Scout stealth issue - Phoenix Freeshard

Hey

When I draw my bow in stealth sometimes I pop from stealth. Anyone know if there is a fix/workaround/solution to this?

I have tried 36+15 stealth - But that does not help.

/Scout

Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:20 AM by Sepplord

normal shots shouldn't knock you from stealth if your stealthspec is at 50.

critshots have a 20% chance to destealth you if your stealthspec is at 50

Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:07 AM by Glimmer

Spec 40 stealth and it should not pop you anymore.

Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM by Turano

Glimmer wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:07 AM
Spec 40 stealth and it should not pop you anymore.

Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:17 AM by kiectred

Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM
Glimmer wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:07 AM
Spec 40 stealth and it should not pop you anymore.
Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

20% chance at a minimum for crit shot, no matter what. +2% every point below 50 composite.

Personally, 20% seems veeeerry slightly too high (15%?) but it shouldn't be 0 imo... risk/reward for such a big damage shot

Thu 18 Jul 2019 12:00 PM by Sepplord

Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM
Glimmer wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:07 AM
Spec 40 stealth and it should not pop you anymore.
Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

in another thread you just said you aren't sure how it works, and here you simply claim stuff that is outright wrong...

speccing stealth higher than 50 doesn't benefit you in any way

Thu 18 Jul 2019 12:34 PM by Dominus

STEALTH AND FIRING:

From Version 1.35 Release Notes

November 8, 2001

“Archer classes now have a chance of becoming visible when they nock their arrow.

The way it worked up until now is that archers would always be invisible if they were using stealth until they fired their bow. Now, a skill check is performed when they "nock" their arrow. If they fail the check, they become visible. The chance to become visible is based on their specialization in Stealth.

On normal (i.e. NOT critical shots), if they are 50% specc'ed in stealth, they will have a 50% chance of becoming visible; if they are 100% specc'ed, they will have a 100% chance of remaining hidden.

On Critical Shots, the chance is the same as a normal shot, minus 20% - so an archer max specced in stealth will have an 80% of remaining hidden after nocking his bow. Please note that in all cases, an archer will become visible once the shot is actually fired.”

Thu 18 Jul 2019 12:46 PM by Turano

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 12:00 PM
Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM
Glimmer wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:07 AM
Spec 40 stealth and it should not pop you anymore.
Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

in another thread you just said you aren't sure how it works, and here you simply claim stuff that is outright wrong...

speccing stealth higher than 50 doesn't benefit you in any way

Ashok wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:46 AM
With 50 composite stealth you have 0% to be unstealthed on draw when using a normal shot or rapid fire.
However, crit shot always has a minimal chance to unstealth on draw of 20%. For every composite point below 50 the chance to unstealth does increase by 2%.

Oh I misread the quote of Ashok, thought he wrote -2% with every point over 50. My bad

Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:08 PM by warblade

Gah 60 stealth.... Just to see crit shot beeing evaded

Thanks for the info!

/Scout

Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:10 PM by Roto23

Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM
Glimmer wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:07 AM
Spec 40 stealth and it should not pop you anymore.
Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

As a non stealth class, I kinda like that this pops them outta stealth on occasion.

Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:48 PM by Hejjin

Roto23 wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:10 PM
Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM
Glimmer wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:07 AM
Spec 40 stealth and it should not pop you anymore.
Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

As a non stealth class, I kinda like that this pops them outta stealth on occasion.

Yes, my personal record is having stealth drop 3 times in a row when I was readying my initial shot against the same animist in Breifine when the RNG Gods were not happy with me, and then on the 3rd attempt the animist actually saw me. Annoying to say the least, but that is only time I have had multiple failures against the same target so...

Fri 19 Jul 2019 7:08 AM by Sepplord

Hejjin wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:48 PM
Roto23 wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:10 PM
Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM
Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

As a non stealth class, I kinda like that this pops them outta stealth on occasion.
Yes, my personal record is having stealth drop 3 times in a row when I was readying my initial shot against the same animist in Breifine when the RNG Gods were not happy with me, and then on the 3rd attempt the animist actually saw me. Annoying to say the least, but that is only time I have had multiple failures against the same target so...

why would you open up on a caster with critshot? Oo
break bubble, THEN critshot

Better engagement and you don't have to deal with being destealthed again, win/win

Fri 19 Jul 2019 8:26 AM by Hejjin

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 19 Jul 2019 7:08 AM
Hejjin wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:48 PM
Roto23 wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:10 PM
As a non stealth class, I kinda like that this pops them outta stealth on occasion.
Yes, my personal record is having stealth drop 3 times in a row when I was readying my initial shot against the same animist in Breifine when the RNG Gods were not happy with me, and then on the 3rd attempt the animist actually saw me. Annoying to say the least, but that is only time I have had multiple failures against the same target so...

why would you open up on a caster with critshot? Oo
break bubble, THEN critshot

Better engagement and you don't have to deal with being destealthed again, win/win

Because I had found and killed that particular animist (and others) multiple times without a bubble up...

Edit :
This was in OF in Breifine at the spectral manslayers where the animists used to go to do there farming, I was pleasantly surprised just how few of them bothered to put the bubble up.

