Calling all Sorcs, Minstrels and Mentalists - sourcing information about mob behavior and charm

Started 22 Feb 2019
by teiloh
in Albion
HI all,

As many of you know a lot of the mobs behave differently in Phoenix than they did in 1.65, because much of mob behavior/scripts was not recorded in the original source code used for custom servers.

I'll be taking data from live and trawling through sources to try to get these fixed. Many mobs have not been changed on live since OF times, but some have, e.g. Great Brown Drake and cyhraeth. Can anyone help? Here's what I have for cyhraeths, one of the harder ones to track (their stats have been repeatedly changed):

Cyhraeth:
Right now, the cyhraeth has a relatively low chance to proc a 80-110 point DD. Around 1.65, they were invisible shade women that often cast body DDs from range, and they did significant damage. About 150-280 base would be my guess.

Appearance:
https://bit.ly/2BPJPz5

DD/Damage Behavior:
http://archives.jeuxonline.info/fils/125097.html
Ma plus grosse frayeur ces a mont de pennine la premiere fois que j'ai croiser une cyhraeth elle ma one shot direct faus voir le bond que j'ai fais sur le coup j'etais lvl 30 a peu pres et je m'ettendais a tous sauf a croiser un mobs furtif et violet en plus :p
Essentially, "I was level 30 but got one shot by a Cyhraeth DD"

https://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?t=360553
Cyhraet [DD instant +-150]

http://camelot.allakhazam.com/db/search.html?cmob=343
Yes, they no longer look like undead roman warriors, they are extremely hard to spot if you're not looking for them now. They are on the high hill closest to Caer Sursbrooke, southeast of caer.. They con yellow to red by a level 50, and they proc a pretty bad DD, (230 damage or so).

https://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?t=835105
La Cyhrath : fait un DD allant parfois au delà des 200 points de dégats.

https://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?t=224103
elle sont pas costeau mais quand elle enchainent leurs DD, tu fait pas long feu - refers to chaining DD, or instant behavior

https://www.ign.com/boards/threads/pet-classes.250232144/
Cyhraeth for example can be charmed by sorcs and have a nasty 1500 range insta heat DD

http://charm.enygma.net/frontierguide.html
50-52 Cyhreath PM/SN Proc DD (~150-300 depending on target), invisible

My question: does anyone have logs, screenshots or videos of cyhraeths from around 1.65 when they were still invisible instant range DD users?
Sat 20 Apr 2019 4:10 PM by teiloh
Bump. Pet review is coming this week. If you're interested in the health of the server and game balance, please chime in.

Why do charmed mobs feel weak and what is different from live?

1. Base mobs have all been nerfed in stats in the interest of making PvE easier. Charm was possibly overlooked:
Testing: https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?p=55425#p55425
Patchnotes: https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2334&p=13105&hilit=block+cap#p13105

2. Pet buff scaling was nerfed. Enormously, for outgoing damage as well as absorb:
Testing: https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?p=55905#p55905

3. Minstrels (and possibly Ments) are not receiving the standard bonus applied (on top of improved stats) that attackers receive for being higher level than their target
Testing: https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6668&hilit=charm

4. Almost all commonly used charmed pets are *not* using their special features or abilities. Devs need data from Live and archives to help patch these holes.
Dev comment: https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?p=53379#p53379

5. Spec AF is not functioning properly on pets:
https://tracker.playphoenix.online/issues/4a5b4886-d635-461f-8ec2-ed7dd70f0b15


This is on top of several significant Alb/charm/pet nerfs:
https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=7718&p=55062&hilit=mob+behavior#p55062

1. DoTs no longer interrupt each tick. Hurts Sorcs, Cabs, Minstrels, Necros and Mentalist - this was a feature on live that was removed as a bug:
https://darkageofcamelot.com/content/1122b-pendragon-test-server-patch-notes
"Level 41 – Underhill Zealot – 6s cast – 40% power
This is a pet that specializes in magical utility.
Casts a damage over time spell that interrupts every tick, in addition to debuffing the target’s base dexterity."

2. Minstrel charm was nerfed in the number of times it can be cast. Reasonable where scripts that mash a button 1000 time are legal.

3. Minstrel charm was hard-capped. This did not exist on live at this patch level.

These differences taken together and unaddressed, means charm and most Alb pets are gutted on this server (BD Dark pets, SM pet intercept, Animist shrooms are all stronger than 1.65 - Enchanter pets are generally untouched). Alb is the underpop/underdog realm and fixing pets will help balance the game.
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