You just keep making mistakes the other freeshards did, explains your population decline.

Started 13 Feb 2020
by cma1978
in Suggestions
The change to new frontier, rvr is far too spread out with so few players, if nf really was a vote, then i have to say the majority are very nice people (Edited by Uthred) if they would pick nf over of, it's not even a contest of which are better, it speaks for itself.

Removing feather trash drops so solo and small groups can no longer farm feathers for templates, they're forced to group or buy them from farmers in trade, not sure what you were thinking with this.

Sure they were forced to group anyway for credit, but still i would prefer if they removed the damn feathers alltogether, daoc for nearly two decades has always been about equal buffs and equal gearing, that is a core feature that made daoc what it was.

Don't even get me started on xp items or the lack of buff token merchants that last 30 min for small groups/stealthers/soloers, again the game just keep showing how group biased it is. Ohh i forgot we have crappy alch buffs, i better mention those before someone else does.

As others has stated here, you're a far cry away from being live servers now, in that case i choose live servers.

It has buff tokens, toa can be overwhelming but it's the best area to farm money in by far, i used to be one of the first minstrels to farm battler scrolls solo before they were dirt cheap, 10p each.

Phoenix was great when it came out, it's sad to see these mistakes happen all over again, like deja vu.
Thu 13 Feb 2020 1:31 AM by Isavyr
All classic servers have a great starter population, even the entirely unworthy Uthgard, who did nothing right. So your premise is unsubstantiated.

Furthermore, you're disagreeing with a popular vote. What do you expect from this thread, after calling everyone that voted for NF "bloody idiots"?
Thu 13 Feb 2020 2:21 AM by Riac
im almost convinced that the ppl that come in here and advocate for OF didnt actually play OF when it was on here. OF was garbage. the keeps sucked, the mgs sucked, camping pks sucked, it was one giant zerg in the rotating task zone and dead everywhere else, hibs didnt exist in emain, it took forever to get anywhere. of was shit.
Thu 13 Feb 2020 5:50 AM by Frigzy
Riac wrote:
Thu 13 Feb 2020 2:21 AM
of was shit.

Staff made it shit from the start.
Thu 13 Feb 2020 6:13 AM by Riac
Frigzy wrote:
Thu 13 Feb 2020 5:50 AM
Riac wrote:
Thu 13 Feb 2020 2:21 AM
of was shit.

Staff made it shit from the start.
disagree
Thu 13 Feb 2020 6:32 AM by Enyore
If you go live, can i have your stuff?

Stop with the OF shit please - its clear you were NOT playing here during the "launcher scandal" that completely fucked over OF ..... I am loyal player here and I am not planning to leave the server any time soon, but if they bring back the OF as it is now with the insane amount of LOS/texture bugs it would make me reconsider my position. Also imagine if they did so, all the same people crying on the forums for OF to come back would start complaining: Fix the bugs or we play live.

Buff complaints - seriously? it is the same for everyone solo or small-man without a main healer. The system works very well and balanced.

Group biased? Yes, its a Dark Age of Camelot game dude... its supposed to promote group play.

Not even sure what the hell your point is about ToA, but back when battler scrolls sold for that much it was pre-buff token time anyway, so not sure what that is even supposed to be.
Disappointed it didn't live up to your nostalgia ideas? too bad mate.
Thu 13 Feb 2020 1:32 PM by cma1978
Enyore wrote:
Thu 13 Feb 2020 6:32 AM
If you go live, can i have your stuff?

Stop with the OF shit please - its clear you were NOT playing here during the "launcher scandal" that completely fucked over OF ..... I am loyal player here and I am not planning to leave the server any time soon, but if they bring back the OF as it is now with the insane amount of LOS/texture bugs it would make me reconsider my position. Also imagine if they did so, all the same people crying on the forums for OF to come back would start complaining: Fix the bugs or we play live.

Buff complaints - seriously? it is the same for everyone solo or small-man without a main healer. The system works very well and balanced.

