Merc vs Infiltrator - Phoenix Freeshard

Hello everyone. Old DAoC player(quit back in 2003-2004).

I'm interested in knowing how Mercenaries gamplay experience in RvR differs from an infiltrator?
One thing I'm super curious about is what do you gain with the Merc from trading in an infiltrator's stealth?
Also, how easy/hard is it to beat an assassin class if I encountered one 1vs 1 in emain?

Thanks for your input. Cheers guys!!

Mon 4 Mar 2019 1:01 PM by djegu

well do you want solo or in grp ?

Regarding 1vs1 vs assassin doesn’t differ from the time you played (2004) if you get perfed, chances are : you gonna die. If not it’s entirely depend on your class and if the assassin purge is up, the downside is vanish, if you win, they’ll vanish like a chicken (also a hell lot of adds can happen mainly due to the task system).
People here complain a lot about how assassin are overturned on Phoenix, but most of them only rerolled one for thid, so they only complain about the tip of the iceberg (aka when they die or they get vanished)
Assassin are sneaky bastard by essence but it’s still one of the strongest 1vs1 class like it was designed and like it was back in 2004/5.

Mon 4 Mar 2019 1:13 PM by Luluko

merc is just faceroll easy with the /switch function they can easiely use a shield for 9sec slam then do 3-4 styles if the target hasnt purged so its pretty much like a reaver just with more consistent dps even if they just anytime + dt, the funny thing is they would still kill most people even if slam only lasted 6seconds. Well infi just has his afterevade easymode 9sec stun in thrust but at least if you purge that you also purge some poisons usually, despite that they have vanish tho if you wanna solo its certainly infi. Merc is only fun with a speed class or near some keeps really.

Mon 4 Mar 2019 1:53 PM by krumr

Luluko wrote: ↑
Mon 4 Mar 2019 1:13 PM
merc is just faceroll easy with the /switch function they can easiely use a shield for 9sec slam then do 3-4 styles if the target hasnt purged so its pretty much like a reaver just with more consistent dps even if they just anytime + dt, the funny thing is they would still kill most people even if slam only lasted 6seconds. Well infi just has his afterevade easymode 9sec stun in thrust but at least if you purge that you also purge some poisons usually, despite that they have vanish tho if you wanna solo its certainly infi. Merc is only fun with a speed class or near some keeps really.

I thought the /switch command could be used to swap mh and oh weapons as an infiltrator too, to reapply poison that is. Isn't that the case?

Mon 4 Mar 2019 4:17 PM by Luluko

krumr wrote: ↑
Mon 4 Mar 2019 1:53 PM
Luluko wrote: ↑
Mon 4 Mar 2019 1:13 PM
merc is just faceroll easy with the /switch function they can easiely use a shield for 9sec slam then do 3-4 styles if the target hasnt purged so its pretty much like a reaver just with more consistent dps even if they just anytime + dt, the funny thing is they would still kill most people even if slam only lasted 6seconds. Well infi just has his afterevade easymode 9sec stun in thrust but at least if you purge that you also purge some poisons usually, despite that they have vanish tho if you wanna solo its certainly infi. Merc is only fun with a speed class or near some keeps really.

I thought the /switch command could be used to swap mh and oh weapons as an infiltrator too, to reapply poison that is. Isn't that the case?

I didnt say they couldnt sure you can do that on any assassin but I dont really see much need when you already have 3 weapons equiped often thats already enough to apply all important poisons. Merc on the other hand would need to drag and drop arround inventory which would be to tedious everytime you wanna slam something and in grp fights thats usually more often than you would switch poisons on an assassin so mercs/bms benefit more from that command.

Tue 5 Mar 2019 5:04 AM by Stimmed

If an assassin is only using basically 3 poison applications per fight he is gimping him self so much. You want to swap in poison weapons as much as possible not just say ok hes got a dot on him disease and enervating thats enough.

You cant really compare the two classes . Merc is insanely good in groups and can solo but will get zerged a ton. Infil will never get groups for rvr its all about the solo for them. Mercs pure meele dps will crap all over an infiltrators. Infiltrator swapping poisons every hit could get close though.

Tue 5 Mar 2019 7:16 AM by Cadebrennus

(Rogue physical melee + Envenom) > (Tank physical melee)

Envenom is the deciding factor here.

Tue 5 Mar 2019 8:01 AM by jelzinga_EU

Merc is a lot stronger when more enemies come join in. You have better armour, dirty tricks (which seems PBAoE here and not only a weapon-proc?) more hp. With that said, a visible without speed might not be the best pick to solo on.

One is a grouping character (mercenary) for visibles, the infiltrator groups with other infils, scouts and minstrels. Up to you what you like - both can be enjoyable!