SB Temp - Best Possible

Started 10 Mar 2021
by bculpepper
in Midgard
What is the best possible SB temp given the available items. I am thinking..

TG Chest
TG Legs
TG Arms
Dragon Gloves
LT ROG Head
LT ROG Feet

AFAIK there is no mandatory jewelry as anything useful can be used from the bag (DA Charge, Legion Heal, 150 ablative).

1) Is there anything missing I should consider?
2) Is LT ROG armor better than PC ablative? Given LT can be resisted and ablative cannot maybe PC is better?

Just curious what others opinions are.
Wed 10 Mar 2021 2:32 PM by Kwall0311
The DQ debuff cloak could be useful at times.

Ive never actually seen anyone try a LT Suit. I imagine it could be good at times potentially vs archers ( since a proc would interrupt them )
Wed 10 Mar 2021 2:43 PM by keen
What proc do the dragon gloves have? There is a 1.5k dot juwel for feathers. That would be good if it's best possible.
Wed 10 Mar 2021 3:16 PM by bculpepper
keen wrote: What proc do the dragon gloves have? There is a 1.5k dot juwel for feathers. That would be good if it's best possible.

Dragon Gloves are another 150 feather ablative.

Jewel might be useful - have to think on that. Using it would mean no legion heal or DA charge and those are my go-to.
Wed 10 Mar 2021 4:25 PM by Hangel
LT proc is very low health 35 40 PF I think, and anyway if u are diseased is 50%... so better Ablative
Wed 10 Mar 2021 4:42 PM by bculpepper
Hangel wrote:
Wed 10 Mar 2021 4:25 PM
LT proc is very low health 35 40 PF I think, and anyway if u are diseased is 50%... so better Ablative

I don't think LT is affected by disease. Its not if I proc with a LT weapon so I assumed its not from an armor reactive.

The proc delves for 95 with a 60% return. I'm not good on the calculations but from some observation I want to say with resists I tend to see something like 88 proc and 58 return from weapons. could be off on that.

Maybe ROG LT isn't the way to go... just wondering if anyone has tried it.
Thu 11 Mar 2021 7:30 PM by Morghane
Disease has never affected LT. If it does on Phoenix it would be a major departure. Pretty sure it does not here either.
Fri 12 Mar 2021 6:26 AM by Kylethegreat
I run mp rog LT helm/feet and have seen them proc maybe 3times from rr4-rr6.
Fri 12 Mar 2021 8:59 AM by inoeth
i run a crafted vest with DA proc to begin with, switching TG in when DA proced.
i also got tg arms and legs
dq debuff you can put on a crafted in 2h slot or throwing weapon slot but be carefull it only works with 1x throwing weapon in slot, do not stack
for LA i use a crafted lvl 46 2.4 handaxe with dot proc, the dmg difference to a lvl 51 drop 2.4 is about 2-3 dmg
MH dragonmight
gloves i use a drop with dmg shield proc, not sure where that was from... maybe dragon?
i dont think it is actually worth looking for stuff that fits if you go for LT hands/shoes/head, just go for crafted and MHB
Fri 21 May 2021 3:59 AM by Sarkon
Which alchemy procs should go on your weapons? DoT on both? What about the DA proc, worth it? All ablative armor except for the TG vest? Thinking heart of legion for sure for the heal charge. Right now I have a bare bones template with capped resists, but looking to redo it so I can add some more tools.
Fri 21 May 2021 4:02 AM by gotwqqd
So much cheese changing armor pieces in the middle of a battle
Fri 21 May 2021 4:26 AM by easytoremember
If you're going to swap out armor don't uses pieces with Hits and CON -_-
Kwall0311 wrote:
Wed 10 Mar 2021 2:32 PM
The DQ debuff cloak could be useful at times.

Ive never actually seen anyone try a LT Suit. I imagine it could be good at times potentially vs archers ( since a proc would interrupt them )
It (lifetap armor) sucks. The difference in proc chance between feather and rog is only 3% however in comparison to feather armor proccing frequently the rogs are horribly rare to fire. It is especially unreliable against archery where with feather DD you safely expect a rupt or two within 5 hits.
I'm thinking it's caused by the same mechanic that bloats the value of high crit %'s, so that 3% base chance quickly turns into a much larger gap with each consecutive swing that sees no proc. Given the choice between rog 95 LT and feather 65 LT, go with feather.
Fri 21 May 2021 11:16 AM by inoeth
i also believe 65 lt procs return 100%? so the returns are more or less equal but the proc chance is alot higher on feather stuff than on rog
Mon 31 May 2021 7:03 AM by Noashakra
gotwqqd wrote:
Fri 21 May 2021 4:02 AM
So much cheese changing armor pieces in the middle of a battle

Yeah so much cheese, people trying to play the best way possible with their class, optimising their procs.
And then it's the assassins who are OP, not the players who are good.
Mon 31 May 2021 10:31 AM by Irkeno
gotwqqd wrote:
Fri 21 May 2021 4:02 AM
So much cheese changing armor pieces in the middle of a battle

Shift+right click is cheese? Wow
Mon 31 May 2021 3:08 PM by Sarkon
Sarkon wrote:
Fri 21 May 2021 3:59 AM
Which alchemy procs should go on your weapons? DoT on both? What about the DA proc, worth it? All ablative armor except for the TG vest? Thinking heart of legion for sure for the heal charge. Right now I have a bare bones template with capped resists, but looking to redo it so I can add some more tools.

Bump for advice...any feather must haves other than HoL? What about procs/reactives? I heard go all ablative due to disease.

Also my MH is sword with high LA, is there any advantage to axe styles over sword?
Mon 31 May 2021 3:45 PM by DJ2000
There is no benefit to post a List of stuff of which feather items/weapons they use.
Unless you can incorporate the right use of them into your playstyle, every list won't help you at all.

If you can manage weapon swaps, or even gear swaps, then it's up to you as to which or how many effects you want and how you can facilitate said effects during a fight.

That's the best part about building your Toon. Spec, Gear, Temp, Playstyle etc.
And it's gets better, as you grow into it.
Mon 31 May 2021 4:19 PM by Saroi
Sarkon wrote:
Mon 31 May 2021 3:08 PM
Sarkon wrote:
Fri 21 May 2021 3:59 AM
Which alchemy procs should go on your weapons? DoT on both? What about the DA proc, worth it? All ablative armor except for the TG vest? Thinking heart of legion for sure for the heal charge. Right now I have a bare bones template with capped resists, but looking to redo it so I can add some more tools.

Bump for advice...any feather must haves other than HoL? What about procs/reactives? I heard go all ablative due to disease.

Also my MH is sword with high LA, is there any advantage to axe styles over sword?

Axe is superior than sword. You can use Dragonmight(Dragonmerchant) as Main which has a Body dot proc combined with crafted LA with matter proc, they both stack. Axe is superior in styles.

Pillager gives you an anytimer ASR(Attack speed reduction) and with 39 in axe you get a 34% ASR Side.

There may be soon a style change, which would make you go cs since it will be superior to LA but axe will still be better cause of the Dragonmight dot proc.

Other than that you can use a dmg add proc vest. I never do that though because that is too much luck for me. I only have dmg add charge with my SB, no Legion heal because dmg add gives you so much dmg as SB it is must have.
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