Someone leaves PK = Make them worth RPs.

Blowing all of your RAs to kill someone who isn't even worth RPs is frustrating.

My suggestion, remove the "Died recently" timer, what/who does it serve? What's it's purpose?

Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:39 PM by rakid

Or you stop camping the tk, farming ppl with no buffs and charges up while being fully charged yourself.

Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:47 PM by Luluko

its good that way or else albs would all be rr10 already in emain when they camp mpk/mmg even if the realmtask is somewhere else... how are you even supposed to rvr if you cant even leave through the walls and in your realm there probably arent enough people which run arround there and if there are some usually only stealthers which just show up when you are below 60% or as an add.

Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:54 PM by phixion

rakid wrote: ↑
Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:39 PM
Or you stop camping the tk, farming ppl with no buffs and charges up while being fully charged yourself.

You've never played a stealther here, have you?

Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:05 AM by rakid

phixion wrote: ↑
Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:54 PM
rakid wrote: ↑
Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:39 PM
Or you stop camping the tk, farming ppl with no buffs and charges up while being fully charged yourself.

You've never played a stealther here, have you?

I don't see the correlation. Ppl leave the pk with timer on buff pots and charges, so you don't deserve rp farming those. Just camp further back and you get your reward.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:07 AM by Stranded

Bump for visibility

Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:12 AM by phixion

rakid wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:05 AM
phixion wrote: ↑
Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:54 PM
rakid wrote: ↑
Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:39 PM
Or you stop camping the tk, farming ppl with no buffs and charges up while being fully charged yourself.

You've never played a stealther here, have you?
I don't see the correlation. Ppl leave the pk with timer on buff pots and charges, so you don't deserve rp farming those. Just camp further back and you get your reward.

What is stopping visible groups doing so? I see it all the time...

And you've obviously not played a stealther here because you'd know there are very few places a stealther can hunt for fights, especially solo.

Playing a stealther here is a constant war of trying to avoid being zerged over, every time you jump 1 person you get a zerg bee-line straight at you from clipping range. Camping a Portal Keep is not easy RPs, you have almost a constant stream of people coming out, picking people off lagging behind is risky.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:24 AM by rakid

I see it more as a problem of overpopulated stealthers competing for the easy kills. Since fighting fully buffed enemies takes too long before getting added in crowded zones stealthers tend to get closer and closer to the tk to get the 2 shot kill on unbuffed solo chars.
Visible grps won't get rps for them either.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:29 AM by phixion

rakid wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:24 AM
I see it more as a problem of overpopulated stealthers competing for the easy kills. Since fighting fully buffed enemies takes too long before getting added in crowded zones stealthers tend to get closer and closer to the tk to get the 2 shot kill on unbuffed solo chars.
Visible grps won't get rps for them either.

I see it more of a problem of an overpopulated server or a map that's far too small. There are very few places you can find a 1v1 reliably, the server tasks cater towards zerging, not soloing.

You really shouldn't be running out in to RvR without full buffs, that's your problem if you do.

Stealthers have camped PKs since the start of DAoC, it's a risky place to camp, you can easily be swarmed, you have to time it right. Why shouldn't you be rewarded for achieving a kill, possibly blowing RAs?

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:09 AM by Ashman

stealthers are also irrelevant since the start of daoc

play something different or enjoy your vanish

but these "i play stealther give me more fun" threads need to stop

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:12 AM by phixion

Ashman wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:09 AM
stealthers are also irrelevant since the start of daoc

play something different or enjoy your vanish

but these "i play stealther give me more fun" threads need to stop

This is a suggestion about making people in an RvR zone worth realm points, your opinions on stealthers matters not.

Find another topic to troll.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:27 AM by Cirath

For being irrelevant since "the start of daoc" these "stealthers" sure do draw out the noob QQ posts and the ire of l337 d00dz 8-mans alike. (By stealthers do they mean assasins? archers? minstrels? who knows! the noobs certainly don't). Since the only real end game here appears to be the chase-the-rp-task circus, you could argue every class is irrelevant, really...

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:02 PM by dansari

I'm confused are they not worth rps because they died recently or because they're grey? I hope you're not burning RAs to kill greys.. and if the former, I don't feel sorry that you're camping directly outside of a pk.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:07 PM by Ceen

phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:29 AM
Why shouldn't you be rewarded for achieving a kill, possibly blowing RAs?

Since it's the case since

phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:29 AM
Stealthers have camped PKs since the start of DAoC

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:13 PM by phixion

dansari wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:02 PM
I'm confused are they not worth rps because they died recently or because they're grey? I hope you're not burning RAs to kill greys.. and if the former, I don't feel sorry that you're camping directly outside of a pk.

