Whats a good RVR berserker spec?

Started 23 Jul 2019
by Roto23
in Midgard
Whats a good RVR berserker spec?
Tue 23 Jul 2019 12:21 PM by Roto23
Would 50 LA, 37 Hammer, rest parry work? Or do I need points into Axe to raise my damage when I use LA styles?
Tue 23 Jul 2019 12:44 PM by ExcretusMaximus
39 Sword, 39 Hammer, 50 LA.

Learn the armor vulnerability tables and swap to whichever damage type is most advantageous.

Use the TG Str/Con debuff sword, and a crafted hammer.

Why on Earth do you want 44 Parry?
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:06 PM by Roto23
ExcretusMaximus wrote:
Tue 23 Jul 2019 12:44 PM
39 Sword, 39 Hammer, 50 LA.

Learn the armor vulnerability tables and swap to whichever damage type is most advantageous.

Use the TG Str/Con debuff sword, and a crafted hammer.

Why on Earth do you want 44 Parry?

I haven't even made a Zerker yet, but when my friends arn't on I see myself doing some solo fights, so parry would help.
When switching for armor damage types, do you switch both weapons or just main hand?
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:13 PM by ExcretusMaximus
Roto23 wrote:
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:06 PM
When switching for armor damage types, do you switch both weapons or just main hand?


Left hand will always be an axe, no way around that.
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:34 PM by Roto23
ExcretusMaximus wrote:
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:13 PM
Roto23 wrote:
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:06 PM
When switching for armor damage types, do you switch both weapons or just main hand?


Left hand will always be an axe, no way around that.

thanks. I think I read left hand should be a fast weapon and then main hand will have a slow weapon,. correct?
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:56 PM by vxr
Roto23 wrote:
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:34 PM
ExcretusMaximus wrote:
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:13 PM
Roto23 wrote:
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:06 PM
When switching for armor damage types, do you switch both weapons or just main hand?


Left hand will always be an axe, no way around that.

thanks. I think I read left hand should be a fast weapon and then main hand will have a slow weapon,. correct?

I could be wrong, so wait for confirmation. AFAIK that is the case for hib/alb CD/DW, but not necessarily the case for mids because you swing OH every time.
Tue 23 Jul 2019 4:09 PM by Mura
That just strengthens the case for slow MH fast OH.

The reasoning behind this is when you swing both hands your swing delay is the average of your weapon speeds.

To maximize alpha strike damage, you want as slow of a MH as you can get.

To maximize your dps you also want to get your swing speed down to 1.5s.

Play around with a swing speed calculator (on mobile, don't have my bookmarks to share a link atm) and figure out what speed you can use self buffed and raid buffed and craft/buy weapons to cap speed in both situations.
Tue 23 Jul 2019 4:14 PM by Mavella
If you don't have celerity you'll do more DPS with a slow mainhand and fast offhand

If you do have celerity you want to use as slow an offhand as possible while celerity is running. I think even troll berserker will cap swing speed with 4.0 or 4.2 offhand with yellow/red celerity.
Tue 23 Jul 2019 5:19 PM by ExcretusMaximus
Left Axe works in the following manor:
Damage is based on the speed of the mainhand.
Speed is based on the average of the mianhand and offhand.

People say to go slow/slow when you know you'll have celerity, but you never know you'll have celerity. The cast range on celerity is 1,000 units, and a Healer being that close is often a death sentence. Assume you will never have it and base your choices of weapon speed on that.

Use this site to calculate swing speed.
Tue 23 Jul 2019 6:48 PM by Mavella
So make a weapon less temp and keep a 2.4OH and 4.0OH and swap based on whether celerity is up or not!
Thu 25 Jul 2019 12:16 PM by Roto23
Anyone know where armor resistance tables are?
Thu 25 Jul 2019 12:48 PM by Cadebrennus
Roto23 wrote:
Thu 25 Jul 2019 12:16 PM
Anyone know where armor resistance tables are?