Fri 19 Jul 2019 9:21 AM by Sepplord

Hejjin wrote: ↑
Fri 19 Jul 2019 8:26 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 19 Jul 2019 7:08 AM
Hejjin wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:48 PM
Yes, my personal record is having stealth drop 3 times in a row when I was readying my initial shot against the same animist in Breifine when the RNG Gods were not happy with me, and then on the 3rd attempt the animist actually saw me. Annoying to say the least, but that is only time I have had multiple failures against the same target so...

why would you open up on a caster with critshot? Oo
break bubble, THEN critshot

Better engagement and you don't have to deal with being destealthed again, win/win
Because I had found and killed that particular animist (and others) multiple times without a bubble up...

Edit :
This was in OF in Breifine at the spectral manslayers where the animists used to go to do there farming, I was pleasantly surprised just how few of them bothered to put the bubble up.

okay, good point

Sun 21 Jul 2019 3:01 PM by Cadebrennus

Roto23 wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:10 PM
Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM
Glimmer wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:07 AM
Spec 40 stealth and it should not pop you anymore.
Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

As a non stealth class, I kinda like that this pops them outta stealth on occasion.

Then Assassins should have a chance to be unstealthed a few seconds before they attempt a PA

Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:05 PM by Sepplord

Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Sun 21 Jul 2019 3:01 PM
Roto23 wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:10 PM
Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 10:00 AM
Right now you need 60 composite stealth to never get kicked out of stealth when drawing a critshot.
That is rather ridicolous if you ask me.

It should be 0% on 50 composite. And I am not even playing archers.

As a non stealth class, I kinda like that this pops them outta stealth on occasion.

Then Assassins should have a chance to be unstealthed a few seconds before they attempt a PA

No idea why assassins suddenly become part of the equation...but at least make it right if you want to compare critshot to PA and make critshots only work from stealth/have a positional requirement...oh, and ofcourse melee range not 2000-2200units (before elevation)

I fail to see how that would help archers, since bread and butter caster killing requires you to critshot after popping BT, but somehow you seem to willing to take that hit, as longa s assassins get destealthchance before PA

Wed 24 Jul 2019 1:15 AM by Cadebrennus

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:05 PM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Sun 21 Jul 2019 3:01 PM
Roto23 wrote: ↑
Thu 18 Jul 2019 5:10 PM
As a non stealth class, I kinda like that this pops them outta stealth on occasion.

Then Assassins should have a chance to be unstealthed a few seconds before they attempt a PA

No idea why assassins suddenly become part of the equation...but at least make it right if you want to compare critshot to PA and make critshots only work from stealth/have a positional requirement...oh, and ofcourse melee range not 2000-2200units (before elevation)

I fail to see how that would help archers, since bread and butter caster killing requires you to critshot after popping BT, but somehow you seem to willing to take that hit, as longa s assassins get destealthchance before PA

I was just being facetious to the prior moronic comment.

Thu 1 Aug 2019 8:35 PM by Milksteak

Go 40 stealth and uncovers become rare. It feels like 15% chance to uncover. Alot less than going 35 stealth.

Thu 1 Aug 2019 11:58 PM by Highfather17

Yes the issue with Scouts is they suck.

Fri 2 Aug 2019 7:31 AM by inoeth

Highfather17 wrote: ↑
Thu 1 Aug 2019 11:58 PM
Yes the issue with Scouts is they suck.

its imo the players that do....
there are some rare players that actually are pretty strong on scout, ask Skairipa how to scout

Tue 6 Aug 2019 7:14 AM by Sepplord

Milksteak wrote: ↑
Thu 1 Aug 2019 8:35 PM
Go 40 stealth and uncovers become rare. It feels like 15% chance to uncover. Alot less than going 35 stealth.

Composite stealth of 50 is cap, going higher does not decrease your chances to get uncovered

Tue 6 Aug 2019 12:28 PM by bm01

inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 2 Aug 2019 7:31 AM
there are some rare players that actually are pretty strong on scout, ask Skairipa how to scout

Does it involve sitting to get killed faster?

Tue 6 Aug 2019 3:39 PM by inoeth

bm01 wrote: ↑
Tue 6 Aug 2019 12:28 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 2 Aug 2019 7:31 AM
there are some rare players that actually are pretty strong on scout, ask Skairipa how to scout
Does it involve sitting to get killed faster?

is this a serious question?

Tue 6 Aug 2019 3:48 PM by Sepplord

inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 6 Aug 2019 3:39 PM
bm01 wrote: ↑
Tue 6 Aug 2019 12:28 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 2 Aug 2019 7:31 AM
there are some rare players that actually are pretty strong on scout, ask Skairipa how to scout
Does it involve sitting to get killed faster?

is this a serious question?

is THAT a serious question?

Tue 6 Aug 2019 4:04 PM by inoeth

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 6 Aug 2019 3:48 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 6 Aug 2019 3:39 PM
bm01 wrote: ↑
Tue 6 Aug 2019 12:28 PM
Does it involve sitting to get killed faster?

is this a serious question?
is THAT a serious question?

thats inception