No immunity root on scout shield

Please add immunity. This is a broken style.

Thanks

Tue 14 Apr 2020 7:06 AM by Khogor

Pssssst!! Working as intended 😋

Wed 15 Apr 2020 3:41 PM by Forlornhope

After he breaks the root with his next shot just run the other way. Unless you're a caster he's not going to be able to finish you off from range. That really only works if he's solo though, but good luck actually finding a solo scout.

Mon 20 Apr 2020 10:34 AM by Khogor

Bow dam is too low anyway to be an actual thread.

Ore as NS.......figure it our yourself

!

Greetz Mordack the "trying to solo with no solo kills"-Scout

Mon 20 Apr 2020 12:01 PM by Sepplord

I am still wondering why this spammable immunity free CC isn't abused more in albion...

Mon 20 Apr 2020 12:06 PM by Razur Ur

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 20 Apr 2020 12:01 PM
I am still wondering why this spammable immunity free CC isn't abused more in albion...

yeah scout is the better peeler as a arms ^_^.

Tue 21 Apr 2020 1:38 PM by Failwalker

So this custom style is not even giving immunity? Sounds like ...

How about you give me Grasping roots style on VW?

Its even livelike... its been on live for some years. Frontal style with ae root that gives no immunity^^

i suck at kiting, too but i want to cast people in the knee

Fri 24 Apr 2020 10:28 AM by Khogor

Razur Ur wrote:
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 20 Apr 2020 12:01 PM
I am still wondering why this spammable immunity free CC isn't abused more in albion...

yeah scout is the better peeler as a arms ^_^.

Imagine a peeler with 1.5 sec rupt at range, snare style (lol) ...Slam (lol)...block (lol) can stay right in the backline

I wasn´t Invited because Scout is a solo char

! (lol²

Fri 24 Apr 2020 10:34 AM by Riac

now imagine that dudes hp when hes get stunned and nuked twice. imagine not having soldiers baricade or any of the other good RAs that a full tank brings.
i know its a give and take situation but you are giving a lot only to get a scout in return lol

Fri 24 Apr 2020 10:56 AM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 10:34 AM
now imagine that dudes hp when hes get stunned and nuked twice. imagine not having soldiers baricade or any of the other good RAs that a full tank brings.
i know its a give and take situation but you are giving a lot only to get a scout in return lol

he can skill AOM :-) and purge4 + Det and mob ^^. i think with rr8+ scout can a alb group get much fun. he can with kiting and have range rupt slam/root.
i think that can be funny for a test.

Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:10 AM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 10:56 AM
Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 10:34 AM
now imagine that dudes hp when hes get stunned and nuked twice. imagine not having soldiers baricade or any of the other good RAs that a full tank brings.
i know its a give and take situation but you are giving a lot only to get a scout in return lol

he can skill AOM :-) and purge4 + Det and mob ^^. i think with rr8+ scout can a alb group get much fun. he can with kiting and have range rupt slam/root.
i think that can be funny for a test.

rofl gonna need a r10 scout just to do that bullshit. coulda done all that with a r5 real tank.

Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:23 AM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:10 AM
rofl gonna need a r10 scout just to do that bullshit. coulda done all that with a r5 real tank.

sure is a tank normal better but fuck this shild root is so strong ;-) and believe me a rr8 scout reach ;-)

https://playphoenix.online/charplan/?class=Scout&level=50&realmRank=70&view=ras&r70=1&r206=1&r211=6&r214=5&r226=9&r242=3&r310=1

Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:25 AM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:23 AM
Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:10 AM
rofl gonna need a r10 scout just to do that bullshit. coulda done all that with a r5 real tank.

sure is a tank normal better but fuck this shild root is so strong ;-) and believe me a rr8 scout reach ;-)

https://playphoenix.online/charplan/?class=Scout&level=50&realmRank=70&view=ras&r70=1&r206=1&r211=6&r214=5&r226=9&r242=3&r310=1

bro, that dude is dead in one stun, god forbid the tank train get on his gimp ass lol. viper 5 takes them to half hp. if you wanna gimp your group by running a scout, thats all you.

Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:38 AM by Cadebrennus

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 20 Apr 2020 12:01 PM
I am still wondering why this spammable immunity free CC isn't abused more in albion...

It would be amazing in a Visi group, but 99.999999% of the player base can't see beyond the "meta".

Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:52 AM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 11:25 AM
bro, that dude is dead in one stun, god forbid the tank train get on his gimp ass lol. viper 5 takes them to half hp. if you wanna gimp your group by running a scout, thats all you.

