RvR bakance

Started 26 Aug 2019
by Aminita
in RvR
For MANY years , since the onset of DAO C 14-15 years ago , the Albs and Mids have always had superior numbers.. Hibs have Always been the underdog..
The Same is showing here on Phoenix.. The ONLY way Hibs have been able to counter this is with the Animist.. For defense and protecting our Keeps, the Animist has been Indispensable . Yet, ... the GMS CONTINUE to GUT the animist to being TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE in RVR ..

The GMs have listen to MIds and Albs Whine about the Animist.. and gutted them beyond effective use..
Now, What do we have?? 205 Albs, 132 hibs.. Yeah.. we can REALLY defend ourselves against those numbers. !

Hey GMs... Please look at this carefully .. HIbs totally NEED the Animist in his regular form to help defend.

10 shroom are fine, the Distance from caster has to go , along with the space between shroomers casting shrooms.

HIb will DIE without the changes..

DONT believe me ..

JUST WATCH .. !!!!!!

AMINITA...
Mon 26 Aug 2019 6:43 PM by Aminita
I need to learn to proofread.. BALANCE ..
Sorry
Mon 26 Aug 2019 7:17 PM by cuuchulain79
This is the server where whole BGs wiped to Thornweed field...and you honestly think the pop here can handle fighting non-watered-down Animists?

Even a RA that's countered with moving a step to the left, gets 28 pages of QQ here.
Mon 26 Aug 2019 7:27 PM by Aminita
Since the last Animist nerf, Hib has lost about 25% of its population to Alb and Mid..
Nobody likes to play where they cant Win..

Keep it up GMs..

I doubt that ANY GMs actually PLAY an animist..
If they did, this wouldnt happen ..

I challenge ANY GM to play an Animist in rvr !!!
Would Love to hear you cry ....
Or, dont you have the Balls to try it and find out the mistakes you have made with the animist gutting.. ???

Animita..
Mon 26 Aug 2019 8:18 PM by chryso
The only animist mistake was creating it as a class.
Tue 27 Aug 2019 12:30 AM by gotwqqd
I don’t think the population disparity has anything to do with classes or power.

It’s all about the image that the realms exude.
Tue 27 Aug 2019 5:49 AM by Killaloth
https://youtu.be/vVCS9whpalc

Animists are fine and are fun to play!

Underpop is a blessing. More enemies, more fun, more rps!

Explore the incredible world that awaits you outside keep walls and towers!
Tue 27 Aug 2019 6:41 AM by Sepplord
Aminita wrote:
Mon 26 Aug 2019 7:27 PM
Since the last Animist nerf, Hib has lost about 25% of its population to Alb and Mid..
Nobody likes to play where they cant Win..

Keep it up GMs..

I doubt that ANY GMs actually PLAY an animist..
If they did, this wouldnt happen ..

I challenge ANY GM to play an Animist in rvr !!!
Would Love to hear you cry ....
Or, dont you have the Balls to try it and find out the mistakes you have made with the animist gutting.. ???

Animita..

Yeah, that tone will surely make them want to consider your arguments neutrally

y 2cents: You seem to be arguing that as a realm hibernia needs to be balanced so it can go toe-2-toe with 200alb while only having 130players. i dislike the idea of making a class OP just because it is in an underpopulated realm.
Tue 27 Aug 2019 12:56 PM by gnefner
Sepplord wrote:
Tue 27 Aug 2019 6:41 AM
Aminita wrote:
Mon 26 Aug 2019 7:27 PM
Since the last Animist nerf, Hib has lost about 25% of its population to Alb and Mid..
Nobody likes to play where they cant Win..

Keep it up GMs..

I doubt that ANY GMs actually PLAY an animist..
If they did, this wouldnt happen ..

I challenge ANY GM to play an Animist in rvr !!!
Would Love to hear you cry ....
Or, dont you have the Balls to try it and find out the mistakes you have made with the animist gutting.. ???

