@everyone that says solos go to solo zones............

To all the shity FG and adders that always tell soloers to go to the solo zone are complete trash... you know what happens when we go there?

You come role us with your small mans and FG's pretty shity argument.

TLDR: I died in a RvR zone.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:37 AM by Sepplord

so what?

release and port back there...

QQ you lost 10 seconds

Even porting bledmeer and crossing the bridge takes longer than getting back into the solozone

Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:47 AM by Wilfu

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:37 AM
so what?

release and port back there...

QQ you lost 10 seconds

Even porting bledmeer and crossing the bridge takes longer than getting back into the solozone

Cool comment bro

Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:48 AM by Sepplord

Wilfu wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:47 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:37 AM
so what?

release and port back there...

QQ you lost 10 seconds

Even porting bledmeer and crossing the bridge takes longer than getting back into the solozone

Cool comment bro

You right, but i don't believe you are sincere.
Congratz on adding nothing at all though

Tue 28 Apr 2020 7:06 AM by Noashakra

What do you expect, it's alaways like this in the solo zones. People always go for the easy rps.
"Do as I say, not as I do"

Tue 28 Apr 2020 9:26 AM by chewchew

have you tried going to the solo zones?

Tue 28 Apr 2020 10:46 AM by Freudinio

Yeah, it's hilarious how the "8man" guilds roam around the solo / small man porters 24/7.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 10:46 AM by Nardiam

where's solo zone i looking for that part but never find xD

Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:24 PM by joshisanonymous

I'm confused. I pass through the solo zones to port many times per day at all sorts of hours. I've encountered maybe 5 people there over the course of several months and a total of one time got ran over by a full group there. Yesterday was the first time I ever saw the solo zones being used to any significant degree and it seemed to be some lame arranged duels or something. I'm not sure that's what was envisioned for solo zones, and I'm not surprised if seeing Trellebourg spam every 10 seconds attracted some full groups to come through and roll everyone.

I'm not saying it's not annoying to get run over by full groups when solo, but I don't think the solo zones were meant to stop this from happening. It's still an RvR game at the end of the day.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:26 PM by protege

Need hasteners at solo zones btw

Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:41 PM by thirian24

joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:24 PM
I'm confused. I pass through the solo zones to port many times per day at all sorts of hours. I've encountered maybe 5 people there over the course of several months and a total of one time got ran over by a full group there. Yesterday was the first time I ever saw the solo zones being used to any significant degree and it seemed to be some lame arranged duels or something. I'm not sure that's what was envisioned for solo zones, and I'm not surprised if seeing Trellebourg spam every 10 seconds attracted some full groups to come through and roll everyone.

I'm not saying it's not annoying to get run over by full groups when solo, but I don't think the solo zones were meant to stop this from happening. It's still an RvR game at the end of the day.

Is that what you seen?

Or maybe you seen the only solo community left, respecting fights while trying not to get ran over by a bunch of mouth breathing retards.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:49 PM by Riac

it needs to not say the name of the solo zone. it should just say emain or w/e in the kill spam.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:10 PM by joshisanonymous

thirian24 wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:41 PM
joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:24 PM
I'm confused. I pass through the solo zones to port many times per day at all sorts of hours. I've encountered maybe 5 people there over the course of several months and a total of one time got ran over by a full group there. Yesterday was the first time I ever saw the solo zones being used to any significant degree and it seemed to be some lame arranged duels or something. I'm not sure that's what was envisioned for solo zones, and I'm not surprised if seeing Trellebourg spam every 10 seconds attracted some full groups to come through and roll everyone.

I'm not saying it's not annoying to get run over by full groups when solo, but I don't think the solo zones were meant to stop this from happening. It's still an RvR game at the end of the day.

Is that what you seen?

Or maybe you seen the only solo community left, respecting fights while trying not to get ran over by a bunch of mouth breathing retards.

Yup, that's what I saw: some lame ass arranged duels.

Getting all upset because you got run over when solo by larger numbers of "mouth breathing retards" sounds like the response from people who don't know that they're playing an RvR game. Yes, it's annoying, but if you're really into the solo game, you know that it's gonna happen because this isn't an arena game. Accusing people of being "mouth breathing retards" is just as bad as the 8mans who get epically upset whenever anyone adds their perfectly arranged fights to the point that they'd rather work with the enemy realms against their own realmmmates.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 11:40 PM by thirian24

Well you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Which doesn't surprise me a bit.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 6:16 AM by Noashakra

No surprise you play SM and BD...
I am not a big fan of arranged duels but once in a while for fun why not?
The point was : The solo went to the solo zone and they got ganked because people are lame and want easy RPs
Ironic because all the people here are telling us "if you want to solo go to the solo zone"

Wed 29 Apr 2020 7:42 AM by Koros

Phoenix PvP is basically gray gankers, addon's and smalls people camping exp spots.

I don't know if its my age, but I don't see the point in playing a PvP game if the only thing you want is easy rp's. Why not get into some "fun" fights? No competitive bone in your body and you want everything the easy way? Why play a pvp game in the first place? Just trolls? Awesome, then all these same "Trolls" wonder why PvP games are pretty much dead on arrival...

