Question about Salvaging weapons and values

I'm level 28 on my Shadow Blade and leveling Tailoring @ 500 (raising metal working to make some money) now and I'm stone cold poor. I salvage 1 hander or 2 hander and I get 2 bars, same value. Is that right?
On live and Uthgard you would get 10-12 for 2 handers and maybe 15 for Chain vests, while getting 7-8 for a 1 handed weapon.

Why are the values so low? Does it improve as I get higher level or what?
Very disappointed. And very poor. Struggling is putting it mildly.

You Like people having a hard time? or what is the goal to low values? Fun is 2/10

Sun 20 Jan 2019 3:04 PM by Mura

Sounds like your MW is a tad low to get full value, but metal rogs should salvage to 3 bars, I believe cloth should get 12 squares, wood should get 9 boards, and leather is 9 squares.

This is intended due to the increased drop chance of rogs. At teir 10 materials, you should trinket to roughly 15g each drop.

Normal drops and df items salvage for full value.

Sun 20 Jan 2019 6:45 PM by clairegodspeed

@ 500 in tailoring so up too Mithil bars in metal working. Seems really undervalued.

At this point why even level metal working since it's the same value as selling weapons to merchants.

Who ever came up with this system, needs to rework it.

Sun 20 Jan 2019 7:51 PM by Viswire

I think this that making all metal items only drop 2 bars when salvaged needs to be looked into. We should be able to get as much for the salvage as the item sells for to the merchant at least. But in this case at lower levels if you salvage anything you are getting half of what you would get from the vendor for the item. I have done crafting on live and on Uthgard and an item should salvage for close to what it would take to make the item. It was one of the reasons people would level up crafting. This really needs to be adjusted to allow lower players to be able to salvage and trinket to at least break even.

Sun 20 Jan 2019 8:02 PM by Afuldan

Salvaging has been adjusted for RoG drop rates. There is a thread where it has been discussed already. DF items and non RoG items have normal salvaging rates.

Sun 20 Jan 2019 10:08 PM by Viswire

Yes But ROG items should at least break even for salvage but they salvage for half of what you get from the vendor for them. I mean an item that sells for 26s salvages and trinkets out to only 11s that is a big waist of funds for someone salvaging lower level stuff. Yes I agree that it might get better the higher the level is but to start off it is a waist to try to salvage anything.

Sun 20 Jan 2019 10:37 PM by Afuldan

Have you accounted for the fact that here 5 RoGs might drop that each give 3 bars, in the same amount of time that one RoG dropped on other servers that gives 15? I believe the hour/salvage rate is what got normalized, at highest level of salvage skills.

Farm DF seals for old salvage tables, i think you can start emerald gear at ~600.

Tue 22 Jan 2019 7:51 PM by Onos

Afuldan wrote: ↑
Sun 20 Jan 2019 10:37 PM
Have you accounted for the fact that here 5 RoGs might drop that each give 3 bars, in the same amount of time that one RoG dropped on other servers that gives 15? I believe the hour/salvage rate is what got normalized, at highest level of salvage skills.

Farm DF seals for old salvage tables, i think you can start emerald gear at ~600.

From what I understand salvaging 1 RoG and trinketing it does not equal the price of just selling the item which means why salvage just sell all the RoG?

Tue 22 Jan 2019 9:56 PM by Mura

You can sell a rog for 5g or trinket to make 15. There is a post floating around with lots of math in it, but that's the gist of it.

Tue 22 Jan 2019 10:42 PM by Afuldan

Onos wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Jan 2019 7:51 PM
Afuldan wrote: ↑
Sun 20 Jan 2019 10:37 PM
Have you accounted for the fact that here 5 RoGs might drop that each give 3 bars, in the same amount of time that one RoG dropped on other servers that gives 15? I believe the hour/salvage rate is what got normalized, at highest level of salvage skills.

Farm DF seals for old salvage tables, i think you can start emerald gear at ~600.

From what I understand salvaging 1 RoG and trinketing it does not equal the price of just selling the item which means why salvage just sell all the RoG?

Are you salvaging lv 51 drops? The math has been shown that it should be about 15g in trinkets from a 5g rog. If this is not working, please submit a bug report. There is a thread on salvage rates here, please look at that thread for the math.

Edit:words are hard.

E2: https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3045

Wed 23 Jan 2019 3:15 PM by kedelin

I have noticed about half the time I am only getting 2 Arcanum not 3 bars from salvaging rogs.... my metal wo4king is 1045

Thu 24 Jan 2019 8:36 AM by Halma

kedelin wrote: ↑
Wed 23 Jan 2019 3:15 PM
I have noticed about half the time I am only getting 2 Arcanum not 3 bars from salvaging rogs.... my metal wo4king is 1045

Saw in a different thread a post from schaf that 1100+ is needed for the hightest ROG drops.
https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?p=24935#p24935