can you explain this shit?
chryso wrote: ↑Mon 30 Dec 2019 2:25 PMAs soon as the 8-mans stop killing small man groups I will listen to your complaints.
I agree with everything you said.Sepplord wrote: ↑Sat 4 Jan 2020 11:55 AMchryso wrote: ↑Mon 30 Dec 2019 2:25 PMAs soon as the 8-mans stop killing small man groups I will listen to your complaints.
yeah it's quite ridicolous the attitude SOME 8-mans have...
noone can acces their outerkeep docks because an enemy 8man is blocking it. They finally get into a fight with another group and because they are fighting directly on the highway that grtoup just blocked for ten minutes they get get added.
And at that point your realms 8man pulls off, stops fighting, complains about "fair fights" and lets the enemy group shred another bulk of solo-randoms because somehow that's the fair thing to do
Most 8mans aren't intrested in fairfights, they are intrested in RP-farming. And with their "stop fighting so the other 8man can continue killing solos/randoms"-mentality they found a way within the ruleset to lure in even more fodder. Just taking turns cruising the three realms portkeeps/docks doing that allday long. Can't tell me there is a single "fair" 8vs8 even possible at these high traffic positions. If you are there, you aren't looking for a long and intense 8vs8.
pollojack wrote: ↑Mon 6 Jan 2020 2:29 AMThe only way to encourage 8 mans to respect solos is to add 8 mans when they are in 8v8. With no opposition they become bullys of the frontier and need a smack to teach them some respect.
I have taken to slow poisoning druids/bard/minsts when I see them trying to kite. That or hitting their casters with my hunter from afar, if they chase to cast, I run so they aren't doing their job.
sugaree wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 12:51 AMpollojack wrote: ↑Mon 6 Jan 2020 2:29 AMThe only way to encourage 8 mans to respect solos is to add 8 mans when they are in 8v8. With no opposition they become bullys of the frontier and need a smack to teach them some respect.
I have taken to slow poisoning druids/bard/minsts when I see them trying to kite. That or hitting their casters with my hunter from afar, if they chase to cast, I run so they aren't doing their job.
I'm not seeing how adding on fights is going to get you respect. Then again, I got my primary education out of a box of Froot Loops, so maybe I'm missing something here?
pollojack wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 1:46 AMsugaree wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 12:51 AMpollojack wrote: ↑Mon 6 Jan 2020 2:29 AMThe only way to encourage 8 mans to respect solos is to add 8 mans when they are in 8v8. With no opposition they become bullys of the frontier and need a smack to teach them some respect.
I have taken to slow poisoning druids/bard/minsts when I see them trying to kite. That or hitting their casters with my hunter from afar, if they chase to cast, I run so they aren't doing their job.
I'm not seeing how adding on fights is going to get you respect. Then again, I got my primary education out of a box of Froot Loops, so maybe I'm missing something here?
It teaches them that getting added sucks. Enough "good" 8v8s ruined and they may cave to not add. This is my backup plan because doing nothing and observing literally did nothing as I would get jumped even if they saw me jump a Ranger that actually was adding.
ThisForlornhope wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 2:25 AMpollojack wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 1:46 AMsugaree wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 12:51 AMI'm not seeing how adding on fights is going to get you respect. Then again, I got my primary education out of a box of Froot Loops, so maybe I'm missing something here?
It teaches them that getting added sucks. Enough "good" 8v8s ruined and they may cave to not add. This is my backup plan because doing nothing and observing literally did nothing as I would get jumped even if they saw me jump a Ranger that actually was adding.
Unless you're part of their little 8v8 circle jerk they will literally add anything, they don't care. They have some sort of warped morality that lets them justify pulling off a fight and letting their realm mates die while simultaneously adding anything they want. Or endlessly farm docks and do the exact same things. If added them wasn't an instant death sentence I would do it every time.
Forlornhope wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 2:25 AMpollojack wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 1:46 AMsugaree wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 12:51 AMI'm not seeing how adding on fights is going to get you respect. Then again, I got my primary education out of a box of Froot Loops, so maybe I'm missing something here?
It teaches them that getting added sucks. Enough "good" 8v8s ruined and they may cave to not add. This is my backup plan because doing nothing and observing literally did nothing as I would get jumped even if they saw me jump a Ranger that actually was adding.
Unless you're part of their little 8v8 circle jerk they will literally add anything, they don't care. They have some sort of warped morality that lets them justify pulling off a fight and letting their realm mates die while simultaneously adding anything they want. Or endlessly farm docks and do the exact same things. If added them wasn't an instant death sentence I would do it every time.
pollojack wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 1:14 PMForlornhope wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 2:25 AMpollojack wrote: ↑Tue 7 Jan 2020 1:46 AMIt teaches them that getting added sucks. Enough "good" 8v8s ruined and they may cave to not add. This is my backup plan because doing nothing and observing literally did nothing as I would get jumped even if they saw me jump a Ranger that actually was adding.
Unless you're part of their little 8v8 circle jerk they will literally add anything, they don't care. They have some sort of warped morality that lets them justify pulling off a fight and letting their realm mates die while simultaneously adding anything they want. Or endlessly farm docks and do the exact same things. If added them wasn't an instant death sentence I would do it every time.
Then at worst, adding 8v8s is getting even.
Highfather17 wrote: ↑Sat 4 Jan 2020 4:02 PMI agree with everything you said.Sepplord wrote: ↑Sat 4 Jan 2020 11:55 AMchryso wrote: ↑Mon 30 Dec 2019 2:25 PMAs soon as the 8-mans stop killing small man groups I will listen to your complaints.
yeah it's quite ridicolous the attitude SOME 8-mans have...
noone can acces their outerkeep docks because an enemy 8man is blocking it. They finally get into a fight with another group and because they are fighting directly on the highway that grtoup just blocked for ten minutes they get get added.
And at that point your realms 8man pulls off, stops fighting, complains about "fair fights" and lets the enemy group shred another bulk of solo-randoms because somehow that's the fair thing to do
Most 8mans aren't intrested in fairfights, they are intrested in RP-farming. And with their "stop fighting so the other 8man can continue killing solos/randoms"-mentality they found a way within the ruleset to lure in even more fodder. Just taking turns cruising the three realms portkeeps/docks doing that allday long. Can't tell me there is a single "fair" 8vs8 even possible at these high traffic positions. If you are there, you aren't looking for a long and intense 8vs8.
In the last two weeks and I've had exactly 1 alb 8 man respect my 1v1 fights.
Like ok, I guess I'll start adding on you guys too then. And I'm a great fucking adder. I won't look to kill one guy, I'll snare poison all your tanks and interrupt your support in a heartbeat. And if you are dumb enough to attack me I'll just vanish thereby wasting more of your time.
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