Keep telling people to leave, then those of you who act like this won't have anyone else to play with and might actually have to fight someone that can fight back once in a while, at which point you will quit and look for another easy road to travel elsewhere. Meanwhile the genre and game type we all love, PvP will be restricted to arena shooters and BR games.

/golf clap.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 8:39 AM by Patron

On a good Freeshard, every playstyle would be possible, more or less. And arranged duells are not allowed.

I would like it, to get some kind of arena mode, but ofc, with rp / bp reduction, because lower risk.
With waitingqueue and matchmaking in relation to RR.

But ofc, solo´should get rewarded more in tasks, because higher risk then in group.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 9:08 AM by inoeth

Patron wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 8:39 AM
On a good Freeshard, every playstyle would be possible, more or less. And arranged duells are not allowed.

I would like it, to get some kind of arena mode, but ofc, with rp / bp reduction, because lower risk.
With waitingqueue and matchmaking in relation to RR.

But ofc, solo´should get rewarded more in tasks, because higher risk then in group.

i don care really much about the rp
i rahter have no add and get a clear fight... well at least not 100000 add, from time to time 2vsMe is also fun

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:00 PM by joshisanonymous

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 6:16 AM
No surprise you play SM and BD...
I am not a big fan of arranged duels but once in a while for fun why not?
The point was : The solo went to the solo zone and they got ganked because people are lame and want easy RPs
Ironic because all the people here are telling us "if you want to solo go to the solo zone"

Ah yes, the common refrain of "you play X classes, so nothing you say is legitimate." I spend 95% of my time running solo as a summoning spec SM, but what do I know about playing solo.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:01 PM by Riac

while the first line is certainly a jab at you, it doesnt not detract from the validity of his next three lines.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:09 PM by joshisanonymous

Patron wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 8:39 AM
But ofc, solo´should get rewarded more in tasks, because higher risk then in group.

I think you're 100% correct in this approach. If there really is a lack of active soloers, the solution isn't to bitch at anyone who decides to roll soloers until they start "respecting" 1v1. In other words, you don't solve that issue by taking the risk out of the playstyle, you solve it by offering better rewards for a higher risk style of play. It's done for 8v8 for some reason, so I don't see why not for solo.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:13 PM by Riac

joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:09 PM
Patron wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 8:39 AM
But ofc, solo´should get rewarded more in tasks, because higher risk then in group.

I think you're 100% correct in this approach. If there really is a lack of active soloers, the solution isn't to bitch at anyone who decides to roll soloers until they start "respecting" 1v1. In other words, you don't solve that issue by taking the risk out of the playstyle, you solve it by offering better rewards for a higher risk style of play. It's done for 8v8 for some reason, so I don't see why not for solo.

after a certain point the rps become irrelevant and the incentive is worthless. ppl dont solo for the RPs, they solo because they like the play style and you get rps as a result of being good at it (a lot of rps).
so yea, bitching does help. believe it or not, ppl respond to being shamed lol.
i do the same to 8 mans running around docks farming solos when there are no other 8 mans even in the zone. it hurts their elite 8 man egos getting put on blast in the region chat.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:22 PM by joshisanonymous

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:13 PM
joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:09 PM
I think you're 100% correct in this approach. If there really is a lack of active soloers, the solution isn't to bitch at anyone who decides to roll soloers until they start "respecting" 1v1. In other words, you don't solve that issue by taking the risk out of the playstyle, you solve it by offering better rewards for a higher risk style of play. It's done for 8v8 for some reason, so I don't see why not for solo.

after a certain point the rps become irrelevant and the incentive is worthless. ppl dont solo for the RPs, they solo because they like the play style and you get rps as a result of being good at it (a lot of rps).
so yea, bitching does help. believe it or not, ppl respond to being shamed lol.
i do the same to 8 mans running around docks farming solos when there are no other 8 mans even in the zone. it hurts their elite 8 man egos getting put on blast in the region chat.

The playstyle is high risk, though, and being good at it means you're good at knowing how to deal with that high risk. If it were low risk (e.g., if everyone just left you alone to have a perfectly clean 1v1 fight), then to me, it would hardly be more exciting than zerging.

Of course others are going to feel different, and even if I think arranged fights are lame, feel free to go for it, but please stop trying to turn an RvR game into an arena game. RvR is dynamic, shit happens, that's part of what makes it exciting.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:38 PM by Riac

its no more fun than zerging???? where you just press one button before the person dies???? do you know how hard a 1v1 fight is against a person that knows their class? there all sorts of mind games that go into. you have to know their class as well as yours and you must know what abils they are using as well as what you need to do to counter that abil they just use. you must also be familiar with procs and their animations as well as what that means for you in terms of threat that is represents. all of this while having to worry about some retard r3 who doesnt know his garrote button from his asshole.
no more fun than zerging lol what a noob ass comment.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:49 PM by Sepplord

Riac wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:13 PM
they solo because they like the play style

A huge part of the playstyle in daoc is getting ran over by bigger numbers though....and the constant whining about that doesn't indicate that the soloers really like that.