Yes, I made RR8 killing grays outside of APK.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:41 PM by Afuldan

It isn’t the games fault that you happen to be killing people that aren’t worth RP’s. I hear that by the time people get to the milegate that they are worth RP’s again.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:45 PM by phixion

Afuldan wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:41 PM
It isn’t the games fault that you happen to be killing people that aren’t worth RP’s. I hear that by the time people get to the milegate that they are worth RP’s again.

Cool, when is the best time to jump them? When they're in their 8 man or with the zerg surrounding them? Thank god for that 15 minute i-win button...

It's a setting in the game which can probably be changed. When you kill someone who isn't res sick, why should you not get RPs? "Died recently" has no place, they run out, they should be worth just as much as anyone else--they can do as much damage and gain RPs.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:57 PM by Afuldan

phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:45 PM
Afuldan wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:41 PM
It isn’t the games fault that you happen to be killing people that aren’t worth RP’s. I hear that by the time people get to the milegate that they are worth RP’s again.

Cool, when is the best time to jump them? When they're in their 8 man or with the zerg surrounding them? Thank god for that 15 minute i-win button...

It's a setting in the game which can probably be changed. When you kill someone who isn't res sick, why should you not get RPs? "Died recently" has no place, they run out, they should be worth just as much as anyone else--they can do as much damage and gain RPs.

It’s to prevent the only gameplay in RvR from becoming who can zerg the PK the longest. Because if this is changed, why bother doing ANYTHING else when you can zerg a PK or going full lemming/zerg out from PK and get as much RP as having a fight at a keep while taking it?

Sat 16 Mar 2019 3:15 PM by florin

phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:13 PM
dansari wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:02 PM
I'm confused are they not worth rps because they died recently or because they're grey? I hope you're not burning RAs to kill greys.. and if the former, I don't feel sorry that you're camping directly outside of a pk.

Yes, I made RR8 killing grays outside of APK.

No it was by one shotting unbuffed blues and greens and hiding from nightshades

Sat 16 Mar 2019 3:22 PM by phixion

florin wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 3:15 PM
phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:13 PM
dansari wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:02 PM
I'm confused are they not worth rps because they died recently or because they're grey? I hope you're not burning RAs to kill greys.. and if the former, I don't feel sorry that you're camping directly outside of a pk.

Yes, I made RR8 killing grays outside of APK.

No it was by one shotting unbuffed blues and greens and hiding from nightshades

Tuck that butthurt back in, it's hanging out.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 5:02 PM by Caemma

Avoid RP farming in a simple way.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 5:08 PM by phixion

People really dislike stealthers, eh?

Sat 16 Mar 2019 5:20 PM by Caemma

phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 5:08 PM
People really dislike stealthers, eh?

No at all, I especially like to kill them.. and maybe one day i'll be one of them if the visible action keep being so boring/frustrating.

The point is that with all those comodities that are already in place, removing the "rp worth timer" would technically open the gates of rp farming at a serious level.
For what "big improvement" exactly?
I understand your frustration, but It might happen couple time that you kill someone just after release, most of time you would probably find many other people without this timer active, otherwise every stealther would be still RR3..

Sat 16 Mar 2019 5:41 PM by Luluko

phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:12 AM
rakid wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 12:05 AM
phixion wrote: ↑
Fri 15 Mar 2019 11:54 PM
You've never played a stealther here, have you?
I don't see the correlation. Ppl leave the pk with timer on buff pots and charges, so you don't deserve rp farming those. Just camp further back and you get your reward.

What is stopping visible groups doing so? I see it all the time...

And you've obviously not played a stealther here because you'd know there are very few places a stealther can hunt for fights, especially solo.

Playing a stealther here is a constant war of trying to avoid being zerged over, every time you jump 1 person you get a zerg bee-line straight at you from clipping range. Camping a Portal Keep is not easy RPs, you have almost a constant stream of people coming out, picking people off lagging behind is risky.

less risky than running visible and visibles also dont have vanish and anytime snare if you die too often you are just too rp hungry

Sat 16 Mar 2019 5:42 PM by phixion

I guess I see it differently, if you are willing to run out in to frontiers, you must be prepared to die.

If you are fairly killed in frontiers, then you should be worth RPs. Just as if you fairly kill the enemy, you will get RPs.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 5:57 PM by florin

phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 3:22 PM
florin wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 3:15 PM
phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 16 Mar 2019 2:13 PM
Yes, I made RR8 killing grays outside of APK.

No it was by one shotting unbuffed blues and greens and hiding from nightshades

Tuck that butthurt back in, it's hanging out.

No butthurt here buddy, think I’ve seen you in game 2 times. Just laughing at your perceived and inflated self worth when you are farming suicidal task lemmings. Must be satisfying.

Sat 16 Mar 2019 6:00 PM by

Uthred

Locked.

No plans on changing and/or removing the timer.