Group biased? Yes, its a Dark Age of Camelot game dude... its supposed to promote group play.

Not even sure what the hell your point is about ToA, but back when battler scrolls sold for that much it was pre-buff token time anyway, so not sure what that is even supposed to be.
Disappointed it didn't live up to your nostalgia ideas? too bad mate.


It's supposed to promote to play what you want, that's what daoc is. But i get it, it's better you carried groups get a full advantage, otherwise we stealthers will continously remind you of your place when we knock you off your little pedestral.
Thu 13 Feb 2020 4:19 PM by Enyore
cma1978 wrote:
Thu 13 Feb 2020 1:32 PM
It's supposed to promote to play what you want, that's what daoc is. But i get it, it's better you carried groups get a full advantage, otherwise we stealthers will continously remind you of your place when we knock you off your little pedestral.

Actually - most of the stealthers still do despite all you are QQing about........ so still not sure what you point is.

It has happened more than once that a stealther beat the living shit out of my casters while we were fighting, hell even by BM gets whopped by some of the sneaks in here.... with the switch command assassins can reapply their shit as fast as you can purge it and if you dump RA's on them they just vanish and reset.... Hunters can kite you forever if they know what they are doing... Scout is pretty much shit though but that's the only one.
But I am not complaining about these facts, its part of the game - i might have my own reservations about people who play in such a way, but I completely respect that it is so without bitching about it.

However I still find your points on this topic not to be valid, in fact its bullshit if you ask me. It sounds like live servers are more your thing....
Pointing this out i guess getting your stuff is off the table, or?
Thu 13 Feb 2020 4:32 PM by raghh
cma1978 wrote:
Thu 13 Feb 2020 1:32 PM
It's supposed to promote to play what you want, that's what daoc is. But i get it, it's better you carried groups get a full advantage, otherwise we stealthers will continously remind you of your place when we knock you off your little pedestral.

dude did you just +1 your own post?
Thu 13 Feb 2020 5:16 PM by Enyore
raghh wrote:
Thu 13 Feb 2020 4:32 PM
cma1978 wrote:
Thu 13 Feb 2020 1:32 PM
It's supposed to promote to play what you want, that's what daoc is. But i get it, it's better you carried groups get a full advantage, otherwise we stealthers will continously remind you of your place when we knock you off your little pedestral.

dude did you just +1 your own post?

Hey man, its a tough life being solo.
Thu 13 Feb 2020 5:37 PM by Ashenspire
Breaking news: man upset a game that was built from the ground up to be group based is group based. Also, NF is too big compared to OF even though all the zones are exactly the same size. Top scientists are looking into how this is even possible.
Fri 14 Feb 2020 7:24 AM by Razur Ur
But he have right with this Feather! Was a nice idea but the cost is to expansive for feather items. i don't like this strong intervention in the ingame economy.
The most guys on this server playing only because of nice rvr action and not because of stupid raid farms for feather. I had more Chars equipt with lower
feather cost and better items with higher utility how on live server and please have items sold that can also be bought with Bountypoints, only respec
stone reach not.
Fri 14 Feb 2020 2:22 PM by watbrif
Also, what population decline? I really dislike threads like this, because population is a key point that makes people decide whether or not they come back ("is it worth it?", so going on about in the forums how there's nobody playing anymore is a major turnoff. And it's simply not true: I've been playing since last summer-ish and the EU evening/early morning population has been the same every since (basically). Of course people might have left since beta etc., but whoever thinks that a freeshard of a 20 year old game could keep more than 1000 people engaged on a regular basis is somewhat deluded.
Fri 14 Feb 2020 3:32 PM by Forlornhope
Population during NA time is a little stagnant, but it's still far better than any other server out there. And weekends are always crawling with good action.
Fri 14 Feb 2020 3:51 PM by inoeth
dont feed the troll!

ot: can i have your stuff?
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