Questions about the Paladin

Started 12 Jul 2018
by Koa
in Albion
Hy Guys,
i have some questions about the Paladin Character :
1 : Do you mean, its easy to find a group in PvE and also PvP ?
2 : Wich Race ? Highlander or sarazene ?
3 : Wich Skill?

It will be great to find some answers
Thanks in Advaned
BR
Thu 12 Jul 2018 5:28 PM by Magesty
1) It will be extremely easy to find a group in PvE. Paladins are PvE gods and that really won't change. RvR is a different story as it is dependent on how powerful they make buff potions/tireless. The Paladin is a woefully weak class in RvR and are only grouped in 8v8 due to their end regen chant. If alternative end regen sources are powerful enough groups will drop the Paladin class as quickly as they possibly can as it really is only a walking end regen buff with slam, and almost any other class would perform better in that slot.

2) Go whichever race you prefer-- you have to look at the char every time you play. If you want to min/max I think Saracen takes the cake if you are planning on using a shield as their dexterity is very high. Your damage as a Paladin will be laughable regardless of which race you choose due to their weaponskill table so the strength gained from rolling a highlander has no real value. If you are planning to go 2H highlander is the obviously the better choice, but I would advise not doing that.

3) As for spec: make sure you get at least 42 shield and 42 chants. Rest into wep/parry/more chants.
Fri 13 Jul 2018 1:44 AM by MacPrior
That's true, Paladin is one of the most wanted classes in PvE and quite absolutely useless in RvR.
Each task within a group could be performed much better through other class.

As a peel-tank you will have penetrate the defence of tanks with much higher weapon and defence abilities. Here will be a merc or an arms a way better.
But it will be the best RvR role of paladin. Just run with casters and supporters, block for them, slam and kill pets, slam and snare tanks.

As damage dealer with weapon factor of 19, low damage attribute and low weapon skill/weapon ability you will be mostly like running damage add and endupot, compared to the possibility of other true damage dealer classes - tanks or casters. In this role a paladin in 2 H skill could do a good job with higher RR.

Otherwise each group in DF, Doden, Marfach or even Ravenclans or Lynn Barfog needs a Paladin. Each Dragon-, Legion-, Caer Sidi-Raid needs a Paladin.
Fri 13 Jul 2018 8:17 AM by Majeric
I would say with the determination RA on this server the Paladin is absolutely viable. While paladin is on factor 19 table and arms on factor 22 which is 15% difference plus the higher weapon skill and primary attribute of the arms, the paladin also brings a dmg chant which stacks with other damg buffs. In the end the difference will not be as big as someone imagines. When i calculate damage for both you will have a difference of 15 - 20% in the end. The paladin also has a solid RA.

I calculated the paladin with a mixed spec of:
Chants 46 - last damg add
Slash 32
2H 39 - behind target snare
Shield 35 - side stun
Parry 10
Fri 13 Jul 2018 10:32 AM by Tydowen
Hy Guys,
i have some questions about the Paladin Character :
1 : Do you mean, its easy to find a group in PvE and also PvP ?
2 : Wich Race ? Highlander or sarazene ?
3 : Wich Skill?

It will be great to find some answers
Thanks in Advaned
BR

1) PvE is easy to find, every group would like to have 1. You will have difficulty find group in PvP once it starts running regularly and people try optimize their setup. (at current situation)
2) * I would go saracen +15 dext, 10 qui. To optimize your blocking capacity and guard. Crush for exp and respec 44 Thrust in rvr in order to have the best snare 1h. (some would choose +15 qui to slam and snare as quick as possible).
This is how I see the paladin..
* If you choose to go for kind of hybrid spe with expecting doing dmg etc.. go for Highlander +10 str, dext, qui.
3) * For pve at lvl 50 I would go for something basic like 48 chant/50 shield/ 29 slash (for ripost style, on blocking which give you def bonus + none amethyst) rest parade. You can stay crush if you can't manage well twisting + your endurance.
You can even go lower in weapon spe to up parry or eitheir way up your weapon spe and go down on parry.. up to you
* For rvr : something like 44 thurst (27 sec snare) + 42 shield + 46 chants + rest parry. If you plan to just leave reg end while fighting you can think go for 42 chants.

P.S : A last thing I would like try as well, the 39 style 2h from back which land a snare. In this case I would probably go for highlander. Then, make a spe test like 42 shield 39 2h 46 chants rest slash. The problem of this in RvR situation, 39 2h snare cost high end + while you land it you get off your shield = your guard is not effective.
This need to be use with care, and stay on side 1h slash snare in some situations. Also you will not be able twisting as much as 1h thrust spe because you gonna need lot of endurance for your 39 2h.


Majeric wrote:
Fri 13 Jul 2018 8:17 AM
I would say with the determination RA on this server the Paladin is absolutely viable. While paladin is on factor 19 table and arms on factor 22 which is 15% difference plus the higher weapon skill and primary attribute of the arms, the paladin also brings a dmg chant which stacks with other damg buffs. In the end the difference will not be as big as someone imagines. When i calculate damage for both you will have a difference of 15 - 20% in the end. The paladin also has a solid RA.

I calculated the paladin with a mixed spec of:
Chants 46 - last damg add
Slash 32
2H 39 - behind target snare
Shield 35 - side stun
Parry 10

* Pala with hybrid 2h spe is an idea but yet, not approved on previous "classics freeshards" yet. I would modify your spe by 42 shield and lower 1h even if you gonna get some variances, having the 42 slam is imo, unavoidable.
* Det 5 compare to Det 5 + stoicism : From alpha testing single red mez was 27 sec on my reaver det 5 compare to 12 sec on my merc.
* MA have anytime snare + chain lvl 50.

I love paladin but just to say if you can run rvr with like lw 1 + tireless 2 + blue regen endurance pots 10 min in bottle... the paladin doesn't have slot in 8vs8 "challenging setup", whatever spe or how you look at it.
I am not saying paladin is useless or you can't win with paladin. Just experience from previous "classics freeshards".
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