Best Cabalist PVP Spec

Started 13 Apr 2019
by sloth
in Albion
Hi All,
What is the best cabalist PVP spec?

I'm thinking if AOE disease interrupts CC, then you don't want to cast it really. Single target disease only takes 3 points in body to get it. Will that be able to hit in PVP?

If so, I'm thinking I could try this build that looks to maximize nearsight and debuff levels:
33 spirit - 30 % body debuff
41 matter - red nearsight
11 body - single target disease

How does the spec level interact with chance to hit a target though? Will this be too low in a line? The base body nuke is the highest damage for cabbie, so how would this impact my DPS?
Sat 13 Apr 2019 4:18 PM by sloth
Also found this post suggesting: http://www.postcount.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-136281.html

46 spirit, 25 body, 13 matter for 50% body debuff but also enough body to max dmg variance
Sat 13 Apr 2019 6:08 PM by Turtle006
sloth wrote:
Sat 13 Apr 2019 4:18 PM
Also found this post suggesting: http://www.postcount.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-136281.html

46 spirit, 25 body, 13 matter for 50% body debuff but also enough body to max dmg variance

That is my spec. I am low RR, but with a Sorc buddy the debuff just melts people. I think when (if) i get to a higher RR I will respec to the tri spec for the utility. Spirit spec is straightforward nuker, so easier to play IMO.
Mon 15 Apr 2019 10:23 AM by Cami
Turtle006 wrote:
Sat 13 Apr 2019 6:08 PM
I will respec to the tri spec for the utility. Spirit spec is straightforward nuker, so easier to play IMO.

Tri-spec (25mat 34bod 33spi) has the same amount of actively usable spells than spirit-spec (11mat 25bod 46spi), you have Nearsight, Disease, Debuff, etc. in both specs and you should use all spells with both. I would not say, that the utility is higher with tri-spec.

sloth wrote:
Sat 13 Apr 2019 3:54 PM
What is the best cabalist PVP spec?

The spec depends more on your group role. If you are the assist leader in a body-debuff setup group, you should go spirit. If your group has another assist leader (merc or caba) then you should go tri-spec as your are primarily in the control role in this case. My rule of thumb: You should have one spirit-caba with 3 or more body casters in your group. Go tri-spec with less than 3 or as the second caba.

Those are the two dominant and best specs for a cabalist imo. There is no THE best spec which is rare for a DAoC class. :-)
Mon 15 Apr 2019 11:50 AM by relvinian
46 matter 28 body. Maelstrom 5.

Screw these elitist 8 men specs. Elite 8 man groups don't exist on alb and 75% of the time if you make the perfect group and spend an hour buffing you die anyways to an actual skilled group of hibs or mids.

Zerg. Keep take. Make those rps, young buck.
Mon 15 Apr 2019 12:38 PM by Cami
relvinian wrote:
Mon 15 Apr 2019 11:50 AM
Elite 8 man groups don't exist on alb and 75% of the time if you make the perfect group and spend an hour buffing you die anyways to an actual skilled group of hibs or mids.
I have to admit, that you are correct.
Tue 30 Apr 2019 4:09 AM by sloth
relvinian wrote:
Mon 15 Apr 2019 11:50 AM
46 matter 28 body. Maelstrom 5.

Screw these elitist 8 men specs. Elite 8 man groups don't exist on alb and 75% of the time if you make the perfect group and spend an hour buffing you die anyways to an actual skilled group of hibs or mids.

Zerg. Keep take. Make those rps, young buck.

I may try this. I went with Spirit spec and have gotten to RR4. I see why tri-spec would be better now especially with mastery of focus. Keep take is an awful lot of fun, but may need to PM you for advice on using Maelstrom!!
Thu 7 May 2020 11:10 PM by gotwqqd
How about 45-47body rest matter?
Fri 8 May 2020 6:35 AM by Muse
I personally enjoy this spec
36 matter, 33 spirit, rest body
you get yellow aoe dot (zerging), yellow ns + debuff (Smallman, maybe 8man), less variance in nuking with 23? body.

This spec allows you to zerg and to roam without respeccing as soon as you hit 24h played.

