Best weapon for a SB - Phoenix Freeshard

Hi to all!

I was wondering about the best 1h sword to buy (with feathers) for a shadoblade, if there is one.

Thx!

Sat 9 Feb 2019 11:20 PM by Afuldan

TG SB specific sword. Forget the name. Think theres a dot proc.

Sun 10 Feb 2019 12:00 AM by Pedòr

Thanks!

But the dot proc doesn't overide(or something like that lol) the dot of the poison?

Sorry noob here ahah.

Sun 10 Feb 2019 12:02 AM by Afuldan

Afaik dots dont overwrite each other unless they share a damage type. Hmm. I don’t know what type the proc is.

Sun 10 Feb 2019 1:02 AM by Pedòr

Body, same with poison!

Sun 10 Feb 2019 1:22 AM by Afuldan

Ah, well than. Tuscar’s has a lifetap, but is slow. I’m not certain what other swords have. A debuff ir a DD would be your best bet, than.

Sun 10 Feb 2019 1:29 AM by Pedòr

There is the frozen blackhearted sword that have lifedrain too, and have 3.4 speed, i guess i'm going to buy that!

There is also the "skald" sword that have the str/con debuff, but i guess that i'm cover with poison for that too.

Thanks a lot for the help anyway!

Mon 11 Feb 2019 7:51 AM by inoeth

best SB weapon is dragon shadow sword it has str/con debuff

http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=6290

Mon 11 Feb 2019 12:33 PM by Pedòr

AAargh i thought that the str/con debuff was yet on poison, but i read now that thay change the poison from str / con to weapon stat / con debuff, so i think that now they don't override each others, right?
Or simply i have to not use that poison?

Wed 13 Feb 2019 9:31 AM by Calad

What about for the offhand?

Thu 14 Feb 2019 7:21 AM by Falken

Dragon-Shadow Sword 4.2 Main Hand then crafted 2.7 offhand left axe. The dragon-shadow sword has a str/con debuff which stacks with the weaponskill/con debuff enervating poison, this is the most ideal combo as has been previously discussed the dot proc overrides and the lifetap sword is just to fast imo. The only issue is the Dragon-Shadow sword has pretty bad utility, so you will need to make up for this in your template if you want to have a fully capped template. (i.e. 70+ utility feather items and 65+ ROGs with MP gloves+boots or more depending on ROGs).

Thu 21 Feb 2019 10:40 PM by Trello82

Go axe and get your perma haste with the 4.2 tuscar one

Fri 22 Feb 2019 9:15 AM by inoeth

Trello82 wrote: ↑
Thu 21 Feb 2019 10:40 PM
Go axe and get your perma haste with the 4.2 tuscar one

get pot buff with 17%..... there you have perma haste

Wed 27 Feb 2019 9:43 PM by Slithic

... and the Best 2handed weapon is ...

Dragonfury?

Sun 10 Mar 2019 6:38 PM by Naturedruid

Falken wrote: ↑
Thu 14 Feb 2019 7:21 AM
Dragon-Shadow Sword 4.2 Main Hand then crafted 2.7 offhand left axe. The dragon-shadow sword has a str/con debuff which stacks with the weaponskill/con debuff enervating poison, this is the most ideal combo as has been previously discussed the dot proc overrides and the lifetap sword is just to fast imo. The only issue is the Dragon-Shadow sword has pretty bad utility, so you will need to make up for this in your template if you want to have a fully capped template. (i.e. 70+ utility feather items and 65+ ROGs with MP gloves+boots or more depending on ROGs).

How in the hell are you supposed to cap stats with that sword? I have a bunch of 70+ rogs and also 60+ but there's no way I can cap everything even with using MP pieces with that low utility sword..

Sun 10 Mar 2019 8:33 PM by Falken

Naturedruid wrote: ↑
Sun 10 Mar 2019 6:38 PM
Falken wrote: ↑
Thu 14 Feb 2019 7:21 AM
Dragon-Shadow Sword 4.2 Main Hand then crafted 2.7 offhand left axe. The dragon-shadow sword has a str/con debuff which stacks with the weaponskill/con debuff enervating poison, this is the most ideal combo as has been previously discussed the dot proc overrides and the lifetap sword is just to fast imo. The only issue is the Dragon-Shadow sword has pretty bad utility, so you will need to make up for this in your template if you want to have a fully capped template. (i.e. 70+ utility feather items and 65+ ROGs with MP gloves+boots or more depending on ROGs).

How in the hell are you supposed to cap stats with that sword? I have a bunch of 70+ rogs and also 60+ but there's no way I can cap everything even with using MP pieces with that low utility sword..

Capped my SB with it only missing 3% matter resist and no MP helm/legs/offhand... DM me @Falken on discord I can message you the template.

Mon 11 Mar 2019 7:50 AM by Xunn

What about crafted offhand proc? From which patch the DOT proc conflicts with the poison?

Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:41 AM by Seosaidh

Think you need 80 Rog jewelry to be able to cap everything even with those crappy utility swords. I have capped everything on a weaponless template (mainland that is, still need crafted offhand atm, could probably change SC to accomodate TG offhand).