Animita..

Yeah, that tone will surely make them want to consider your arguments neutrally

y 2cents: You seem to be arguing that as a realm hibernia needs to be balanced so it can go toe-2-toe with 200alb while only having 130players. i dislike the idea of making a class OP just because it is in an underpopulated realm.

I actually think his point is, that most of Hibs LEFT, to play Mid and Alb - as there's really no point anymore.. Hibs just doens't have the numbers to compete, and this lagrgely being because of the constant Animist nerfs (one of the main classes used for sieging.) This isn't my pov btw, just conveying what I think he ment
Tue 27 Aug 2019 2:28 PM by Chaskha
You guys need to convey your opinions with less aggro and not making it like the whole world (or staff) hate you.
Damn, it's a good point (maybe) but the way it's written, it's so hard to not just ignore it.
Tue 27 Aug 2019 3:42 PM by kalimah
Well. Way back in the Mythic days, when they nerfed something, THEY NERFED IT HARD. Seems like the ongoing thing here. Make overpop realm very loooong and boring to XP. Not fast and easy. That'll switch players minds if they want to jump on the bandwagon.
Tue 27 Aug 2019 7:40 PM by Aminita
Chaskha wrote:
Tue 27 Aug 2019 2:28 PM
You guys need to convey your opinions with less aggro and not making it like the whole world (or staff) hate you.
Damn, it's a good point (maybe) but the way it's written, it's so hard to not just ignore it.

You may be right Chas...
But over the years... Of almost 20 different Animist nerfs, I find it difficult to be polite.
OR use restraint..
I have tried both in the past, neither has worked .. So, WTF ..

Simply put, the way to Nerf Hibernia, is to Nerf the Animist..
Albs and mids Now have "Easy Mode " against us when taking our keeps..

All the GMs have to do .. Look at how many CKs were taken (defended) by which realm to determine which current realm is overpowered.
And, IMHO , the last 2 animist nerfs has done nothing but to augment that overpowered realm ..

Is this REALLY what the GMs want ??
Maybe ..
Wed 28 Aug 2019 6:25 AM by Chaskha
Aminita wrote:
Tue 27 Aug 2019 7:40 PM
Chaskha wrote:
Tue 27 Aug 2019 2:28 PM
You guys need to convey your opinions with less aggro and not making it like the whole world (or staff) hate you.
Damn, it's a good point (maybe) but the way it's written, it's so hard to not just ignore it.

You may be right Chas...
But over the years... Of almost 20 different Animist nerfs, I find it difficult to be polite.
OR use restraint..
I have tried both in the past, neither has worked .. So, WTF ..

Simply put, the way to Nerf Hibernia, is to Nerf the Animist..
Albs and mids Now have "Easy Mode " against us when taking our keeps..

All the GMs have to do .. Look at how many CKs were taken (defended) by which realm to determine which current realm is overpowered.
And, IMHO , the last 2 animist nerfs has done nothing but to augment that overpowered realm ..

Is this REALLY what the GMs want ??
Maybe ..
I get your frustration but no reason to become paranoid (the staff is fully neutral to the realms, think about it. It's just that tweaking non mirror factions is a nightmare.)
Fixes and changes have sometimes unforeseen consequences and it's hard to just go back without a proper solution and sometimes, the proper solution provoke a new issue and so on ...

Now you gotta choose, a staff who try changes and try continually to improve, like they do - or a staff who does nothing and keep things in a prestine 1.65 state.
I choose the phoenix team and animist is my favorite class (I'm slightly more a pve player than a rvr one although I reckon RvR is the ultimate thrill), I am very frustrated with the changes on the class but still, I support the actions of the staff. Better people trying to move things in a better direction and screw up sometimes than people not wanting to change anything.
I have faith that they try to find a solution for the animist class that would be more balanced between players fun and not being OP.
You're right though, the current state of the class is not as fun as it should be.
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