Maybe try it
Fri 8 May 2020 8:37 AM by Nunki
gotwqqd wrote:
Thu 7 May 2020 11:10 PM
How about 45-47body rest matter?
The core question would be, "What for?".

Keep/Zerg fights? You want purple ae-dot.

In general, you would most likely do more damage with yellow/purple body debuff, especially as long as you have a sorc in group that assists from time to time.

45-47 body might be fun as solo caba with moc5 and purge 2-3 ready.
In that case I would personally go for 45 body, 22 spirit (blue body debuff for +15% dmg), 19 matter (ns).

If you don't want to 8vs8 and prefer zerg/keep-fights to farm RP's, go for 46 (or 49) matter, 3 spirit, rest body and Maelstrom as relvinian said.
Fri 8 May 2020 1:22 PM by gotwqqd
Nunki wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 8:37 AM
gotwqqd wrote:
Thu 7 May 2020 11:10 PM
How about 45-47body rest matter?
The core question would be, "What for?".

Keep/Zerg fights? You want purple ae-dot.

In general, you would most likely do more damage with yellow/purple body debuff, especially as long as you have a sorc in group that assists from time to time.

45-47 body might be fun as solo caba with moc5 and purge 2-3 ready.
In that case I would personally go for 45 body, 22 spirit (blue body debuff for +15% dmg), 19 matter (ns).

If you don't want to 8vs8 and prefer zerg/keep-fights to farm RP's, go for 46 (or 49) matter, 3 spirit, rest body and Maelstrom as relvinian said.

Mostly solo
Gonna try
47 body for the debuff(transfer health to help on pve raids)
24 spirit for body/spirit debuff
11m for ns/interrupt
Tue 12 May 2020 8:30 PM by gotwqqd
Nunki wrote:
Fri 8 May 2020 8:37 AM
gotwqqd wrote:
Thu 7 May 2020 11:10 PM
How about 45-47body rest matter?
The core question would be, "What for?".

Keep/Zerg fights? You want purple ae-dot.

In general, you would most likely do more damage with yellow/purple body debuff, especially as long as you have a sorc in group that assists from time to time.

45-47 body might be fun as solo caba with moc5 and purge 2-3 ready.
In that case I would personally go for 45 body, 22 spirit (blue body debuff for +15% dmg), 19 matter (ns).

If you don't want to 8vs8 and prefer zerg/keep-fights to farm RP's, go for 46 (or 49) matter, 3 spirit, rest body and Maelstrom as relvinian said.

I tried it it’s garbage
As the spec lt is same damage but higher return it is not as good as purple debuff with base lt
Sun 31 May 2020 1:58 PM by egh9cu
It would be nice to have a reason to spec a body cab. Increased delve on the spec body LT might do it.
Sun 31 May 2020 3:49 PM by gotwqqd
egh9cu wrote:
Sun 31 May 2020 1:58 PM
It would be nice to have a reason to spec a body cab. Increased delve on the spec body LT might do it.

Your return health is higher percentage
Not sure if the heal from full body using 90% is as good as the debuff lt with vase @60%
Thu 4 Jun 2020 2:49 PM by egh9cu
gotwqqd wrote:
Sun 31 May 2020 3:49 PM
egh9cu wrote:
Sun 31 May 2020 1:58 PM
It would be nice to have a reason to spec a body cab. Increased delve on the spec body LT might do it.

Your return health is higher percentage
Not sure if the heal from full body using 90% is as good as the debuff lt with vase @60%

But is it enough to make you want to spec for that last LT?
Wed 23 Sep 2020 8:59 AM by gotwqqd
egh9cu wrote:
Thu 4 Jun 2020 2:49 PM
gotwqqd wrote:
Sun 31 May 2020 3:49 PM
egh9cu wrote:
Sun 31 May 2020 1:58 PM
It would be nice to have a reason to spec a body cab. Increased delve on the spec body LT might do it.

Your return health is higher percentage
Not sure if the heal from full body using 90% is as good as the debuff lt with vase @60%

But is it enough to make you want to spec for that last LT?
What I like about the spirit spec is that it’s really good for solo play as well as the debuff train.
Don’t discount the pet. It can eat up if not cc
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