Rly? let a alb caster group a group mate dying because of tanktrain then was the failure from the group and not from the class or not? alb caster group dont need
rly a arms only a slam and peelz bot and this can do a scout too. and what you saying is only theory with stun and assist train vs a alb caster group. most time
you must with tank group split up because of enemy caster!

Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:01 PM by Riac

do it big then, im sure you opponents will love it. hes gonna have like 2k hp lol

Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:10 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:01 PM
do it big then, im sure you opponents will love it. hes gonna have like 2k hp lol

Yeah i cant see the different between a caster and a scout both can catch and both can dying in a assist train! but this situation is rly rare for
a alb caster group that they dying on a tank train! and normal as reach if catch the scout one or two tank with shild root and the third off tank
dying because he pushing alone in the caster :-D. i said not this is a must have but i think this is for alb caster groups a funny new meta and
i dont think that the enemy tanks amused is over this fucking shild root.

Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:13 PM by Riac

youre right, mid tank groups never push in and roll alb caster groups. the scout getting 2 shot in a svg back stun will prolly never happen.
its actually kind of funny considering the last post from the centro guy about not being able to cast. that healer about to lock down that alb caster group lol

Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:44 PM by Razur Ur

Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:13 PM
youre right, mid tank groups never push in and roll alb caster groups. the scout getting 2 shot in a svg back stun will prolly never happen.
its actually kind of funny considering the last post from the centro guy about not being able to cast. that healer about to lock down that alb caster group lol

and the caster getting not 2 shot´s in a svg stun? what prefer a svg? a scout or a caster? and hey ok the scout dying and now? he get pr and it goes on,
btw the caster nuking after scout down the svg down because he let run away the caster and prefer this useless scout :-D.

Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:47 PM by Riac

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:44 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:13 PM
youre right, mid tank groups never push in and roll alb caster groups. the scout getting 2 shot in a svg back stun will prolly never happen.
its actually kind of funny considering the last post from the centro guy about not being able to cast. that healer about to lock down that alb caster group lol

and the caster getting not 2 shot´s in a svg stun? what prefer a svg? a scout or a caster? and hey ok the scout dying and now? he get pr and it goes on,
btw the caster nuking after scout down the svg down because he let run away the caster and prefer this useless scout :-D.

the caster would get 2 shot too, but the caster provides much more dmg and util than the scout would. im also making some assumptions in the scenerio. im assuming theyre gonna split the train up a bit into the caster group, so the svg should be ok for the most part if ppl are rupting (id call for preheals to be safe though). also, pr on a scout? feels bad man. by all means though. run that scout in the 8 man.

Fri 24 Apr 2020 1:52 PM by Khogor

Point is not the Scouts damage, he does none. It is the Snare Style..99% there is no det ore stoi working on this because it is no root but a 99% snare.
Now imagine your tank train gettin "rootet" in place for ? 10? dunno right now sec one after another. Again and Again why ? because the style doenst give an immunity timer.

The Scout is a paper compared to arms or pala.

This will only work on paper...but ...gimme a grp I´ll test it

Appart from that..how many tanker grps are out there EU Prime ? 1-2 ?

Fri 24 Apr 2020 1:57 PM by Riac

Khogor wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 1:52 PM
Point is not the Scouts damage, he does none. It is the Snare Style..99% there is no det ore stoi working on this because it is no root but a 99% snare.
Now imagine your tank train gettin "rootet" in place for ? 10? dunno right now sec one after another. Again and Again why ? because the style doenst give an immunity timer.

The Scout is a paper compared to arms or pala.

This will only work on paper...but ...gimme a grp I´ll test it

theres no det or stoi working on it because its melee, not because its a snare, much like slam. i dont think this scout is gonna get to come in and snare over and over. someone is gonna slam him or back stun him next time he gets close and get on that ass lol. he might get one or two off, but its not gonna end well for him.

Fri 24 Apr 2020 2:06 PM by Khogor

We will never get to know it

because no one will test it.

Regarding Det and Stio ...no matter WHY is doesnt work...melee ore snare ...it isnt afected.

But lets face it...the "root style" will be enough for someone posting NERF NERF !! because he gets mad of beeing rooted over and over, but it will never
safe a Scout in the first place

Asassin ..Viper 5 and you are on 50% HP when reaching distance to shoot, worse against ns you will get nuked.

Light tanks maybe ..if the dont remember their ranged weapon...but thos arent a Problem in the first place if you have the time

Fri 24 Apr 2020 2:18 PM by Riac

Khogor wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 2:06 PM
We will never get to know it because no one will test it.