I have been contemplating switching over to a crafted sword. Don't know why, but 4.2 speed feels just a tad slow even with all the buffs. But that might be entirely my imagination playing tricks on me.

Anyone else feels the same? Crafted sword with proc over TG weapons?

As for offhand, I went with the weighted bearded axe because because I thought you always wanted slow mainland and fastest possible offhand. Is this true?

Mon 11 Mar 2019 9:23 AM by jelzinga_EU

Naturedruid wrote: ↑
Sun 10 Mar 2019 6:38 PM
How in the hell are you supposed to cap stats with that sword? I have a bunch of 70+ rogs and also 60+ but there's no way I can cap everything even with using MP pieces with that low utility sword..

Not saying it is perfect (few resists lower than cap, nowhere near capped DEX and missing 5 QUI), but it is very possible to do "good enough" with lower UV and 99% gear without seriously gimping yourselves.

LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 962.3
Useable Utility: 960.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Statistics
STR:75/75 CON:75/75 DEX:49/75
QUI:70/75 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:200/200

Resistances
Body: 27
Cold: 26+5
Heat: 25
Energy: 24
Matter: 24
Spirit: 25
Crush: 26+2
Slash: 26+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Envenom: 11
Stealth: 11
Critical Strike: 11
Left Axe: 11
Sword: 11

Bonuses

Chest (Ice-Shadow Jerkin):
Imbue: 35.0
21 Strength
27 Constitution
3 Envenom
3 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Arms:
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
4 Constitution
28 Quickness
2 Sword
11% Spirit
Utility: 53.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
7% Thrust
19 Strength
9% Slash
3 Stealth
Utility: 59.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
5% Heat
9% Energy
60 Hits
7% Crush
Utility: 57.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands:
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
22 Quickness
3 Critical Strike
60 Hits
7% Matter
Utility: 58.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet:
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
9% Matter
2 Envenom
4 Critical Strike
4 Left Axe
Utility: 68.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Dragon-shadow placeholder):
Imbue: 22.5
4 Sword
22 Strength
Utility: 34.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (offhand-SC):
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
3 Critical Strike
4 Left Axe
7% Matter
22 Dexterity
Utility: 63.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Neck (Beaded Resisting Stones):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Body
10% Cold
10% Crush
10% Thrust
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Otrygg's Darkened Cloak):
Imbue: 40.0
64 Hits
9% Cold
9% Heat
9% Spirit
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Jewel (Blue Dragon Crystal):
Imbue: 35.0
19 Dexterity
21 Constitution
19 Quickness
4 Stealth
Utility: 59.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Edgebender Supreme Belt):
Imbue: 30.0
1 Constitution
1% Body
1% Crush
6% Energy
6% Heat
9% Slash
2 Envenom
Utility: 56.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Thrustbender Supreme Ring):
Imbue: 32.0
7 Dexterity
10 Constitution
6% Body
6% Cold
9% Thrust
Utility: 53.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Mighty Outstanding Ring):
Imbue: 21.5
13 Strength
11 Constitution
5% Body
1% Matter
1% Spirit
2 Stealth
1 ALL melee weapon skills
1 ALL dual wielding skills
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Crushbender Supreme Bracer):
Imbue: 28.0
1 Dexterity
1 Constitution
16 Hits
8% Crush
5% Energy
1% Heat
4% Spirit
1 Critical Strike
2 Envenom
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Edgebender Supreme Bracer):
Imbue: 32.5
1 Quickness
5% Body
1% Cold
4% Energy
4% Heat
8% Slash
2 Envenom
2 Stealth
2 ALL dual wielding skills
Utility: 74.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Tue 12 Mar 2019 8:56 AM by Xunn

did anyone test the dot proc for crafted weapon, if it stacks with poison and if it's worth?

Tue 12 Mar 2019 3:46 PM by Citian

You can stack any DoT so long as they are different damage types: e.g. energy weapon DoT, matter crafted DoT proc, body lifebane poison

Wed 13 Mar 2019 10:19 AM by Naturedruid

jelzinga_EU wrote: ↑
Mon 11 Mar 2019 9:23 AM
Naturedruid wrote: ↑
Sun 10 Mar 2019 6:38 PM
How in the hell are you supposed to cap stats with that sword? I have a bunch of 70+ rogs and also 60+ but there's no way I can cap everything even with using MP pieces with that low utility sword..

Not saying it is perfect (few resists lower than cap, nowhere near capped DEX and missing 5 QUI), but it is very possible to do "good enough" with lower UV and 99% gear without seriously gimping yourselves.

LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 962.3
Useable Utility: 960.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

I've managed to make a template, capping all stats, hitpoints, all resists, stealth, left axe, sword and critical strike with 3 MP armor pieces, rest 99% with the 4.2 TG sword. Took a long time of figuring out, though, and lots of 70-80 util RoGs and items. Using the SB cloak off of glacier giant, dragonscale bracelet, SI neck quest, TG vest and generally high quality RoGs. Don't really want to play with a gimped template, wanna do it with a good template right out of the gates.