Challenge mode is bugged

Started 28 Feb 2019
by Choom
in Midgard
Challenge Mode bugged ?
Iarnvidiurs Lair
I am going to cross post this to Mid/Support Center and PvE.

I have been using this place to Gear up my guild and to PL people. We have been running it multiple times a week. I know the drop rates and the drop quality. I have taken both one and two full groups through and 75 utility is not out of the question. I have run people through in my guild (Mordred) and multiple other guilds. Rampage now also farms this place as well.

Last night we decided to run it in challenge mode. We had 2FG. Other than the hits being higher with all of the mobs there was no significant change to the dungeon. We ran with a /bg and set a treasurer. The drops were awful, past the point of statistical probability. There were fewer drops and ALL drops were of lesser utility value. On challenge mode the fish boss dropped 3 40 utility items. Even the salvage gear was less frequent.
This was not the first time we noticed this. We also were farming TH using it for ROGs and for PL, until it got too crowded. The same issues occurred when we were Farming Yar. Drops in challenge were worse than drops in normal.

We then go back and run not in challenge. 1FG. The others left due to the crap drops. The very first item was an 81 utility necklace. And the hits kept coming. Filled two bags with decent to excellent utility rog items. (81 is not the highest we have seen, an 86 dropped earlier in the week). Almost twice the amount of salvage metal, drops were MUCH better and its faster overall to not in challenge.

To be very honest it did not mentally click with me until last night.

I do not recommend turning on Challenge mode at all.
Thu 28 Feb 2019 4:16 PM by florin
Funny - similar thing happened recently and Ive been doing challenge on reds with necro (solo with an afk).

As soon as I disable challenge, i got better drops, thought it was just RNG but ya challenge seems a waste.
Thu 28 Feb 2019 5:09 PM by Choom
Thank you for replying. I am confident challenge is bugged. I do not expect the team to fix it, but its more about getting the message out. Simply is zero reason to ever turn on challenge mode.
Thu 28 Feb 2019 5:26 PM by Zansobar
Did you post this on the bug site?
Thu 28 Feb 2019 5:29 PM by kmark101
fyi Challenge Mode only affects the number of ROG drops (obviously with challenge mode on, more ROG item drops), it has ZERO effect on the utility level of the items, which is ONLY defined by the mob's level (higher the level, more possible utility points)
Thu 28 Feb 2019 5:50 PM by Choom
You are correct. But FEWER items dropped overall.

Challenge mode = Fewer rogs and fewer salvae lesser overall utility
Normal more = More drops, more salvage, higher overall utility
Thu 28 Feb 2019 6:11 PM by sprinkle
WAAA PVE on RVR GAme I want more crappy rog dungeon drops that are not classic at all

go farm tg with your 2 groups
Thu 28 Feb 2019 7:15 PM by Choom
Hey Sprinkle you silly dumbass, are you templeted for RVR ? If you are not your an idiot. If you are are , how do you get your template pieces. Either way, your an idiot.

Shine on you stupid diamond.
Mon 4 Mar 2019 7:05 PM by kmark101
Choom wrote:
Thu 28 Feb 2019 5:50 PM
You are correct. But FEWER items dropped overall.

Challenge mode = Fewer rogs and fewer salvae lesser overall utility
Normal more = More drops, more salvage, higher overall utility

i think it was just bad luck/random there... challenge mode worked fine for me overall and I farmed lots for good ROGs. Btw it might be area specific? I always farmed in Trollheim and it was fine there, but could be different in other zone, like DF?
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