Warrior RA's - Phoenix Freeshard

Mostly smallman, but will do 8 man as well. I'm starting to get a feel for which patch level we are at (hint: the one where savages got buffed after SI launch and all tank trains converted to Sav/Sav/Sav).

Think the Warrior RA progression is standard early on:

Tireless, LW, Det9

then this is where it seems to deviate from current LIve

Purge 3 (plz correct me here)
AoM 5

From this point I'm just dumping into MoPain, but I'm at 5 already and am wondering do I respec out of MoPain5 into Dashing Defence or Soldiers Barricade? People going IP? Neither DD3 or SB3 seem to be game changers?

Or to be honest and will say it before anyone else, just re-roll to Savage

Wed 20 Feb 2019 9:07 AM by Sepplord

if you ONLY want to go into the assisttrain, then rerolling seems to be a reasonable option. Warriors can go into the assisttrain, but they aren't really needed there and a warriors strength is his ability to protect his backline depending on inc.

Can't really help with RAs, was mostly coming here for advice too

Progression til 3L4 is clear, as you mentioned.
After that i am unsure myself.

Dashing defence (imo) sounds really good, but i am unsure how it really works. Is it as if i was guarding each groupmember individually? Aka i can block 3enemy attackers per groupmember or do all attackers onto my group get summarized and i only block3 in total? Or is it as if every attacker attacks me, i block with my own blockcapabilitties and the attacks that go through hit their original target? Many different possibilities heavily impacting the RAs strength.

Wed 20 Feb 2019 9:59 AM by dudis

Never played a warrior in this era of daoc, only really got started on Gareth (classic server), but here is what I would do.

LW+Tireless 1
Det 9
AOM 5
Dashing 2

AFAIK Dashing Defense basically puts Guard on all group members, meaning you can block an unlimited ammount of targets for everyone at the same time. Getting more than Rank 2 is probably uneccessary though.

Anyways, that's 5L4. Now just go for passives until you can afford Soldiers Barricade 4 or 5, then respec to the above + Soldiers Barricade.

Purge 2 or 3 can be good for emergencies but is a hefty investment for not that much benefit imo.

Thu 21 Feb 2019 4:09 PM by Afuldan

I went LW/Tireless, Purge 2, working on Det9 now. Being slammed is nasty without Purge.

5L4 i’m aiming to have AoM5, than Soldier’s Barricade. It seems most of my deaths come from caster trains, after being slammed. Even with Det7 and Stoicism casted stuns/mezzes hardly affect me.

Thu 21 Feb 2019 5:11 PM by jferrer7541

Hey Afuldan, its Pastelito! Im currently 2L8 and went LW, tireless, and have det 6. Planning on going to det 9 then AOM as i rarely get slammed. Most of the time im facing caster alb/hib groups and the casted dd's. If you get slammed and start getting casted on, the purge isnt going to help much, but the AOM will keep the dmg low enough to hopefully let your healer save you. Just my 2 cents anyway.

Thu 21 Feb 2019 5:23 PM by chryso

I am in the same conundrum. I am sitting at 4L1 and have LW, tireless, Det9 and several points that I have not decided to spend yet because i am torn between Purge and AOM.

Fri 22 Feb 2019 12:25 AM by Afuldan

jferrer7541 wrote: ↑
Thu 21 Feb 2019 5:11 PM
Hey Afuldan, its Pastelito! Im currently 2L8 and went LW, tireless, and have det 6. Planning on going to det 9 then AOM as i rarely get slammed. Most of the time im facing caster alb/hib groups and the casted dd's. If you get slammed and start getting casted on, the purge isnt going to help much, but the AOM will keep the dmg low enough to hopefully let your healer save you. Just my 2 cents anyway.

Hey man! Good run yesterday. True enough. I could get det9 and aom3 at my current rank. Kind of thinking of dumping MoPain after AoM5. I’m torn. The actives are so strong, but 49% crit chance in melee sounds stupidly fun as a troll warrior.

