With Paladin spec points and Damage Table changes...

Started 31 Dec 2018
by Afuldan
in Albion
Anyone test a 39 slash 39 2hd 42 shield 49 chant spec before beta ended?

Slam, minimal variance even at low RR, full line of chants, and decent 2hd?

Phoenix charplanner makes me want to try Paladin, I just don’t know if my wrist can handle the twist.
Fri 4 Jan 2019 10:17 AM by Enrighteous
There are multiple variations to the class concerning the spec. From my testing I favored a higher 2H and lower slash. Also 48 chants is all you really need so can save a few points there. This is just my opinion and your playstyle will certainly dictate which spec you decide to go with.
Sat 5 Jan 2019 3:24 PM by Salty
Is thrust viable in this set up in lieu of slash or crush?
Sun 6 Jan 2019 6:26 PM by Pedro
Due to the effects of the trust styles (bleed, snare, etc), they are useful. And the thrust being dex based it will help if you plan to be a blocker.

If you plan to go 2h, it's str based.
Sun 6 Jan 2019 6:29 PM by Wraughtnam
Enrighteous wrote:
Fri 4 Jan 2019 10:17 AM
There are multiple variations to the class concerning the spec. From my testing I favored a higher 2H and lower slash. Also 48 chants is all you really need so can save a few points there. This is just my opinion and your playstyle will certainly dictate which spec you decide to go with.

I'm new to this game, would a 2h paladin be good for pvp/pve? I won't be able to play a lot but I like the Paladin witht he Plate and kinda knight style.
Sun 6 Jan 2019 10:18 PM by Enrighteous
Yeah keep chants at your level always. Spec can vary but if you are main tank keep shield higher and spec into weapon as a tertiary choice.

If not planning on being main tank spec into 2hand. The damage is actually pretty nice as they have been increased to a higher damage table on this server. Good luck!
Tue 8 Jan 2019 7:07 PM by Neehi
Thoughts on 48 Chants, 42 Shield, 39 2h/Slash, 20 Parry for a solo dps rvr spec? Should shield be dropped and raise Parry and just stay with the 2h instead of swapping?
Tue 8 Jan 2019 7:31 PM by Gohanssj
I wouldn't drop slam, depends if you're talking PvE or RvR

PvE I wouldn't even bother with 2handed really, just got full tank, 48 chants 50 slash 50 shield 17 parry ( or 39 slash 35 parry if you really wanna be the tankiest tank)

for RvR I'd be tempted to drop chants to 46 and forgo the final AF chant, that way you get 42 shield 44 2h and 39 thrust (thrust loses you a few points from auto train but is the best overall dmg for resists) slash gets you the auto train points but imho it's the worst dmg type.

tbh tho with the new dmg and spec points there are so many ways you could go, i.e 48 chants, 50 2h, 39 thurst and 32 parry dropping shield completely and going pure DPS relying on side and back stuns. I personally wouldn't do this as slam is invaluable, but you could do it.
Tue 8 Jan 2019 7:38 PM by Afuldan
Full out 2hd is also a spec... 50 2hd 50 thrust 48 chant 10 parry, but I would probably also drop to 46 chants to boost parry up to 17. Not a solo spec, and you just assist MA, but has the highest potential 2hd damage and minimal variance. This also allows you to hit the most often (62 comp weapon at rr1) but I don’t feel that this is the best option. Too little survivability.
Tue 8 Jan 2019 7:48 PM by Gohanssj
you don't need 50 thrust, just composite 52 so 39+13 at rr3 etc. as you're not using any thrust styles, works the same as armsman pole; the spec I put before is all out 2hander
Wed 9 Jan 2019 10:33 PM by Tacos
Enrighteous wrote:
Fri 4 Jan 2019 10:17 AM
There are multiple variations to the class concerning the spec. From my testing I favored a higher 2H and lower slash. Also 48 chants is all you really need so can save a few points there. This is just my opinion and your playstyle will certainly dictate which spec you decide to go with.

I believe you mean my testing that I showed you 😎 👍 🌮
Fri 11 Jan 2019 6:40 AM by Crusad
Hey guys

I am considering rolling a paladin for start. I‘d like to go for 2h damage to roll in AT and do some dmg in smallgrps.

With the new spec points and the upped dmg table it does look quite promising on paper at least. You can stun from side and back and with parry on level you get some okay defense.

Spec: (with increased RR, drop weapon and up parry and chants)
502H
46 chants
39 slash/thrust/crush
37 parry

What are your thoughts? Is this viable?
Fri 11 Jan 2019 9:10 AM by Pao
Slam is your bread and butter
Fri 11 Jan 2019 2:51 PM by nixxo87
IMO if you're focused on 2h and grouping do something like this.

39 weap (drop as rr get higher to hit composite)
44 2h
48 chants(last af chant)
42 shield(slam lul)
5 parry

if you dont want or feel the need to get last af chant you can drop chants to 42red endo-43red self af, you can boost parry to 21.
if your going to just run a paladin for dmg, roll an arms lol

edit: another option if you want 50 2handed and slam go,
39 weap
50 2h
42 chants
42 shield
2 parry
Fri 11 Jan 2019 11:14 PM by daocgod
I think 42 shield/39 slash/44 twohand/48 chants is the best way to go

The cold/heat resist chants are the only slightly redeeming factor for the class
Sat 12 Jan 2019 10:22 AM by Pwnmonster
Does the Paladin in Phoenix have the castable heal? And does he still have to twist chants like the old days?
Mon 14 Jan 2019 4:20 PM by Seigmoraig
Pwnmonster wrote:
Sat 12 Jan 2019 10:22 AM
Does the Paladin in Phoenix have the castable heal? And does he still have to twist chants like the old days?

No castable heal and full twisting
Thu 17 Jan 2019 8:32 PM by aCrepe
I am just going to include the question here since it concerns paladins. What is the current state of the character population? It sounds like with the changes to paladin they are being rolled a lot more than in live. Are there too many? I only ask because I would rather not level up a character only to find that you are a dime a dozen.

Thanks
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