People recommend to go to the solo-zone if you want to solo, because you "could" have serious benefits if "the soloers" would actually go there, compared to anywhere else:

a) less being rolled over. Yes, the occasional smallmen or fullgrp will still go there and farm you. Will it happen as much as around the docks or another hotspot? No it won't.

b) you can port to the different solo zones constantly. A group constantly cruises by because they read your killspam with your zone? Port to alb or hibernia solozone and keep going there.

c) you still got killed? Buff up and take the instant port back into the solozone. It is even faster than getting to your own portkeeps bridge or whatever other spot "Soloers" seem to

d) your enemy can ALSO immediatly port to where THEY might have gotten killed.

Compare:
midVSalb 1vs1 got added at bledmeer bridge. To get back to the same situation the alb has to port beno, reach the docks (without getting zerged again), sit in a boat for 2minutes, and THEN you can start the next duell on the highway. Chances of it being iterrupted: HIGH

midVSalb 1vs1 got added in solozone. To get back into the same situation the alb has to port into the solozone. The end.

The reason many "Soloers" don't use the Solozones, is the same reason why many 8man groups don't roam far away places. Because you fucking love to kill people that are not there to fight you. You don't want to miss out on random-noob XY that is just boating somewhere looking to tag a task. And that's completely fine.

Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:57 PM by Riac

not it, but there is something to be said about an organic fight being much more fun than a setup duel. the set up duels are very lack luster after 1 or 2, it misses out on the thrill of the hunt (free kills are not what gives you the rush and i no longer need the rps). i like to always use the example of that first even zone. the volcanus one with all the little islands and all the bridges between them. that was some of the most fun ive ever had on this serer, and it was only open for like 2-3 hours. there were just a shitload of bridges to corral ppl into a bit of a bottle neck so you wouldnt be looking fruitlessly and yet it was big enough for everyone to spread out and not be all over each others toes. if we had a solo zone like that it would be grade A, outstanding.
the solo zone in its current form is dogshit. its the size of a small keep, so you cant really do anything in there besides duel. i think if they but that volc map back in ppl would just play there instead of zerging keeps, everyone knows that shit sucks and yet ppl do it anyways lol.

also, what is that spacing in your post? i understand double space, but wtf is that??

Wed 29 Apr 2020 4:13 PM by Noashakra

joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:00 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 6:16 AM
No surprise you play SM and BD...
I am not a big fan of arranged duels but once in a while for fun why not?
The point was : The solo went to the solo zone and they got ganked because people are lame and want easy RPs
Ironic because all the people here are telling us "if you want to solo go to the solo zone"

Ah yes, the common refrain of "you play X classes, so nothing you say is legitimate." I spend 95% of my time running solo as a summoning spec SM, but what do I know about playing solo.

Drain Drain Drain - pet dies - QC pet - Drain Drain Drain - Oh my pet died ? - MOC Drain Drain Drain
So yeah I am sorry but your opinion as a solo man, I don't really care

Wed 29 Apr 2020 4:22 PM by ColdHands

Noashakra wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 4:13 PM
joshisanonymous wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 2:00 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Wed 29 Apr 2020 6:16 AM
No surprise you play SM and BD...
I am not a big fan of arranged duels but once in a while for fun why not?
The point was : The solo went to the solo zone and they got ganked because people are lame and want easy RPs
Ironic because all the people here are telling us "if you want to solo go to the solo zone"

Ah yes, the common refrain of "you play X classes, so nothing you say is legitimate." I spend 95% of my time running solo as a summoning spec SM, but what do I know about playing solo.

Drain Drain Drain - pet dies - QC pet - Drain Drain Drain - Oh my pet died ? - MOC Drain Drain Drain
So yeah I am sorry but your opinion as a solo man, I don't really care

Summon SM does not get lifetap. they only have baseline nuke and pet buffs. They could split spec for it but need to go to at least 37 dark imo for LT to be worthwhile, and need to spec 19 sup to demez pet. So assuming they want the 60% pet snare proc and demez then they can only get the level 30 lifetap, which if played well could be effective but its not an I win button.

Thu 30 Apr 2020 1:12 AM by Wilfu

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:48 AM
Wilfu wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:47 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:37 AM
so what?

release and port back there...

QQ you lost 10 seconds

Even porting bledmeer and crossing the bridge takes longer than getting back into the solozone

Cool comment bro

You right, but i don't believe you are sincere.
Congratz on adding nothing at all though

Says the man who blamed the victim, nothing you said added to the conversation which was the whole point of my sarcastic comment.

Thu 30 Apr 2020 6:21 AM by Sepplord

Wilfu wrote: ↑
Thu 30 Apr 2020 1:12 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:48 AM
Wilfu wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:47 AM
Cool comment bro

You right, but i don't believe you are sincere.
Congratz on adding nothing at all though
Says the man who blamed the victim, nothing you said added to the conversation which was the whole point of my sarcastic comment.

Could you quote a "blame" please?
I don't see any blame. Well besides yours now...
You surely seem to like buzzwords. What next? Solo lives matter?