https://bloodandwine.shivtr.com/forum_threads/3112553
Thu 25 Jul 2019 6:58 PM by Roto23
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu 25 Jul 2019 12:48 PM
Roto23 wrote:
Thu 25 Jul 2019 12:16 PM
Anyone know where armor resistance tables are?

https://bloodandwine.shivtr.com/forum_threads/3112553

Thanks Cadebrennus
Thu 25 Jul 2019 7:45 PM by Cadebrennus
Roto23 wrote:
Thu 25 Jul 2019 6:58 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu 25 Jul 2019 12:48 PM
Roto23 wrote:
Thu 25 Jul 2019 12:16 PM
Anyone know where armor resistance tables are?

https://bloodandwine.shivtr.com/forum_threads/3112553

Thanks Cadebrennus

My pleasure. Feel free to poke around in all of the guides there.

https://bloodandwine.shivtr.com/forums/2201948
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:14 PM by Kwall0311


50 hammer, 50 LA, 29 parry.
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:43 PM by Cadebrennus
Kwall0311 wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:14 PM


50 hammer, 50 LA, 29 parry.

I get the 50 LA, but why the 50 Hammer?
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:54 PM by Kwall0311
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:43 PM
Kwall0311 wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:14 PM


50 hammer, 50 LA, 29 parry.

I get the 50 LA, but why the 50 Hammer?

34% asd style is nice to have
Fri 26 Jul 2019 4:52 PM by Kaziera
Kwall0311 wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:54 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:43 PM
Kwall0311 wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:14 PM


50 hammer, 50 LA, 29 parry.

I get the 50 LA, but why the 50 Hammer?

34% asd style is nice to have

Less Important than hitting bards and bms as well as druids champs and heros on positive damage table
Fri 26 Jul 2019 5:27 PM by Kwall0311
Guess i should have mentioned my zerk is a solo zerk. Havent had much trouble with BMs or rangers so seems ok to me. But yeah might be good to have a slash backup. Havent tried it out.
Fri 26 Jul 2019 5:48 PM by Roto23
So i spoke to 2 top 10 RR zerkers in disc and they do not spec two damage types. One is a group zerker and the other does solo and group.
Sat 27 Jul 2019 9:38 AM by Cadebrennus
Kaziera wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 4:52 PM
Kwall0311 wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:54 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:43 PM
I get the 50 LA, but why the 50 Hammer?

34% asd style is nice to have

Less Important than hitting bards and bms as well as druids champs and heros on positive damage table

True but they're on a lower armor table than the slash vulnerable scale wearers, and with Slash being neutral to all of Alb. When I played my Merc on live I never had a problem with Thrust resistant Mid leather for the same reason. Tanks are on a higher damage table so it makes up for the negative IMO. However if you're trying to squeeze out every ounce of damage it does make sense.
Sat 27 Jul 2019 1:26 PM by Kaziera
Roto23 wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 5:48 PM
So i spoke to 2 top 10 RR zerkers in disc and they do not spec two damage types. One is a group zerker and the other does solo and group.

Realm rank means nothing. Are the in any good reputation 8man or solo guild? Do they really play well?

Because imo, if they dont spec 2 lines, they are wasting damage so they dont have to switch weapons.
Sat 27 Jul 2019 4:43 PM by Isavyr
Kaziera wrote:
Sat 27 Jul 2019 1:26 PM
Roto23 wrote:
Fri 26 Jul 2019 5:48 PM
So i spoke to 2 top 10 RR zerkers in disc and they do not spec two damage types. One is a group zerker and the other does solo and group.

Realm rank means nothing. Are the in any good reputation 8man or solo guild? Do they really play well?

Because imo, if they dont spec 2 lines, they are wasting damage so they dont have to switch weapons.

Which slash damage line is preferred? Axe or Sword?
Sat 27 Jul 2019 9:37 PM by ExcretusMaximus
Isavyr wrote:
Sat 27 Jul 2019 4:43 PM
Which slash damage line is preferred? Axe or Sword?


Sword for the TG str/con debuff 4.2 speed sword.
Sun 28 Jul 2019 12:45 PM by Kaziera
Also endodrain from summoners hall is good. Not sure if its left or mainhand axe though
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