polearm damage - Phoenix Freeshard

So the pole styles are suppose to have pretty high GR yet the damage is very low. I notice on Genesis pole damage was always bugged(too low) and I notice the same thing here. Anyone else notice this?

Mon 20 Aug 2018 7:21 PM by Kha

Too low from what base ?
Do you have any kind of data to compare from ? Old videos or something ?
Did you test on live ? To compare ?

What did you test it with ? On what kind of targets ?
Do you have even the start of a test, or were you just, curious ?

Mon 20 Aug 2018 9:02 PM by Chonga23

Well compared to Uthgard they hit like a wet noodle. Also I've seen hero/warrior damage and it's much higher. Polearm is buggy, on genesis they could never get the damage right. It's the 2h weapon having to spec two weapons that seems buggy.

Tue 21 Aug 2018 12:25 AM by Quik

Polearms have always had to spec 2 weapons. Polearm for higher potential and subweapon style for more consistent dmg.

Haven't tested to see what it is like though so no comment on that here.

Tue 21 Aug 2018 5:35 AM by Kha

Chonga23 wrote: ↑
Mon 20 Aug 2018 9:02 PM
Well compared to Uthgard they hit like a wet noodle. Also I've seen hero/warrior damage and it's much higher. Polearm is buggy, on genesis they could never get the damage right. It's the 2h weapon having to spec two weapons that seems buggy.

Then it's on, find a decent RR hero, temped, all caped,
find a decent RR armsman, temped, all caped,

Compare 100 NO style average damage on a yellow dummie
Compare XXX anytime style average damage on yellow dummie
You DON'T want to include procs ... So maybe a no proc replica of their weapon.
You DON'T want to include critical hits, a parser could help for that.
Need to take note of their Strengh / dext difference etc.

Then you can conclude if the GR is properly implented, and if polearm damage sucks or not.
Grouped with an armsman for some time at last event ... Anything not temped was 1-2 shot with polearm, seemed, decent at the least.

Tue 21 Aug 2018 12:51 PM by heardstheword

Chonga23 wrote: ↑
Mon 20 Aug 2018 9:02 PM
Also I've seen hero/warrior damage and it's much higher.

Warriors have the highest damage table in the game, so I'd expect them to potentially have higher damage

Kha wrote: ↑
Tue 21 Aug 2018 5:35 AM
....

Thanks for explaining how data collection works.

Tue 21 Aug 2018 4:33 PM by Chonga23

Yea what was I thinking, ofc a beta version of a game wouldn't have any problems and having played Armsman doesn't matter. Yea nothing to see here, all is fine, I'll just jump on the Hib bang wagon where BM's are hitting harder then zerkers. But hey nothing wrong here....

Tue 21 Aug 2018 5:29 PM by heardstheword

All you said was "damage is low"

That could be any number of things. Maybe you're only level 10. Maybe your weapon is grey con. Maybe you're not buffed. Maybe you don't have max stats. Maybe your polearm doesn't have any +'s from armor. Maybe the enemy you were fighting was too high of a level. Maybe the enemy's armor makes them resistant to your damage type.

It's literally impossible to nail down your issue. It could be any number of things. It could be fine, and you just want to kill faster. We can't know for sure without specifics.

But saying "damage is low, is this a bug" isn't helpful in determining if it is an issue or not.

Tue 21 Aug 2018 7:20 PM by Kha

heardstheword wrote: ↑
Tue 21 Aug 2018 12:51 PM
Thanks for explaining how data collection works.

Wasn't trolling at all ...

Was just stating : if you think it's low, prove it.