Regarding Det and Stio ...no matter WHY is doesnt work...melee ore snare ...it isnt afected.

But lets face it...the "root style" will be enough for someone posting NERF NERF !! because he gets mad of beeing rooted over and over, but it will never
safe a Scout in the first place

Asassin ..Viper 5 and you are on 50% HP when reaching distance to shoot, worse against ns you will get nuked.

Light tanks maybe ..if the dont remember their ranged weapon...but thos arent a Problem in the first place if you have the time

you know what.... youve got a point, im back on boerd. ppl should start running this shit so we can start the nerf scout chants. ive alraedy got my pitchfork

Fri 24 Apr 2020 3:55 PM by Nunki

Khogor wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 2:06 PM
We will never get to know it because no one will test it.

Regarding Det and Stio ...no matter WHY is doesnt work...melee ore snare ...it isnt afected.

But lets face it...the "root style" will be enough for someone posting NERF NERF !! because he gets mad of beeing rooted over and over, but it will never
safe a Scout in the first place

Asassin ..Viper 5 and you are on 50% HP when reaching distance to shoot, worse against ns you will get nuked.

Light tanks maybe ..if the dont remember their ranged weapon...but thos arent a Problem in the first place if you have the time

Agreed.
If every strategy fails, just run in the opposite direction as soon as you get hit out of the root and you will most likely survive due to crap bow dmg.

Sat 25 Apr 2020 6:21 AM by Khogor

Got an SB 1v1 Yesterday
1. root Style the SB will start throwing daggers,anyone can tell me the throwing range?
So you will run desease snared , figuring out when you can shoot.
Meanwhile SB will start running again..critshot ? 3.x sek critshot evaded like every time.
SB Back in melee , Slam , SB will purge
2. root Style again Situation Like above .
At this Point SB hast Like 80%. TP me having Like 60 . Got 1normal Shot of .
Sadly the Fight was added,but SB Used heals +purge. I Used Heals Purge still have IP .

Point here is mit the op Style nur the underperformimg Scout with His Low damage bothe range and melee.

Lucky for me sb forgot dots ...you will ne at. 50% and lower after 1root

Sat 25 Apr 2020 6:30 AM by Cadebrennus

Razur Ur wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:44 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:13 PM
youre right, mid tank groups never push in and roll alb caster groups. the scout getting 2 shot in a svg back stun will prolly never happen.
its actually kind of funny considering the last post from the centro guy about not being able to cast. that healer about to lock down that alb caster group lol

and the caster getting not 2 shot´s in a svg stun? what prefer a svg? a scout or a caster? and hey ok the scout dying and now? he get pr and it goes on,
btw the caster nuking after scout down the svg down because he let run away the caster and prefer this useless scout :-D.

If that Scout is smart (he probably won't be) then he could cover his caster buddy and be a better blockbot than an Arms/Paladin.

Sat 25 Apr 2020 6:44 AM by Khogor

Question with Scout peeler will be, what will come first Style Nerf ore grps understanding the Situation and starting to snipe the Scout. 😂

The Alb grp will losse anyway when only rely on the peeler.

Gimme som buffs and better Dam, ID gladly Change it for that Style

Sat 25 Apr 2020 11:28 AM by Cadebrennus

Khogor wrote: ↑
Sat 25 Apr 2020 6:44 AM
Question with Scout peeler will be, what will come first Style Nerf ore grps understanding the Situation and starting to snipe the Scout. 😂

The Alb grp will losse anyway when only rely on the peeler.

Gimme som buffs and better Dam, ID gladly Change it for that Style

Saracen Scout is literally the best blocker in game, period. That being said an Archer in a Visi group is also an amazing interrupter, and we ran a Ranger in our Visi groups on Live, regularly. We won most of our engagements vs Caster groups, and were unstoppable until Mid and Alb groups began running one, or even two, Archers to counter us. But, that's a different topic.

Mon 27 Apr 2020 12:42 AM by Tyrlaan

Love the paper DAoC. Tanks are still better at it, with better RAs, armor and more hps to boot. All of them really.

Arrows are inferior to NS or amnesia or AE mezzes as long range interrupts, breaking all kinds of roots and snares where you would want to keep them to overextend the enemy. And they can be blocked which allows a guarded caster to cast freely. A very limited form of interrupt. More like a pet except that it occupies a slot and keeps it busy. Albs have plenty of rupts in a similar or better fashion on classes which can switch to DPS when needed and are not one-trick-ponies.

Nobody cares about stories from Live, with Sojourner, speed warps ect. Why don´t you play this 8v8 peel Scout on Phoenix if they are that great?