RvR balance... possible solution

Started 21 May 2019
by Aminita
in Suggestions
I play 99% HIb. .. After playing Alb for 2 weeks I noticed a few things.. First of all.. at LEAST 75% of ALL of the spam stems from Emain .. Probably more.. I bet you have also noticed this.. Also there's a dearth of Hibs fighting here... ( Between AMG and HMG ) Mainly just Mids and Albs.. NOW I know WHY !! ... As an Alb, if I want to RvR , either to do the Task or run a group.. All I have to do is to Port to Hibernia.. I am IN RvR within 2 minutes. !!!!! From the position of the Mid HPK the same is true of MIdgard..

As a Hib... I have a 7 minute run to reach that major High Intensity RvR area.. Every time.. If I die 10 times, thats 70 minutes of Just running.. As a Hib , I lose 70 minutes of viable RvR . ... Compared to the 2x10 = 20 minutes of the other realms.

As a potential viable solution : REINSTALL the ability to port to an OWNED Keep ..
This will place More value on owning keeps... And add the incentive to take keeps of which there is NONE right now.
It will allow Parity for RvR access in the "Hot Zone " ...

A perfect idea.. No.. but it has possibilities..
Aminita Muscaria
Tue 21 May 2019 7:18 PM by Horus
Even thought it hurts me personally I am thinking they need to bring back the old realm task system. Sure it was quite zergy thus inspiring a change but the population has calmed down a bit. Might be time to bring that system back instead of getting the task bonus everywhere. That would motivate RvR to other places other than just emain.
Tue 21 May 2019 7:22 PM by Patchnotes
Im not sure the solution but as of right now Hibs are at a disadvantage.

1. we have a long run to get to the action
2. we almost never have a bonus because Crauchon is always filled with zergs because that is where all the people are fighting

This leaves hibs with much less chance for RPs than Albs or Mids.

I suggest you create a system where the zone with the most invaders gets reduces RPs and the zone with the least invaders get bonus RPs. We really need to make the groups spread out away from Emain all the time so that Hibs have a chance to get the keep bonus for longer than 30m a day.
Tue 21 May 2019 11:28 PM by djegu
Theses are real issue i experimented on hib.
I noticed, and maybe it's just coincidence, two factor on top of that:
- PK, they camped mpk in hadrians wall for age, forcing mid to go to emain.
- Pilzpower BG, he simply emptied hib in rvr zone (odins/HW/emain).
Wed 22 May 2019 12:56 AM by Numatic
I think they should just revert to the old task system. It will be less zergy with the lower pop (but it will still happen) and I am so tired of fighting in emain. I dont even know why people prefer going there. It's awful. It's one giant choke point. If not at the MG then at the two funnel valleys to briefine or the xroads by DC (especially if hib owns it). I much prefer HW or Odins.
Wed 22 May 2019 6:34 AM by Sepplord
On top of other benefits named, emain also has the benefit of not having to roam VS many hibs:
roaming VS hibs just isn't fun and doesn't feel fair, since you can't avoid engagement against them in the same ways you can vs mids/albs.
Add tanglers into the mix and people just prefer fighting the other enemy realm (just reporting the mood i picked up when hibs DO show up with a group in emain from time time, i haven't smallmanned/grouped myself since 2weeks ago). You can really see the difference between people getting farmed by albgrps/albzerg or a hibgrp. Against albs there isn't much complaining at all, besides the OMG SO MANY (which applies to all realms in different situations) while getting caught by amnesia or fighting against tanglers gets mentioned a lot .



Despite me being skeptical regarding porting, giving Hibs easier emain access doesn't sound too unreasonable though...and since i assume all realms would get the same it would allow me to get to odins faster which is also a nice zone and spreading the zerg out is always beneficial to me as i only solo/smallman
Wed 22 May 2019 1:30 PM by Ardri
Horus wrote:
Tue 21 May 2019 7:18 PM
Even thought it hurts me personally I am thinking they need to bring back the old realm task system. Sure it was quite zergy thus inspiring a change but the population has calmed down a bit. Might be time to bring that system back instead of getting the task bonus everywhere. That would motivate RvR to other places other than just emain.

Agreed. After recent DDoS, NA population is below 1k now. Go to mid/alb land when the task is there and there's nothing to fight. Need to break up the monotony of Emain zergs and stop making hibs run 24/7.
Wed 22 May 2019 1:33 PM by dearen75
As a Hib I'm agree that there's a problem with frontier population.. Emain is always full of ppl .. Odin and HW are almost empty .. and it's getting worse .. I don't know what's THE solution but some change is needed .. maybe the old task system .. or fast access to Emain for Hib .. but if you don't fix it, Hib will slowly be emptied
Fri 24 May 2019 9:20 AM by dearen75
At least start removing the 2500 items turn in limit to activate flags teleports .. is useless
Sun 26 May 2019 9:40 PM by Sharky04
There is basically no RVR for hibs besides the Pilzpower BG, which arguably could be called PVE.

If keep teleporting is not enabled soon it will become an Alb vs Mid RVR game.
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