a small portion of the player base and throwing us this bone. I don't agree with all their decisions but they made a pretty great server imo.

Has anyone tried it for solos?

Mon 9 Dec 2019 7:13 AM by Razur Ur

plz implement 1000k bonus for player who using fairfight and fighting vs another fairfightlisting player for more motivation to using this feature.

Mon 9 Dec 2019 6:14 PM by MrWolf

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Dec 2019 7:13 AM
plz implement 1000k bonus for player who using fairfight and fighting vs another fairfightlisting player for more motivation to using this feature.

1 million rp bonus seems a bit too much to me for this XD

Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:07 AM by Razur Ur

MrWolf wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Dec 2019 6:14 PM
Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Dec 2019 7:13 AM
plz implement 1000k bonus for player who using fairfight and fighting vs another fairfightlisting player for more motivation to using this feature.

1 million rp bonus seems a bit too much to me for this XD

Ups you have right i meaing naturally 1k rp :-D or 1000 rp (without k) ^_^

Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:36 AM by Sepplord

i feel like a boost would encourage more people to actually use it, but 1k per fight could be too much...especially for the solos/duos where currently the winner only gets around that much. 1k would double the reward for the winner, and give the loser the reward that currently the winner gets.

maybe make it scale with groupsize, or better, enemy groupsize.

Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:52 AM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:36 AM
i feel like a boost would encourage more people to actually use it, but 1k per fight could be too much...especially for the solos/duos where currently the winner only gets around that much. 1k would double the reward for the winner, and give the loser the reward that currently the winner gets.

maybe make it scale with groupsize, or better, enemy groupsize.

1k is not to much i think, by 8vs8 after cleanfight get all of both groups 1k rp for the same action and 1k is not double rp by 1vs1. I get from fairfight in 1vs1 after
wins 1.1k until 1.4k rps. It is not easy to find a nice 1vs1 without add. For 8men group is this easier to find another 8men group.

Fri 6 Mar 2020 4:18 PM by Killaloth

bump.

Guys remember to use this cmd and make your name searchable on discord.

Easy port between mazes and fun far away from the docks.