Fri 22 Feb 2019 5:51 AM by suicide19

It's all caster trains now from both sides, you gotta get AoM5. I'd buy it till you can afford Purge 3, respec into PUrge3 then dump points back into AoM till 5

The decision from there is SB3 or DD3 or just go MoPain to 5 then MoBlock to 5 which i guess depends on Solo vs. Smallman vs. 8 man.

I do so much 3-4 man where i'm more the dps then a utility so i'm going MoPain for now?

Fri 22 Feb 2019 2:14 PM by Afuldan

suicide19 wrote: ↑
Fri 22 Feb 2019 5:51 AM
It's all caster trains now from both sides, you gotta get AoM5. I'd buy it till you can afford Purge 3, respec into PUrge3 then dump points back into AoM till 5

The decision from there is SB3 or DD3 or just go MoPain to 5 then MoBlock to 5 which i guess depends on Solo vs. Smallman vs. 8 man.

I do so much 3-4 man where i'm more the dps then a utility so i'm going MoPain for now?

I was starting to think this. Pure passives.

Sun 24 Feb 2019 12:36 PM by Jaxx

After basic RA i think The Empty Mind lvl 1 is fine for 5pt, help you vs caster assist.

Tue 26 Feb 2019 9:45 PM by Hector

8v8 Priority:
LW 1, Tireless 1 > Det 9 > Purge 2 > DD 3 > Purge 3. This takes you to 5l9

Solo Priority:
LW1, Tiress 1 > Purge 3 > whatever you want. I would probably get moblock and some damage. Tbh det doesn't matter solo

Small man will be a combination of the above. If you want to play 8v8 I highly encourage the topmost progression

Thu 28 Feb 2019 10:18 AM by Schett

Make sure your swing speed is capped with 2H with haste+celerity before you spec above Mop2

Mon 18 Mar 2019 9:20 AM by makkator

isnt Purge 2 AND Det9 a bit over the top? 10 Points for Purging a CC that is only some seconds long due to Det9+ Stoicism

Mon 18 Mar 2019 10:36 AM by dudis

makkator wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 9:20 AM
isnt Purge 2 AND Det9 a bit over the top? 10 Points for Purging a CC that is only some seconds long due to Det9+ Stoicism

Purge is for Slam (not affected by det/stoi) and can be critical to protect a squishy (or kill one)

Mon 18 Mar 2019 6:16 PM by makkator

oh i didnt know it doesnt affect slam, ty !

Tue 19 Mar 2019 4:22 PM by kmark101

makkator wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 6:16 PM
oh i didnt know it doesnt affect slam, ty !

Yep, slam is your biggest enemy here... I don't remember ever dying to mezz/root or casted stun... it's always the slam that takes me out. More often lately I have the heretic thought to just ditch determination overall and spec the best purge!

Tue 19 Mar 2019 4:51 PM by makkator

kmark101 wrote: ↑
Tue 19 Mar 2019 4:22 PM
makkator wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 6:16 PM
oh i didnt know it doesnt affect slam, ty !

Yep, slam is your biggest enemy here... I don't remember ever dying to mezz/root or casted stun... it's always the slam that takes me out. More often lately I have the heretic thought to just ditch determination overall and spec the best purge!

does anyone have experience with ditching det9 ? it would free a lot of points

Wed 20 Mar 2019 8:45 AM by dudis

makkator wrote: ↑
Tue 19 Mar 2019 4:51 PM
kmark101 wrote: ↑
Tue 19 Mar 2019 4:22 PM
makkator wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 6:16 PM
oh i didnt know it doesnt affect slam, ty !

Yep, slam is your biggest enemy here... I don't remember ever dying to mezz/root or casted stun... it's always the slam that takes me out. More often lately I have the heretic thought to just ditch determination overall and spec the best purge!

does anyone have experience with ditching det9 ? it would free a lot of points

You would also spend a lot of time rooted and even mezzed if your healers are interrupted.

Purge 5 costs 30 points (Det 9 costs 22 points). Purge will clear one CC every 5 minutes (once per fight basically), Det 9 is always active and makes any casted CC trivial.

Det 9 is too good to give up, especially with the reduced cost on this server. Ditch purge if you really want to get rid of one of them, but i advice keeping both.